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The Importance of Owning Your Own Bullion

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Quite a few articles have been written about the importance of owning Gold and other precious metals as a means of maintaining one’s wealth in the face of rampant money printing by the world’s Central Banks.

 

Today I’m going to share some ideas on how to actually buy bullion.

 

As far as precious metals go, you need to:

 

  1. Own actual Bullion
  2. Store it yourself (not in a bank)

 

I do not recommend owning a paper gold-based ETF because frankly the custodial risk is high (that is, there’s no telling if the Gold is even there or who would get it if the ETF is liquidated).

 

In comparison, physical bullion, stored outside a bank, is literally money in hand. You know where it is and you can find out what it’s worth. Compare that to a Gold ETF in which you’re hoping that the bank actually has the Gold and that it could actually send it to you if you requested (fat chance).

 

In terms of actual gold coins, there are three coins that comprise the bulk of the bullion market. They are Kruggerands, Canadian Maple Leafs, and American Gold Eagles. I’ve been told to avoid Maple Leafs by both a trader and a bullion dealer as they can easily be scratched which damages the gold and reduces the coin’s value.

 

In terms of silver, the easiest way to get it is via pre-1965 coins (often termed “junk” silver). You can also get silver one-ounce rounds (coin-like medallions) and 10-ounce bars. Or you can buy Silver Eagles coins.

 

I cannot tell you which dealer to go with, but look for someone who’s been dealing for years (not a newbie).  You should always ask for references from the dealer (former clients you can talk to about their purchases/ experiences).

 

Some warning signs to avoid are dealers who try to store your bullion. Never, I repeat, never store your bullion with someone else. Always store it yourself. Also, be sure to talk to the dealer for some time and ask him or her numerous questions about the industry, the coins, etc. (feel free to test him or her on the information I’ve provided you with e.g. the three most liquid Gold coins, etc.). If they can answer everything you ask in a knowledgeable fashion, their references check out, and you verify everything they say with a 3rd party, you should be OK.

 

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Sun, 03/24/2013 - 19:01 | 3369925 andrewp111
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I bought some Canadian palladium coins, and they came sealed in little plastic pouches. I leave them in the pouches.

Sun, 03/24/2013 - 21:10 | 3370448 RafterManFMJ
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I bought some Canadian palladium coins, and they came sealed in little plastic pouches. I leave them in the pouches.

 

You do?! Not me! I take them all out, run them through my hands, pour them in musically clinking, shining rivulets upon my brow.

Mon, 03/25/2013 - 01:01 | 3371216 Vendetta
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Really, that's a great idea.  I wanted to find some pure silver bullion in pyramid shapes to put on my head but can't find the damn things anywhere... pyramid power is where its at .. yeah!

Sun, 03/24/2013 - 20:41 | 3369920 akak
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The same argument could also be leveled against pure silver bullion coins, and yet I have never heard nor read of anyone faulting them for being equally soft and prone to scratching.

Mon, 03/25/2013 - 03:30 | 3371334 stacking12321
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akak, you are usually smart.

gold is a softer metal than silver.

 

Mon, 03/25/2013 - 13:16 | 3372964 akak
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True enough, but pure silver is still VERY soft as metals go.

Sun, 03/24/2013 - 18:34 | 3369830 DoChenRollingBearing
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Probably every ZH member who opened this thread already HAS gold at home...  If not, they should!  It is the easiest and best way to preserve your wealth in the coming storms...

Mon, 03/25/2013 - 04:17 | 3371354 mt paul
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need a bigger boat

Sun, 03/24/2013 - 18:27 | 3369806 Scro
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Tulving

Provident

Texmetals

Ordered from all and I got what I ordered. Tulving is the slowest to ship but they are also the biggest on list.

Sun, 03/24/2013 - 19:46 | 3370058 ninja_
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Anyone have a view on Goldmart? They seem to have very competitive premiums but I never see them mentioned on ZH.

Sun, 03/24/2013 - 19:34 | 3369934 akak
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I've heard some bad things about Tulving as far as being VERY slow to ship, in addition to him frequently being uncommunicative and downright rude.  But I can't say I have ever read of anyone actually not receving their order, or having been cheated or swindled on an order with Tulving, either.

Sun, 03/24/2013 - 21:57 | 3370695 Gromit
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Yes - they had a little bit of trouble locating a deposit to the Tulving account.

Mr. T himself is a cool guy - just doesn't suffer fools gladly I would guess.

I picked up a recent purchase from his SoCal warehouse, good guy to do business with.

Sun, 03/24/2013 - 20:02 | 3370160 GrinandBearit
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100% agree based on my personal experience. 

Another one with very slow shipping time is Gainsville... even with a CC, they are way too slow shipping the product. 

Apmex is a little more pricey on some items, but probably has the best customer service out of all of them... never had a problem with them.

Sun, 03/24/2013 - 18:53 | 3369895 therover
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I can second Texas Precious Metals. Never had a problem with them. Reliable and fast service. 

Sun, 03/24/2013 - 18:25 | 3369801 NoWayJose
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When gold and silver jump higher there will be a rush to create fakes. Yoy will want to own bullion that cannot be challenged- rather than mystery bars.

Sun, 03/24/2013 - 22:34 | 3370823 GrinandBearit
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Pre-1965, 90% silver dimes and quarters are about as counterfiet-proof as you can get.  

Get em while you can though... the premiums on junk silver are going up and up.

Mon, 03/25/2013 - 07:55 | 3371532 CunnyFunt
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A good way to procure junk silver is to ask small shopkeepers. Often they save pre-'65 coins and will sell below spot. An added bonus is "no receipt".

Sun, 03/24/2013 - 19:30 | 3370018 GoldForCash
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There are already a great number of silver coated copper bars and rounds.
Pass's the magnet test, acid test, weight test but will fail a deep edge scratch, drill or mm measure. Mainly on bars.....eBay has all you can buy.
It made me dump all my bars and test the eagles. All good there. Damn thieves.....

Sun, 03/24/2013 - 18:09 | 3369760 OhBaldOne
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Two services that I highly recommend:

The first: USA Gold out of Denver: reliable, trustworthy, fast and you get what you buy - no substitutes of "sorry we don't have what you ordered and are sending you such and such."

Speak to the father or son, Kosares et fil.

The second: Kal Gronvall

Both like to sell the higher premuims of pre-1933 gold, but will do whatever you insist upon. I have bought both pre-1933 and bullion coins from the both and would recommend them highly.

Sun, 03/24/2013 - 18:10 | 3369758 fourchan
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10-4 good buddy

Sun, 03/24/2013 - 18:05 | 3369746 MassDecep
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Same can be said for silver

Mon, 03/25/2013 - 01:33 | 3371256 Dr Paul Krugman
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Pet rocks soon to be coming back in style.

Mon, 03/25/2013 - 02:43 | 3371312 Acidtest Dummy
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My guess, PK, is that you were slighty too old for them the last time pet rocks were fashionable, and that you missed out on the significant amount of intellectual stimulation one would have provided you. Yes, this time around you will be able to afford a pet rock that may well be your intellectual equal. :)

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Mon, 03/25/2013 - 05:07 | 3371377 Popo
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