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Boston Terror Narrative Starts Falling Apart
We have no idea whether or not the Chechen brothers Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev were the Boston terrorists.
But several parts of the official narrative are already falling apart.
Initially, the claim that they robbed a 7-11 is totally false. USA Today reported on April 19th:
There was a 7-Eleven robbery in Cambridge last night, but it had nothing to do with the Boston Marathon bombing suspects.
Margaret Chabris, the director of corporate communication at 7- Eleven, says the surveillance video of the crime was not taken at a 7-Eleven and that the suspect that did rob the 7-Eleven does not look like Tamerlan or Dzhokhar Tsarnaev.
"The suspect in the photos for that particular 7-Eleven robbery looks nothing like the suspects," Chabris says. "The police or someone made a mistake. Someone was confused."
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At an earlier press conference morning, when [State Police Superintendent Timothy Alban] described the manhunt and standoff that resulted in the death of an MIT police officer, he also said that the two brothers robbed a 7-Eleven.
Moreover, the FBI initially denied ever having spoken with either of the brothers. But CBS news notes:
The FBI admitted Friday they interviewed the now-deceased Boston Marathon bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev two years ago and failed to find any incriminating information about him.
Other oddities include the following:
- According to the head cross country coach at the University of Mobile - a marathon runner who has run in numerous big races - bomb-sniffing dogs and a bomb squad inspected the runners ... and authorities repeatedly announced over the loudspeaker that they were conducting drills. This occurred at the start of the Boston marathon. He believes that authorities must have had credible evidence of a bomb threat
- Neoconservatives provided substantial support to terrorists in Chechnya
- Chechens have previously been framed (by the Russians) for terrorist acts which they probably didn't commit
Again, they might be guilty. But as Glenn Greenwald notes:
The overarching principle here should be that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is entitled to a presumption of innocence until he is actually proven guilty. As so many cases have proven - from accused (but exonerated) anthrax attacker Stephen Hatfill to accused (but exonerated) Atlanta Olympic bomber Richard Jewell to dozens if not hundreds of Guantanamo detainees accused of being the "worst of the worst" but who were guilty of nothing - people who appear to be guilty based on government accusations and trials-by-media are often completely innocent. Media-presented evidence is no substitute for due process and an adversarial trial.
Indeed, the FBI said it was sure that Bruce Ivins was the anthrax killer (after falsely accusing 2 other people of being the culprits).
However, the National Academy of Science found that the FBI failed to prove its case.
Note: Media said that the door-to-door searches conducted in Watertown were voluntary. However - whether or not you agree with the need to do so - the searches were not always exactly voluntary.
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How would it be tipping their hand to debunk these questions? And do you not believe the press has an obligation to investigate such matters? Like they investigated whether Iraq had WMDs for example? I guess you are comfortable with the press being not the 4th Estate but the 4th branch of government. I am not.
The MSM is investigating these matters...and has the same success rate they've always had in the age of internet...gotta be first with the story "journalism".
Practically zero.
So why...again...is GW quoting a CBS story or any other MSM story?
You mean, apart from him being a Zionist gatekeeper? Errrm ... nope ... no other reason comes to mind.
But the questions still need to be answared. And it is the job of alternative media to ask them (since neither Murdoch's nor Rothschild's kadet reporters will be digging too deep!).
PS. Alex Jones, the most successful Zionist gatekeeper, ALWAYS quotes the MSM ... and claims it gives him 'credibility' (which is probably true in the case of newcomers to the shepherded 'alternative' flock).
Dawg! Go easy!
Po George has been tryin his darnest here...to find sum middle ground...
in a nuklear test zone.
Cue: picture of guy in a chicken suit....struttin wit sum barbecue!
The problem with todays MSM, apart from its bias (left/right, whatever) is, nothing is vetted as it used to be. It used to be that media would not run with a story unless it had been confirmed by multiple sources.
It was a rare occurrence when they would even attempt to begin a story/report with the phrase "According to a high government official who wishes to remain anonymous..." now its done all the time. I quit reading it right then or continue with an extremely skeptical eye.
Why?
Because its almost pointless. Nothing more than innuendo or gossip. If the "sources" veracity and integrity can't be judged along with the quote, it might as well have come Kim Kardashian talking about quantum physics...its meaningless.
Here's what I wrote on the day of the bombing:
Zerohedge conspiracy fucktards out in force today of course. It's the Elders of Zion, oh wait it's the CIA, oh wait it the Kenyan in the Whitehouse, oh wait it's the FBI, oh wait its Mossad etc etc ad nauseum..
And when some Islamo-facist nutjobs are eventually caught don't wait for any admission by the 'conspiratados' they were wrong. They'll double-down on their false-flag fantasies as usual. Its like arguing with religious fundamentalists. They just happen to know the 'real' truth and no amount of evidence will convice them otherwise.
Sure enough...
This site is becoming an embarrasing pastiche of inforwars and other similar sites pandering to teenage-mentality conspiracy-tards who will believe any insane croc of shit in preference to reality.
