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Homeland Security Agencies Wasted Money On Seminars Like “Did Jesus Die for Klingons Too?” & Training for a “Zombie Apocalypse”

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While we are waiting to find out who carried out the Boston terror attack, it is worth reflecting on one important fact …

America’s anti-terrorism policies since 9/11 have been a dismal failure.

Why?

Wasted Homeland Security Funding

Initially, a large amount of the homeland security spending has been wasted … producing “a bunch of crap”.

For example, spending money on zombie apocalypse training  or other silly programs is a bad investment which led to a false sense of security.

Spending defense money on a workshop called “Did Jesus die for Klingons too?” and DOD-run microbreweries is probably not helping stop terrorist attacks.

Moreover, using homeland security resources to spy on average Americans or crack down on peaceful protesters or government critics distracts from getting the actual bad guys.

If we had spent the money and deployed the resources on focused anti-terror efforts, we would be in a better position today.

Our Wars In the Middle East Have Created More Terrorists

Moreover, security experts – including both conservatives and liberals – agree that waging war in the Middle East weakens national security and increases terrorism. See this, this, this, this, this, this, this and this.

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Killing innocent civilians is one of the main things which increases terrorism. As one of the top counter-terrorism experts (the former number 2 counter-terrorism expert at the State Department) told me, starting wars against states which do not pose an imminent threat to America’s national security increases the threat of terrorism because:

One of the principal causes of terrorism is injuries to people and families.

The Iraq war wasn’t even fought to combat terrorism. And Al Qaeda wasn’t even in Iraq until the U.S. invaded that country.

And top CIA officers say that drone strikes increase terrorism (and see this).

Furthermore, James K. Feldman – former professor of decision analysis and economics at the Air Force Institute of Technology and the School of Advanced Airpower Studies – and other experts say that foreign occupation is the main cause of terrorism

University of Chicago professor Robert A. Pape – who specializes in international security affairs – points out:

Extensive research into the causes of suicide terrorism proves Islam isn’t to blame — the root of the problem is foreign military occupations.

 

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Each month, there are more suicide terrorists trying to kill Americans and their allies in Afghanistan, Iraq, and other Muslim countries than in all the years before 2001 combined.

 

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New research provides strong evidence that suicide terrorism such as that of 9/11 is particularly sensitive to foreign military occupation, and not Islamic fundamentalism or any ideology independent of this crucial circumstance. Although this pattern began to emerge in the 1980s and 1990s, a wealth of new data presents a powerful picture.

 

More than 95 percent of all suicide attacks are in response to foreign occupation, according to extensive research [co-authored by James K. Feldman - former professor of decision analysis and economics at the Air Force Institute of Technology and the School of Advanced Airpower Studies] that we conducted at the University of Chicago’s Project on Security and Terrorism, where we examined every one of the over 2,200 suicide attacks across the world from 1980 to the present day. As the United States has occupied Afghanistan and Iraq, which have a combined population of about 60 million, total suicide attacks worldwide have risen dramatically — from about 300 from 1980 to 2003, to 1,800 from 2004 to 2009. Further, over 90 percent of suicide attacks worldwide are now anti-American. The vast majority of suicide terrorists hail from the local region threatened by foreign troops, which is why 90 percent of suicide attackers in Afghanistan are Afghans.

 

Israelis have their own narrative about terrorism, which holds that Arab fanatics seek to destroy the Jewish state because of what it is, not what it does. But since Israel withdrew its army from Lebanon in May 2000, there has not been a single Lebanese suicide attack. Similarly, since Israel withdrew from Gaza and large parts of the West Bank, Palestinian suicide attacks are down over 90 percent.

 

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The first step is recognizing that occupations in the Muslim world don’t make Americans any safer — in fact, they are at the heart of the problem.

Our Program of Torture Created Terrorists

In addition, torture creates new terrorists:

  • A top counter-terrorism expert says torture increases the risk of terrorism (and see this).
  • One of the top military interrogators said that torture by Americans of innocent Iraqis is the main reason that foreign fighters started fighting against Americans in Iraq in the first place (and see this).
  • Former counter-terrorism czar Richard A. Clarke says that America’s indefinite detention without trial and abuse of prisoners is a leading Al Qaeda recruiting tool
  • A 30-year veteran of CIA’s operations directorate who rose to the most senior managerial ranks, says:

    Torture creates more terrorists and fosters more acts of terror than it could possibly neutralize.

“The administration’s policies concerning [torture] and the resulting controversies … strengthened the hand of our enemies.”

  • General Petraeus said that torture hurts our national security
  • And the reporter who broke Iran-Contra and other stories says that torture actually helped Al Qaeda, by giving false leads to the U.S. which diverted its military, intelligence and economic resources into wild goose chases

So the widespread program of torture under the Bush administration didn’t help.

Nice Job Creating More Terrorists, You Morons …

Additionally – in the name of fighting our enemies – the U.S. has directly been supporting Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups for the last decade. See this, this, this, this and this.

Why Have We Given Up Our Rights If the Government Can’t Keep Us Safe?

We have given up the fundamental rights which make us American.

The government insisted that – if we gave up our liberties – it would keep us safe.

It has failed to do so, and has instead squandered our national treasure, our resources and our troops on efforts which have only increased the risk of terrorism.

Will the Boston Terror Attack Lead to Shredding of Our Liberties 2.0 ... And More War?

