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Is Copyright Infringement Now Seen As Terrorism?

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We reported last year:

The government treats copyright infringers as terrorists, and swat teams have been deployed against them. See this, this, this and this.

 

As the executive director of the Information Society Project at Yale Law School notes:

This administration … publishes a newsletter about its efforts with language that compares copyright infringement to terrorism.

The American government is using copyright laws to crack down on political dissent just like China and Russia.

We noted last month that the “cyber-security” laws have very little to do with security.

The Verge reported last month:

In the State of the Union address Tuesday, President Obama announced a sweeping executive order implementing new national cybersecurity measures, opening the door for intelligence agencies to share more information about suspected “cyber threats” with private companies that oversee the nation’s “critical infrastructure.” The order is voluntary, giving companies the choice of whether or not they want to receive the information, and takes effect in four months, by June 12.

 

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“Cyber threats cover a wide range of malicious activity that can occur through cyberspace,” wrote Caitlin Hayden, spokeswoman for the White House National Security Council, in an email to The Verge. “Such threats include web site defacement, espionage, theft of intellectual property, denial of service attacks, and destructive malware.”

 

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“The EO [executive order] relies on the definition of critical infrastructure found in the Homeland Security Act of 2002,” Hayden wrote.

 

The Homeland Security Act of 2002 (PDF), passed in the wake of the September 11, 2001 terror attacks, was what created the Department of Homeland Security. At that time, the US was still reeling from the attacks and Congress sought to rapidly bolster the nation’s defenses, including “critical infrastructure” as part of its definition of “terrorism.” As the act states: “The term ‘terrorism’ means any activity that involves an act that is dangerous to human life or potentially destructive of critical infrastructure or key resources…”

 

But again, that act doesn’t exactly spell out which infrastructure is considered “critical,” instead pointing to the definition as outlined in a 2001 bill, also passed in response to September 11, which reads:

“The term “critical infrastructure” means systems and assets, whether physical or virtual, so vital to the United States that the incapacity or destruction of such systems and assets would have a debilitating impact on security, national economic security, national public health or safety, or any combination of those matters.”

This is the same exact definition that was originally provided in the president’s cybersecurity order as originally published on Tuesday, meaning that the White House appears to be relying to some degree on circular reasoning when it comes to that definition. Some in Washington, including the right-leaning think tank The Heritage Foundation, are worried that the definition is too broad and “could be understood to include systems normally considered outside the cybersecurity conversation, such as agriculture.”

 

In fact, the Department of Homeland Security, which is one of the agencies that will be sharing information on cyber threats thanks to the order, includes 18 different industries in its own label of “critical infrastructure,” from agriculture to banking to national monuments. There’s an argument to be made that including such a broad and diverse swath of industries under the blanket term “critical” is reasonable given the overall increasing dependence of virtually all businesses on the internet for core functions. But even in that case, its unclear how casting such a wide net would be helpful in defending against cyber threats, especially as there is a limited pool of those with the expertise and ability to do so.

It’s not just intellectual property.  The government is widely using anti-terror laws to help giant businesses … and to crush those who speak out against their abusive practices, labeling anyone who speaks out as a potential bad guy.

 


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Tue, 03/05/2013 - 04:44 | Link to Comment AnAnonymous
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Human beings are mimetic beings.

Considering that a large share of the volumes of 'american' trades is constituted with IP, 'americans' have no other solution but to enforce IP violently.

Once IP is removed, what are 'americans' left with selling?

'Americans' have made a lot of claims about IP and its benefits, like it favours creativity,innovation etc

But the reality is that 'americans' have to put a barrier on mimetism because IP constitutes such a volumes of their trades.

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 16:04 | Link to Comment tip e. canoe
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excellent point

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 02:37 | Link to Comment are we there yet
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Every year the definition of terrorism becomes looser and more watered down until it means anything that any government branch wants it to mean. Where does this end up?

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 02:37 | Link to Comment q99x2
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That's just this set of crooks. We'll have the constitution of the United States of America re-established again in a few years. This is just letting everyone know who the real enemies are so when the time comes.

