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CIA and FBI Counter-Terrorism Officials: Cheney Lied About 9/11 Hijacker
Preface: Obama is worse.
Everyone knew that Iraq did not possess weapons of mass destruction (update here).
Dick Cheney admits that he lied about 9/11.
MSNBC recently noted that these two facts are intertwined:
Mark Rossini, was then an FBI counter-terrorism agent detailed to the CIA. He was assigned the task of evaluating a Czech intelligence report that Mohammed Atta, the lead 9/11 hijacker, had met with an Iraqi intelligence agent in Prague before the attack on the World Trade Towers.
Cheney repeatedly invoked the report as evidence of Iraqi involvement in 9/11. “It’s been pretty well confirmed that he [Atta] did go to Prague and he did meet with a senior official of the Iraqi intelligence service in Czechoslovakia last April,” Cheney said on Meet the Press on Dec. 9, 2001.
But the evidence used to support the claim–a supposed photograph of Atta in Prague the day of the alleged meeting—had already been debunked by Rossini. He analyzed the photo and immediately saw it was bogus: the picture of the Czech “Atta” looked nothing like the real terrorist. It was a conclusion he relayed up the chain, assuming he had put the matter to rest.
Then he heard Cheney endorsing the discredited report on national television. “I remember looking at the TV screen and saying, ‘What did I just hear?’ And I–first time in my life, I actually threw something at the television because I couldn’t believe what I just heard,” Rossini says.
Rossini gave MSNBC an example in an interview for the documentary Hubris:
Mohammed Atta was a sleight guy … barely 5’5 or 5’6, and skinny. The guy in the photograph was muscular, thick, and had a neck like the size of two of my necks. And I thought, “that’s not Mohammed Atta in the photograph!” But I sent it to the lab anyway, knowing that would put it to rest.
McClatchy confirmed in 2009:
Former senior U.S. intelligence official familiar with the interrogation issue said that Cheney and former Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld demanded that the interrogators find evidence of al Qaida-Iraq collaboration…
For most of 2002 and into 2003, Cheney and Rumsfeld, especially, were also demanding proof of the links between al Qaida and Iraq that (former Iraqi exile leader Ahmed) Chalabi and others had told them were there.”
It was during this period that CIA interrogators waterboarded two alleged top al Qaida detainees repeatedly — Abu Zubaydah at least 83 times in August 2002 and Khalid Sheik Muhammed 183 times in March 2003 — according to a newly released Justice Department document…
When people kept coming up empty, they were told by Cheney’s and Rumsfeld’s people to push harder,” he continued.”Cheney’s and Rumsfeld’s people were told repeatedly, by CIA . . . and by others, that there wasn’t any reliable intelligence that pointed to operational ties between bin Laden and Saddam . . .
A former U.S. Army psychiatrist, Maj. Charles Burney, told Army investigators in 2006 that interrogators at the Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, detention facility were under “pressure” to produce evidence of ties between al Qaida and Iraq.
“While we were there a large part of the time we were focused on trying to establish a link between al Qaida and Iraq and we were not successful in establishing a link between al Qaida and Iraq,” Burney told staff of the Army Inspector General. “The more frustrated people got in not being able to establish that link . . . there was more and more pressure to resort to measures that might produce more immediate results.”
“I think it’s obvious that the administration was scrambling then to try to find a connection, a link (between al Qaida and Iraq),” [Senator] Levin said in a conference call with reporters. “They made out links where they didn’t exist.”
Levin recalled Cheney’s assertions that a senior Iraqi intelligence officer had met Mohammad Atta, the leader of the 9/11 hijackers, in the Czech Republic capital of Prague just months before the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.
The FBI and CIA found that no such meeting occurred.
Postscript: Indeed the entire torture program was implemented in an attempt to justify the Iraq war. And the 9/11 Commission was set up with false torture testimony. More background on the Iraq war.
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Sure they did.
I hear ya, man...
"Ooops, I killed a million of your people and destroyed your country, how foolish of me."
I am pretty sure it was only about 80,000. Pretty humorous how people would just like to forget about it. It is a blunder that should be in the children's texts books and studied and discussed for at least the next 100 years - a war based on false pretenses. Really there should be a monument erected in DC in Bushes honor - a monument to ignorance and pride. Mission accomplished. Seriously I would ask that they submit the matter to the Hague for W, Dick and Rummy to be tried as war criminals. I doubt there could be a conviction but it needs to be outed.
80,000 is the 'feel good' number. Ironic, no?