You tell em, Plumplechook. The only flaw in your initial assessment is you could have mentioned that head assclown George Washington would be leading the conspiracy charge with any two or three pieces of sticky taffy he can come up with to tie it to the Mossad/CIA/Rupert Murdoch and the rest.
Don't worry about all the negative clicks. This site is one of the few places these clowns got to blame the world for their miseries and inadequacies.
GW and his followers live in a world that once a journalist anywhere writes something down, it's absolute rock-solid fact so of course when the story changes it's a conspiracy. The same goes with his quoting the FBI or CIA because you know of course, if you work for those organizations, you're plugged in like the Borg Collective and have every interview done by the FBI memorized in your head and therefore every FBI agent knows every interview or interrogation ever taken. These clowns will fall for everything and they all have their money in gold and doomsday supplies.
Frosty's back!
Hey dude...it's been like, forever! How's tricks? Same ol same ol huh?
Your bein wheeled out signifies they've scooped right down to the bottom of the ice cream canister...you know, where it's all icy an gooey n stuff!
Almost as good as when the paper market separates from phizz! Keep chillin dude~!
Sorry Joyful,
It's not like you think. It's not like I have a batphone of some sort to argue with whackjob conspiracy theorists that goes off when you perceive the mainstream story is losing. It's just with work and an infant to watch, I just don't have the free time to argue.
But yeah, when people like you want to claim this 19 year old is an innocent angel somehow set up by the Mossad but hey, to you guys, any story where people die by terrorists that doesn't end with jews in shackles means conspiracy. Peace out.
I hear you. I have actually made zero claim as to what this guy is or is not...I figure that would be the province of a trial by impartial jury.
oh...and 'jews in shackles'>>???...disturbing imagery...I much prefer sionist moneychangers in chains! World o difference.
Chuckle. I don't buy into MSM propaganda but..the conspiritards are like some kid with a big forehead kicking the back of your seat on a flight to Tampa. You try to be patient and enjoy your single serving meal, but eventually you just want to smack the little fuck.
yeah yeah -and you probably believe that Loyd Blankfein is doing God's work - now that was a real news item. I know it's true because CNBC told me so.
Plump choke you get a down vote for being a nut job. If you don't see some real problems with the official story your not paying attention.
just a few loose ends and i am convinced. like the fbi asking for help identifying somebody they already knew. also a little odd considering the boys were at home but they couldnt find them. just a few loose ends. and where is the video of them setting the bombs dowm. even gov patrick admits he has never seen it.
That is why they shot them... no need for pesky annoyances like trials and evidence.
Media conviction = victory.
To think we still mock the show trials of the Soviet Union in the '30s...
Transparency and accountability would satisfy 90% of the skeptics on Zerohedge.
Oh to live in a free country with a free press. How cool would that be...
What -it's not free? Did anyone force a handful of billionaires from 4 or 5 major zionist owned companies to buy up 98% of all the media in the US? Are you suggesting that we deprive them of the right to rig markets, bribe and own all our politicians and totally control the media - doesn't freedom mean they have the right to rape, pillage and steal from Americans? Get off your ass and make a few billions and you too can enjoy the fruits of this great country by robbing and stealing and olundering from the ignorant peasants.
Indeed. A common misperception the avg. person has, is that billionaires EARNED their money. Not at all. Stolen. Taken fraudulently (insider trading, financing both sides in wars, slavery, usury). Then placed in a 'Non Profit Foundation' to protect it from the Estate tax, then inherited by the next generation, who continue the plunder and fraud.
The wealth inequality that currently exists is at the heart of the ongoing recession, IMO. Its a much worse problem than even the income inequality situation.
you crazy dreamer you.
what does "Islamo-facist" mean?
appearently country is getting ready for "radical islamic or Islamo-facist or Khilafa idealogy".
http://s20.postimg.org/xdv7rmet9/541823_481237505264399_1858645376_n.png
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamofascism
Yes, I'm aware of that and was hoping my question would lead you there so that you can see for yourself that the word is in fact a meaningless compounding of two terms that are wholly unrelated.
In short, it is a propaganda phrase widely used by proponents of the "war on terror".
No. it is not meaningless.
Perhaps you are lacking in capability to understand?
Providing a link to Wikipedia, the notorious political spin machine, is just another piece of your propaganda.
How would you describe the two bombers then?
"How would you describe the two bombers then?"
One dead, one in serious but stable condition.
How would you describe the two bombers then?
How I would describe them is, of the moment, much less important than how I would describe you.
This commentator, who allegedly has been a member here for "3 years & 20 weeks"....made his first splashdown here first on the last day of January 2013.
Now he's back...on this thread...with a message for every Merikan who still needs know which way the wind blows....
it blows in from the east...with the mark of the sionist beast...and ask not whom that 'internet kill switch law' courtesy of your dual-citiiZened masters tolls for....
cause it tolls for thee.
edit: two(2) dual citiiZend khazarian overlords* have downticked this post -so far- ...."is that all you got George? Is that all you got"? -Muhammed Ali
*(or their mindcontrolled minions!-lol!)///we all (chechen)muzzies now!
