Boston Bombers On Terrorist Watch Lists … Russia Contacted U.S. MULTIPLE TIMES Regarding Bombers

The Boston Globe reports:

Russian authorities alerted the US government not once but ``multiple’’ times over their concerns about Tamerlan Tsarnaev -- including a second time nearly a year after he was first interviewed by FBI agents in Boston -- raising new questions about whether the FBI should have focused more attention on the suspected Boston Marathon bomber, according to US senators briefed on the probe Tuesday.

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In a closed briefing on Tuesday, members of the Senate Intelligence Committee learned that Russia alerted the United States about Tsarnaev in ``multiple contacts’’ -- including ``at least once since October 2011,’’ said Richard Burr, a Republican of North Carolina, speaking with reporters afterward.

Senators said the briefing also revealed failures among federal agencies to share vital information about Tsarnaev, indicating, they said, that the US government still has not established a strong system to ``connect the dots’’ about would-be terrorists residing in America more than a decade after 9/11.

Similarly, foreign governments repeatedly warned the U.S. before 9/11.  The chair of the 9/11 Commission said that the attack was preventable.  It is thoroughly-documented that an attack such as 9/11 was entirely foreseeable.  Specifically, Al Qaeda flying planes into the World Trade Center and Pentagon was something which American military and intelligence services – and our allies – knew could happen.

Several key employees for the defense department say that the government covered up their testimony about tracking lead hijacker Mohammed Atta before 9/11.

Reuters notes:

The name of one of the Boston Marathon bombing suspects, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, was listed on the U.S. government's highly classified central database of people it views as potential terrorists.

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Another list, the Terrorist Screening Database, is a declassified version of the highly classified TIDE with fewer details about terrorist suspects. One source said Tsarnaev was on this list, too.

After being put in the TIDE system, his name was entered in another database, this one maintained by the Homeland Security Department's Customs and Border Protection bureau which is used to screen people crossing U.S. land borders and entering at airports or by sea.

Moreover, Senator Saxby Chambliss - who served on the United States House of Representatives Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and chaired the House Intelligence Subcommittee on Terrorism and Homeland Security - told Channel 2 Action News from Atlanta that a law enforcement agency may have had information in advance of the Boston bombings that wasn't properly shared.

"There now appears that may have been some evidence that was obtained by one of the law enforcement agencies that did not get shared in a way that it could have been," Chambliss said.

(Was the evidence the reason why the bomb squad, bomb-sniffing dogs and a "drill" were present at the starting line of the Boston marathon?)

The Bush and Obama administrations implemented hardly any of the recommendations of the 9/11 Commission.

Both the Bush and Obama administrations have slashed funding for programs which would actually help prevent terror attacks.

Why have we lost our rights in the new "post-9/11 world" if the government can't keep us safe?

Trillions of dollars - and thousands of American lives - have been squandered on boondoggles and pork.

What the heck are we doing?

Comments

[Grinder74]

315,736,000!!!

[Dewey Cheatum Howe]

This gets even better concerning the Saudi kid.

First you have this look at the pictures in the article

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/04/saudi-person-of-interest-is...?

HAMZA IS KNOWN AS THE “CROWN PRINCE OF TERROR,” AND VOWED REVENGE VS. USA.