The Lancet peer reviewed study:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancet_surveys_of_Iraq_War_casualties
and here:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/10/AR200610...
It's now 7 years since the '06 study. Add to that the estimated 500,000 children who died during the sanction period of the 90s. Watch a rabid animal explain it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbIX1CP9qr4
Children keep borning in Iraq with severe malformations due to exposure to radiation from secret Enriched Uranium Weapons used in Iraq.
We can't continue this way.
Are you sure that you are not Rachael Maddow ("Mad cow"). Your posts are looney and the broken English is irritating.
I beg you pardon. English isn't my mother tongue.
Just so people do not forget-
There were reports that Atta was alive after the attack. His father claimed he was still alive. If you lend credence to the "official" story spawned by a bunch of sociopaths, then you should also weigh the odds of this:
Atta's father, Mohamed el-Amir Awad el-Sayed Atta, a retired lawyer in Egypt vehemently rejected allegations his son was involved in the September 11 attacks and instead accuses Mossad and the U.S. government of having a hand in framing his son.[31] Atta Sr. vehemently rejected media reports his son was drinking wildly, and instead described his son as a quiet boy uninvolved in politics, shy and devoted to studying architecture.[105] The elder Mr. Atta claimed to have spoken with Mohamed by phone two days after the air crashes of the September 11, although there is no evidence to support Mr. Atta's claim. He held interviews with the German news magazine Bild am Sonntag in late 2002 claiming his son is alive and in hiding in fear for his life, and claimed American Christians were responsible for the September 11 attacks.[106] However in 2005, in another interview, Atta Sr. has stated "My son is gone. He is now with God. The Mossad killed him."[107]
(Wikipedia)
I hope that we all understand that, evil as Cheney is, he is only one of thousands just like him in positions of extreme power on the planet. Thousands of evil, powerful people controlling hundreds of billions, or trillions of assets and people. All of this defended by the best security networks money can buy. They are sealed off.
Well, if enough people stand up they will fold. No matter what weapons they have. The more they use them on their own people the more will turn against them. The choice about dying on your feet or living on your knees is quickly approaching. Live free or die isn't just a bumper sticker.
While the whole world (me included) lives in absolute fear of this "intelligence service" we have erected...the whole world also knows that this entire conflict was based on a massive intelligence failure. Would I like to see the war machine turned off? Yep. Is it going to happen? Only this site seems to giving (the meekest) of protests...so no "it" won't. Therefore is any man capable...even George Washington himself... of discerning truth in this matter? I mean "he started it" kinda begs the question "was the fight going to happen anyways?" obviously if this were a set up "designed to create an emotional response" (cough cough Cyprus cough cough) I would want to take writing "my version of events" carefully. There is no "court of law" in the History profession. Only the pursuit of truth and the most accurate rendering there of. Obviously the Simple Truth that "historians are history" is always there of course.
Here's my latest opinion. We're not america! By name yes, but on paper, we're front men for the bank of England (approximating geographically). Hmmm...... Why has our currency never been valued more than the Pound? Why does all the gold seem to be held in London, not within the borders of the world's supposed superpower. I mean the real gold, not the tungsten bars the Fed is holding. Hit men, that's what our sons have been. It's all been fake since the Federal Reseve Act, approx..... Took your gold, revalued it, then moved it offshore. JFK knew about it, head is a canoe now. If you speak, don't do it too loudly, someone may be listening. If you require a new boogey man every few years to redirect your fucking attention, they'll find one for you. AGAIN, the towers didn't fall they fucking melted. Let your mind not decieve your eyes, go back and look at the images again. They did it right in front of your face and you proclaimed, let's roll on some sandy asss cave dwellers making ied's out of det cord and some common house chemicals. sorry, I've never seen one of those bombs melt a building with a steel core.
goBackToSleep
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CTMTyDcm2A
"Hello, Dick?"
"Saddam?"
"It' s been a while. How's the family?"
"OK, I guess. Daughter went off the rails."
"So I hear. One of mine, too. I killed her. Say, about that no-fly zone..."
"Sorry, it stays in effect"
"Well, I have these CWs with USA markings and Trace on them. Stuff's so good, I had lots left over. Some nuke stuff, too. Same trace back to you. The UN might not like this, or the press."
"Look, budd, if you try anything, I'll have my protege invade your ass. He's from Texas, sort of."
(Click.)
I think the Bush derangement syndrome has mutated into Cheney derangement syndrome, Bush is getting loved by the Commie alien left more and more, Cheney plays the "bad guy" well I think he enjoys it like the Kim du NORK but in reality Cheney was a substitute who never got to play and can't be blamed for anything Bush did.