War is always sold by artificially demonizing the enemy.  Countries need to lie about their enemies in order to demonize them sufficiently so that the people will support the war.

That is why intelligence “failures” – such as the following – are so common:

  • It is also now well-accepted that the Gulf of Tonkin Incident which led to the Vietnam war was a fiction (confirmed here).

I am not saying that the Boston marathon was a false flag attack. I have no idea at this point who carried it out. What I am saying is that the Boston bombings will be used by the powers-that-be to further their own agenda.

Prominent Americans have noted for years that another terrorist attack could usher in martial law (we're already pretty close) ... and more war (we're in a lot already):

  • Ron Paul stated the government “is determined to have martial law”, and that the government is hoping to get the people “fearful enough that they will accept the man on the white horse”. Paul said last year (at 28:00):
    What I fear the most is a false flag – something happening where one of our ships goes down, or there’s a plane that goes down, and of course it HAD to be the Iranians, you know, for sure, for certain
“We have to be careful, if somebody does this kind of provocation, big violent explosions of some kind, we have to not take the word of the masters there in Washington that this was some terrorist event because it could well be a provocation allowing them, or seemingly to allow them to get what they want.”
  • Robert David Steele – a 20-year Marine Corps infantry and intelligence officer, the second-ranking civilian in U.S. Marine Corps Intelligence, and former CIA clandestine services case officer – says that elements within the U.S. government may use any terrorist attack as an excuse to blame Iran
  • The highly influential Brookings Institution wrote a report in 2009 called “Which Path to Persia?” which hints that we should blame Iran for anything which happens (pages 84-85):
It would be far more preferable if the United States could cite an Iranian provocation as justification for the airstrikes before launching them. Clearly, the more outrageous, the more deadly, and the more unprovoked the Iranian action, the better off the United States would be.Of course, it would be very difficult for the United States to goad Iran into such a provocation without the rest of the world recognizing this game, which would then undermine it. (One method that would have some possibility of success would be to ratchet up covert regime change efforts in the hope that Tehran would retaliate overtly, or even semi-overtly, which could then be portrayed as an unprovoked act of Iranian aggression.)
  • One of America's top constitutional and military law experts – Jonathan Turley - writes:

Many critics have argued that there is a concerted effort to push the United States into a war with Iran by supporters of Israel. Patrick Clawson, director of research for the highly influential pro-Israel Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP) think tank, seemed intent to prove those rumors true this week in comments as a luncheon on “How to Build US-Israeli Coordination on Preventing an Iranian Nuclear Breakout.” Clawson casually discusses how to create a false flag operation to push the U.S. into war to overcome any reluctance by the public. We have been discussing how many leaders like Senator Joe Lieberman had begun to use the same rhetoric that led to the last two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and how the suggest timing of an attack has been tied to the presidential election.

In his remarks, Clawson helpfully lists a series of historical events used to push the country into war like the Gulf of Tonkin incident that gave us the Vietnam War. Clawson expressed his frustration in acknowledging that it is “[v]ery hard for me to see how the United States President can get us to war with Iran.” However, there is hope. Clawson explains that the “traditional way” to get the country into a war is through false flags or manufactured incidents where Americans are killed. Thus, he observes, “we are in the game of using covert means against the Iranians, we could get nastier about it. So, if in fact the Iranians aren’t going to compromise, it would be best if somebody else started the war.”

The fact that one of the leading analysis for the WINEP would feel comfortable in making such comments is itself quite chilling. It indicates that such discussions have become sufficiently regular that it has creeped into public discussion. It is a measure of the secret pressure building to push this country into a third major war despite our crippling economic conditions and losses in military personnel. The assumption in Washington is that neither Romney nor Obama could oppose such a war. Even if Obama does not publicly support Israel, the assumption is that political allies of Israel in Washington can guarantee that we would offer extensive military loans and intelligence. Even if there is a delay in such military loans and support, the assumption is that Israel can go to war with the understanding that the United States will cover a significant portion of the costs. Moreover, in his remarkably candid remarks, Clawson shows how the U.S. can easily be forced into direct combat by pushing Iran to simply kill some Americans or sink a few of our ships. Then members would be clamoring for revenge. Notably, the Israelis have been ratcheting up the war rhetoric in pushing Iran, which predictably has now reserved the right to engage in a preemptive strike not just against Israeli but U.S. interests. We would then, again, find ourselves in a war without any public debate or collective decision.

While Clawson adds a passing caveat that he is not advocating such an approach, his remarks are clearly designed to show how the group can get the United States into a war for Israel if only we can get Iran to kill some of our citizens or soldiers. Those people are of course expendable props in Clawson’s realpolitik. By the way, Clawson has been enlisted to give his insightful analysis at the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank. He is also a member of the National Defense University’s Institute for National Strategic Studies. The World Bank connection is particularly interesting given the history with Paul Wolfowitz who pushed the U.S. into two disastrous wars in the Bush Administration and was rewarded with being made the head of the World Bank.

It is the callous disconnect that is most chilling in these remarks. Thousands of U.S. soldiers have died or have been crippled for life in these wars that have left the country near bankruptcy (and increasingly hostile “allies” in Afghanistan and Iraq). Those casualties and costs, however, appear immaterial in the discussion of supporting Israel in a war against Iran.

