This page has been archived and commenting is disabled.
U.S. Government Claims – Just Like the Nazis – that the Truth Is Too Complicated and Dangerous to Disclose to the Public


2nd and 3rd Image by William Banzai 7
In the classic history of Nazi Germany, They Thought They Were Free, Milton Mayer writes:
"What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to being governed by surprise; to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if the people could not understand it, it could not be released because of national security. And their sense of identification with Hitler, their trust in him, made it easier to widen this gap and reassured those who would otherwise have worried about it.
"This separation of government from people, this widening of the gap, took place so gradually and so insensibly, each step disguised (perhaps not even intentionally) as a temporary emergency measure or associated with true patriotic allegiance or with real social purposes. And all the crises and reforms (real reforms, too) so occupied the people that they did not see the slow motion underneath, of the whole process of government growing remoter and remoter.
Similarly, America has - little by little - gone from a nation of laws to a nation of powerful men making laws in secret. Indeed, even Congress doesn't know half of what others are doing.
Secretive, unaccountable agencies are making life and death decisions which effect our most basic rights. They provide "secret evidence" to courts which cannot be checked ... and often withhold any such "evidence" even from the judges. For example:
"I find myself stuck in a paradoxical situation in which I cannot solve a problem because of contradictory constraints and rules — a veritable Catch-22," the judge wrote. "I can find no way around the thicket of laws and precedents that effectively allow the Executive Branch of our Government to proclaim as perfectly lawful certain actions that seem on their face incompatible with our Constitution and laws, while keeping the reasons for their conclusion a secret."
The government uses "secret evidence" to spy on Americans, prosecute leaking or terrorism charges (even against U.S. soldiers) and even assassinate people.
And the government goes after whistleblowers ... and reporters who say too much (and see this).
U.S. government spokesmen pretend - just as the Nazis - that:
- The situation is so complicated that the government has to act on information which the people could not understand
- It is so dangerous that, even if the people could not understand it, it could not be released because of national security
As FireDogLake notes:
Like the iron fist of the Nazis ... Americans must submit to “roving surveillance” and warrantless searches, without the requirement of a Judge’s authorization. Surveillance laws are part of a larger arsenal of weapons against political dissidents and whistle blowers.
Most Americans don’t know the Patriot Act authorizes secret charges relying on secret evidence and secret grand jury statements. Under the Patriot Act, Americans have no right to know who has accused them of what criminal activities, or the dates of the alleged offense.
They’re not even told what law was broken. The government has power to lock up Americans on military bases or other prisons without a hearing or trial. We can be detained indefinitely without any rights of due process at all.
All of this happened in Germany - as in America today - because the governments whipped up so much fear of attack by demonizing the enemy and declaring an open-ended war that people became complacent and stopped thinking for themselves.
As Mayer notes about Nazi Germany, people were too apathetic or scared to stand up for others:
Pastor Niemöller spoke for the thousands and thousands of men like me when he spoke (too modestly of himself) and said that, when the Nazis attacked the Communists, he was a little uneasy, but, after all, he was not a Communist, and so he did nothing; and then they attacked the Socialists, and he was a little uneasier, but, still, he was not a Socialist, and he did nothing; and then the schools, the press, the Jews, and so on, and he was always uneasier, but still he did nothing. And then they attacked the Church, and he was a Churchman, and he did something—but then it was too late."
The same is true in modern America.
Mayer points out:
"You see," my colleague went on, "one doesn’t see exactly where or how to move. Believe me, this is true. Each act, each occasion, is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one great shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join with you in resisting somehow. You don’t want to act, or even talk, alone; you don’t want to ‘go out of your way to make trouble.’ Why not?—Well, you are not in the habit of doing it. And it is not just fear, fear of standing alone, that restrains you; it is also genuine uncertainty.
***
"But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands will join with you, never comes. That’s the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions would have been sufficiently shocked—if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in ’43 had come immediately after the ‘German Firm’ stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in ’33. But of course this isn’t the way it happens. In between come all the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D.
The same is happening to Americans today. Indeed, the American government appears to be following the Nazi playbook. The U.S. government - like the SS - may label anyone who disagrees with government policy as crazy or a potential terrorist ... and is claiming more tyrannical powers that even Hitler claimed.
