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U.S. Government Claims – Just Like the Nazis – that the Truth Is Too Complicated and Dangerous to Disclose to the Public


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In the classic history of Nazi Germany, They Thought They Were Free, Milton Mayer writes:
"What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to being governed by surprise; to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if the people could not understand it, it could not be released because of national security. And their sense of identification with Hitler, their trust in him, made it easier to widen this gap and reassured those who would otherwise have worried about it.
"This separation of government from people, this widening of the gap, took place so gradually and so insensibly, each step disguised (perhaps not even intentionally) as a temporary emergency measure or associated with true patriotic allegiance or with real social purposes. And all the crises and reforms (real reforms, too) so occupied the people that they did not see the slow motion underneath, of the whole process of government growing remoter and remoter.
Similarly, America has - little by little - gone from a nation of laws to a nation of powerful men making laws in secret. Indeed, even Congress doesn't know half of what others are doing.
Secretive, unaccountable agencies are making life and death decisions which effect our most basic rights. They provide "secret evidence" to courts which cannot be checked ... and often withhold any such "evidence" even from the judges. For example:
"I find myself stuck in a paradoxical situation in which I cannot solve a problem because of contradictory constraints and rules — a veritable Catch-22," the judge wrote. "I can find no way around the thicket of laws and precedents that effectively allow the Executive Branch of our Government to proclaim as perfectly lawful certain actions that seem on their face incompatible with our Constitution and laws, while keeping the reasons for their conclusion a secret."
The government uses "secret evidence" to spy on Americans, prosecute leaking or terrorism charges (even against U.S. soldiers) and even assassinate people.
And the government goes after whistleblowers ... and reporters who say too much (and see this).
U.S. government spokesmen pretend - just as the Nazis - that:
- The situation is so complicated that the government has to act on information which the people could not understand
- It is so dangerous that, even if the people could not understand it, it could not be released because of national security
As FireDogLake notes:
Like the iron fist of the Nazis ... Americans must submit to “roving surveillance” and warrantless searches, without the requirement of a Judge’s authorization. Surveillance laws are part of a larger arsenal of weapons against political dissidents and whistle blowers.
Most Americans don’t know the Patriot Act authorizes secret charges relying on secret evidence and secret grand jury statements. Under the Patriot Act, Americans have no right to know who has accused them of what criminal activities, or the dates of the alleged offense.
They’re not even told what law was broken. The government has power to lock up Americans on military bases or other prisons without a hearing or trial. We can be detained indefinitely without any rights of due process at all.
All of this happened in Germany - as in America today - because the governments whipped up so much fear of attack by demonizing the enemy and declaring an open-ended war that people became complacent and stopped thinking for themselves.
As Mayer notes about Nazi Germany, people were too apathetic or scared to stand up for others:
Pastor Niemöller spoke for the thousands and thousands of men like me when he spoke (too modestly of himself) and said that, when the Nazis attacked the Communists, he was a little uneasy, but, after all, he was not a Communist, and so he did nothing; and then they attacked the Socialists, and he was a little uneasier, but, still, he was not a Socialist, and he did nothing; and then the schools, the press, the Jews, and so on, and he was always uneasier, but still he did nothing. And then they attacked the Church, and he was a Churchman, and he did something—but then it was too late."
The same is true in modern America.
Mayer points out:
"You see," my colleague went on, "one doesn’t see exactly where or how to move. Believe me, this is true. Each act, each occasion, is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one great shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join with you in resisting somehow. You don’t want to act, or even talk, alone; you don’t want to ‘go out of your way to make trouble.’ Why not?—Well, you are not in the habit of doing it. And it is not just fear, fear of standing alone, that restrains you; it is also genuine uncertainty.
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"But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands will join with you, never comes. That’s the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions would have been sufficiently shocked—if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in ’43 had come immediately after the ‘German Firm’ stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in ’33. But of course this isn’t the way it happens. In between come all the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D.
The same is happening to Americans today. Indeed, the American government appears to be following the Nazi playbook. The U.S. government - like the SS - may label anyone who disagrees with government policy as crazy or a potential terrorist ... and is claiming more tyrannical powers that even Hitler claimed.
If you think we're exaggerating, just listen to what the prosecutors who convicted the Nazis of war crimes say ...
Benjamin Ferencz - a former chief prosecutor for the Nuremberg Trials against the Nazis - declared:
A prima facie case can be made that the United States is guilty of the supreme crime against humanity — that being an illegal war of aggression against a sovereign nation.
See this, this, and this. In addition, he said:
[A Nuremberg defendant said that he didn't feel bad for killing children and other innocent people] "because we relied on the head of state, Hitler. He had more information than I had, and he told us that the Soviets planned to attack, so it was necessary in presumed self-defense."
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It's very disappointing to find that my government today is prepared to do something for which we hanged Germans as war criminals.
Another Nuremberg prosecutor, Henry King, Jr., said that the Guantanamo trials violate the Nuremberg principles and Geneva Convention.
