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9/11 Military Trial Judge - Like 9/11 Commission - Frustrated by Government Shenanigans
Huffington Post reports:
A judge expressed frustration on Monday that an unknown U.S. government entity censored his courtroom audiovisual feed, cutting public access to pretrial hearings for five accused Sept. 11 plotters.
“If some external body is turning the commission on or off based on their own views of what things ought to be, with no reasonable explanation … then we’re going to have a little meeting about who turns that light on and off,” said the judge, Col. James Pohl.
Pohl’s comments came after an unknown censor cut off a live media feed to the court proceedings as David Nevin, a lawyer defending Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, began discussing his request for information on his client’s case.
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A court security officer positioned next to the judge has the ability to dump the feed if anything secret arises. That officer didn’t activate the censorship button on Monday.
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“I would like to know who has the permission to turn that light on and off, who is listening to this, who is controlling these proceedings, or controlling that aspect of these proceedings,” Nevin said.
This is just one of a series of outrages regarding investigation and trial of alleged 9/11 terrorists.
In 2008, the former chief prosecutor for Guantánamo’s military commissions disclosed that the trials have been rigged to prevent the possibility of acquittal. Specifically, the head of the Guantanamo tribunal — who is actually in charge of both prosecuting and defending the suspects — told the former chief prosecutor:
Wait a minute, we can’t have acquittals. If we’ve been holding these guys for so long, how can we explain letting them get off? We can’t have acquittals, we’ve got to have convictions.
In addition, three other Guantanamo prosecutors — Maj. Robert Preston, Capt. John Carr and Capt. Carrie Wolf — “asked to be relieved of duties after saying they were concerned that the process was rigged. One said he had been assured he didn’t need to worry about building a proper case; convictions were assured.”
Another former Guantanamo prosecutor resigned, saying in a sworn declaration that the government pulled all sorts of shenanigans in one case.
The head of the tribunal also said that — even if the defendants are somehow acquitted — they may not be released from Guantanamo.
No wonder the American Bar Association, “which the Pentagon had said would help arrange such representation, has refused to participate because it objects to the trial procedures.” And no wonder the defense attorneys who have agreed to represent the defendants say that the process is completely unfair. See also this interview.
MSNBC speculated that the U.S. put a “stun belt” on alleged terrorist Moussaoui during his trial to keep him in line:
9/11 Commissioners Slam Blatant Obstruction of Justice
The 9/11 Commissioners publicly expressed anger at cover ups and obstructions of justice by the government into a real 9/11 investigation:
- The Commission’s co-chairs said that the CIA (and likely the White House) “obstructed our investigation”
- 9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey said that “There are ample reasons to suspect that there may be some alternative to what we outlined in our version . . . We didn’t have access . . . .”
- 9/11 Commissioner Timothy Roemer said “We were extremely frustrated with the false statements we were getting”
- 9/11 Commissioner Max Cleland resigned from the Commission, stating: “It is a national scandal”; “This investigation is now compromised”; and “One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9-11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up”
- The Senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission (John Farmer) – who led the 9/11 staff’s inquiry – said “At some level of the government, at some point in time…there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened“. He also said “I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described …. The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years…. This is not spin. This is not true.”
And the Co-Chair of the official Congressional Inquiry Into 9/11 – and former head of the Senate Intelligence Committee – has called for a new 9/11 investigation.
Some examples of obstruction of justice into the 9/11 investigation include:
- An FBI informant hosted and rented a room to two hijackers in 2000. Specifically, investigators for the Congressional Joint Inquiry discovered that an FBI informant had hosted and even rented a room to two hijackers in 2000 and that, when the Inquiry sought to interview the informant, the FBI refused outright, and then hid him in an unknown location, and that a high-level FBI official stated these blocking maneuvers were undertaken under orders from the White House. As the New York Times notes:
Senator Bob Graham, the Florida Democrat who is a former chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, accused the White House on Tuesday of covering up evidence ….The accusation stems from the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s refusal to allow investigators for a Congressional inquiry and the independent Sept. 11 commission to interview an informant, Abdussattar Shaikh, who had been the landlord in San Diego of two Sept. 11 hijackers.