Iraq, Afghanistan Obama, its all Bush
Who cares about Dick Cheney? Americans don't even care that we are still fighting our longest and most costly war in a country that we can't locate on a map. George thinks that maybe some Americans will get interested in what a former VP said 12 years ago?
Why keep bringing this up? You sound like my friend's teenage daughter, after she commited a nearly unforgiveable act (stealing ATM card cash and going on spending spree with her friends). After 5 min of a lecture, trying to explain to her why this was a bad thing to do, "Are we going to talk about this all day?"
Yes, never forget. For the same reason the Jewish people cared about the Nazi war criminals and still are. ADL is in place just so that madness does not recur. Forget it? Wow...you people are scary.
So, let me fill you in. Bush and Cheney (admittedly not a "politician") et al made vast sums of money off the blood of a million dead and injured. Bankrupted a country, their own, as a c onsequence of the delusional scheme to enrich their business partners at US taxpayers expense.
As this country falls into the hands of its creditors, you will see these 2 men portrayed on the end of a rope because the blame game is coming. Follow the money.
No, you're scary. The ADL/AIPAC/PNAC and numerous other zionist groups must keep past lies and deception as their current to date mission. Not to prevent "it" from happening again but to keep the truth suppressd and non-jews filled with guilt. The joos get the use of anti-semitism at every convenient moment to stifle truths about what really happened.
We all got a zionist education. Not one word about USS Liberty while I went to school.
Cheney is the mouthpiece for joos and your joobux.
Aw jeez, not this shit again. Look up the Balfour Declaration and take it from there. The 9/11 of its day.
If you don't care about truth and justice, then you end up with lies and crimes
Now that you have your "truth", pray tell what are you going to do with it?
not a fucking thing! Except suck on some radiation.
goBackToSleep bitchez!
You must have voted for Bush/Cheney, and now you feel foolish, eh?
The title of the post is misleading since it implies a Truther story - GW's obsession. Everyone knows Cheney lied about 911 and Iraq - it's old news. Bush resorted to absurd lengths to get into Iraq but I can't see an intricate, time-consuming, detailed strategy involving thousands of participants with an overwhelming possiblity of discovery (911) when the "we have authorization from the UN" and WMD reasons were plenty enough to get things moving.
http://usahitman.com/911-scam/
Evidence (factors) is contradictory to the reports issued (almost maniac-like) immediately following event. The ability to review the event and information on the internet by millions of people with curious minds is blowing the scum off the facade.
But whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy? you ask and hysterically so.
An agenda to put into place power within law enforcement and national security, newly created agencies which carry their torch, which will work toward undermining the constitution of the united states legally, a silent coupe, hiding behind fighting terrorism and now climate change, advanced by global cartels who hope to monopolize and centralize every industry in existence so they will never have to face a competitive situation and lose to the better man, I suppose. It's a weak leader's protocol to ensuring he will never face defeat. Passively through propaganda on all major media outlets.
scum - anyone who would support a criminal monster like cheney deserves to be with him in hell
i hope someday the 4,500 good guys and their families are avenged for their murder at the hands of the cheney gang
You tip your hand using the word "truther" which as those of us who are tuned-in know, is the mother-fuckers of the world's way of marginalizing those who seek the facts, rather than the fairy tale. I'd suggest that you stick your head in an oven, but it might be more fun to see you stick your head up your ass and rotate, for there lies the substance you are made of.
Bottom line: if you aren't seeking the truth about the world we live in, go somewhere else.
911 was the death
of sanity and reason..
911 was the death of Free America...the Shadow Government have been in charge ever since
C.O.G. Continuity of Government
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aIVko8qFoE
Why is this truther crap posted pseudonymously under "George Washington"...
Please see my response to "Tango" as these comments apply equally to you as well.
Cheney is a fucking psychopath, evil and without conscience. No wonder his daughter loves pussy and not Dick.
Chances are he molested her.
And so is our corporate culture a system of psychopathy -- their bottom line, nothing else matters.
The military-industrial-security complex is the biggest benneficiary of 9/11.
Sibel Edmunds Explains Who's at the Top of the Pyramid:
http://www.corbettreport.com/sibel-edmonds-explains-whos-at-the-top-of-t...
And so is our corporate culture a system of psychopathy -- their bottom line, nothing else matters.
The same goes for rulers: ALL Rulers. What matters is power and watching serfs obey.
Right. I'm talking about those we don't see.
