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Boston Bombers On Terrorist Watch Lists … Russia Contacted U.S. MULTIPLE TIMES Regarding Bombers
The Boston Globe reports:
Russian authorities alerted the US government not once but ``multiple’’ times over their concerns about Tamerlan Tsarnaev -- including a second time nearly a year after he was first interviewed by FBI agents in Boston -- raising new questions about whether the FBI should have focused more attention on the suspected Boston Marathon bomber, according to US senators briefed on the probe Tuesday.
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In a closed briefing on Tuesday, members of the Senate Intelligence Committee learned that Russia alerted the United States about Tsarnaev in ``multiple contacts’’ -- including ``at least once since October 2011,’’ said Richard Burr, a Republican of North Carolina, speaking with reporters afterward.
Senators said the briefing also revealed failures among federal agencies to share vital information about Tsarnaev, indicating, they said, that the US government still has not established a strong system to ``connect the dots’’ about would-be terrorists residing in America more than a decade after 9/11.
Similarly, foreign governments repeatedly warned the U.S. before 9/11. The chair of the 9/11 Commission said that the attack was preventable. It is thoroughly-documented that an attack such as 9/11 was entirely foreseeable. Specifically, Al Qaeda flying planes into the World Trade Center and Pentagon was something which American military and intelligence services – and our allies – knew could happen.
Several key employees for the defense department say that the government covered up their testimony about tracking lead hijacker Mohammed Atta before 9/11.
Reuters notes:
The name of one of the Boston Marathon bombing suspects, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, was listed on the U.S. government's highly classified central database of people it views as potential terrorists.
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Another list, the Terrorist Screening Database, is a declassified version of the highly classified TIDE with fewer details about terrorist suspects. One source said Tsarnaev was on this list, too.
After being put in the TIDE system, his name was entered in another database, this one maintained by the Homeland Security Department's Customs and Border Protection bureau which is used to screen people crossing U.S. land borders and entering at airports or by sea.
Moreover, Senator Saxby Chambliss - who served on the United States House of Representatives Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and chaired the House Intelligence Subcommittee on Terrorism and Homeland Security - told Channel 2 Action News from Atlanta that a law enforcement agency may have had information in advance of the Boston bombings that wasn't properly shared.
"There now appears that may have been some evidence that was obtained by one of the law enforcement agencies that did not get shared in a way that it could have been," Chambliss said.
(Was the evidence the reason why the bomb squad, bomb-sniffing dogs and a "drill" were present at the starting line of the Boston marathon?)
The Bush and Obama administrations implemented hardly any of the recommendations of the 9/11 Commission.
Both the Bush and Obama administrations have slashed funding for programs which would actually help prevent terror attacks.
Why have we lost our rights in the new "post-9/11 world" if the government can't keep us safe?
Trillions of dollars - and thousands of American lives - have been squandered on boondoggles and pork.
What the heck are we doing?
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Of course the authorities knew about this guy. Just like The Japanese at Pearl Harbor and the box cutter 12, these attacks are "waved on" by the authorities in the "best case" scenario, and outright lying, as in the case of the WMD attack on Iraq.
The problem is that when you have so many different government branches trying to rig covert actions, they can't get their stories straight and screw up even more, like Benghazi.
Interesting talk I had with a patient the other week. He was a very low level miltary army, but remarked (and this is very anecdotal I admit)
Upgrade of electronics gear for Bradleys ( but these were not going over seas-that was to be handled by drones) For domestic use?
Certain members of Army not being kept? ( Is there a selection process for "loyals" vs deselection for those who will not fire upon their own citizens) Rumors of questioning by higher up of members of the military on allegiance to Constitution.
FBI positions not being maintained or being allowed to be depleted through attrition. (One branch of "undesirable" or conflicting branch being winnowed in favor of a more authoritarian branch like DHS?) I need to revisit pre war German history where one branch of govt had to overthrow the other.
Was learning Russian.
The question I have concerns these so called FEMA camps: Are they being built up to quarantine/hold undesireables, OR are they being built up to act as storage /supply depots for government forces? A pretty powerful incentive to remain loyal to the government if they have the food and supplies while everything else is allowed to burn/descend/starve into chaos.
OK OK, so maybe I am over reaching on this, but never would have ever dreamed up scenario this 5 years ago. Maybe reading to many conspiracy theories and blogs, etc.
