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Submitted by williambanzai7 on 04/04/2013 14:00 -0400

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Thu, 04/04/2013 - 23:28 | 3410999 williambanzai7

Yes, another evil bogey monster for everyone to fear and battle.

Meanwhile, our military industrial complex is very happy to intimidate by showing off its fancy toys in the North Asia region.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 19:38 | 3410324 H E D G E H O G

4. end the "sequester" and give the pentagon all the fiat they want ! need moar carriers, jets, bombs, torpedoes, drones, bullets, mre's, generals, admirals, chiefs of staffs, need more young sheeple for fodder!!!!!

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 15:30 | 3409419 The Heart

And talk about hubris too:

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/302237/news/nation/chinese-expert-i...

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 21:46 | 3410677 kchrisc

Link translation: US is a paper tiger that is in hawk to everyone including their enemies. Might as well be shaking pom-poms instead of sabers. hujel

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 16:11 | 3409561 screw face

nice link dud http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/302237/news/nation/chinese-expert-i...

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 15:12 | 3409346 williambanzai7

I would like to take this opportunity to share my brief observations on the North Korean enigma. I make no pretense of being an expert. I am merely applying common sense.

Why is it, after all we have seen for the last 50 years, that the world cannot cut a deal to solve the Korean problem? We have seen all kinds of regimes fall violently and peacefully. What makes North Korea different?

I would wager that the people who really run North Korea have the same basic concern that all of these regressive totalitarian regimes have. They want to know that they and their families will be safe and secure in the new world following a regime change. I doubt they really believe all the Kim Jong cultism. This being the case, why is it that the world can't cut a deal to unite the Korean peninsula?

The answer is it does not want to. China would rather have an inbred step child as a neighbor rather than a united, economically viable and nuclear armed Korea as a neighbor. Japan abhors the idea of a united Korea as well for economic and strategic reasons. South Korea is the same kind of paralyzed basket case as Germany before reunification. They fear the unknown. As usual, the US is playing the unstable situation for its own strategic purposes.

The upshot is, North Korea is boxed in a corner. They wallow in their misery and the world is all to happy to starve them so the population is unable to attempt its own insurrection. That is the stability the world wants. A feeble and cute bad egg who behaves himself meeting with sports celebrities and tech entrepreneurs. Just stay behind the DMZ please.

North Korea is a cornered nuclear armed animal and cornered animals are dangerous.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 21:42 | 3410666 kchrisc

The answer to your inquiry is a simple one: because it has and is not in their, the pols', crats' and banksters', best interest to do so. And God help us if they determine that war is in their best interests.

Ditto on Cuba, just 90 sunny miles away.

Next time keep this in mind and you will not be as confused: it is ALWAYS about money and power. Always. Even Iraq was about money and power VIA oil.

hujel

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 22:00 | 3410711 Clowns on Acid

Yo Dick feckin' Tracy - Cuba never did have nukes.

Always about money and power ? A recent observation by yourself? Man has been trying to deal with the "money and power" aspect of individuals as well as civilizations since "eating meat from bone".

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 19:27 | 3410293 Quantum Nucleonics

On point, with an exception. It's not the unknown that SK fears. South Korea is a frugal, practical society. They saw what West Germany spent uniting with the East, how long it took, and the social upheaval. North Korea's GDP per capita is several orders of magnitude below East Germany when the Wall collapsed. East German's had some idea of life in the West. Their economy sucked, but they were not eating dirt (literally, as a means of handling the pain of starving to death.) South Korea is terrified of the financial cost of uniting with NK - even if not a shot was fired in the process.

Also, China needs the NK regime as a jail keeper for the population. If the regime collapses, there will be a flood of refugees into China.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 23:04 | 3410753 williambanzai7

I've thought about that.

One problem is there is a huge military infrastructure in South Korea that depends upon a continuous conflict. The media always points at the North Korean military. What about the south? They don't have influence in the matter or culpability in the constant state of hostility?

If one looks at how quickly Myanmar is turning, you have to ask why not North Korea. Myanmar makes North Korea look like an advanced civilization. The process of converting farmers to factory widgets is very familiar all over Asia.

If the Koreans suddenly have all that cheap labor in the North at their domestic disposal, what does that do to China's precarious cheap labor advantage? Poof! How about factories in China run by Koreans? Poof!

A unified Korea would be a very scary economic adversary for China, let alone Japan. I suspect Korea would turn into a boom town and the paralysis is being caused by the entrenched who fear change as well as the usual jousting for a cut of the pie.

The business about North Koreans crossing the border into China is another interesting topic. I wonder what would happen if Korea was unified. Would everyone look to cross the border to be treated like third class vermin and whores in China or would they try to get a piece of their own new Korean action?

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 19:11 | 3410227 YHC-FTSE

That's a very astute observation. Particularly the fears of a united Korea as an economic rival to both Japan and China. Believe it or not, I have heard that same sentiment on several occasions from Japanese and S.Korean friends for many years. The deliberate covert support of the NK regime to prevent the reunification of the peninsula is a well known conspiracy theory to the South Korean intelligentsia.