Allowing medical experimentation on prisoners certainly violates the Nuremberg principles. And leading constitutional law expert Jonathan Turley notes that the government is violating the Nuremberg principles by failing to punish those who created our recent policy of torture.
Note 1: Fascism also happened in Nazi Germany because the taxpayers became responsible for the debts of big corporations, and the corporate sector and authoritarian government worked hand-in-glove. The same is happening in the U.S. right now.
Note 2: For Dems who assume that things improved after Bush, please note that a former Obama security adviser says that Obama is as "ruthless and indifferent to rule of law" as Bush. And see this.
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I remember that the BIS (Bank For International Settlements) was mentioned in the documentary "Thrive" at being at the top of the Pyramid. I read on wiki that originally Nazis were on the Board of Directors of the BIS:
“Between 1933 and 1945, the board of directors of the BIS included Walter Funk, a prominent Nazi official; and Emil Puhl, who were both convicted at the Nuremberg trials after World War II, as well as Hermann Schmitz, the director of IG Farben; and Baron von Schroeder, the owner of the J.H.Stein Bank, the bank that held the deposits of the Gestapo. There were allegations that the BIS had helped the Germans loot assets from occupied countries during World War II.”
^^^^ THIS x 1000
Fuck this shithole. What's the alternative though? Flee to my friends house in S. America where he has to take a bodyguard everywhere he goes? No thanks, ill take my chances here. If there is a so-called save haven it will only be a matter of time before the elite fuck that up as well. These people need to be stopped. The internet is our best friend. I suspect before long "oh we actually need guns confiscated now, you can't go outside after 7pm, and we're shutting off your internet. If we don't the terrorists will surely get you".
Let's cut to the chase.........the US gov't is the fucking terrorist.
S.Eumerica is ,the biggest prison, on this planet yes!
Behind 3-4 doors some of them ironbars,so whos prisoned,and the medias,dont talk so much about the murdering in Sao Paulo Rio D J,which is horrendous,or the crimgang running the contry Charlie Waterfall=Deep Throath of PT,he calls himself,the land with most freesh water,but not a drop to drink,due to an incredible pollution,no lets take the eye away,gota have the Cup of Beer contest in 2014,and somebody gona loose their life there,but the good news,they give the prostitutes lessons in English,wanna fock wanna sock frence swedish spanish,clean or dirty,same price,aids or no aids,feel lucky punk,and you know what,they think they conquered the world,the jokes on me!
"the US gov't is the fucking terrorist"
I've been wanting to put something similar on a bumpersticker. Alas I'm afraid I would be singled out by the very same government and "law enforcement" that keeps terrorizing it's people. Besides the sheeple would never understand. Terrorists are brown skinned people....oh wait! Our current criminal treasonist president matches that description.
The alternative is to organize and fight for freedom.
Holding up in your house with your personal arsenal isn't defending freedom. It certainly isn't working anyway.
Organizing and demonstrating (i.e. putting your ass on the line) is defending freedom.
@midtowng
Organizing < THIS
dont bother demonstrating (has anyone bothered to recalc the rvr on that lately? hello our media is hijacked and the alt media already knows we have tyranny)
unless you can make a protest into a truth bomb to wake up sheeple - treading water - imo
also i hate to see all my best people wasted squaring off with sound cannons and getting thrown into a concrete box where you can be dabatased better for naught.
There are many strategies to successful resistance besides direct confrontation with your oppressors on their turff.
Here's some methods suggested and endorsed by our own CIA for your enjoyment: https://www.cia.gov/news-information/featured-story-archive/2012-feature...
Some handy tips in there... worth reading.
I particularly liked the section on fire and improvised fuses.
Judging from my experience with government workers, I think another all-time favorite is "slacking off" and otherwise being "ineffective" when on the job.
"safe haven" sorry my proofreader is off today as is most other days. And I have fat fingers. LOL.
rsnoble i like what you say
and the way you say it! cheers man. first round is on me.
CRIMINALIZE, former law abiding gun owning citizen tax units, and you remove the voting block that opposed you and the other fascist elite..had to happen, along with tsa hls and irs expansion...they will check off another block on the list of how to undermine a republic.
For future reference you could have just edited your original comment. :)
There are said to be 29 "executive" orders coming down the pike to mitigate the gun violence epidemic. Will people's prized gun colllections become substantially worthless with the stroke of the pen? Will those black rifles become a horrible liability instead of a hedge against anarchy and chaos? I guess I did not sell mine off soon enough.......
Become worthless? More like priceless.
Cool! I'll take any .223, .308, and .357 you have and whatever you used to deploy them with. I'm sure all of us here would be willing to help you clear your conscience. Oh, that's right- you said sell. I was mistaken about the conscience part. My bad!