Of course they wanted the bombings to go ahead, that is why they did nothing to prevent it
Well, so much for lists...
Even S. Claus knows to check twice.
Does anyone here believe in the Alex Jones conspiracy on this? Too much crap for me to sort thru right now.
Could you please add over 100k dead in Iraq to that list? That was easily brushed under the rug as they keep us glued to fox news here at home bunch of brainwashed idiots.
Richard Burr, a Republican of North Carolina did not provide any detail or documentation. FBI denied his testimony. Later news said both CIA and FBI contacted by Russia..so technically this twice is "multiple"?
Bigger news is 450,000 suspects in the database make for a virtually useless phone book...at least to stop the Boston bombing in time... catch the guys before they later do a carjack / kidnap/ATM heist , kill one cop and wound another, and throw more bombs out the car window...and word is there are 10's of thousands of ' somewhat similar' political asylum visa families in USA....The bomber's parents seem either insane or temporarily out of touch with reality saying stuff like 'their sons were framed'. How many others are this looney?
I am curious to hear if Russia has arrested any Boston Bomber associates in Russia.
I am curious to hear if Russia has arrested any Boston Bomber associates in Russia.
You know there are associates in Russia ? You should pass that one then. Maybe the Russians could send an OMON team to check boats in Watertown as I understand the Boston Security Detail forgot to bother looking in the boat when they rousted people from their homes at gunpoint
Journalist? No maybe "JORNOLIST" GW. You are spraying around the official story--- that the brothers actually did the "bombing". Why did they zero in on these 2 in the first place? Because they were carrying backpacks? There were backpacks being carried everywhere, and pics everywhere. Where is the pic of one of them putting a BLACK backpack down? You are still spraying the official story that this was an actual terror attack, that could have been "stopped" because we were "warned", while making sure to blame Bush (and Obama).
Now that they have the younger bro in custody, they will continue to embellish the story that he has supposedly "told" the police, without mirandization (which makes it all inadmissable, since he is a US Citizen--- but they make up the "enemy combatant" meme to get around that--- bacause when the rules stop the game they just change the rules). Of course he will be deemed mentally unstable and unable to speak, and locked away.
Journalist? Puleeeeeeze!!!!!
You still refuse to even address the fact that Obama is a Usurper, which is the basis of all--- there is no law when the President, who is the executor of the laws, is an illegal entity. The fish rots from the head down. Much of this is a distraction from the fact that all the "terror" is a distraction from that fact, and Obama, the domestic enemy, can ride in with his white hat to protect us from the Muslims he already said he will stand with. He just gave Billions and Jets to the Muslim Bros in Egypt for god sake! Of cousre it was supposed to be the Tea Partiers and "right wingers" but that story blew up early, so the Islamic Jihad story was falen back on.
Of course they did. How you going to create a false flag in public unless you know the morons that are going to do it. What the hell do you think the military contractors were doing there with their geiger counters. They were checking to see that they weren't going to use nuke materials just be chance. If not then green light the bombers.
They are banksters. That's what banksters do.
The US is no different than Libya now. We're under globalist destabilization operations.
True, but I doubt that many people know about the PNAC and the thrust for the NWO, least of all GW apparently ... like a babe in the woods.
Why are you talking about Bush? Obumer has been president for the past 5 years - enough of the blame Bush garbage, but since you brought it up there were NO successful attacks on Bush's watch after 9-11.
Ah but the PNAC project has been in progress since the 1990s.
Do you seriously imagine that any president could be elected without PNAC/Wall Str/AIPAC say so?
Do you still seriously believe 'sides' (of any substance) in mainstream politics ... or the MSM?
PNAC =
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century
AIPAC =
http://www.aipac.org/
I didn't know......
Good to know that at least one person checked my references.
Being on the terror watch list just makes them better patsies. There is credibility that they might have done it ... even if they were just set up by the FBI.
Plus the younger one has admitted to the crime and he's said "he and his brother acted alone without help from anyone." doesn't get any better if you think the people of Massachusetts really aren't paying attention/don't care (something I don't believe as well.) the idea that a "patsy" would know "the plan" is obviously a contradiction in terms. So which is it? Were they patsies or masterminds folks?