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 02:08 | Link to Comment Radical Marijuana
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Welcome to the Bizarro Mirror World, Folks!

The government is the biggest terrorist.

Anyone who does not agree with the government's legalized lies, backed by its legalized violence, is therefore called a terrorist. It is the sublimely immaculate hypocrisy that the biggest terrorists accuse everyone else of being terrorists. The whole system never really had anything to do with the "consent of the governed." The government was always organized gangs of criminals, covertly controlled by the best organized gangs of criminals. Private property was never anything more than organized systems of lies, operating organized systems of robbery. Of course, that was done through requiring everyone to pay for enforcing that. Anyone who does not agree with that overall system of lies, backed by violence, controlling their lives, is therefore going to be accused of being a "terrorist."

This runaway insanity of triumphant lies controlling civilization is never going to get better, within the foreseeable future. All the rights and freedoms that our ancestors were able to fight for, from the Magna Carta, to the Bill of Rights, are disappearing, because there are no longer any sane ways to fight the biggest terrorists with their own terrorism, after the development of weapons of mass destruction. There no longer are any sane ways to resist the destruction of our rights and freedoms, because there are no longer any sane ways to fight, after the development of weapons of mass destruction.

The government has become runaway triumphant terrorism, on an astronomically amplified scale, which can not be sanely resisted, because of the magnitude of that astronomically amplified scale. There is no sane way to resist a government with weapons of mass destruction, because that would really take more weapons of mass destruction, which would create a situation that is insane, because everyone would lose such a fight. However, there is no way out of this runaway social insanity. The government is a runaway gang of terrorists, which are going to deem everyone else who may resist to be terrorists. The end game is that everyone becomes terrorists, that terrorize everyone, without any end in sight to how much more insane that overall situation is going to become!

The old fashioned balance of power problems, of the dynamic equilibria of different systems of organized lies, operating organized robberies, has become the postmodernized version of that, demonstrating the practical impossibilities of balancing the terrorisms from those who have an abundance of weapons of mass destruction. The old-fashioned potential sanity of resisting tyranny has been swept away by the tsunamis of powers of weapons which are trillions of times bigger, in the context of social systems which can use trillions of times more information.

Science and technology have amplified everything by many orders of magnitude, therefore, governments have become many millions of times bigger terrorists, which are therefore attempting to terrorize their people many millions of times more than ever before in history. Meanwhile, all of the people who get labelled as terrorists because they resist that tyranny are also swept up in the overall social insanities of having organized systems of lies, backed by organized systems of robberies, being amplified in to astronomical sizes ...

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 04:32 | Link to Comment AnAnonymous
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In 'american' societies, the government is the executive arm of We The People aka the 'american' middle class.

Mon, 03/04/2013 - 23:16 | Link to Comment DrLamer
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This is official:

The last and final court hearing in a trial "God vs. North American Colony of Israel" will be

Kirtsaeng v. John Wiley & Sons

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U.S. Museums Concerned About Unartful Impact of SCOTUS Copyright Case

"On its face, the case before the High Court, Kirtsaeng v. John Wiley & Sons, has nothing to do modern art. The case concerns Supap Kirtsaeng, who came to the U.S. from Thailand to study at Cornell University—and found that textbooks published in Asia by Wiley were cheaper than those available in the U.S. He got relatives to ship copies of the textbooks to him and made money selling them on eBay. Wiley sued Kirtsaeng for infringing its U.S. copyrights on the books’ domestic editions.

Kirtsaeng’s defense was based on a provision of copyright law first recognized by the Supreme Court in 1908 called the “first-sale doctrine,” which allows people to sell used books without permission from the copyright owner. Wiley, however, argued that the first-sale doctrine does not apply to books or other copyrighted materials made overseas. The federal district court and the Second Circuit Court of Appeals agreed with Wiley, and Kirtsaeng appealed the case to the Supreme Court. "

http://www.law.com/corporatecounsel/PubArticleCC.jsp?id=1202575170197&US...