As for your cornered nuclear animal analogy, it is a sentiment that I share with less concern than many here. I think the new NK regime's rhetoric is for internal consumption, no different than the same fear mongering and hate we see and hear from our own msm. Like senator McCain talking about incinerating millions of people by dropping nukes on Iran during his presidential campaign, Hilary Clinton doing the same, Madeline Albright about Iraqi children. We are certainly not short of psychotics in power who voice opinions that would get an ordinary person a oneway ticket to a padded cell. The only difference between their nutjobs and ours is that they are completely incapable of carrying out such vile threats and we are able to incinerate the planet several times over, with stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons to garnish. Which one is more abhorrent? The mad kid that blusters infantile bluffs, or the old maniacs in the West with the real WMDs and delivery systems.

You show laudable compassion for ordinary people on both sides of the fence and I dare say it's a feeling we should all share. I don't know what is best for Korea, I think that is something for the Koreans to decide for themselves, but their steady resolve in gradual change, to try to undo decades of ideological differences by sharing their common culture and enterprise, as demonstrated by the E/W German reunification, is a step in the right direction that started with the SK's "Sunshine Policy" in 1998. One that was sadly scuppered a few years later by GW Bush and his axis of evil speech.

The Koreans have a saying, "In a decade even the rivers and mountains change". They have a long term pragmatic view that is sometimes frustrating to Western observers. Perhaps the best way to deal with a dangerous animal is to shoot it, then again perhaps the best way to deal with people is to treat them as you yourself would want to be treated, with respect and kindness to encourage change from their ideology. Sadly there's very little evidence of the latter in the world. And no, I'm under no illusions about the vileness of the Starlinist regime in NK and how they treat their own people.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 18:45 | 3410168 Aquarius

Entropy is interesting as it marks that precise point when the cycle changes; in fact, it could be said to be Kali, the God of Destruction and re-Birth,

and it appears to be triggered by the "Status Quo", you know, that state of being that all them thar' bankers, economists (sic) and politicians dream of so that they can continue to recursively scam the whole system and impose their ignorance on we, the unwashed, for their greater enjoyment, lust and profit.

Will we never learn from the ancients and accept and or come to the realization that the Gods of times ancient, still rule supreme today, even if we think that it's smart to get a PhD that intentionally ignores their presence, a priori?

So, "Critical Mass" marks the moment of change; it is the trigger of "Entropy" which destroys the milieu of the norm and creates or welcomes Chaos to change the scene of the Shakespearean play of As You Like It.

Why? Well, the Gods get bored is the answer, and so do I. In fact, both are facts.

we need to morph "faith and superstition" into Science, after science has been returned to its fundamental objectivity, that is. You know, as it was ~3,000 years ago, more or less!

The only important War of any note is between "Us and Them" and that's easily fixed.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 16:23 | 3409605 screw face

I would speculate on the fact of space based weapons have yet to come in play, nonnuclear style, but yet are quite devastating in there effect!

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 04:30 | 3411458 ebear

Yeah, bust a few crop circles across some North Korean farm land and watch the effect of that!

Sat, 04/06/2013 - 01:11 | 3415535 screw face

Dud + 1

that was rich, no pun intended

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 15:34 | 3409434 The Heart

We have always call that; the one legged, half blind chicken with a switch-blade in its hand making threats at twenty guys pointing fully loaded auto 12 gauges at it's head. Dangerous indeed.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 15:41 | 3409474 williambanzai7

The problem is the Chicken has a bomb wired to its tail. How the fuck that ever happened God only knows.

Fri, 04/05/2013 - 00:15 | 3411081 CompassionateFascist

EZ answer, Banzai: NK "threatens" America, not Israel. IF NK directly threatened Israel with its existential Bomb, Mordor-on-the-Potomoc would attack immediately.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 20:33 | 3410477 The Heart

Oh my! You are right oh astute one...and look...under it's foot...the red button!

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 15:17 | 3409375 resurger

If the U.S is there, it will always be unstable.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 15:23 | 3409391 williambanzai7

And that is what the world wants. A shitty cocktail that everyone will drink but no one wants to write home about.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 15:34 | 3409440 The Heart

"Why can't we all get along?"

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 18:10 | 3410068 nmewn

I say send Jimmah back over, it worked so well last time ;-)

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 15:37 | 3409416 kaiserhoff

True William, but China has the leverage.

I always thought they would eventually get more than a little scared by this charade, and put an end to it.

That window seems to be closing. Good summary of the problem. It's everyone's business, but not really in anyone's self-interest.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 15:39 | 3409462 williambanzai7

Yes China has all the leverage it needs to move North Korea. But it does not want to. It won't be annexed to China and China abhors the idea of another strong regional competitor with a bomb.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 16:38 | 3409687 StychoKiller

China's calculations/machinations would all be for nought if NK does throw a nukular weapon, because the retaliation(s) from the US/SK would place a major source of radiation at Beijing's doorstep.

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 21:07 | 3410577 The Heart

"...would place a major source of radiation at Beijing's doorstep."

And that ain't all folks. If you want a concept, take a look at the present poisonous contaminating fallout plume dispersion that is spewing out all over the entire region now. Try to imagine ANY small amount added to this already slow killing fallout.

http://www.kachelmannwetter.de/japan/japan.html

(use drop down menu to select japan_wide_emissions_dispersion.flv)

Thu, 04/04/2013 - 15:54 | 3409517 ParkAveFlasher