GW ... I thought you said that the Goberment was behind the bombings and the Chechen's were just dups?
I'm not sure. I am reporting holes in the official narrative, and helping to get to the true facts ... whatever they may be.
That's called j-o-u-r-n-a-l-i-s-m
Due respect George, but you are still reporting just info from the government and the MSM, whatever the discrepancies ... and there are many, though all centred around a basic narrative that the perps are external.
Investigative journalism would open your eyes to other possbilities.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/The-MSM-s-Major-Failure-to-by-Rob-Kall-130424-415.html
Or with the 9/11 inside job http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/bbc_wtc7_videos.html?q=bbc_wtc7_videos.html
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you seem to sentimentally hark back to when George Washington and other Founders had principles and might not have staged "false flags", but over two centuries have passed and NOTHING is 1776.
Now there is a global Washington Empire and everything is being done to keep it and the petro-dollar intact, including waging perpetual war and scaring the US population into supporting these wars ... ultimately for the banksters, Wall Str and the City of London.
"The true facts" you can easily investigate ... start by Googling PNAC.
I find it hard to believe how you can write at great length - just quoting MSM reports - and expect to arrive at "the true facts".
Über FAIL.
The Tzar bros did NOT set off the "bomb" - which was not even a bomb, it was a flash-bang like the swat teams use: loud, bright, smoky, but generally nondestructive. This ENTIRE thing is a hoax, using crisis actors just like Sandy Hook. See the last few posts at http://www.labvirus.com for all the details.
The latest footage shows straight up, no blood after the explosion, chairs right there standing perfectly as arranged, and people around pouring out fake blood and fitting prosthetic fake injuries on an afghanistan war vet who lost his legs years ago.
Fucking Brainwashed Imbeciles, thats who is behind this, and the BDP.
Fuckin douchebags.
In order to prove your theory, I'm going to pay for your trip to Boston. You can go into all the hospitals and tell those being treated they are just stage actors, there was no bomb, no damage, no deaths, no pain. Bostonians are very social types. Big damn hearts. Once you tell the victims they can all stand up and just walk home, they'll probably let you toss out the first ball at a Red Sox game, and the 35,000 in attendance will undoubtedly give you a standing ovation.
Contact Tyler with your bank data and I'll wire the funds. You got the cojones to do that and I'll pay. I'll even make arrangements for you to get on TV, both local and nationwide, with your name, address and your local Boston hotel broadcast, just so the grateful citizens can come and thank you personally. You'll probably replace St. Patrick in the hearts of the populace.
Ef'ing cesspool Zerohedge has become, where the specie's losers are doing the backstroke amongst the feces. The New Dark Ages is here, or at least it is trying to raise its head. The more the loons take over this site, the more I'm actually starting to like Jamie, Lloyd, Timmy...heck, even Jon. I might even go out and buy one of Cramer's books. It took a lot for that to happen.
"Flashman".. agreed. Its been hijacked a load of gold bugs and conspiracy theorists.. Whilst it is obvious govts wants to control us.. some of the stuff spouted on here is simply utter drivel.
Spot on ++++
I don't know what to say I'm getting more positive about the Russians every day.
I think Barak should apologize to them for not listening and being a doofus.
I might as well be blunt GW, because you still believe that 19 box cutter-wielding non-pilots carried out 9/11, controlled by a very ill Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan.
http://www.ae911truth.org/en/home.html
Now as for this Boston incident? How about looking around for more information and asking yourself why the "official story" keeps changing?
Sir, you have no idea what I believe. I write different things for different audiences.
You are right to attack what you are reading as being too tame. But you should back up your attacks with facts.
In other words, don't be lazy and attack me without providing links. Provide real links educating people where I am not going far enough.
I HAVE backed up with links at least.
Sure you write different things for different audiences, that much is patently obvious, i.e. you hedge your bets both ways.
Like the Vicar of Bray .., "No matter which king may reign, I'll still be the Vicar of Bray Sir."
You will always come clean for the authorities, because you have never said or done anything out of line, e.g.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/bbc_wtc7_videos.html?q=bbc_wtc7_videos.html
http://www.veteranstoday.com/
http://www.globalresearch.ca/
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/bbc_wtc7_videos.html?q=bbc_wtc7_videos.html
http://www.ae911truth.org/en/home.html
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/
How lazy is that?