Joyful you assclown - claiming I'm a shill who only started posting here this year. Fuck you. I've been posting here on a regular basis for the last three years. Here's a pertinent post I made a few days after Bin Laden was taken out and the usual suspects jumped on to claim it was all a consiracy and they guy was still alive:
I first came to Zerohedge a few weeks ago when it was performing an invaluable service by keeping the Fukushima catastrophe in the spotlight after the mainstream media, with its gnat-like attention span, had lost all interest.
But I now realize this site is mainly a hang out for consipiracy nutjobs, peddling every discredited conspiracy from NASA staging the moonlandings to the CIA bombing the World Trade Center.
Of course there is no point arguing with conspiracy theorists. It's like trying to argue with religioius fundamentalist. They just happen to know the 'real truth' and no rational discussion will change their mind. If a time machine existed that allowed these folks to actually go back and witness Barack Obama emerging from his mother's womb in Hawaii, they wouldn't believe their lying eyes - because the Elders of Zion have interfered with the space-time continuum, dontcha know.
The paradox, of course, is that consipiracy theorists usually ask us to accept an explanation that is vastly more improbable than the simple truth.
Osama Bin Laden was killed last week in a carefully planned and well executed operation by a US Navy SEAL team. Anyone who prefers to believe the Iranian line that the whole thing was staged and he actually died years ago is just plain stupid. Beavis and Butthead level stupid.
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/iran-claims-it-has-evidence-bin-laden-d...
Hey shitforbrains...
go look at your profile...note the date of the first recorded post...then take up your complaint with the management;
whose system may have inadvertantly exposed your sleeper status...
but it's all good...reading your purported post from way back when confirms my initial conclusion...
total sionista telaviv plant...now phuckoffndie.
edit: 20\1 yu upticked yurself...agin!
the internet is over-run with pentagon and tel aviv trolls these days. not hard to spot them however as their range is pretty limited, and generally not that bright.
some of the sockpuppets on George's threads are so dumb that if you write your comment with some insight into their mindbot mission there's no end of fun to be had with them...
this thread in particular has been a laugh riot!
Yep, I guess the smart, educated, informed users of the Net weren't recruited because... They have morals. These disinfo agents though... Not so much. They really must have bought the 'do it for your country' spiel, or they are hard up for money. The military has always recruited from the very poorest segment of society.
Well, for starters, I'd probably use words THAT ACTUALLY EXIST in order the limit the chances of looking like a complete fucking idiot. Which is something you clearly did not consider.
How about "axis of evil" to describe three countries that had essentially nothing to do with each other until we foisted that term upon them? That's a good Orwellian use of language that most Americans seemed happy to adopt.
We owe our Heroes a debt of gratitude. There they were, going door to door, conducting illegal searches, in full assault gear. (A thankless job performed in a very confining wardrobe)
It served as a great opportunity to educate the general public on the finer points of properly submitting to authority. Another plus. Our Heroes were also afforded valuable on the job training regarding how to handle lesser cooperative citizens.
In all, it doesn't really matter who did the bombing, or why. What's important is that this brought us all closer together as Americans.
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." George W. Bush —Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004
I knew it!! Barry is being framed so he doesn't get elected again in 2016.
Did he actually implicitly say 'we never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people'?
Yep. Bonesman (ie. Khazarian konspirator) Dubya was that honest, for a change....
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1870938_1870943_1870951,00.html
You mean "accused" two bombers? Oh nevermind
The presumption of innocence applies only in a courtroom.
Not in the court of public opinion...
Obama should just put him on his kill list. He's not supposed to kill citizens in America -no problem -just take him across the Mexican border and shoot him. I'm sure Eric Holder would give him an advisory opinion declaring this constitutional.
Plumplechook - I completely agree. There sure are a bunch of *!#&-tards on this website who don't believe CNN's evolving versions of what happened.
A couple of questions that come to mind:
Didn't the FBI say they found 5 other undetonated pressure cooker bombs? Where were they and how did they get there? Did these two guys carry 7 pressure cookers in two backpacks? Did they carry 7 backpacks?
How did the younger brother manage to escape police roadblocks and a bunch of police cars after the "bomb tossing police chase shoot out" where at least a dozen police were injured?
Just wondering.....
^^^this^^^
Mr. Alien, Please stop asking questions. You will be supplied all the questions and answers you need. Anything outside of what we supply is completely unnecessary. Regards, TPTB
Been asking this as well.
Are we really supposed to believe that a little punk kid, around 19 or so with supposedly no formal training, managed to elude hundreds of law enforcement occifers (with radios), dogs, helicopters w IR systems, etc...
Typically they sniff out their house or car, then let the dogs go to work.
I smell Bullshit.
me too
What was the explosive used in the bombs? Where were the materials bought? Where are the guns they supposedly used? I'm not so sure they aren't guilty either, but there's a lot of unanswered questions foe sure.