"Your right to resell your own stuff is in peril"

http://articles.marketwatch.com/2012-10-12/finance/34240922_1_copyright-...

"Supreme Court Weighing ‘First Sale’ Copyright Doctrine"

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/10/scotus-first-sale-2/

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/10/26/justice/court-student-copyright

http://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?Search=Kirtsaeng&type=Site

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The final decision of SCOTUS is expected in the summer 2013.

Beware.

This will be the final standing of modern USA's versus GOD, of modern USA's insanity.

Bible, Book of Ezekiel 7:27 :

"7:27 The king will go into mourning,
the prince will be clothed with fright,
and the hands of the people of the land
will tremble in terror.
I will treat them as their way of life deserves and judge them as they have judged others.
Then they will know that I am GOD”.

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 00:55 | Link to Comment Troy Ounce
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Oh fuck...religion....RUN!

Mon, 03/04/2013 - 22:44 | Link to Comment Bear
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1984

Mon, 03/04/2013 - 21:35 | Link to Comment Westcoastliberal
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Look, the facts prove something other than "Democracy" is leading this country and has been since, oh say, about January 20, 2001.  I'm serious.  It's the same bunch of assholes who brought us 911, at least 2 undeclared wars and many more illegal military actions, and they've wiped those asses with the Constitution.  The list goes on and on, and Obama is but a pawn.

Thanks GW for bringing this latest episode of "What's my Crime".

Mon, 03/04/2013 - 20:47 | Link to Comment torabora
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I'm really looking forward to "The Ministry of Truth". All our words belong to them.

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 02:51 | Link to Comment are we there yet
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The Utah traffic depository is active now.... So we may be 'a person of interest' as in the TV series.

Mon, 03/04/2013 - 17:43 | Link to Comment hedgeless_horseman
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The very worst of all plagiarists are the lawyers.  Show me one original contract, motion, etc.

Mon, 03/04/2013 - 20:08 | Link to Comment Umh
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While you are correct being original would be self defeating since almost all legal cases  are  built on precedence. At best a good lawyer is a glorified librarian.

Mon, 03/04/2013 - 17:47 | Link to Comment Jim in MN
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You mean, their clerks presumably.  The attorneys rarely even edit most actions.  They are merely the directors of plagiarism.  On the other hand, who copyrights a legal motion? 

 

Be funny to start...that could fuck things up a bit.

Mon, 03/04/2013 - 17:05 | Link to Comment MeelionDollerBogus
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Copyright ITSELF is an act of terrorism: first it's used to take away OUR RIGHT TO SPEECH and INNOVATION, finally it's used to take away our right to FOOD - Monsanto now can sue any gardener or farmer and your food is GONE and so is your land, total bankruptcy.

REVOKE COPYRIGHT BEFORE IT KILLS US ALL.

Mon, 03/04/2013 - 17:42 | Link to Comment All Risk No Reward
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Another aspect of this is selective enforcement.  If the establishment doesn't like you telling the truth and outing the criminals and their criminal operations...

Debt Money Tyranny

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/4768883/debtmoneytyranny-6-1-pdf-60k?tr=77

Weapons of Mass Debt

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/3324744/wmdebt-graph-3-79k

...then they come after you and make your life a living h*ll while protecting the criminals who loot billions from citizens accounts - I'm talking about the criminals who work for Big Finance Capital front JP Morgan.

"A society is not stable unless it is on the whole satisfactory to the holders of power and the holders of power are not exposed to the risk of successful revolution."
~Bertrand Russell

"Gradually, by selective breeding, the congenital differences between rulers and ruled will increase until they become almost different species. A revolt of the plebs would become as unthinkable as an organised insurrection of sheep against the practice of eating mutton."
~Bertrand Russell

"The need for a world government, if the population problem is to be solved in any humane manner, is completely evident on Darwinian principles."
~Bertrand Russell

Russell propsed that the "rulers" (Debt Money Tyrants criminal sociopaths) will kill off the "ruled."

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/4768883/debtmoneytyranny-6-1-pdf-60k?tr=77

http://www.ishtarsgate.com/forum/showthread.php?3824-Bertrand-Russell-an...