If you think we're exaggerating, just listen to what the prosecutors who convicted the Nazis of war crimes say ...
Benjamin Ferencz - a former chief prosecutor for the Nuremberg Trials against the Nazis - declared:
A prima facie case can be made that the United States is guilty of the supreme crime against humanity — that being an illegal war of aggression against a sovereign nation.
See this, this, and this. In addition, he said:
[A Nuremberg defendant said that he didn't feel bad for killing children and other innocent people] "because we relied on the head of state, Hitler. He had more information than I had, and he told us that the Soviets planned to attack, so it was necessary in presumed self-defense."
***
It's very disappointing to find that my government today is prepared to do something for which we hanged Germans as war criminals.
Another Nuremberg prosecutor, Henry King, Jr., said that the Guantanamo trials violate the Nuremberg principles and Geneva Convention.
Allowing medical experimentation on prisoners certainly violates the Nuremberg principles. And leading constitutional law expert Jonathan Turley notes that the government is violating the Nuremberg principles by failing to punish those who created our recent policy of torture.
Note 1: Fascism also happened in Nazi Germany because the taxpayers became responsible for the debts of big corporations, and the corporate sector and authoritarian government worked hand-in-glove. The same is happening in the U.S. right now.
Note 2: For Dems who assume that things improved after Bush, please note that a former Obama security adviser says that Obama is as "ruthless and indifferent to rule of law" as Bush. And see this.
- advertisements -


I have to say that the complicity of the MSM is what I find most troubling. Are there no real journalists left anymore doing any investigative reporting? It boggles the mind.
MSM have happily abandoned independence for a Press card that entitles them to a seat inside the government's corporatist tent. Add to that the journalistic training nowadays, and you end up with moronic smarmy bimbos and TV celeb wannabes who don't have a clue what real journalism is about, over and above reading out official press statements and regurgitating the latest official statistics. In the UK, the BBC is probably worst of the lot and is widely seen by dissenters as the Establishment Mouthpiece.
celeb wannabes < This. In a nutshell. Can you imagine the psychic lock the puppeteers would have if they had forseen the impact of the Web and managed to get out in front of it? Real journalism only exists today because of this one huge miss-step. On that note, thanks, GW... Great piece.
+1
The MSM is a business like any other, in an industry that has been greatly consolidated via "free market" deregulation and downsized via "efficiencies" that meant massive layoffs to eliminate "uneconomic redundancies."
We all know pleasing the boss is Job One, regardless of how much better our own ideas are.
With mass layoffs, it was the Company Man, the brown-nosing tool, who was kept and this is the culture in which all new people coming in have been forced to "compete." Not toeing the line means not keeping a job, much less advancing.
The corporate media has no interest in rabble-rousing "investigative reporting" that focuses upon exposing issues contrary to both its own interests and those of its corporate advertiser base.
They simply need to market a product that looks like news and draws an audience that supports the advertisers' goals and their own related revenue stream.
Only a fool would go to work for the corporate media as a journalist sincerely committed to uphold the traditional ethics of the profession (which still quaintly exist on paper.)
It can't happen.
nice cover for a mossad agent though
Fact is that the Ass-Press goes so far as to manufacture consent for Murder - like in Waco, and at the Freemen Standoff (e.g., quoting local residents, a NW think tank VP and a road crew worker: " a god damned cult" .. "bring in the helicopters, shoot 'em all (woman and children)" ... "I want to see blood."
After Waco, Ruby Ridge, etc., I do not understand why people do not see this rogue cabal will do it again and again. Like Germany under Hitler, we have started down this road. The murder, death squads and mayhem will only increase in intensity and quantity. After a while, you get to the Death Camp stage. Wake up, Americans!
Yep - socialist, communist, fascist, liberal - you name it - it's centralized thinking.
And the classic psychological feed is all about "toward pleasure and away from pain".
This method of communicating is best applied after extended periods of pain - the people will listen and believe anything remotely positive and lack the energy to challenge continued deception.
And now Barry and Ben are up to the same us Americans. Should be interesting to see what happens.
bbbbbuuttt,bbbbuuttt, this is America, we are good people, can't happen here......can it?
Tainter collapse, bitchez!
