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Non-Muslims Carried Out More than 90% of All Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil

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An FBI report shows that only a small percentage of terrorist attacks carried out on U.S. soil between 1980 and 2005 were perpetrated by Muslims.

Princeton University’s Loon Watch compiled the following chart from the FBI’s data (as explained below, this chart is over-simplified … and somewhat inaccurate):

Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil by Group, From 1980 to 2005, According to FBI DatabaseTerrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil by Group, From 1980 to 2005, According to FBI Database

According to this data, there were more Jewish acts of terrorism within the United States than Islamic (7% vs 6%).  These radical Jews committed acts of terrorism in the name of their religion.  These were not terrorists who happened to be Jews; rather, they were extremist Jews who committed acts of terrorism based on their religious passions, just like Al-Qaeda and company.

(The chart is misleading in several ways. For example, it labels "Extreme Left Wing Groups" and "Communists", but not "Extreme Right Wing Groups" or "Fascists". It should have either discarded all partisan labels, or included labels for both ends of the spectrum.  In addition, "Latinos" is misleading, as Loonwatch is actually referring to Puerto Rican separatist groups, Cuban exile groups and the like.  However, as shown below, many of the basic concepts are correct.)

U.S. News and World Report noted in February of this year:

Of the more than 300 American deaths from political violence and mass shootings since 9/11, only 33 have come at the hands of Muslim-Americans, according to the Triangle Center on Terrorism and Homeland Security. The Muslim-American suspects or perpetrators in these or other attempted attacks fit no demographic profile—only 51 of more than 200 are of Arabic ethnicity. In 2012, all but one of the nine Muslim-American terrorism plots uncovered were halted in early stages. That one, an attempted bombing of a Social Security office in Arizona, caused no casualties.

Wired reported the same month:

Since 9/11, [Charles Kurzman, Professor of Sociology at University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, writing for the Triangle Center on Terrorism and National Security] and his team tallies, 33 Americans have died as a result of terrorism launched by their Muslim neighbors. During that period, 180,000 Americans were murdered for reasons unrelated to terrorism. In just the past year, the mass shootings that have captivated America’s attention killed 66 Americans, “twice as many fatalities as from Muslim-American terrorism in all 11 years since 9/11,” notes Kurzman’s team.

 

Law enforcement, including “informants and undercover agents,” were involved in “almost all of the Muslim-American terrorism plots uncovered in 2012,” the Triangle team finds. That’s in keeping with the FBI’s recent practice of using undercover or double agents to encourage would-be terrorists to act on their violent desires and arresting them when they do — a practice critics say comes perilously close to entrapment. A difference in 2012 observed by Triangle: with the exception of the Arizona attack, all the alleged plots involving U.S. Muslims were “discovered and disrupted at an early stage,” while in the past three years, law enforcement often observed the incubating terror initiatives “after weapons or explosives had already been gathered.”

 

The sample of Muslim Americans turning to terror is “vanishingly small,” Kurzman tells Danger Room. Measuring the U.S. Muslim population is a famously inexact science, since census data don’t track religion, but rather “country of origin,” which researchers attempt to use as a proxy. There are somewhere between 1.7 million and seven million American Muslims, by most estimates, and Kurzman says he operates off a model that presumes the lower end, a bit over 2 million. That’s less a rate of involvement in terrorism of less than 10 per million, down from a 2003 high of 40 per million, as detailed in the chart above.

 

Yet the scrutiny by law enforcement and homeland security on American Muslims has not similarly abated. The FBI tracks “geomaps” of areas where Muslims live and work, regardless of their involvement in any crime. The Patriot Act and other post-9/11 restrictions on government surveillance remain in place. The Department of Homeland Security just celebrated its 10th anniversary. In 2011, President Obama ordered the entire federal national-security apparatus to get rid of counterterrorism training material that instructed agents to focus on Islam itself, rather than specific terrorist groups.

 

Kurzman doesn’t deny that law enforcement plays a role in disrupting and deterring homegrown U.S. Muslim terrorism. His research holds it out as a possible explanation for the decline. But he remains surprised by the disconnect between the scale of the terrorism problem and the scale — and expense — of the government’s response.