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 05:21 | Link to Comment MeelionDollerBogus
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Absolutely that's a huge factor.

The judgement of litigation depends entirely on if DISNEY is in the PLAINTIFF or DEFENDANT side of the case - or Monsanto, Pfizer, etc. These fuckers get to break the law but 1 mp3 file and you will have your ass 30 years in prison if the DOJ feels like it.

So... that's the real low-down.

Mon, 03/04/2013 - 16:43 | Link to Comment blindman
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was it humpty dumpty that claimed words mean whatever
he chose them to mean? do we have the humpty dumpty
security state now? i hope not because it doesn't end
well.
.
how long till all literature, science theology etc ..
is termed terroristic? all education and thought
terrorism? separation of powers, due process,
rule of law all inconsequential due to the very
paranoid insecurity born of open criminal activity
at the highest places of political and legislative power.
.
they will continue untill they are outnumbered by some
amount, say 200,000 to 1 at which time they will
have committed suicide by popular dissent, sorta
like those that commit suicide by cop. the population
is always the final arbiter of justice, for better or worse,
right or wrong. it seems to be just a fact of life that
unpredictably expresses itself in it's own good time.
you do what you can to repress it but then, damn, there
it is. and it sits there in the back of every human skull,
waiting and wondering, how much more can i take of the madness?
the poor people asking, how to end the madness?
i think it is historic in it's expression?
it is good to pray for peace and plea for forgiveness.
if that doesn't work plea insanity and throw yourself at
the mercy of the court of public opinion.
good luck !
.
"'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean - neither more nor less.'

Lewis Carroll " ....
so speech is a form of terrorism too, as is thought and thinking.
and of course the lack of thought or thinking and the failure to
make the correct speech could also be, perhaps, a lesser violation.
.
off the rails clown colony is pretty obvious i would say,
yet they take themselves so seriously, they dress their clown
brains up so well they fool even themselves. that is common too
i guess.
there is the breed of human that has forsaken integrity, sincerity
and principle entirely in favor of the short term goal which they
immediately lose sight of as they are seduced by the action of the
inside con that is their art. the truly lost and well to do professional.
they never see anything like justice coming because they believe that
has been vanquished and is an impossibility.
again, good luck

Mon, 03/04/2013 - 17:34 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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You need to learn to turn off "rich-text" when pasting copied text if you ever want anyone to read it.

Mon, 03/04/2013 - 21:39 | Link to Comment blindman
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copied text? want anyone to read it?
you lost me.
i just comment and have lost hope regarding
hope and random readers. the people i need to hear
my thoughts already know them, of course,
all others are welcome.
admittedly it is weird, fine as it is

Mon, 03/04/2013 - 18:09 | Link to Comment blindman
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i don't get it, you can't read the text?
the links? please explain

Mon, 03/04/2013 - 20:09 | Link to Comment Umh
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I see text, but zero links.

Mon, 03/04/2013 - 21:22 | Link to Comment blindman
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there are no links, the text is all in this case
and it may be unintelligible. there it is and there ya go,
good luck.

Mon, 03/04/2013 - 16:30 | Link to Comment Ignatius
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The US has evolved into a corporate controlled state.  Anything that gets between the ruling banks and corporations and their profits is the enemy.  It's neither liberal nor conservative -- that's just for show -- and the real battle will be between those who have figured this out and who are desperate enough and/or those who care enough to change it, and those functionaries who will continue to do the corporate state's bidding.

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 04:36 | Link to Comment AnAnonymous
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Corporations are creatures of 'american' middle class societies. They exist to satisfy and provide for the middle class.

Mon, 03/04/2013 - 17:36 | Link to Comment fourchan
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maybe thats all its ever been.

Mon, 03/04/2013 - 16:23 | Link to Comment steve from virginia
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"He who seeks to defend everything defends nothing,"

Frederick the Great

 

 

Mon, 03/04/2013 - 18:38 | Link to Comment OpenThePodBayDoorHAL
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they just cast the blanket as wide as possible, then they can selectively pick out the victims they want, no problem

Mon, 03/04/2013 - 16:16 | Link to Comment Lordflin
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No... the problem is lack of spine. I was raised with the notion that liberty comes at a price... The time has come to put up or shut up.