I have been engaged for ten years, whilst you simply go along with what your MSM told you!
I am reminded of Pete Seeger, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VucczIg98Gw
Hey GW, you fit the bill and also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIFmaFTLrng
Look at this photo of the younger brother. Maybe his supposed confession, without Miranda Rights, should be considered under-duress, in order to close the case in America's eyes:
http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/whitepack.jpg
If you look at the time stamp, he didn't had time to switch bags or put a bomb in it.
BOSTON BOMBER BECOMING BORING...
the 9/11 act is preventable and us intelligence is known for their work but dont know , why they let it happened
Intraday Tips
Some people might say, so what does the Boston Bombing have to do with the markets, "I have to get busy trying to make money again, I don't have time for the endless discussion".
You can't have a free market, or an UN-captured stock market, when lies and deceptions are being told at the highest levels on many other comparably important topics. Today, we are aware of what's going on in the Gold and Silver markets, but it's not isolated to those. Deceiving us about and manipulating our markets and those around the world, for profit, power, and favoring certain "chosen" companies that play ball against others that don't, making deals behind our backs, just fits into the scheme of what's happening everywhere.
Just look at what they did with the telecom companies a few years back and those "cast in stone FISA Regulations" against giving up peoples privacy and allowing the government to spy illegally.
Those that spied illegally for the government were spared prosecution, and the one company that obeyed the law and honored citizens rights, had the law changed retroactively and were prosecuted. That was nearly a decade ago, they have gotten much more brazen since. (And now we have the Boston Bombing set-up, as a result of getting away with all the other shit).
So, the one company (in the Telecom spying scandal) that was honest and wouldn't go along, had the President of the company charged with a trumped-up charge and imprisoned, and the company and stockholders suffered greatly. That's how it works.
Go invest in the U.S. markets, the freest and safest in the world. But know they are crooked to the core. It's NOT designed for the shareholders, despite what they claim about looking out for the shareholders interest. That's the last thing they care about, it's for the people at the top and rigged situations they can leverage and capitalize on that you will never know about, and from which you'll never see a dime.
They use the company as a pivot point, to profit from, to spin other deals off of, to intimidate other competitors and get payoff's.
This is why what happens here in Boston and the handling of Marathon Bombers case is so important to the markets and everything else in America, and the incident happened on the day the American Revolution began. It is NOT isolated but an integral part of the markets dynamics. If they get away with this, there will be others and they'll be more blatant and in your face.
So here is some interesting and pertinent news to know about:
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"Official FBI Affidavit OMITS BLACK BACKPACKSThat's right - in the original FBI reports they talked all about how both bombs were in black back packs. But since the patsy had an obvious white backpack, the final affidavit mentions nothing about the color of the back packs.
I suppose they are all going to try to instill amnesia to the topic, which clearly shows our patsy walking along with a WHITE backpack, in the EXACT SAME VIDEO THEY USED TO INCRIMINATE HIM BECAUSE HE HAD A BACK PACK, while saying in that same report that both bomb packs were BLACK. In the final report the bags are called knapsacks, which complicates searches for the topic so keep that in mind when using the find function.
America is a failed state - you cannot have things like this happening in a society that has long to live. Either we fix this problem by using direct physical force or America is going bye bye, and from this point on we cannot allow the government a monopoly on physical force. They are thrilled when we merely cry on a lawn in protest, because the correct response to that is no response, if you are not going to stand up and fix this with direct physical force - with more than just a phone call or letter you are as responsible for the failure of your country as the people taking direct physical action to destroy it.
I am sitting here watching the nation shred right in front of me, and it seems people have been pacified to such an extent that they are just going to allow it all to happen. It seems like the do nothing but cry to fix things brainwashing has really taken hold, if you think calling your senator, casting a rigged vote, or sitting on a public lawn doing nothing but waving signs and shouting will do anything useful, you are a slow learner. What of substance has that accomplished so far? Tyrants back down when facing only ONE THING - FEAR OF DIRECT PHYSICAL CONSEQUENCE.
Look at the time stamp on the video frame. HOW DID OUR PATSY BUY A BLACK BACK PACK AND STUFF IT WITH A BOMB WITH SO LITTLE TIME REMAINING? "
By: jimstonefreelance
Very good post! ++++
Why GW is so wedded to the vanishing credibility of the Government and its agencies is beyond me!?