- The chairs of both the 9/11 Commission and the Official Congressional Inquiry into 9/11 said that Soviet-style government “minders” obstructed the investigation into 9/11 by intimidating witnesses
- The 9/11 Commissioners concluded that officials from the Pentagon lied to the Commission, and considered recommending criminal charges for such false statements
- The tape of interviews of air traffic controllers on-duty on 9/11 was intentionally destroyed by crushing the cassette by hand, cutting the tape into little pieces, and then dropping the pieces in different trash cans around the building as shown by this NY Times article (summary version is free; full version is pay-per-view) and by this article from the Chicago Sun-Times
- As reported by ACLU, FireDogLake, RawStory and many others, declassified documents shows that Senior Bush administration officials sternly cautioned the 9/11 Commission against probing too deeply into the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001
Both the 9/11 Trials and the 9/11 Commission Investigation Were Based on Unreliable Evidence Produced by Torture
9/11 Commission co-chairs Thomas Keane and Lee Hamilton wrote:
Those who knew about those videotapes — and did not tell us about them — obstructed our investigation.
The chief lawyer for Guantanamo litigation – Vijay Padmanabhan – said that torture of 9/11 suspects was widespread. And Susan J. Crawford, the senior Pentagon official overseeing the military commissions at Guantánamo — the novel system of trials for terror suspects that was conceived in the wake of the 9/11 attacks — told Bob Woodward:
We tortured Qahtani. His treatment met the legal definition of torture.
Moreover, the type of torture used by the U.S. on the Guantanamo suspects is of a special type. Senator Levin revealed that the the U.S. used Communist torture techniques specifically aimed at creating false confessions. (and see this, this, this and this). And according to NBC News:
- Much of the 9/11 Commission Report was based upon the testimony of people who were tortured
- At least four of the people whose interrogation figured in the 9/11 Commission Report have claimed that they told interrogators information as a way to stop being “tortured.”
- One of the Commission’s main sources of information was tortured until he agreed to sign a confession that he was NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO READ
- The 9/11 Commission itself doubted the accuracy of the torture confessions, and yet kept their doubts to themselves
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Yesterday I was told by GW fans to lighten up on GW and if I don't like his posts and to go read other crap from the likes of Huffington post. Today GW cuts and pastes his story directly from the huff. No one sees the hypocrisy. And yet again GW passes off someone else's story as one of his own. Regurgitate. Cut and paste. Regurgitate some more. Brilliant work (sarcasm).
Mainstream Leaders Say Blogs Are Valuable News Sources:
"Because mainstream media and even social media tend to censor, many people are turning to blogs for unfiltered news and opinions from top experts."
Tend to censor? The first thing MSM puppets do when they get up in the morning is look in the mirror and lie to themselves! Bastard people I tell ya! Bastard people!
Love your work GW!
Ok, but your puppet otto didn't seem to think that yday.... Do you always vote for your own comments and against anyone who points out your weaknesses?
Nice demonstration of the fact that propaganda is everywhere.
Heres why................
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqHIPzTACrM
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/detail/1100-green-bere...
The article was too long so let me ask you this. Are they finally going to prosecute Cheney for treason?
LOL. More likely, he'll get a medal.
Yeah--hey, it takes guts to murder 3K of your fellow citizens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1vwjFhF4dA
1:08-1:22
movie released in 1996!
What I find very frustrating is - if you show information like this to people - many of them look at it like it's a poisonous snake.
I'm reluctant to even try any more because a few times arguments have become so heated it nearly came to throwing hands.
People accuse me of being "unpatriotic" and I accuse them of being ignorant.
DO NOT READ THIS! IT IS BAD AND NOT APPROVED FOR OFFICIAL DISSEMINATION!
Many sociologists and mental health professionals say that those who
believe the official version without any questioning are the ones
suffering from psychological defense mechanisms.
Sociologists say that fear of terrorism has made people blindly accept false justifications for war – including the false claim that Saddam had a hand in 9/11 (when even the 9/11 Commission says he didn’t).
And the following mental health professionals say that questioning the government’s cut-and-dried version of 9/11 is the sane thing to do:
Duke University Medical Center, as well as Radiology, at Duke University
Medical Center D. Lawrence Burk, Jr., MD
Associate Dean of the Graduate School at Rutgers University Barry R. Komisaruk
Policy, Professor of Medicine in the Department of Internal Medicine and
Distinguished Professor of Global Health in the College of Public
Health, University of South Florida, Michael D. Knox
Medical School, University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey Laura Schafer
Development and Training, Massachusetts Department of Mental Health, and
Lecturer in Psychology, Boston University Herbert Hoffman
Major, U.S. Army Medical Corps, Vietnam Veteran 7 years service, Jon Bjornson, MD
There are many other mental health professionals who agree.
Thats a bingo!