Mon, 03/04/2013 - 17:32 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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Guess, what? The price is the REJECTION of state, not some stupid collectivist slogan worship.

The time has come? Well, feel free to follow.

Mon, 03/04/2013 - 22:03 | Link to Comment Lordflin
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I understand... Perhaps I was misunderstood... I am sick of hearing people sound afraid... We don't face giants, just men... Many of whom would be utterly gutless were they not surrounded by troves of body guards... What collectivist's slogans you are talking about are anyone's guess.

There is a fellow... A pastor by all accounts, by the name of Lindsey Williams... makes his living convincing people that there is some master group of elites, his term, that is in total control. Nonsense...! Sadly, we live in an age when psychopaths and sociopaths have crawled out from under the rocks and into plain view... Not the first time... And they will take what they can take until they are stopped. There is no negotiating with such people, and if we lay down in submission we have ourselves to blame.

I was born a free man, and I intend to die the same. That is what I ment... the time has come to put it all on the line or lose everything that is dear.

And if you believe yourself to be out in the van, sir, leading the charge then God bless you. I have been in the fight for the past twenty years... But always within the system. The day comes when the system, for example, says to me turn in your rifle, and I don't, or turn in your gold, and I don't, or stop producing your own food, and I refuse to stop, I have crossed over the line... At that point there is no going back. I have a family. I have material wealth. I have a great deal to lose and people who depend on the decisions I make...

But I have reached the line past which I will no longer yield. I hope that has made my position clear to you.

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 02:46 | Link to Comment Freddie
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I always hear tough talk here on ZH but I bet 90% of the people posting still watch TV and Hollywood's shit and anable The Matrix and these criminals.  A lot of baby boomers and seniors are drooling idiots who love TV and walter cronkite and all the media 24x7 brainwashing.  Youngsters love it too.   The oldsters drooling over Tv and movies will get reality soon with ObamaCare.

If you watch TV, pay cable or sat TV, newspapers, magazines or Hollywood's shit then you are just blowing smoke and you support all of it.

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 01:30 | Link to Comment Ignatius
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Not too long ago in regard to guns Max Keiser made the snarky comment to Alex Jones that "if you own guns to fight tyranny then you'd have already used them."

Very clever, Max, very clever.  But completely wrong.

One doesn't know when exactly the line is crossed.  People can take a lot, but that don't mean they'll take it forever.

 

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 04:35 | Link to Comment AnAnonymous
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Absolutely.

As 'americans' do not use their guns to face a tyrant in their society, one can affirm there is no tyranny in their 'american' nations.

As to the line being crossed, funny...

Mon, 03/04/2013 - 22:48 | Link to Comment TSA gropee
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Bravo LF. Well said and I'd have given more than a +1 if I could have. Athough, I disagree with you on the elites statement. To think that much of recent history has not been orchestrated to some, if not to great a extent by a relative few in my humble opinion, is naive at best...

Mon, 03/04/2013 - 23:23 | Link to Comment Lordflin
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I absolutely concur there is manipulation... I just don't believe the manipulators are a special class of humans... other than perhaps lacking a conscience... And while there is no question there are people with power that are impacting the world... or even groups of such people.... Trilaterialists, illuminati, CFR, what have you... I do not believe these people have any clearer idea of the fate of mankind than the rest of us... discounting sheep, that is... even if they give themselves such credit. Alexander the Great marched half way around the world conquering everything in his path before being struckndown by a mosquito...

At the second battle of the wilderness U.S. Grant, in a fit of exasperation, said to his generals 'It is time you men stop thinking about what the enemy is going to do to us, and start thinkingnabout what we are going to do to them.'

There are men in this world with power, but they are just men... my humble opinion... Btw, thank you for your kind words.