Not only is it coming - I think this is the motivation behind the acceleration in this lock-step charge into fascism. People will accept oppression out of fear, in exactly the same way, politicians will enable that charge when they are shown something they are truly scared of.
Bit of addition to the previous post:
'Americans' are alike. They might differ in social utility but their nature is the same.
There is no discontinuity between an 'american' elite and its base.
The ruling elite has to separate themselves from the People and keep secrecy because they have reached a point they can no longer bamboozle anyone. They have to drop their decisions on their recipients with no warning, and no feed back.
It is no different from the 'american' propagandist author who has to separate himself from his viewership and drop his propaganda effort with no warning and no feed back.
Both are in the same situation: if they submit themselves to be questioned, their whole streak of propaganga will be destroyed in a second.
Both have to ignore the people under them because they have reached a point their lies are so obvious they can no longer bamboozle anyone.
Both are 'american' They only differ in the way their social utility is for one to be employed at a high political position and for the other publishing on a propaganda blog.
But all react to the situation according to their 'american' nature.
There is no discontinuity between Chinese citizenism and its propagandation base.
The ruling elite has to separate themselves from the AnAnonymous lackeys and keep secrecy because they have reached a point they can no longer bamboozle anyone. They have to drop their decisions on their recipients with no warning, and no feed back.
Both Chinese citizenism elite and low-level AnAnonymous trolls are in the same situation: if they submit themselves to be questioned, their whole streak of propaganga will be destroyed in a second.
Both have to ignore the people under them because they have reached a point their lies are so obvious they can no longer bamboozle anyone.
Both are Chinese Communautist citizenistic. They only differ in the way their social utility is for one to be employed at a high political position and for the other publishing insane raving propagandations in this blog.
But all crap on the roadside according to their Chinese citizenism nature.
More fabled past by this 'american' author.
Application of laws in the mecca of 'americanism' on Earth has not changed since 1776,July,4th.
The US is as a nation of laws as it has always been.
No slow drift here.
The US is that country where a president sit down on a judicial decision reporting that Indians had a natural rights to their ancestors'land.
That situates the rule of laws in the US.
'Americans' do not try to copy nazis.
The Nazis did try to copy 'Americans'
Nazis were those guys who felt they were latecomers, change their habits and had to try harder in order to catch up on 'americans' who started earlier.
Final note: the day 'americans' can no longer sing their tune of fabled past, the day resources are so low they can no longer afford satisfying their taste for propaganda and fantasy.
'Americans''s admittance of their self will be a painful experience for anyone involved...
AnAnonymous said:
Made me laugh.
Not even a grammaricalized complete sentence. This Chinese citizenism citizen is indeed a failed academic when it tells absurd repeations about the fabled past requirement in rapid succession like a semi-laundromatic rifle.
Even as failings such outbursts are shameful and pathetic.
"Americans''s admittance of their self will be a painful experience for anyone involved..."
this statement implies the situation is self-correctable. There is very little evidence of that.
More likely, the vast majority of the population, equiped with limited intelligence and an external locus of control, will seek an entity to blame. Shall we take a look back for potential targets?
Gun worshipers, Muslims, Liberals, Jews, Mexicans, Catholics, Blacks, Jews, gypsies, sexual deviants, Irish, Italians, Jews, Asians, Jews, Christians, Muslims, infidels, heathens, the tribe over the mountains with inferior weapons, The tribe over the mountains that can't speak.
For anyone willing to understand history, National Socialism certainly drew inspiration from American Fascism and the American shadow government would have fully embraced the victorious Nazis had they succeeded in defeating the UK.
The American Constitution is a quaint relic of history. Defense of something that does not, in fact, exist is a puzzling concept.
this statement implies the situation is self-correctable. There is very little evidence of that.
___________________
No, it did not imply that.
The statement simply recalls that the 'american' activity of propaganda/fantasy relies on consumption of resources to be.
As resources dwindle, 'americans' will be less and less able to invest in all their masquerade in order to pretend to be what they are not.
Masks are going to fall due to the lack of resources to keep them up.
Going to be painful times when it happens.
.
Yes it did imply that, and now due to impossibility of self indiction in AnAnonymism you are backpedaling and offuscating.