 

The Boston terror attack was an immense tragedy and a barbaric act of terrorism. Those who carried out the attacks should be brought to justice. But - just as the Federal Reserve, Fannie, Freddie, Treasury and other officials and the big banks "fail their way upwards" - enriching themselves with more power everytime their failure leads to some catastrophe - the homeland security "planners" who have so outrageously squandered our blood and treasure will use this tragedy to grab more power, to further erode our liberties, and to launch more witch hunts. Just watch ...

 


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Wed, 04/17/2013 - 06:38 | Link to Comment Setarcos
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Silly me!  There I was supposing that GW is rational.

But it seems that he still believes his gubbermint conspiracy theory that 19 box cutter wielding non-pilots caused 9/11 ... organized from some cave in Afghanistan, though Osama bin Laden was in a hospital in Pakistan at the time.

Whatever accounts for the Boston Bombs, I am amazed that GW still believes in the official conspiracy theory about 9/11, which is wholly irrational.

Just visit:  http://www.ae911truth.org/en/home.html

As of Sept 1st we are mounting a global campaign to have a fresh, real inquiry ... yes I am a member of A & E for 9/11 Truth.

Seems that GW and sundry other ZHers will be against a new inquiry into the fateful event which has led to all wars since 9/11.

How very sad and fatal.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:49 | Link to Comment Decimus Lunius ...
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Saying the single largest arms producer and exporter is stupid for pursuing policies that enlarge the problem those policies are meant to combat is naive.  The cash cow that was the cold war ended in 1991 yet somehow the base DoD budget (excluding costs of our excursions in Iraq and Medieval Afghanistan, veteran's benefits, and miscellaneous requests for, inter alia, atomic defense initiatives) was $553 billion in 2012 which is only 6% less in real dollars than we were spending to fight the Soviet Union (for one year) in 1991. That doesn't even include another $43 billion to the boondoggle that is DHS, increases in existing domestic security agency spending, and who the hell knows what the NSA or CIA have spent and are spending.   

The military industrial complex saw what happens when the chosen enemy suddenly and quite publicly becomes less than threatening.  Now do we really think the military industrial complex, intelligence industrial complex, and domestic security complex will allow their new enemy, the one that justifies their billion dollar checks each month, simply disappear like the USSR?  

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 06:35 | Link to Comment Setarcos
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No the PTB - most notably banksters - will never allow anyone to lose belief in some bogeyman hiding in the shadows, but ready to take over the world.

Once upon a time it was 'communists', though now it is 'islamists' ... though lumpens have been so brainwashed that they have been got to fear liberals, moderate socialists and every person who actually opposes BIG government, whilst the real conspirators are the banksters and their bought politicians ... fascism by stealth and outright theft of national resources.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 20:01 | Link to Comment George Washington
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At the same time, both the Bush and Obama administrations have slashed funding for programs which would actually help prevent terror attacks.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 00:54 | Link to Comment DoneThis2Long
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If they were to cut on O's personal detail, eliminate all but 1-2 vacations a year, Moochelle and the Princesses curtail their vacations as well, not to mention the revolving door parties held at the WH, the odds are, the deficits would be significantly narrowed, if not eliminated.

In that respect, the Bushes were tops and very thoughtful .... unlike "Current Resident".

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 19:58 | Link to Comment tony bonn
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"...I am not saying that the Boston marathon was a false flag attack.."

that's ok - i will say it - the boston marathon attacks were done by the bush crime syndicate and its cia and endorsed by the nazi rockefellers.....

the same old tired routine as 9/11 was played where some mystery spook causes a commotion, the fbi comes out in no time to declare that it is solved, followed by a few bio terrorist letters it sends to certain wayward congressmen....and oh, we need to spend more money on local police thugs and not cut any of the nazi state....it is a tired old drill....

who had the capability to fill all of those garbage cans? and who wanted to blow up the jfk library? stop being so dense, people.....you are being played like a cheapass fiddle....

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 20:25 | Link to Comment George Washington
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If it's a false flag, these might be as well: 

Nationwide Terror Attacks? Boston, California, D.C.?

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 19:33 | Link to Comment Rbh110
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Gov Devil Patrick to introduce legislation banning pressure-cookers in MA.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 18:42 | Link to Comment Herdee
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I love old StarTrek re-runs,eom

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 19:30 | Link to Comment Bicycle Repairman
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I love to give old StarTrek reruns the Mystery 3000 Theater treatment.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 18:27 | Link to Comment besnook
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the tell on the false flaginess of the boston marathon bombs is given by the direction of the plume of the blast. the blast near the finish line was directed vertically. the plume from the blast was in a tight vertical pattern. that is why there weren't more casualties. a horizontal plume would have resulted in casualties across the street in the stands set up high above the street level. there were no casualties except to those people in very close proximity to the bombs and many of those casualties were apparently caused by the concussion wave and not bomb shrapnel(supposedly nails and ball bearings). the intent of the bombs was to scare a lot of people(the entire bottom half of the class) not kill a lot of people, a humane bomb.

 

this is a .gov issued(gi) bomb for sure. i wonder how much they paid for the pressure cookers?

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 00:59 | Link to Comment Econolingus
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What a bunch of crap: the "plume" may or may not have been directed vertically, but the discharge and shrapnel field were most certainly directed horizontally, as evidenced by the injuries suffered: lower extremity traumatic amputation.  

Smoke generally rises (basic thermodynamics) and is not even a principal indicator of projectile direction.