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 00:44 | Link to Comment Race Car Driver
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> I just don't believe the manipulators are a special class of humans...

 

Me neither - they're reptilian of course.

They eat bugs.

And poor children.

Poor children is their favorite... and American poor children are nice and fat and juicy and stupid. The lizards love them like that - so they make them like that. 

We are being manipulated by a race of farmer lizards.

Mon, 03/04/2013 - 16:06 | Link to Comment blindman
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Quantum Mechanics meets
Conspiracy Theory by miles mathis
.
"First published February 19, 2013
I normally try to keep my physics, art, and politics papers separate, but in this case that isn't possible.
The mainstream itself has made the link between modern physics and conspiracy theory, and I can only
respond. Anyone who has followed quantum mechanics over the decades knows that things have
always been very strange, but they just got stranger. We have seen plenty of evidence of that in the past
year, what with the Higgs Boson Hoax and the Milner Prizes and Hawking's Brave New World. But
the strangeness continues to crescendo. Yesterday, a story hit the mainstream about a physics class at
Columbia University in New York City that seems to have jumped the rails (or the shark). To get an
undergraduate degree in any science at Columbia, you have to take a course called Frontiers of Science,
which includes a section on quantum mechanics. For some reason that is not at first clear, the
instructor decided to open this section on QM with a skit. We are being told he produced this skit to
knock the audience out of its groove, so that he could impress upon them the idea that QM was totally
new and unfamiliar.
Strip to your raw, erase all the garbage from your brain and start over again. Nothing you have learned in your life
up until now has in any way helped to prepare you for this, because everything you do in your everyday life is
totally opposite to what you are going to learn in quantum mechanics.
As we know, that is just the standard line of modern physics. This instructor isn't being novel at all in
putting it that way. However, given the rest of his skit, it encourages us to look more closely at that
now-familiar spiel, to see what is really being sold here.
Before we do that, let me gloss what happened for you. As you see, we have a film in the background,
paused on a single image to start. In that image, we have the words “quantum mechanics” over a
gigantic smiling skull. The instructor comes out and strips down to his underwear, then puts on a black
hoodie and black pants. Then two ninjas in black walk out carrying little stuffed sheep and samurais.
They put the sheep on the two stools, blindfold the sheep, then stab one of the sheep in the back and
throw it into the audience. While that happens, the film starts up and plays. In it we see scenes from
911, with the buildings falling. We also see Bin Laden, Hitler, Stalin, Manson, Mussolini, and various
bombs dropping and exploding. The music playing during all this is the rap “Drop it like it's Hot,” by
Lil Wayne.
All this is clearly propaganda and mind control—the only question being “propaganda in the service of
what?” Is this instructor trying to give his audience of college students the clue that they are sheep,
blindly following some hidden agenda? Or is he giving them that clue but then immediately
undercutting it, replacing one blindfold with another? I will tell you what I think is going on here, but
of course you are free to come to your own conclusions." ...m.m.

Mon, 03/04/2013 - 17:12 | Link to Comment thisandthat
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http://milesmathis.com/qmsheep.pdf

To quote:

“Erase all the garbage from your brain and start over.” That is the definition of brainwashing, taken straight from the dictionary.

Mon, 03/04/2013 - 16:02 | Link to Comment blindman
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it is a clown colony

Mon, 03/04/2013 - 15:56 | Link to Comment tony bonn
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amerika is a nazi state whose wall street and academic elitists gave us hitler, stalin, ww2, 9/11, and a host of other terroristic activities....the usa is just like ussr, china and nazi germany because they all share the same wall streets totalitarian dictators....the rockefeller axis of evil and its right hand control agency - the bush crime syndicate - overlord of the cia.

9/11 is a gigantic hoax which keeps on giving.

Mon, 03/04/2013 - 15:57 | Link to Comment cougar_w
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That doesn't actually help. Just so you know.