Quite shameful, as if shame were possible for those who crap on the roadside in public like this AnAnonymous citizen:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2c9_1328304616
I see the dark demented one is still at his basement computer. You better climb those stairs and raid your mother's refrigerator, your blood sugar is low and your brain has been damaged.
The dark demented one? That is a new streak of fantasy.
Where's the previous story gone, you know, the one telling I work for some Chinese company, and stuff?
Here's a little factiod that has escaped you.
Last will and testaments are exploding in what's left of Amerika.
The Amerikan Dictater will declare war on it's citizens tomorrow.
The citizens are prepared for civil war.
You are powerless to stop it.
Carry on with your bullshit, and better hope you are not on this continent.
It's about to get real ugly..
Sure, sure, more fantasy.
You do not know what? Take some pop corn, sit down in a couch, and what your 'american' texan idol behaving the 'american' way, making money out of confessing he was a drugs addict.
That is what is going to happen.
That is what 'americans' do and what they are powerless to stop.
The rest is just a figment of their imagination.
Sure, sure, more Chinese shitizenism fantasy.
You do not know squat? Make me laugh! Take some wokked dog, sit down in a couch, and tell us some hilarious stories from your Little Red Book of Blobbing-up and Offuscationalization.
Roadside shit is what is going to happen. Chinese shitizen eternal nature and all.
That is what Chinese shitizens do and what they are powerless to stop.
The rest is just a pigment of their insanitation.
Sure, sure, more fantasy from the Confusious of Chinese citizenism.
You do not know whatwhomsoeverness? Take a poop (with corn), squatting down on the roadside, behaving the Chinese citizenism way of pooping in public like a monkey, then stagger toward the Peoples Libertion Opium Parlour as a drugs addict.
That is what is going to happened just like everyday.
That is what failed academics like AnAnonymous do and what they are powerless to stop.
The rest is just a product of their envy and resentmentation.
A new tune now, failed academics...
Propaganda, fantasy have this, they wear down and need to be replaced.
Still more fantasy from 'americans'...
AnAnonymous said:
AnAnonymous talking mouth provings here bestness of Chinese citizenism propagandation and fantasy as they enduring without wear down diligently.
AnAnonymous monolizing the speeching means is the unwearable mettle, the carborundum of Chinese citizenism.
American fantasy...
Where I dream dog woks you.
http://communities.sportsnet.ca/servlet/JiveServlet/showImage/2-1816999-...
Fear mongering?
Take a look around you. Militarized police, NDAA, drones, data capture, civilian disarmament proposals etc...
If you ain't nervous a bit then you must be dreaming.
Puppet and master makes no difference. All one and the same. One can't exist without the other.
Govt. has become the public face of the financial giants control of US policy both domestic and abroad and the cops on the beat have taken permanent residence at the donut shop.
Then again, a lot of people thought the weathermen were fearmongering when they said a cat 5 hurricane was going to hit New Orleans too.
Usually, I worry about people who use that term, because they think that the direction we are moving in is fine and others voicing their concerns are unfounded alarmists.
Any suggestions on how to pry the cops out of the donut shop when they're getting paid to sit there would be most illuminating, because I'm at a loss to see how to get it done with a crooked gunrunner in the Atty. Generals chair.
It was Bush's fault...Now it's Hope and Change Obama's fault.
A lot of us are not surprised that he's shoveling more shit into the stables rather than cleaning them out.
"Workin' hard, Boss...Gettin' my mind right."
Shhhhh you'll wake the sheeple from their comfy slumber of 'all is well!'
Takin it off boss ? ... Not today Luke.
It's everywhere. UK, Europe, Australia. Screws are tightening all over the planet.
New for China in the last year:
Mot other countries in Asia are still pretty open.
And the Real Man is nowhere to be seen! http://shutupnsing.wordpress.com/2013/01/15/the-whereabouts-of-the-real-man/
Don't flatter Obama comparing him to Xerxes. As you know the "300" was based on a comic book, based on "public" (lack of) education. I wish we had a gov't as modest as Achaemenid Persia, no slavery (that is right, no slavery, unlike the Greek and Roman models), honest money, a flat 10% tax (tithe, where the word comes from), religious and local political freedom. As compared to a Spartan military oligarchy, based on slavery…
Xerxes was a fool, spoiled and arrogant who snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, but to compare him to Obama… Who is cruel, petty, corrupt and a traitor is beyond compare… Xerxes didn’t murder innocent women and children for example...