 

 

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 18:26 | Link to Comment rsnoble
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Not to mention the few million people pissed off in the homeland over 9-11 etc.

Zombies are nothing more than starving people for lack of a descent fucking job that have been thrown out on the streets and intinct for survival kicks in.  After going without food a couple weeks a bottle of heinz57 on a fat fucking politician would probably sound pretty good.  In fact after 2 weeks you could just imagine the goddamn heinz 57 part.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 18:23 | Link to Comment neutrinoman
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The "study" is especially dumb, or perhaps misinterpreted.

Most US casualties in Afghanistan and Iraq were not due to suicide attacks, but to IEDs and other non-suicide incidents. There are plenty of suicide bombings in Iraq -- as in Lebanon -- but they're not directed against foreign infidels. From 2003 to 2011, or from 2001 to now, the overwhelming casualties from suicide and other attacks in Iraq and Afghanistan have been people living in those countries, not occupying troops.

The reason there are no suicide attacks against Israeli soldiers in Lebanon is because after the summer of 2000, there were none there to be targets.

The wave of suicide attacks against Israeli civilians from 1997 to 2004 was very much against Israel's existence, as the perpetrators said themselves over and over and over. The claim otherwise is a lie. The reason that the attacks stopped was simply that Israel built a security fence to control entry from the West Bank to Israel proper. It's not for lack of would-be perpetrators, as anyone following Israeli news knows.

I don't know what it is about the US "paleo" right, but -- like the smarmy, ignorant American left -- its foreign policy ideas are largely exercises in narcissism and navel-gazing. It also has a bee in its bonnet about Jews and Israel, for some reason. As for George Washington -- the real one -- try this:

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Letter_to_Touro_Synagogue

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 18:20 | Link to Comment bilejones
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"While we are waiting to find out who carried out the Boston terror attack"

 

No, we are waiting to find out who will be blamed for the Boston terror attack.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 18:05 | Link to Comment lolmao500
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It's a not a failure if the point is to create more chaos, death and war to make more money and get more power...

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 17:01 | Link to Comment Winston Smith 2009
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"the North Vietnamese were possibly retaliating for raids carried out on that area of their coastline by South Vietnamese raiders in PT boats"

And that raises the question about whether the whole thing was a setup - raid the North Vietnamese coast via covert activities, then send destroyers with commanders unaware of the raids into the same area.  North Vietnamese retailate for covert attacks and, presto,  "justification" for war!

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 17:20 | Link to Comment Bicycle Repairman
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The commander of the Naval task force at Tonkin Gulf?  Jim Morrison's dad.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 16:56 | Link to Comment Winston Smith 2009
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"It is also now well-accepted that the Gulf of Tonkin Incident which led to the Vietnam war was a fiction"

From one of your links:

"Hanyok's article, "Skunks, Bogies, Silent Hounds, and the Flying Fish: The Gulf of Tonkin Mystery, 2-4 August 1964," originally published in the National Security Agency's classified journal Cryptologic Quarterly in early 2001, provides a comprehensive SIGINT-based account "of what happened in the Gulf of Tonkin." Using this evidence, Hanyok argues that the SIGINT confirms that North Vietnamese torpedo boats attacked a U.S. destroyer, the USS Maddox, on August 2, 1964, although under questionable circumstances."

It was the second attack, the one used to justify direct US involvement, that didn't happen.  The "questionable circumstances" of the first and only attack may be referring to what I read about in, I think, one of James Bovard's books on the NSA.  Somewhere I read that the North Vietnamese were possibly retaliating for raids carried out on that area of their coastline by South Vietnamese raiders in PT boats.  I've found this on-line about that:

Jerry Paull, a former U.S. Marine and Vietnam vet, has another perspective.

For six months in 1965, he ferried South Vietnamese forces on Norwegian-made PT boats into North Vietnam to conduct raids, kidnaps and psychological operations such as dropping propaganda leaflets.

Although he was a U.S. Marine, Paull says he wore civilian clothes on the missions - in violation of a 1954 Geneva convention - and the PT boats, called "nasties," were painted black and had no markings.

"I have heard and read," Paull says, "that at the time of the Gulf of Tonkin incident that it is suspected that the North Vietnamese mistook the U.S. destroyers for the nasties, and that the whole Gulf of Tonkin incident was a mistake on the North Vietnamese's part."

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 16:54 | Link to Comment Hongcha
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The govnah of MA gulped a little when he got that nasty question at the start of his press conference, right after wrapping himself in the flag with a heart-tugging ode to the honest people who came up to help.

Cocksucking politicians will help themselves to everything, will jump in front of any parade and pretend to lead it.

He didn't like that question at all.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 16:37 | Link to Comment George Washington
Tue, 04/16/2013 - 16:44 | Link to Comment Bicycle Repairman
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Thanks, George.  I'm sure 99% of the officers were doing their jobs as instructed.  But it is imperative the 1% get dealt with.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 15:53 | Link to Comment Bicycle Repairman
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Oathkeepers had planned for large anti-gun rallies all over the country on Patriots day.  They were going to gather on Lexington Green as well.

I guess the 24 hour news cycle got taken up by something else.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 15:10 | Link to Comment Radical Marijuana
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"America’s anti-terrorism policies since 9/11 have been a dismal failure.

Why?"

Sorry, but that is the same kind of mainstream moron perspective that people who criticize the "war on drugs" tend to take.