HAMZA IS KNOWN TO BE “THE SPITTING IMAGE OF HIS FATHER, OSAMA BIN LADEN.” “SAUDI STUDENT” WAS TACKLED FLEEING BOSTON MARATHON, THEN HOSPITALIZED WITH “SEVERE HAND BURNS AND SHRAPNEL IN BACKSIDE OF LEG.”   Hamza is the son of Khairiah Sabar of Saudi Arabia, one of Bin Laden’s three wives who were living in the Abbottabad compound.^[11] Interrogation of the surviving wives of Osama Bin Laden by Pakistani intelligence after the raid on the Abbottabad revealed Hamza was the only person missing. He was not among those killed or injured. The raid conducted by the SEAL team was thorough: infrared technology, as well as ground troops, remained confident nobody inside the compound had escaped. There were no hidden exit tunnels from the compound.^[12][13] In a letter confiscated in the raid, written by bin Laden and addressed to his “Chief of Staff” Atiyah Abd al-Rahman, bin Laden mentions his desire that Hamza would be educated in Qatar as a religious scholar so that he could “refute the wrong and the suspicions raised around Jihad.”^[14] The same letter revealed that Hamza did not escape the raid because he was not even present in Abbottabad.^[15][16] Letters from the compound also confirmed that Osama was grooming Hamza to be his heir apparent following the death of Hamza’s older brother Saad in a 2009 US drone strike.^[17][18] The congressional source told TheBlaze it was unclear as to why representatives from Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) would be unaware of this information. Earlier on Thursday, an official with ICE said it was “categorically false” that Alharbi had ever been considered for deportation.   The congressional source, however, said the information sent to Congress showed that a file was created on “Abdul Rahman Ali Al Harby” at 4 p.m. on Tuesday by an official with the National Targeting Center, a counterterrorism sub-agency of U.S. Customs and Border Protection and the Department of Homeland Security. The file stated that the individual is “linked to the Boston bombing” and was to be processed for revocation of his visa based on national security grounds, the congressional source revealed. This blows me away.  He certaintly looks like Hamza bin laden.  Hamza is the son of Khairiah Sabar of Saudi Arabia, one of Bin Laden’s three wives who were living in the Abbottabad compound. Interrogation of the surviving wives of Osama Bin Laden by Pakistani intelligence after the raid on the Abbottabad revealed Hamza was the only person missing. He was not among those killed or injured.  If true, this is huge!!!

[Dewey Cheatum Howe]

Here is even more to go with this.Includes photos of his ICE file with dates, cross check them with the white house visitor records.......

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/24/armed-and-dangerous-becks-lat...

For the past week, Glenn Beck has been investigating a Saudi national once identified as a “person of interest” in the Boston Marathon bombing.  The story has taken a number of alarming twists and turns, but on his radio program Wednesday, Beck released some of the most interesting information yet.

But first, here are a few background points on how the case developed:

• A Saudi national originally identified as a “person of interest” in the Boston Marathon bombing was set to be deported under section 212, 3B — “Security and related grounds” — “Terrorist activities” after the bombing on April 15
• TheBlaze received word that the government may not deport the Saudi national — identified as Abdul Rahman Ali Alharbi — as the story gained traction on April 18.
• Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano refused to answer questions on the subject by Rep. Jeff Duncan (R-SC) on Capitol Hill on April 18, saying the inquiry was “so full of misstatements and misapprehension that it’s just not worthy of an answer.”
• An ICE official said April 18 that a different Saudi national is in custody, but that he is “in no way” connected to the bombings.
• Key congressmen of the Committee on Homeland Security request a classified briefing with Napolitano on April 22
• New info provided to TheBlaze reveals Alharbi’s file was altered on the evening of April 17 to disassociate him from the initial charges
• Sources say April 22 that the Saudi’s student visa specifically allows him to go to school in Findlay, Ohio, though he appears to have an apartment in Boston, Mass. A DHS official told TheBlaze Alharbi properly transferred his student visa to a school in Massachusetts.
• TheBlaze sources reveal April 22 that Alharbi was put on a terror watchlist after the bombing, and Napolitano confirmed on April 23 that he was briefly on a “watchlist”

On his radio program, Beck began with an overview of how the case unfolded, noting that Alharbi has rapidly gone from “person of interest, to witness, to victim, to nobody.”

Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano even said yesterday that Alharbi was just “in the wrong place at the wrong time” and was “never a subject,” after ridiculing inquiries into the matter last week.

But Wednesday, Beck presented new information after a Blaze source directly read the original event file, and multiple government sources with knowledge of the case and files contributed their knowledge.

Napolitano could serve “jail time for perjury,” Beck declared, and she will be “the first to fall.”