Mon, 03/04/2013 - 17:33 | Link to Comment All Risk No Reward
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"Real education must ultimately be limited to men who insist on knowing. The rest is mere sheep-herding."
- Ezra Pound

Does this data and logic help?  Remember, the social engineers depend on people to rely on their comforable authoritative claims so that they do not actually spend the time to observe relevant reality and apply adequate logic (removing contradictions and fallacies like "appeal to authority") and reach a conclusion based on evidence, not someone else's well financed "opinion."

Debt Money Tyranny

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/4768883/debtmoneytyranny-6-1-pdf-60k?tr=77

Weapons of Mass Debt

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/3324744/wmdebt-graph-3-79k

What a Gracity Driven Demolition Looks Like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiHeCjZlkr8&list=UUxvGFyCUkbMk4pB0C-AUJw...

NIST Admits Freefall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDvNS9iMjzA&list=UUxvGFyCUkbMk4pB0C-AUJw...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXTlaqXsm4k&list=UUxvGFyCUkbMk4pB0C-AUJw...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3mudruFzNw&list=UUxvGFyCUkbMk4pB0C-AUJw...

Downward Acceleration of North Tower

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjSd9wB55zk

Acceleration + Serendipity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJf7pWVyvIw&list=UUxvGFyCUkbMk4pB0C-AUJw...

Research the links and try to debunk any of the absolute, irrefutable facts and logic present therein.

I didn't post supposition or possibilities, I posted absolute, beyond any and all doubt fact!

But my effort is wasted if the reader doesn't actually do the research and then share it with others.  This is smoking gun proof beyond any and all doubt.

Mon, 03/04/2013 - 19:14 | Link to Comment cougar_w
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"I didn't post supposition or possibilities, I posted absolute, beyond any and all doubt fact! This is smoking gun proof beyond any and all doubt."

That's okay, I'll continue to think for myself if you don't mind.

Mon, 03/04/2013 - 20:52 | Link to Comment All Risk No Reward
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Hi Cougar, I didin't tell you not to think for yourself.

In fact, do think for yourself.  Please.

But you can't think upon something to which you've never been exposed.

I've made a claim of fact - so think for yourself as you review my claim and then share your thoughts.  If they aren't facts, then you, the critical thinker, should review it and point out my error.

Or are you just making the claim of "thinking for yourself" in order to avoid actually looking at the factual data?

The social engineers rely on people self selecting their information based upon their comfort level.  People are uncomfortable realizing that their monetary system is a fraud and their government lies about 911 sized events, so they self select by not actually looking into those issues.

That isn't "thinking for yourself," that's self deception.

 

Tue, 03/05/2013 - 00:36 | Link to Comment vato poco
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Uh, actually, you *did* tell Cougar not to think for himself, just not in those words. Anyone who EVER uses phrases like "I didn't [say] supposition or possibilities" or "I [said] absolute, beyond any and all doubt FACT!!" or "The science is *settled*, man!! We will refuse to hear any more insolent/troublesome questions, and all dissenters will be silenced!" is not making an argument, he's spouting dogma. Cant. Propaganda.

I'm with Cougar here: I'll pass on your dogma, thanks, and try my best to think for myself.

Although you seem not to realize it, there's a major difference between our schools of thought. I'm willing to admit I might be wrong. You, the guy who bellows, "Ever'thang I say is absolute FACT!"........don't seem much like the kind of guy who'll admit he was/could be wrong. Ever. IOW, a rigid idelogue. A control freak. No different from Obama or or Bernanke or Blankfein, when it comes down to it. Or, to use Zerohedge-ese, a "sheeple". Think on it some.

Wed, 03/06/2013 - 04:48 | Link to Comment All Risk No Reward
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Your perception is wrong.

I said what I posted was fact.

I didn't tell you to trust me.  You ASSUMED that.

Stop ASSUMING.

You are obsessed with personality and not the data - which leaves you open to manipulation based upon emotion separate from actual data.

I made a claim - that what I posted was fact.  If you think for yourself, then review the data and give your independent view of the evidence and logically support it.

The two people that claimed something I never claimed didn't even comment on the content of the post.

One way the system controls and manipulates people is they put forth, shall we say, magnetic personalities to real in those who focus on personality instead of data.