GW, you might want to read the
MAY 25, 1994UNITED STATES CHEMICAL AND BIOLOGICAL WARFARE -RELATED DUAL-USE EXPORTS TO IRAQ AND THEIR POSSIBLE IMPACT ON THE HEALTH CONSEQUENCES OF THE PERSIAN GULF WAR
http://www.archive.org/stream/unitedstatesdual00unit/unitedstatesdual00u...
Remember all those Iranians and Kurds that were killed via biological weapons... this report establishes that the USA supplied the weapons, delivery system and personnel to carry out those actions.
After Iraq 2 all the government documents from Saddam were sent to the Wilson Institute for archive, actual photo copies of these documents are on line.
This is a link to one part of this raw information, listed via a time line.
http://www.wilsoncenter.org/sites/default/files/Iran-IraqWar_Part2.pdf
Of course the US gov did this and Saddam Hussein was a CIA asset for years. We supported him in the Iraq/Iran war. The US even green-lighted his invasion of Kuwait whom he was retaliating against for horizontally drilling into Iraqi oilfields. I'm sure he was very surprised when the 1st Gulf war invasion started. I'm not saying he was a great leader, just that the US used him then disposed of him, as we've done with scores of other notable persons such as Osama bin Laden.
frankly, i'm tired of hearing about 9-11. nothing can/will be done about it now, a dozen years after the fact. just like kennedy.
where we are now is what's of most importance.
we have a system to crash and lives to get on with that do not involve banks or bankers or politicians or this dumb-ass currency.
bonus: we get to send the currency peddlers home or to prison or to the guillotine. their choice, but don't wait for them to choose.
And then your crack buzz wore off
I actually agree with you. I do not think that you (I know that I don't) don't believe that it's not important, that TPTB are going to prevent any such revelations. Come on folks, give this person a break. Do you really think that you're going to lawfully expose those that were put in power by TPTB in TPTB's courts? When was the last time that anyone of any significance who did really bad shit was put on trial before that person's people and courts? TPTB terminates anyone who even gets close to lighting the candle.
We'll spend decades getting it all set up and meanwhile TPTB are making more of these people, which, will take decades to figure out...
Stop whacking at the branches and start hitting the roots! This isn't the tree of liberty that needs to be "refreshed," it's the tree of Ponzi and it needs to be killed.
It was the events of 9\11 and the response to them that started the bad Karma cycle which manifests in the ongoing misallocation of capital and incentives. Like in Vietnam, the MI Complex sees the headlight of the oncoming train and sells it to the sheeple as the light at the end of the tunnel. The outright confiscation of savings is just another tool in the box for the wealth consolidater class.
To cover a lie, extort a 'confession'.
This is as old as history.
"This is as old as history."
Ha! It's the history that the torturers have written! </sarc>
First big writing effort?
Surprise, surprise, surprise it is a wacky world we live in.
People lie to advance their objectives, we knew this years ago.
Get to work on Obama.
The next generation should know how he lied too.
So, instead of collecting enough evidence for trial we should be working on another trial?
Logic problem.
I "get" what you're saying, but 9/11 was a HUGE Edward Bernays moment. If you can gut that piece of propaganda then it'll all go like a lit fuse (and you'd have your pretty little Obama in a far quicker amount of time than trying to start from day 1,000).
Perfect example of why I give all this next to zero chances of working out. Fucking Party Pussy shit.
This sounds like more truther crap in my opinion. The Czech intelligence denies that it told the CIA that Al-Ani was not in Prague at the time Mohammed Atta was .
It has been theorized the meeting was actually with the Crash Proof PassPort which had a bad feeling about this from the start, a bystander overhead it state.
CRASH PROOF PASSPORT
http://911research.wtc7.net/disinfo/deceptions/passport.html#ref2
According to ABC News and the Associated Press, the passport of hijacker Satam Al Suqami was found a few blocks from the WTC. 1 2 The Guardian was skeptical: "the idea that Atta's passport had escaped from that inferno unsinged [tests] the credulity of the staunchest supporter of the FBI's crackdown on terrorism." 3 Note the passport did not belong to Atta, as is commonly claimed.
Satam Al Suqami was supposedly on Flight 11, the plane that hit the North Tower. In that collision, the building's core absorbed almost the entire airplane, which hit the northeast wall nearly dead center.
What is even more fucked up is they found Dorner's wallet at the base of one of the towers, and it, too, was unsinged.
What is "truther"?
Does that mean truth that you would rather not hear.
You've made truth into a perjorative? Cool.