Here are a couple of new points, as Beck related them:

• The event file created for Abdul Rahman Ali Alharbi indicated he was “armed and dangerous”
• Alharbi was admitted into the country under a “special advisory option,” which is usually reserved for visiting politicians, VIPs, or journalists.  The event file cover page indicates he was granted his status without full vetting.
• One of the first excuses given by law enforcement when confronted about Alharbi’s pending deportation was an expired visa.  But according to the event file, his visa is good until 11-NOV-2016.
• The event file indicates he entered the U.S. on 08/28/12 in Boston, MA but says he is a student at the University of Findlay, in Findlay, Ohio.  He has an apartment in Boston, and doesn’t seem to have been a full-time student in Ohio.
• When a file is created in the system, the author(s) are notified via email when it is accessed and given the email address of the person accessing, so there is a record within the government data system of who was there.  It was amended to remove the deportation reference, then someone later went in and tried to destroy both the original event file and an amended versions.  We won’t say who at this time, but copies have already been made.
•  The original event file was reviewed and approved by two high level agents – Chief Watch Commander Maimbourg and Watch Commander Mayfield.

Here is the text of the cover of the event file, which reveals still more:

Subject,

ALHARBI, ABDULRAHMAN ALI E

DOB 03/12/1993

COC SAUDI ARABIA

Subject is an exact match to NO FLY TPN# 1037506192. Derogatory information reviewed by W/C Mayfield and CW/C Maimbourg was found to be sufficient to request Visa revocation. NTC-P is requesting revocation of Foil# e3139541. Subject is inadmissible to the U.S. under INA 212(a)(3)(B)(i)(II). SAO was not completed prior to Visa issuance. Subject is currently in the United States, admitted F1 student, at Boston POE on 08/28/2012. Subject is a student at THE UNIVERSITY OF FINDLAY, 1000 NORTH MAIN STREET FINDLAY, OHIO 45840-3695. Subject has One (1) prior event #1648067, Fins promoted, NT record in place, No scheduled found at this time.  [Emphasis added]

Beck explained: “Derogatory information reviewed...That means, we have been presented bad information…and it was reviewed, and found to be sufficient.  Subject has One (1) prior event...[That means] when they opened this when he was at the hospital, they found he’s already in the system.”

“A 212, 3B [is] the biggest warning we can put on anybody,” Beck explained for those unfamiliar with the term.  “You do not put people’s name on there easily…this is a terrorist designation, and there is a panel of agencies that you have to go and make your case to.  It’s not like you’re standing in the hospital room and they say: ‘Make him a 212,3B.’   And if they ?are, they’re abusing their power….It is so rare that somebody’s name is taken off outside of death, that none of ours sources can tell us that it’s ever happened.  It is laughable what Janet Napolitano said yesterday.”

Certainly, a litany of questions remain.

Was Alharbi considered “armed and dangerous” before the Boston bombing, or at it?  Was it related to something they found at his apartment?  Was his prior “event” from the days prior, at the bombing, or was it from an earlier period in his life?

Moreover, how was he admitted into the country under a “special advisory option?”  How many students receive that privilege, particularly without proper security clearance?

In Beck’s estimation, the entire situation at the least amounts to an alarming lack of transparency, and at the worst, an abuse of power and cover-up.

“This is not about this one guy,” Beck noted, “but by the way — where is this extraordinarily dangerous man?  Ask that question, you’re not going to like the answer.”

“That’s what TheBlaze is releasing today,” he continued.  “Once they explain away all of this, if you want to continue to discredit me, you will discredit yourself but more importantly, you will put the citizens of this country at stake.”

[Dewey Cheatum Howe]

Even more here are pictures with Michelle Obama visiting this same kid in that Boston hospital while the FBI considered him a potential suspect.

Was she just in town visiting? This is before the same Saudi official first met with Kerry then later Obama. She is in on the coverup on this kid.

http://i.imgur.com/Z3xqfqp.jpg

[Jim in MN]

You can thank us here on ZH for original research from time to time.  Here you go--the 'University of Findlay' (where this person was supposedly authorized to go while in the USA) was founded by a specific evangelical Christian group that is also headquartered in Findlay (OH).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Findlay

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churches_of_God_General_Conference_%28Wineb...

"The CGGC might best be described as an Evangelical Bible church . . ."

[tip e. canoe]

excellent find jim///very sam spade of you

someone local needs to take a trip to findlay and see if anyone remembers this kid.

[Stoploss]

He was the one caught on video running away with half of his KAHKI pants blown off as well as his BLACK SHIRT.