“In the technotronic society the trend would seem to be towards the aggregation of the individual support of millions of uncoordinated citizens, easily within the reach of magnetic and attractive personalities exploiting the latest communications techniques to manipulate emotions and control reason.”
? Zbigniew Brzezinski, Between Two Ages: America's Role in the Technetronic Era

Ok, so I'm not a magnetic personality. ;-)

Fine - my bad.

But you are self censoring yourself from key data and my lack of magnetic personality can't account for the entirety of your self censoring.

Independently review the data I posted and have confidence in you independent opinion - but be prepared to back it up logically as I am prepared to back up my my viiew.

It is a cop out ad hominem to attack the messenger and completely ignore the message, though.

That's basic stuff and it only hurts you in the long run because you just might miss out on something that is actually 100% accurate based on the laws of physics, 5th grade and exponential math, the laws of the land and the structure of our monetary system.

Mon, 03/04/2013 - 15:53 | Link to Comment cougar_w
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I was just now going to post something negative about the government, but upon reconsideration I changed my mind.

They're doing such a fine job. Really.

Mon, 03/04/2013 - 17:29 | Link to Comment All Risk No Reward
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They are doing a splendid job.  Seriously.  It is simply that the vast majority fo people have no clue what they are actually trying to achieve.

1. Politicians are financed into power by a group of people with the most money to finance their campaigns and adjust the "media" to their ends.

2. Politicians aren't about to bite the hand that feeds it, which is precisely the reason they are chosen to represent the Big Finance Capital powers in government.

So what in the world are the government operatives who represent the Big Finance Capital powers doing?

Why not let some insiders types tell us what they are doing...

“In the technotronic society the trend would seem to be towards the aggregation of the individual support of millions of uncoordinated citizens, easily within the reach of magnetic and attractive personalities exploiting the latest communications techniques to manipulate emotions and control reason.”
? Zbigniew Brzezinski, Between Two Ages: America's Role in the Technetronic Era

Magnetic personalities are used to manipulate and control the population...  obviously to do or allow things that aren't in their self interest.  That's a 10 out of 10 for effiiency there.

“We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost 40 years......It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supernational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries.”
? David Rockefeller

Elminating the power of the common person and enshrining banksters and dElites that aren't subject to sovereign law...  That's a 10 out of 10.

Setting up world government - that depends on the time frame.  I'd give them an 8 out of 10 this one - they've even come out and said our military reports to the United Nations Big Finance Capital supernational United Nations corporate government front

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R9Go4ETtaQ

The World Trade Organnization Big Finance Capital corporate front and all the other corporate fronts that promote world control via Big Finance Capital operatives all work to achieve this ultimate goal.

“It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning. The one aim of these financiers is world control by the creation of inextinguishable debt.”
- Henry Ford

So these criminals want to destroy national sovereignty and they are energizing their efforts via a fraudulent debt based monetary system that systematically enriches the international banking cartel members while saturating everyone else with unpayable debt.  This process is graphically portrayed in the following PDF:

Debt Money Tyranny

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/4768883/debtmoneytyranny-6-1-pdf-60k?tr=77

As for the ongoing bust - that is the result of a purposeful and criminal debt bubble blowing operation by the Federal Reserve:

http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/3324744/wmdebt-graph-3-79k

Big Finance Capital is banking on people being so ignorant that they are blaiming powerless minorities as a scapegoat for Big Finance Capital's criminal operations:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-02-28/great-american-housing-rebound

That only works if people are establishment gobemouches and can't think for themselves.

That's where the Trivium critical thinking methodology comes into play...

Search "Trivium Unplugged Mom" or "Gene Odening Podcasts" to uncover the hidden tools of nantural learning and education as opposed to schooling, domestication and conditioning required to make your mind a willing slave to the criminal Big Finance Capital controlled establishment that wants to destroy individuality and embrace "combination" of peoples so long as Big Finance Capital is the authoritarian ruler of said "combination" of peoples.

Search John Taylor Gatto for more information on how these criminals co-opted the education system and turned it into a corporate servant making system.

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