I wish there was a way to save comments like this one. Like right click and save as or something.
well... it would be LOGICAL to assess those that know and believe the official story as suffering from a psychological problem. because it's bogus, a fairy tale.
PROOF:
militairy grade nano-thermate (a thermitic material) has been found in the rubble and confirmed in a peer-reviewed scientific publication.
this means the offical story is a LIE and the WTC buildings (1,2,6 and 7) were BLOWN UP
Publication Prof. Niels Harrit http://www.nielsharrit.org/
an interview worth watching: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT-pFzOo5YM
(i've posted this before but it bears repeating)
Actually, GW, that entire video from AE 911 Truth is invaluable.
I've found that all I can do is to find out what someone believes, then start questioning them. That way, instead of emotional rebuttals over "facts," they have to try and rationalize their own beliefs (an intellectual exercise). It isn't anymore difficult than addressing the incoherence you see that they don't.
Then again, some people will stop at nothing in order to protect the sanctity of their incoherent beliefs, as some cannot tolerate losing their basis for reality.
Simply put, arguing with someone will never change their minds, but rather, will only prompt the emotional reaction to strengthen their resolve in order to better defend their faith. Which is why I don't get into lengthy point/counter-point battles anymore. If I argue against someone here, for example (or ridicule their position), I don't expect to get anywhere with them. Instead, I hope that someone else will make the same connection that I have.
Yes, it really is a personal thing.
Back then when it happened, I worked for a company that had well over a thousand people working in the two towers.
The company sent out a request to out of state IT volunteers to get an infrastucture running in a new building and I was there a few days later.
For years after that I was foaming at the mouth for shock and awe revenge. I have no idea exactly what happened but from what I've seen - it was not what we've been told.
That is a big leap to even entertain the notion the govt. was involved somehow.
I made the leap and feel it's almost a duty to show others, but you're right, people have to look for themselves.
You can't punch or shout it into anyone's head.
[edit - many thanks GW]
The perpetrators of this hoaks must have questioned numerous moves and ways to answer discrepancies. But this is such a blatant, "in your face" and fuck you for questioning authority rebuttal that most people turn and convince themselves that it must have been a foreign entity who hates the US. Most people have heard of the questions but cannot believe that the US would have killed and injured so many people just to muster sympathy and "do what you have to do" from the rest of the world.
The rest of the world then took their side and became accessories after the fact.
Sure,we knowit was an inside job Geoerge.
But get on with it. allready.
So the big question is ,How do we start informing and educating the people of the world that they are being laced with chemicals from stratotankers,by airforce military daily and have been for years.
George,do you not believe this is happening?
Try and teach the sheeple something they do not all ready know.
It's the real deal ....
I used to think chemtrails or whatever they are was just a bunch of tin-foil non-sense.
A few weeks ago I was walking back from the mailbox and saw a bunch of trails from planes at high altitude.
One of them, at the very end of the trail (closest to the plane), had a perfectly vertical and narrow black line heading straight to the ground.
My driveway is long and by the time I got my camera the black line was gone but some *very* strange looking clouds remained.
I did get pictures of those and I could not possibly care less who believes me but I saw that black line.
Uhmmmm..how did the military industrial complex and Bush and Julianni get 12 little brown em to cremate themselves.to provoke the massacre of their fellow jihadist. Hard to get zealots to do this for $$$$ legacy to their starving families-several were well to do. We're they CIA zombies?
You are basing your moronic spew on the US government's version of events. In other words......you don't have a clue about the facts of the matter. In fact, few do at this point, and we will probably never know all the facts. That does not mean we should stop digging for the truth. I don't know what happened on 911, but I do know that anyone who thinks that our government is not capable and willing to sacrifice innocent American lives to further their agenda (whatever it may be) is a fool. It wouldn't be the first time.
You mean the patsies they setup in advance? LOL
Surely you don't believe that barely trained pilots could pull off those maneuvers, do you?
When are we stop going to let pussies run this country? Double tap to the back of the head for these guys at Gitmo, and be done with it.
Gosh what a fucking idiot you are.
Looking at past posts leads me to file them in the "Righty Kool-Aide Drinker" file. Too much banter for a sock-puppet or professional troll.
If Americans can't get justice why should anyone else?
The game is rigged everywhere. It just hurts to think that the world's greatest democracy is no more a democracy.
Peter, the USA if you're referring to it, is a Democratic Republic, supposedly an actual one where majority votes instill leadership (democracy) and leadership represents the will of the people (republic). That is all.
Thanks, GW for staying on the hunt. You're a true Patriot.