 

“Until public opinion starts to recognize the scale of the problem has been lower than we feared, my sense is that public officials are not going to change their policies,” Kurzman says. “Counterterrorism policies have involved surveillance — not just of Muslim-Americans, but of all Americans, and the fear of terrorism has justified intrusions on American privacy and civil liberties all over the internet and other aspects of our lives. I think the implications here are not just for how we treat a religious minority in the U.S., but also how we treat the rights & liberties of everyone.”

We agree. And so do most Americans. Indeed – as we’ve previously documented – you’re more likely to die from brain-eating parasites, alcoholism, obesity, medical errors, risky sexual behavior or just about anything other than terrorism.

Kurzman told the Young Turks in February that Islamic terrorism “doesn’t even count for 1 percent” of the 180,000 murders in the US since 9/11.

While the Boston marathon bombings were horrific, a top terrorism expert says that the Boston attack was more like Columbine than 9/11, and that the bombers are “murderers not terrorists”.  The overwhelming majority of mass shootings were by non-Muslims.  (This is true in Europe, as well as in the U.S.)

However you classify them – murder or terrorism – the Boston bombings occurred after all of the statistical analysis set forth above. Moreover, different groups have different agendas about how to classify the perpetrators  (For example, liberal Mother Jones and conservative Breitbart disagree on how many of the perpetrators of terror attacks can  properly be classified as right wing extremists.)

So we decided to look at the most current statistics for ourselves, to do an objective numerical count not driven by any agenda.

Specifically, we reviewed all of the terrorist attacks on U.S. soil as documented by the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism (START). (2012). Global Terrorism Database, as retrieved from http://www.start.umd.edu/gtd.

The START Global Terrorism Database spans from 1970 through 2012 (and will be updated from year-to-year), and – as of this writing – includes 104,000 terrorist incidents.  As such, it is the most comprehensive open-source database open to the public.

We counted up the number of terrorist attacks carried out by Muslims.  We excluded attacks by groups which are obviously not Muslims, such as the Ku Klux Klan, Medellin Drug Cartel, Irish Republican Army, Anti-Castro Group, Mormon extremists, Vietnamese Organization to Exterminate Communists and Restore the Nation, Jewish Defense League, May 19 Communist Order, Chicano Liberation Front, Jewish Armed Resistance, American Indian Movement, Gay Liberation Front, Aryan Nation, Jewish Action Movement, National Front for the Liberation of Cuba, or Fourth Reich Skinheads.

We counted attacks by Al Qaeda, the Taliban, Black American Moslems, or anyone who even remotely sounded Muslim … for example anyone from Palestine, Lebanon or any other Arab or Muslim country, or any name including anything sounding remotely Arabic or Indonesian (like “Al” anything or “Jamaat” anything).

If we weren’t sure what the person’s affiliation was, we looked up the name of the group to determine whether it could in any way be connected to Muslims.

Based on our review of the approximately 2,400 terrorist attacks on U.S. soil contained within the START database, we determined that approximately 60 were carried out by Muslims.

In other words, approximately 2.5% of all terrorist attacks on U.S. soil between 1970 and 2012 were carried out by Muslims.*  This is a tiny proportion of all attacks.

(We determined that approximately 118 of the terror attacks - or 4.9% - were carried out by Jewish groups such as Jewish Armed Resistance, the Jewish Defense League, Jewish Action Movement, United Jewish Underground and Thunder of Zion. This is almost twice the percentage of Islamic attacks within the United States.  In addition, there were approximately 168 attacks - or 7% - by anti-abortion activists, who tend to be Christian. Fuerzas Armadas de Liberacion Nacional  - a Puerto Rican paramilitary organization -  carried out more than 120 bomb attacks on U.S. targets between 1974 and 1983, and there were some 41 attacks by Cuban exiles, and a number of attacks by other Latin American groups. If we look at worldwide attacks - instead of just attacks on U.S. soil - Sunni Muslims are the main perpetrators of terrorism.  However: 1. Muslims are also the main victims of terror attacks worldwide; and 2. the U.S. backs the most radical types of Sunnis over more moderate Muslims and Arab secularists.)