[Dewey Cheatum Howe]

Yep this kid is high level when you put the sequence of events together there is no other conclusion you can logically draw. Whether he is Osama's son here under an alias is still to be definitely proven but the strings pulled for this kid screams he is extremely important to highest levels of people in the US and Saudi government. The question that needs to be answered is why. You answer that the oreo is getting dragged out of the white house by the military in handcuffs and most likely will be tried for treason.

[john39]

mossad.  seems fairly obvious.

[Grinder74]

You do know Mossad is Israeli right?

[Freddie]

You do know those two countries are allies but they keep it very quiet.  They have the biggest pull in DC.

[Dewey Cheatum Howe]

This kid without a doubt is blood related to a very important Saudi family, either the royal family or a family with extremely close ties to the royal family anyone with half a brain can piece that much together with the information out there, that has nothing to do with joos or Israel. The only conclusion that makes sense is the kid is a Bin Laden, a family that is still extremely important in Saudi Arabia but are persona non gratas since 9/11 in the Western World. We know how close the oreo house is with the Saudis in general.

[Dewey Cheatum Howe]

Guess who has been to the white house on more than one occasion, you guessed it. Check the records yourselves under UIN numbers U61728, U50450 and U49445.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/disclosures/visitor-records

You can download the .csv files also of the visitor records there.

Here is a screenshot of the records.

http://i.imgur.com/mqO22d6.jpg

[dogbreath]

Who do you work for george, the gubbermint??   I think you are a disinfo agent

https://buelahman.wordpress.com/2013/04/20/are-you-just-a-believer-or-do-you-think/

[George Washington]

Sibel Edmonds: FBI May Have Tried to RECRUIT Boston Bombers

[Wakanda]

Fake blood, fake prosthetics, and crisis actors make it a bombing?  Really?

I blow off 100X more explosives in my backyard fireworks.

Someone must really be yanking hard on "George Washington's" chain to get him on board for this farce.

'sup George?

Are you a tool?

[New_Meat]

" 'sup George? Are you a tool?"

We all actually know that answer, don't we.

Although we do, with all caution, wish that our very own GW will get over his BDS and other this 'n this and actually work to do some investigative blogisism.

'cuz even the Brits are well ahead of him on the Watertown events.

- Ned

[Wakanda]

"We all actually know that answer, don't we."

"...our very own GW..."

Really Ned?  Fawn much?

[UGrev]

You know what I like to play?  match the username to the spook. So many forums, so many cloaks-n-dagger dicks.. 

[Grinder74]

OK, why don't you link a youtube video of you standing right next to the last pre$$ure c00ker you blew up.

[Wakanda]

LMAO!  And that will fix the lousy acting, the fawning media, the cowardly Beantowners cheering martial law?

Flash powder and actors FiSHeS - the rest is spin.

[dogbreath]

white noise

[dick cheneys ghost]

Can anyone explain to me why the Russian Mafia was targeted/arrested by the FBI on Tuesday 04/16/2013 the day after the Boston bombing?

[New_Meat]

"Can anyone explain to me..."

Nyet, Tovarich.

- Ned

[dick cheneys ghost]

If anyone cares to expore a possible Russian Mafia connection to the Boston Bombings, consider what happened on Tuesday, the day after the bombs went off.....

http://www.thestandard.com.hk/breaking_news_detail.asp?id=34964&icid=4&d...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardbehar/2013/04/16/billionaire-helly-na...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardbehar/2013/04/20/scenes-from-an-arrai...

One month ago (during the Cyprus bail-ins) on these here ZH pages we were talking about Russian hot money and how ruthless the Russian Mafia is. These kids were from Russia and it is entirely possible that they flipped and were working with the Russian Mafia.

a few excerpts from the first article.......

''individuals “demonstrate the scope and reach of Russian organized crime.''
He added: “The defendants are alleged to have handled untold millions in illegal wagers placed by millionaires and billionaires, laundered millions, and in some cases are themselves multimillionaires. Crime pays only until you are arrested and prosecuted.''