David Ray Griffin called the 9/11 commission report a 571 page lie. Max Cleland resigned from the 9/11 commission because "The White House Has Played Cover-Up."
The 9/11 Commission Report: A 571-Page Lie
by Dr. David Ray Griffin
Sunday, May 22, 2005
In discussing my second 9/11 book, The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions, I have often said, only half in jest, that a better title might have been "a 571-page lie." (Actually, I was saying "a 567-page lie," because I was forgetting to count the four pages of the Preface.) In making this statement, one of my points has been that the entire Report is constructed in support of one big lie: that the official story about 9/11 is true.
1. The omission of evidence that at least six of the alleged hijackers---including Waleed al-Shehri, said by the Commission probably to have stabbed a flight attendant on Flight 11 before it crashed into the North Tower of the WTC---are still alive (19-20).
2. The omission of evidence about Mohamed Atta---such as his reported fondness for alcohol, pork, and lap dances---that is in tension with the Commission's claim that he had become fanatically religious (20-21).
3. The obfuscation of the evidence that Hani Hanjour was too poor a pilot to have flown an airliner into the Pentagon (21-22).
4. The omission of the fact that the publicly released flight manifests contain no Arab names (23).
5. The omission of the fact that fire has never, before or after 9/11, caused steel-frame buildings to collapse (25).
6. The omission of the fact that the fires in the Twin Towers were not very big, very hot, or very long-lasting compared with fires in several steel-frame buildings that did not collapse (25-26).
7. The omission of the fact that, given the hypothesis that the collapses were caused by fire, the South Tower, which was struck later than the North Tower and also had smaller fires, should not have collapsed first (26).
8. The omission of the fact that WTC 7 (which was not hit by an airplane and which had only small, localized fires) also collapsed---an occurrence that FEMA admitted it could not explain (26).
9. The omission of the fact that the collapse of the Twin Towers (like that of Building 7) exemplified at least 10 features suggestive of controlled demolition (26-27).
10. The claim that the core of each of the Twin Towers was "a hollow steel shaft"---a claim that denied the existence of the 47 massive steel columns that in reality constituted the core of each tower and that, given the "pancake theory" of the collapses, should have still been sticking up many hundreds of feet in the air (27-28).
11. The omission of Larry Silverstein's statement that he and the fire department commander decided to "pull" Building 7 (28).
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http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20050523112738404
Good, JO. Griffin is one of the best authors around on 911.
Architects and Engineers for 911 truth!
http://www.ae911truth.org/en/home.html
They have made some very intriguing documentaries - http://www.youtube.com/user/ae911truth?feature=watch
All in less than 5 minutes
http://www.corbettreport.com/911-a-conspiracy-theory/
DavidPierre: That is the finest summary I have ever read. Even included Able Danger. All the trimmings.
Highly recommended.
This is why catch and release of these bad guys is bullshit.
Execute them on the battelfield or next to it.
i don't believe you read the article.
OK troll, I trust you're on your way to the recruiting station?
Better yet, become a mercenary so we don't have to foot the bill for your stupidity.
And why aren't the likes of Bush and Cheney in the hot seat at this trial? They're going to fry a bunch of goat herders and case closed. Everyone with half a brain knows this is all bullshit.
It's a perk of the job that torturers and murders bestow upon their predecessors. Obama, who's really a complete neocon puppet when it comes to foreign policy, actively worked to block any investigations into the conduct of the Bush administration.
http://jonathanturley.org/2010/12/02/wikileaks-obama-administration-secr...
nothing to see here
move along
12/14 hook 'em danno...
3/11 ride the wave...
old Jonesy really likes the deep-link bullet point format btw
like a barrage of fire at the enemy
Nothing new about any of this. Right now I'm reading about the Pearl Harbor investigations, and I could cut and paste the book practically word for word, changing only names, dates and places, and it would read exactly as this article does.
In both cases, at a minimum, the acts were allowed in order to create a casus belli. And regardless of the scandals after the fact, they got the wars they wanted.
Greaves' book on Pearl Harbor can be downloaded for free from here.
http://mises.org/document/5364
The real Khalid Sheikh Mohammed died in Kuwait in 1990:
http://youtu.be/YZVz9d3k-OI
The whole black operation that was 9/11 was ultimately Moscow's doing:
http://thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com/2010/09/russia-was-behind-911.html
Um, Russians planted bombs in the WTC towers and 7? Russians engineered the American cover-up? Foolish beyond belief. Russians coordinated the drills? I could go on, but why?