It is a grossly superficial way to understand what is happening to NOT perceive that governments are the biggest terrorists, and that governments are covertly controlled by the best terrorists.

I totally AGREE with this conclusion:

... just as the Federal Reserve, Fannie, Freddie, Treasury and other officials and the big banks "fail their way upwards" - enriching themselves with more power every time their failure leads to some catastrophe - the homeland security "planners" who have so outrageously squandered our blood and treasure will use this tragedy to grab more power, to further erode our liberties, and to launch more witch hunts. Just watch ...

What I DISAGREE with is that that is any kind of mistake or accident. It is NOT simply stupidity, nor merely incompetence (although the political puppets may well be).

There is a malicious plan, which WORKS to do what it was really intended to do. Furthermore, to more deeply understand that plan requires abandoning the false fundamental dichotomies, and their related impossible ideals, within the entire domain of politics.

What we NEED is radical paradigm shifts in political science.

We should be using unitary mechanisms, rather that relying on the same old false fundamental dichotomies, in all ways that we approach our political problems.

That is necessary because not only does deeper research reveal that our civilization is controlled by terrorists, it also reveals why that MUST be the case, and that, therefore, the ONLY genuine solutions are to do that better.

The entire history of war was success based on deceits.

Those who were the best at being dishonest, and backing that up with violence, ACTUALLY dominate the established social systems. Almost all of the public terrorist events were false flag attacks, which have DELIBERATELY created the vicious spirals of MORE terrorism!

Therefore, all of the public responses to those events have become a backfiring farce, and waste of resources, outside of the ulterior purposes which were being served.

The established systems are a runaway fascist plutocracy juggernaut, deliberately developing every excuse they could to build a bigger fascist police state.

The history of slavery and racism segued into the drug wars. The creation and exaggeration of the dangers of communists was next. Now, the false flag terrorist attacks have become the driving forces to cause the blowback of more real terrorism, and that is ALL inside of the runaway social spiral of the people at the top of the social pyramid systems using deceits and destruction to advance their overall agenda.

Furthermore, the chronic political problems inherent in the nature of life require that there MUST be some system of death controls. What we have now are the death controls which work through the maximum possible deceits. Thus, we have the Vicious Wolves, and their more domesticated Dogs, controlling the vast majority of the Zombie Sheeple, amongst whom are the Black Sheep protesting that, by saying that everyone should be better sheep.

The realities are that the top carnivores in the human ecology systems are the best organized criminals, and the biggest terrorists, who deliberately drive those conditions, in order to reinforce their positions. However, it is NOT possible for there to ever be no murder systems whatsoever.

That is what I meant by NEEDING to approach these political problems through unitary mechanisms.

We have had progress in other sciences, BUT, our political science is ridiculously old-fashioned bullshit.

There IS, and MUST BE, some murder system doing death controls. Those real systems are being operated by the biggest terrorists, the governments, covertly controlled by the best organized terrorist. The other alleged "terrorists" are their tools.

The deeper problems are that human realities MUST always be some systems of organized lies, operating organized robberies. We keep on being stuck inside of the current systems, where the most Vicious Wolves control Wolves in Sheep's clothing. Meanwhile, the fake opposition continue to be Black Sheep, saying everyone should be better sheep, especially the big, bad Wolves!

Everything IS backwards, and therefore, the only genuine solutions are to start looking at all these problems backwards to the ways we do now!

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 15:17 | Link to Comment George Washington
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"I am not saying that the Boston marathon was a false flag attack. I have no idea at this point who carried it out."

But I don't have an opinion yet one way or the other ...

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 18:32 | Link to Comment Radical Marijuana
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We may never know, since we no longer can trust any official investigations to be properly done.

I think that the people who did some of the original false flag terrorist attacks would like it if that provoked some real terrorist events in response, so that those could be proven to have occurred.

That would be analogous to what happened during the war against some drugs. The war on drugs subsidized the development of organized crime gangs, which situation then became a runaway vicious spiral of violence, around the black market money from making drugs illegal. Thereby, more than a trillion dollars could be spent over several decades to grow a bigger fascist police state.

The war on drugs was another kind of "false flag attack." The war on drugs is more than 75% against cannabis. That war was based on asserting that the single best plant on the planet for people, for food, fiber, fun and medicine, was "marijuana that was almost as bad as murder." E.g., that situation was what got the Mexican drug cartels going in the first place. It subsidized them with billions and billions of dollars, for decades, which enabled them to turn into the monsters that they are now. That then drove the vicious spirals of needing even more militarized police to attempt to cope with the problems created by enormous amounts of black market money. Of course, meanwhile, the biggest banks were able to launder the most money, to sKim the cream of the profits off of the consequences of those drug wars.

All off those social developments are playing through in analogous ways in the war on terror as they did in the war on drugs, only astronomically amplified, to become way worse!

False flag terrorist attacks, which were blamed on those who had nothing to do with them, can then drive the vicious spiral of actually creating real terrorists, in response to how they were unjustly treated. That would actually benefit those behind the original false flag terrorist attacks even more, especially since, if they could prove that, it would then reinforce their original false story. They would have achieved an evil self-fulfilling prophesy.

That is like how the evil drug laws created evil criminal drug gangs, which then really existed, and could be pointed at as the problem which was supposed to be due to those drugs being evil themselves. However, the original evils go back and back, towards the paradoxical points in history whereby those who were the best at deceits, and backing that up with destruction, became the most powerful and wealthy people, who benefit the most from the social pyramid systems, that they originally made and maintained.