Feinstein has a "buyback" program, so the guns won't be "worthless". The guns will be bought by our government; given to Israel, and then sold on the world market for a wonderful profit. It's called "risk arbitrage".
okay okay
you won me back with that comment, it makes up for your comically bad pretend analysis earlier
Obama can take his e-orders and stick them up his fucking ass and eat shit, fuck off and die while he's at it. We could fit him, finklefuckstein, ben and biden all in one fema coffin. It may require a bit of rearranging of bodyparts with several shovel blows but it can be done.
rsnoble you sir, are a fucking champion
I read the same "fear mongering" here about Obama that was made about Bush when he was president. These men just do what they are told. You people know that. So, why the Obama bashing? And guess what? The next president will be no different. He or she will be "George W. Bush, Part 3". How about identifying and going after the "puppet-masters"? They are real people; not the invisible globalist "boogeymen" that Alex Jones screams about.
this is what happens when you watch TV
Funny, I am pretty sure Obama is a grown man. Sure, we know there are people trying to "call the shots" behind the scenes. But the last I checked, grown ups are resposible for their own actions. That is why we have the right to "bash" his actions.
Funny, I am pretty sure Obama is a grown man.
I'm not.
You go first....
Bobby Bilderberg and Richie Rothschild?
One must embrace an existential mindset to remain happy in these times. I’m watching the Koi in the aquarium and enjoying a cup of coffee. Let go of material wants and enjoy the sensual parts of life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUt-06zItV4
this espresso is to you good sir
a good philosophy
and moreover, we must show the enemy our white teeth and smile like the noble creatures we are
we are not mere dogs and base creatures - we are noble and great, not trash and refuse
humanity is too good.
the entire universe is in each grain of sand and we must at times like these embrace a pure EXUSTENZ PHILOSOPHIE and anti-nihilism
Oh! the joy of the convalescant! (the spots of sunlight on the wall) as nietzsche said - this and gallows humor, standing the absurd enemy upon its head the way WB7 does so well
lampooning the enemy is also good for the spirit! and talking to like minded souls *nods*
a culture is brewing! humans who not only shoot at princes but who ENJOY beating up bullies of every stripe!
A reality grand scale version of the Milgram experiment but as with the Nazis people actually die in the end as they are in the US and around the world right now
bingo
Exactly, I'll go search for a link.
Cut the strings between the puppeteer and the puppet and return to Constitutional money creation.
this is the single most important thing
Constitutional money
couldnt agree more, everything else flows therefrom, it is the primary mechanism of enslavement
So when do we march in protest on DC? I'm ready but I suggest this summer when it is warmer. Although secession seems like it would be more effective since DC is now beyond turning around. The crimminal aspect there has rotted the system throughout and democracy is dead.
SGG silver, guns and gold.
i like where your heads at though dude dont get me wrong
marching, protests etc,. are ineffective and seem to me like 60's cointelpro memes parsed to hte masses to short circuit genuine POLITICAL ORGANIZATION (resulting in englightened persons holding High elected offices with Real Power)
sadly the radicals took over, funded by the NWO
left (obama, brezinksi et al.)
and right (straussians, neocons etc.)
same way the NWO funds any radical group, because for them the most fertiel soil is CHAOS
i think were better off with information and cultural warfare, that and physically leaving the system
real money, real communities, real food etc.
@ q99x2,
Thank you for using "Criminal" to describe these Treasonist as I use it constantly. They claim National Security as their reasons to justify their Criminality. The only National Security they're protecting is their own from the Crimes Against Humanity, Crimes Against The American People and Treason the Criminals have committed.
It's a Global Criminal Cabal Crime Syndicate.
Amen.
On the bright side, they no longer hate us for our freedom.
"On the bright side, they no longer hate us for our freedom."
good one :)
very droll, but quite, mmm yes.
*smokes a pipe and adjusts monocle*
bush was serious
The Terrorists, who attacked us on 911 HATE US FOR OUR FREEDOMS
yes, gentlemen, the elite who have run this planet for millennia- HATE US.
and the tyrants of today are the same case histories and psychological makeups as mayan priests presiding over blood rituals (lets be frank)
correct, they are more and more busy just watching amazed how you took over that job yourselves
Again, when are you going to get it. The American Reoublic is over. The Usurpation of the Presidency by non natural born Citizen Obama ended it. He was born BRITISH, of a British subject father, and that dual allegiance at birth voids eligibility. The NWO and Congress know all of this, and know that the Constitution is meaningless when the POTUS, who is the executor of the laws, is not eligible for the office. There are more Constitutional constraints on government power. and no more sovereignty for US Citizens--- and it was planned that way. This is the consolidation of power phase. Your liberty was stolen while you looked down at your Chinese slave labor made IPHONE. Speak the whole truth and it will set you free. The erosion of liberty is the SYMPTOM if the Usurpation. The first step in restoring the Republic is the recognition of an illegal President. Everything else is useless whining.
an idea cannot be over
a perspective resides in the sole repository for universal truth: THE HUMAN MIND/BODY
Everything is Obama's fault. repeat and echo
Always compare to Nazi... How about the Bolsheviks for a change?
Easy, Nicholas II was a monarch. Hitler, like Obama, was "elected".