''Prosecutors alleged proceeds were laundered through shell companies in Cyprus and in the United States by a criminal enterprise with strong ties to Russia and Ukraine.
Assistant US Attorney Harris Fischman told a US magistrate judge in Manhattan that Vadim Trincher, 52, directed much of the international racketeering enterprise from his US$5 million apartment at Trump Tower.''

the forbes article names the US celebraties who were involved.....Ben Affleck, Matt Damon, Leo Decaprio, Alex Rodrieguz..... 

[john39]

when you speak of the russian mafia, it might help to recall that a huge component of the Russia mafia belongs to a certain minority, which also operates a small country in the ME that is perpetually causing problems around the world.

[Freddie]

The Chechen Mafia are mostly the other type of ME people aka muslims.  Different sides of the same coin.

[Freddie]

Money laundering for liberal actors (oddly connected to Boston) and one baseball player who gets a free pass on steroid use.  Isn't Affleck a degenerate gambler with Tobey McGuire and a few others?

[JOYFUL]

What the heck are we doing...

watching the 'controlled' demolition of a nation. Those who refuse to understand that there are many more intended than unintended consequences to the seemingly insane policy of bludgeoning the rest of the world into submission or revolt, have not yet grasped that the collapse of the culture and the economy are purposeful policy objectives of a well hidden clique of those who's motives are but poorly understood.

The abject failure, incompetence, and complicity of all of these agencies of state power are not accidental either. It's been a long process of dragging good and dedicated people out of positions of authority, and replacing them with controllable minions who can both front for the higher ups and be made expendable when necessary.

[DaveyJones]

I'm having some serious deja vu

when do we hear from the teacher at the bomb making class telling us these boys could not even errr  land a cessna

there is a rapidly growing trend here that scares the shit out of me as a constitutional scholar wannabe. They are getting more and more blatant. Blatant that they won't prosecute the powerful, blatant that they don't care about your health, blatant that corporations are super citizens and the prize goes to the highest bidder, baltant that congressional super commitees can run the country. blatant that they can search anything, hold you for anything, based on anything, for any amount of time and blatant that the president can decide to kill you anywhere for anything. I know a lot of this shit has existed in the shadows forever but the fact that they are now blatant scares the shit out of me.

What kind of country am I handing to my children. I'm ashamed   

[NYMom]

Twelve years since 9-11 and the pieces in that puzzle still don't fit. TWELVE years!
In the past 24 months, we have had Aurora, Sandy Hook, Boston, Texas, Benghazi, Fast and Furious, Cyprus, MF Global, to name a few.
How do we keep up at this pace - disseminate fact from fiction, preserve our constitution, our rights??

[New_Meat]

"What kind of country am I handing to my children. I'm ashamed"

Dude, no shame on your part, except if you are directly responsible.  C'ain't be ashamed of what u didn't do.  On the other hand...

If you feel ashamed, then you might wish to ausuage that shame (or live with it).

Moi?  I'm fighting peacefully v. the current direction.

Worth looking into how to do the same in the way that you can support.  Many ways to make sure that your children can get into a better future.

Unlike others, and with gentle comment, I suggest for your consideration: teach them Liberty, teach them to garden, teach them wo depend upon themselves, don't depend upon outsiders who you don't know to influence them excessively, ...

good luck.

- Ned

[Grinder74]

Hey, it's not all bad.  At least Jon Corzine is in jail...oh wait.

[YHC-FTSE]

+1 You and me both brother. 

We live literally in a world where 7 Sigma events (Incredibly rare for those who are wondering) occur without question. I often ask myself, who is worse? The average guy unaware of what is going on, or someone like me who can see but does nothing about it. And I often feel guilty about the legacy I am leaving. 

All I can do is gripe a little and live a life as decently as possible but I know that is not enough. 

[tip e. canoe]

"As they have dared, so shall I dare. Dare to tell the truth, as I have pledged to tell it, in full, since the normal channels of justice have failed to do so. My duty is to speak out; I do not wish to be an accomplice in this travesty. My nights would otherwise be haunted by the spectre of the innocent man, far away, suffering the most horrible of tortures for a crime he did not commit... - zola

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-04-24/boston-bombers-terrorist-watch-lists-%E2%80%A6-russia-contacted-us-mulitiple-times-re#comment-3494848

[NotApplicable]

I don't feel any guilt as I don't hide from my conscience, nor the cognitive dissonance that surrounds us all.