Since there MUST be some human ecology, but our real ecology is the result of the top carnivores operating that through them being the best at deceits, we are trapped in runaway social insanities!  The social control mechanisms that exist are the result of those who were the best at being dishonest, and backing that up with violence, prevailing and benefiting the most what what they actually did.

The opposition to them is almost totally controlled to spout the same bullshit, since the ruling classes perfected their ability to become Wolves in Sheep's clothing. Instead of us taking the technologies which are making us trillions of times more powerful, to go through radical paradigm shifts in the ways we structure our money/murder systems, we are actually pumping up the established social pyramid systems to become trillions of times BIGGER, in ways which are impossible to sustain!

The standard public "debates" about events like those in Boston will surely continue to be 99% plus bullshit of Wolves in Sheep's clothing, speaking to the Zombie Sheeple.

In that context, we may well never be able to understand who were the real wolves in this particular case? Moreover, we will never have any better public debates about how to operate our human ecology and political economy, other than more of the currently established runaways systems of triumphant deceits, driving more insane destruction.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:44 | Link to Comment DoneThis2Long
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"We may never know, since we no longer can trust any official investigations to be properly done."

Agreed on dat. In the not too distant past, the media, functioned as the truth seekers and reporters thereof, but that has changed along with the rest. Now it is all a veneer of gold leaf over piles of bullshit, and even worse of late: complete disinformation.

I just read the DHS "mission statement" and basically we are enemies of the state if we happen to be in disagreement with the "official party line" (my definition not theirs, but that is it). The more one lifts the cover and looks under, the more DHS looks like the New America's version of the "turd reich" or "KGB on steroids".

Bottom line, some evil and greedy fuckers are running this Muppet show.

 

 

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 14:36 | Link to Comment Joseph Jones
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Israel and USA hate Islam, desire to destroy Islam, and murder all 1.5B followers of Islam because Islam rails continuously against usury, the life blood of Judiac-Zionist western culture.  

George, I'd love to read your expose on this subject. 

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 16:21 | Link to Comment DoneThis2Long
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"Israel and USA hate Islam, desire to destroy Islam, and murder all 1.5B followers of Islam because Islam rails continuously against usury, the life blood of Judiac-Zionist western culture."

You were kidding right?

Until 9/11, we gave as much of a rat's ass about islam, as we did about any other religion or group. As moronic as the American policies have been in the Middle East for decades, at least a few brighter minds figured out that the area's residents were indeed Muslim, and if so hated them, then precocious fewer $ would have flown to them for oil, given that the technology has been available all along to at least dramatically reduce our use of oil not the least of which by employing European engine technology so to enhance performance while using less oil. To the contrary, it was a willful decision to allow the arabs - aka "Muslims" to have income from oil in lieu of the industrial sector they lacked, thus keeping some level of normalcy. Also if we so hated them why bother educating them as was the case with many Egyptians. List can go on.

Did the US favor Israel ...? Duhh .... yes, but the "hate" bit is a bit of a horse-pill hard to swallow.

The sentiments did get a bit 'sour" when just about every response islamic nations/populations had, was to go ape-shit and destroy everything in sight at the slightest amount of disagreement .... ie the Danish Cartoons .... WTF .....

I'll leave it at this.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 17:49 | Link to Comment Radical Marijuana
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DoneThis2Long, the key phrase in that sentence is "against usury!

Just about everything EVERYTHING happening in human history for several Centuries has been the development of runaway usury!

Before that, there was a long history of War Kings, emerging through military conflicts, to establish social pyramid systems of SLAVERY, rationalized by racism.

That physical form of asserting "do what I say, or I will kill you" created the sovereign states, with their claims to have a monopoly over violence.

The powers that EVERYONE has to rob and to kill were assembled and channelled. Those powers became more symbolic, as information became more important than physical power. Through those processes, the Fraud Kings, the international bankers, gradually took covert control over the sovereign powers of countries, and legalized more lies, through the other corporations that grew up around those banks.

The current SUPREME POWER today is SYMBOLIC. It is the power to make "money" out of nothing, as debts, which fraud everyone else is forced to accept because that fiat, faith-based "money" IS backed by the power of governments to collect taxes, and deem that kind of "money" to be legal tender. Thus, the current world system is primarily dominated by the Anglo-American (Zionist) empire, which is based upon the force backed frauds manifested through the globalized, monetary and taxation systems, whose direction and benefit has already been almost 99% privatized.

Almost all the history for several hundred years, especially including since 2001, has been about attempts to consolidate that hegemony over the banksters' legalized counterfeiting power to make "money" out of nothing, as debts, and to force everyone else to accept that.

The major religions were always against usury. However, gradually, the Jewish and Christian traditions were transformed to allow that to happen, through one loophole in that prohibition being added on top of another, until it became almost completely circumvented.

Meanwhile, the Islamic tradition was not allowed Centuries to gradually transform to do the same thing. Therefore, Islam IS a significant obstacle to the global hegemony of the transnational banksters being able to continue to develop their hegemony over the power to legally counterfeit the "money" supply, that everyone else is forced to use!