From Washington Post :
Officials: Boston suspect had no firearm when barrage of bullets hit hiding place
"The FBI, however, declined to discuss what triggered the gunfire."
His being alive is what triggered the gunfire. Dead men tell no tales except what the FBI wants 'em too.
Patsy's lucky they didn't "Dorner" him. "We don't know how the boat caught fire." hujel
Also makes one wonder how he pulled off that suicide attempt that damaged his neck.
Now he's drugged up, can't talk and is spilling the beans LOL
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/24/armed-and-dangerous-becks-lat...
George, why did you not include this information?
http://www.jta.org/news/article/2013/04/23/3125011/tamerlan-tsarnaev-sought-protocols-copy-report
And then there is this.
How about the CIA personally escorting the underwear bomber onto the plane after he was rejected by airport security? That was caught on video then swept under the rug
Now we know the main reason the "no-fly" list (oppression) is secret: to allow them change it to fit the latest political winds.
As for me, I wonder when they will want to team up with free-thinking, libertarian, Constitutionalists in taking down some overseas government of inconvenience and enable me to fly again?! hujel
I voted you up.
He also allegedly visited the White House on numerous occassions:
http://conservativeread.com/suspected-saudi-terrorist-abdul-rahman-ali-a...
It's called the government protection circle-jerk.
Those whose supposed self-declared "mission" is to protect us from bad elements in society begin to target us instead for wealth extraction while the other real criminals are treated lightly because they serve in increasing dependency on them the government "protection" racket.
Steal a billion $ from your clients' accounts, nothing, kill the clerk at 7-11, 3-years, rolling stop, $330, DWI, $5,000 and 3-years in the system...
And take notice that they use our stolen wealth (taxes) to fund their active targeting of us via fines, etc. Perverse.
hujel
Homeland Security director Mr Napolitano did promise us that there would be more terror attacks if DHS budget was cut due to the sequester.
A general musing and not at all a criticism:
The problem with conspiracy theorists vs. those who throw rocks at conspiracy theorists is they are both correct. Over time, everything you know about conspiracies is evidenced, but if you try to shoehorn everything you know into each incident, you come off looking like a crackpot.
On the other hand, the rock throwers who label anyone who question the MSM story of the day as some sort of crazy are guilty of the same crime. They believe that just because one part of your argument is weak, the whole argument can be ignored.
On balance, I'd rather be known as a crazy conspiracy guy, but it's my lack of restraint that allows the lying scum and the ignorant fool to label me as crazy. When we are right, we don't need the kitchen sink.
"conspiracy theory" is a meme created by CIA who added "theory" after the word "conspiracy" to embed doubt.
conspiracy only takes two people, its not theory, thats a fact. evidence proving so is again fact not theory.
I prefer to call myself an AGENDA ANALYST
I like your view better.
Conspiracies are merely people acting in their own self interest. Because people almost always act in their own self interest, we will always be surrounded by conspiracies. (And it's not in the self interest of those currently benefitting from conspiracy to have the light of day shown on them, so they call us names and attempt to marginalize us in the eyes of their victims.)
The most important thing about conspiracy theories is that they reinforce the fact that those in government have the incentive to do and are capable of anything no matter how blatantly evil.
Don't believe they shot off JFK's head to protect their agenda, that's cool, but believe that they couldn't and wouldn't, not so cool.
Don't believe that they killed JFK, Jr., that's OK. However, believing that they accidentally searched the wrong area 100 or so miles away in the ocean and not the Sound is not OK.
Believe that Tim McVeigh did OKC. No problem. Disregard as a miracle and coincidence that no FBI or ATF agents were in the office at 9 in the morning on a work day and none were killed or hurt and I would have to say that you may have a problem. hujel
Excellent description of the delemma many truth seekers ponder every day. Am I crazy for just wanting the truth when something seems fishy? When did seeking answers to simple questions become unAmerican?
The FBI (Federal Bureau of Invention) suffers from "not invented here" syndrome.
Or it could be a case of "why interdict those we can use for our purposes." hujel
The FBI provided the bombs used in the 1993 WTC attack. That was in official court documents during the trial. Their excuse was they were trying to build a case and the bombs got away from them