Most importanly though, I DO NOT support the beast willingly, having given up on the incoherence of "political solutions."

[Radical Marijuana]

I agreed with this line of replies under Joyful's comment. After worrying about this more than 8 sigma trend since the dilemmas from the development of weapons of mass destruction impressed themselves on my budding teenage mind, I still have not been able to think of any practical solutions to the runaway social insanities that we are watching careen out of control at an exponential rate ...

The established systems are based on lies backed by violence, automatically getting worse, faster. They deliberately ignore evidence and logic, because they can continue to back up their frauds with force. HOWEVER, it is impossile, or NotApplicable, to come up with any "political solutions." In the past it was possible to try to become better at being dishonest, and backing that up with violence, to perhaps have a successful revolution to overthrow the tyranny ... BUT, now, any resistance quickly leads to the impossible problems of how to defeat systems that have weapons of mass destruction ???  ... Nobody that I am aware of has come up with any feasible way to "win" a war, nor revolution, after the development of weapons of mass destruction. The only way to "win" is not to start those ... MEANWHILE, there is no reasonable doubt that the current trends towards martial law are guaranteed to continue.

[Winston Churchill]

Evolution deals harshly with the blythly unaware.

This time will be no different ,and the gene pool will shrink  considerably.

[tip e. canoe]

“It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is the most adaptable to change.” - darwin

[Common_Cents22]

I am jealous of the ignorant

[DaveyJones]

I feel guilt as well. Part of me blames it on judeo-christian upbrinigng, part of me says the buck stops here. There is a breaking point, a survival instinct and history for the lesson. There is also a point of no return. We have certinly passed the economic one but if we watch the consitutional one slide away it is a collective tragedy. Criminals are ultimately cowards, they manufacture then capitalize on fear.

[Skateboarder]

A prison for the soul is a prison for the soul. If your soul aint free, it's always an uphill battle.

[The Gooch]

Why did tthe intital "person of interest" visit the White House so many times?Secret Saudi...

ALHARBI,ABDULRAHMAN,A,U61728,,VA,,,,,12/4/09 19:05,12/8/09 7:30,12/8/09 23:59,,253,P6,WIN,12/4/09 19:05,P6,OFFICE,VISITORS,WH,RESIDENCE,OFFICE,VISITORS,,GROUP TOURS ,3/26/10

http://www.whitehouse.gov/files/disclosures/visitors/WhiteHouse-WAVES-Released-0310.csv

http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/disclosures/visitor-records

[New_Meat]

they mis-spelled his name.  really fucked up the most sophisticaetd individual-tracking system on the planet.  But, hey, the bureaucratz were absorbing the loss of the increase in their current FY budgetz--dudes and, more importantly, dudettz could'nt clear their minds about the loss of 2 percent of their increase.

[Rusty Shorts]

Boston Marathon Bomb ANNOUNCED BEFORE it happened!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNBcPy4AF6E

[Zer0head]

"What the heck are we doing?"

it's called tyranny George - http://i.imgur.com/kxnDWYs.jpg - http://i.imgur.com/f281znX.jpg

[DosZap]

George,

Pick up the pace bro, this is old news!.

[philipat]

The Big Government solution to still  having poor communications is to add more new Agencies to "Improve communications". There are already 14 different Agencies involved in intelligence gathering, the most recent being the HSA which was formed supposedly to address this very problem.

The Private sector solution would be to reduce the number to ONE Agency with specialist units, thereby eliminating entirely the lack of communication across "Turf". But, of course, the nearest thing to eternal life is a Government Program.

Incidentally, we are bankrupt and such a re-structuring might save a few bucks also!

[Manthong]

Who funded them?
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/tamerlan-tsarnaev-and-family-received-welfare_719056.html>

[New_Meat]

"who funded them?"

Well, evidently, the citizens of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.  'cuz they had a) EBT, b) "scholarships, and c) etc.

Why that would be me 'n mine.

Another instance of "State-Sponsored-Terrorism"

don't cha' know.

- Ned