THAT is the main reason behind those transnational banksters, who are collectively a group of trillionaire mass murderers, deliberately driving a series of false flag terrorist events, in order to have excuses to start more genocidal wars, as well as prepare to impose democidal martial law. Their paradoxical "success" is to use false flag terrorism to eventually create real terrorists. They deliberately fund all sides, to drive dialectical processes towards achieving their overall goals. Meanwhile their paradoxical "successes" are making it more and more difficult to tell the difference between previous possible false flag terrorist events, and the later real terrorist events, that those false flag attacks were designed to provoke. (It is not like "blowback" is not understood, because of stupidity, but rather fits into the overall strategy.)

Meanwhile, my view is that human realities are ALWAYS and necessarily organized lies, operating organized robberies. All organized religions fit into that pattern. Therefore, in my view, Islam is just another organized crime gang, using lies, backed by violence, to control other people. (All one has to do is look at how big any social organization is, in order to understand how effectively it has been operating its own style of organized lies and robberies.)

There is deliberately being driven clashes of cultures towards wars between the West and Islamic countries, because what is really happening is a conflict between the different kinds of dominant organized crime gangs, that are controlling the real world.

The transnational banksters ARE attempting to consolidate their global power through absolute usury, based on them being able to make "money" out of nothing, as debts. Islamic countries DO significantly stand in their way. Thus, Islam is being demonized as terrorists, in order to have excuses to perpetuate the vicious spirals we are currently inside of ...

The PROBLEM is that all these old-fashioned social habits and psychological attitudes are being pumped up trillions of times by science and technology! In that context, it appears to be practically useless to do the research to attempt to better understand what is really going on ...

What is actually happening is runaway social insanity, as manifesting in events like those in Boston recently. However, the PROBLEM is that the only genuine resolutions to these situations, of too much triumphant deceits, backed by destruction, would have to be better death controls, as negotiated by the dominant crime gangs, that are controlling the world. However, they are all committed to being even more deceitful, and are attempting to pump their old-fashioned social pyramid systems to become trillions of times BIGGER, despite that being obviously impossible.

It remains to be seen how much crazier our style of civilization is going to become, when pumped up to become trillions of times more powerful ... So far, there are barely the slightest signs of that doing anything other than make us become collectively trillions of times more insane than ever before!

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 22:24 | Link to Comment DoneThis2Long
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Rad Mary-Jane ..;-), I did notice that tidbit of detail, but, weighted it against other negatives that culture has. In my book, all cultures, religions, societies, groups, etc, have their +s and -s, to varying degrees and in varying combinations. Who is to say which is better or worse?

Usury is a major sticking point, but so is violence, intollerance of others' views/rights/opinions etc. It seems they do come as a package.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 16:06 | Link to Comment Tree of Liberty
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Please state where the US is engaged in destroying islam?

Is this the same islam that worships a moon god and also engages in thus described usury of its own faithful.

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/moongod.htm

https://billtotten.wordpress.com/2011/03/28/usury-interest-and-islamic-b...

There is no King but King Jesus!

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 18:34 | Link to Comment jimmytorpedo
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I prefer fat Jesus.

He was better with the rhinestones and white pant suits.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 15:57 | Link to Comment ITrustMyGut
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well said.. and highly sccurate!

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 14:35 | Link to Comment DoneThis2Long
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Hey Bloomberg,

How is that In-Your-Face Mosque overlooking Ground Zero, working out for OUR nation you arrogant narcissistic prick - of course, my compliments are meant in the nicest possible manner?!?

Will the gesture be paying off anytime during this century, or was it a long term horizon proposition, say 200-300 years?

Then, of course, Napolitano/DHS treating virtually every American as if a criminal, while the borders are willfully wide open and the nation's immigration laws are simply ignored, further compounding existing problems, yet legal gun owner citizens, are treated as certain criminals. At least put fucking toll-gates along the border, as has been done on highways, so we can raise a few pesos.

Ironically, in spite of it all, they expect us all to help with info we could provide ...

To be clear, having a Mosque in NY is a non-issue (if used only for religious purposes which do not include anti-American propaganda or such), and not front row @ Ground 0. Also, taking into account the residents and Americas' opinions into consideration would have been a plus. As for asking for community's help, by all means, but after being treated as criminals how dare they .....

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 14:29 | Link to Comment Bicycle Repairman
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The finish line at the Boston Marathon is the apex of public security in Boston and a marquee event for this nation.  Exposed to the entire world.  The good news is the window of opportunity for trouble is short time-wise and small geograpically.

All of America's security forces were there.  Spotters.  Bomb sniffing dogs.  The whole array.  They even ran a drill beforehand.

How'd they do?  They were defeated by what appears to be multiple home-made bombs planted by amateurs right in the very small target area and under their noses.  I give them an 'F'.

Any grades from DHS or BPD or Osama, yet?  Will the people who were possibly derelict in their duty be called out?

I'll speculate: no.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 05:11 | Link to Comment Vlad Tepid
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DEBKAfile (say what you will) says they have evidence that there were NO aerial spotters and ZERO bomb sniffing dogs.  I agree there SHOULD have been...which is why I'm all the more suspicious.  I guarantee it was NOT a "patriot group" because those groups know who the "enemy" and would not target a group of runners at a lame sports event.  That's the territory of Islamic terrorists or their brothers-in-arms, the false flag Syndicate.  And since there was no claim of responibility a la (a little joke there) the Islamic terrorist MO, that leaves one clear suggestion.