This is Obama with his minions and puppet masters:
Eventually it reaches a point of essential alienation, where it can no longer pretend to represent the governed. The American government is now the most powerful human organization that has ever existed. It has made a stupid habit of exercising power arbitrarily, uninhibited by moral or constitutional principle. It is not a conspiracy masterminded by some cunning genius at the center; it is a system of power which large numbers of greedy and ambitious people have learned to use. It has ceased to be a problem for Americans only; it has become a problem for a large part of the human race. Joseph Sobran
The Greek city states were attacked for the burning of Sardis during Darius’ time and he was avenging his father, per his request. After the Greek city states surrendered (130 years or so later) to Persia at end of the Peloponnesians wars they were left alone until Phillip of Macedon's conquest.
Please check your history books, this is all documented. The Anglo-American (NWO) Empire loves to demonize Persia to enslave it for its resources as we are enslaved. Yes Persia / Iran has a stupid current gov't as we do too...
Clicked on your link and one thing is for sure, Ayn Rand would not have given a stiff shit for Aaron.
On the other hand, she might have admired King Samir, because she had a bit of a soft spot for psychopaths.
Bush and Cheney? Obalmer's going on his 5th year, get with the program, why not go back to ronnie and bubba as well.
where i live, it has become custom to use the word jew as an adjective. that is not very jew of you to do that.
yes, they say it is too complicated for the people because there are many things they cannot explain without being discovered as corrupt and greedy mobsters. if they would telle the truth, the people would find out that they are only in it for themselves. it has become complicated because of the lies, meant to hide the corruption.
As promised to "racer", here is a link to the "Milgram Experiment", though it does not do as much justice to it as when I first came across it whilst studying psychology during the 1970s, without the dubious 'benefits' of videos and the internet.
Anyhow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8olVHKgIBXc
Please people.
Only those with PhD's should attempt to understand this article and all other data regarding freedom and economics.
What's a PhD?
Either you are being stupidly sarcastic, or supremely arrogant. Which is it?
I vote the former. He's being sarcastic without the /sarc tag.
There is 1 major difference between fascism in 1933 Germany and today's America
The German Nazis where after the Jews
The American Nazis are the Jews
Ever hear of Hjalmar Schacht? Hitler had his jewish helpers too.
Stop being distracted by the idiots on the stage. Thats where Nuremberg went wrong. Hung plenty of trigger pullers and order givers, but just didn't seem too interested in finding the check signers who had made the whole thing possible.
Who is REALLY behind the curtain writing the scripts and pulling the strings?
This is correct. Those identified as Jews have always been involved to millenia ago. However, keep in mind that Jew is meant to indicate a follower of Judaism, not necessarily a race. The puppet masters do not practice the laws of Moses, but will openly claim they are Jewish, Protestant or Catholic. These people are disciples of ancient cults including Babylonian and Egyptian. Their lord is Lucifer, the bright morning star (Venus) and is why the pentagram is found throughout architecture and time (venus alignments with earth and sun).
Did anyone happen to see Anderson Cooper holding up for the public camera, a water-color painting of an owl? This painting was supposedly created by a Newtown child. An owl... not a cat, dog, frog or monkey... but an owl. This is the calling card of the Illuminati and Moloch is the owl. Child sacrifices to Molech were prevalent millenia ago. Now you know why the official story doesn't quite add up. The psychopaths achieved two goals at once. They are coming for your weapons, and they will have the brainwashed public begging for them to take away its last defense.
They still sacrifice to Molech.....and supposedly part of their "code" is to warn you, hence the owl...
But don't you think that Blankfein, Bernanke, Obama's Orthodox Kosher Kabinet and the Three Stooges are just puppets who take orders?
The takeover in progress has never been done before. No bombers, troops, invasion, nothing. Just a 5th Column that is slowly taking over with an iron fist in a velvet glove. They don't wear badges of rank or uniforms. Only they know the chain of command. We wouldn't recogize the head man if he did come out from the curtain. We do know the top command is in the BIS, and we know they cannot be touched.