Wed, 04/17/2013 - 05:25 | Link to Comment The Heart
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"How'd they do?  They were defeated by what appears to be multiple home-made bombs planted by amateurs right in the very small target area and under their noses.  I give them an 'F'."

Howdy BR, it would appear this is true. Or, it could be they get a B- because they pulled it off, surrounded the event area with more force than a normal marathon would have at it, and succeeded in getting the media to come in wagging the doggies tail in stride. The horsewash is just so putrid, there is not even a blink of an eye to watch out into the direction of the lies and propaganda around this false flag event. We all saw the BS coming. Just sickening.

One of the first videos that came yesterday was done by a Boston Globe reporter, the same people who had earlier announced->"Boston Globe: Officials: There will be a controlled explosion opposite the library within one minute as part of bomb squad activities." His first words right after the first explosion were like perfectly timed script. He said, "it's an attack", then the rest of the troops played their parts. Sandy hook crew, part two.

"Part of Bomb squad activities." That leaves the door wide open for a lot. Having all the forces around, including a very illegal presence of the army, only insured that the False Flag Event would go down as planned without any outside interference. When you control the playing ground for the event, it minimizes any mistakes, or intruder filming happening. Or, when all the players are on your team, both sides, your agenda wins.

REGISTER YOUR GUNS NOW>>>FOR CONFISCATION LATER!!!!

LOOK OVER THERE>>>WHILE WE DO THIS OVER HERE!!!

The crime is, we all live in a very abnormal world now where this kind of dinosaur war by deception philosophy that is so ancient and out dated, still dominates the mass mind using the main tool of fear. War only profits the evil banksters. The calamity of ridiculousness in these false flag events to take the attention away from the evil politicians passing more draconian laws that are as valid as toilet paper, and failing in their classes, is all part of the bankster cover-up of the ship that is going down.

May all souls on board just enjoy the simplest things of life that we all have in each moment...one day at a time.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 14:49 | Link to Comment Bastiat
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They only failed because any of us have any rights left and because they don't have enough people/money/equipment.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 17:10 | Link to Comment DoneThis2Long
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That US Constitution keeps getting in the way, but have no fear, Ohhhbummer will take care of that before the Uhaul, departs with all that is not nailed down - only if we'll be so lucky that he leaves!!!!!

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 14:55 | Link to Comment Bicycle Repairman
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Home-made bombs planted by amateurs in a tight timeframe/geography that was filled with this nation's finest security personnel, including bomb sniffing dogs.

KABOOM.  KABOOM.

Even if the perps are captured and the case against them isn't a frame.  The terrorists won.  I lost my constitutional rights in an unconstitutional manner to provide kabuki security to soccer moms and the terrorists won that one, too.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 20:47 | Link to Comment The Second Rule
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Again, I think to find the truth you should always follow the money first, ideology second. I'm not prepared to go past correlation to confirmation and false flag event, but I can't help but notice whenever there's talk of cutting the defense budget, KABOOM, instant terrorist event to elevate the threat level. FAUX has been working this angle for the last 48 hours. No surprise. The same yellow journalist station that helped lead the charge for the Gulf War based on fake WMDs.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 14:41 | Link to Comment George Washington
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I upvoted you, sir. 

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 16:07 | Link to Comment Winston Smith 2009
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They failed to stop this attack only because they didn't have enough money ($1 trillion since 9/11) or police state infrastructure!  Haven't we all learned that by now?  After all, citizens, the only truly safe State is a Police State.  I'm sure this tragic but statistically irrelevant event, which will be covered ad nauseum by the corporate media, will take us further in that direction.  Because the general public is that stupid.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 16:25 | Link to Comment DoneThis2Long
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The republicans bitched about use of drones, so not enough were deployed and they lacked the proper detection technology so to spot the pressure cookers filled with BBs, something DHS has been requesting for at least 5 years - ugh .... no such technology existed then .... I meant 2 years. It's Rand Paul's fault!

EDIT: forgot </sarc>

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 16:42 | Link to Comment Winston Smith 2009
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~$100k spent to carry out the 9/11 attack resulting in $1 trillion spent on police state infrastructure in the US since then, loss of liberties and privacy, and two multi-trillion dollar wars.  How much spent on these Boston devices to further send us down the slippery slope?

An average of 35 people killed per year in mass (4 or more) shootings and everyone goes ballistic about guns.  Now this.  The MSM feeds on viewership, so they blow everything out of proportion and the public blindly follows it.  Never any perspective at all.  Tragic, yes.  Worth panicking about, no.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 21:04 | Link to Comment Papasmurf
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An average of 35 people killed per year in mass (4 or more) shootings and everyone goes ballistic about guns. 

No one went ballistic about guns.  That is just what you're supposed to believe.  Our politicians and their talking head media outlets went ballistic, but Americans aren't swallowing it anymore. 

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 17:07 | Link to Comment DoneThis2Long
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"The MSM feeds on viewership, so they blow everything out of proportion and the public blindly follows it."

At the rate things are going on the MSM front, within 12 months Jerry Springer will be classified as an intellectual pursuit.

Even Charlie Rose has gone down the crapper.

Tue, 04/16/2013 - 16:43 | Link to Comment Winston Smith 2009
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And, hey, while we're at it, let's exploit BOTH recent tragedies:

Sandy Hook Families at Boston Marathon Traumatized Again

http://gma.yahoo.com/sandy-hook-families-boston-marathon-traumatized-aga...

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