Moreover, another study undertaken by the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism – called ”Profiles of Perpetrators of Terrorism in the United States” – found:

Between 1970 and 2011, 32 percent of the perpetrator groups were motivated by ethnonationalist/separatist agendas, 28 percent were motivated by single issues, such as animal rights or opposition to war, and seven percent were motivated by religious beliefs. In addition, 11 percent of the perpetrator groups were classified as extreme right-wing, and 22 percent were categorized as extreme left-wing.

 

Preliminary findings from PPT-US data between 1970 and 2011 also illustrate a distinct shift in the dominant ideologies of these terrorist groups over time, with the proportion of emerging ethnonationalist/separatist terrorist groups declining and the proportion of religious terrorist groups increasing. However, while terrorist groups with religious ideologies represent 40 percent of all emergent groups from 2000-2011 (two out of five), they only account for seven percent of groups over time.

Similarly, a third study by the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism Religion found that religion alone is not a key factor in determining which terrorists want to use weapons of mass destruction:

The available empirical data show that there is not a significant relationship between terrorist organizations’ pursuit of CBRN (chemical, biological, radiological or nuclear) weapons and the mere possession of a religious ideology, according to a new quantitative study by START researchers Victor Asal, Gary Ackerman and Karl Rethemeyer.

Therefore, Muslims are not more likely than other groups to want to use WMDs.

* The Boston marathon bombing was not included in this analysis, as START has not yet updated its database to include 2013 terrorist attacks.  3 people died in the Boston attack.  While tragic, we are confident that non-Musliims killed more than 3 during this same period.

We are not experts in terrorism analysis.  We would therefore defer to people like Kurzman on the exact number.  However, every quantitative analysis of terrorism in the U.S. we have read shows that the percent of terror attacks carried out by Muslims is far less than 10%.

Postscript: State-sponsored terrorism is beyond the scope of this discussion, and was not included in our statistical analysis.  Specifically, the following arguments are beyond the scope of this discussion, as we are focusing solely on non-state terrorism:

  • Arguments by  University of Michigan Professor Juan Cole that deaths from 20th century wars could be labeled Christian terrorism
 

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Wed, 05/01/2013 - 19:44 | 3520383 Oldwood
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Could it be because we see thousands of MUSLIMS protesting in the streets around the world screaming death to America? I cannot speak to statistics with any precision, but what other "group" has come out so stridently from so many different corners of the world celebrating death of Americans? I mean come on now, can you honestly say you have seen overt death threats spoken in any public forum by Christians or Jews or any other religion or ethnic group. And I'm not just talking about politicians or leaders, but people on the street in mass protest. If someone leans over my backyard fence everyday and screams that he is going to kill me, I tend to give him the benefit of the doubt. But you can call me a racist if you want. I'm OK with that, because thats all you got.

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 19:47 | 3520392 besnook
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south america for one. do you know where the saying "yankee go home!" originated? i watched massive anti usa protests in japan in 1970(?).

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 19:58 | 3520447 Oldwood
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There has always been anti americanism. But which of them has called for our death?

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 21:54 | 3520843 The Joker
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Just based on my personal experiences serving in the army in Germany in the mid-80's I have to agree.  The older people would spit in our faces in the city streets and tell us to get the hell out of our country.  The younger people liked us, but I think that had more to do with chicks...er...frauleins...wanting a ticket to America.  People don't like their country being occupied and we occupy a lot of countries.  Put the shoe on the other foot for a minute.  I wouldn't like it.  But Germans didn't stand in the streets and burn american flags and scream death to america. 

That being said, I think most of the anti-american sentiment is both indirectly fueled by the U.S., like I just stated, and directly fueled by the CIA, to keep the operation going.  Radical Islam is a tool in the CIA's pocket.

Thu, 05/02/2013 - 10:03 | 3522113 Abaco
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Opposite of my experience living in Germany in the mid-seventies. The older German's realized that evil ran rampant in their country and they were appreciative of America liberating them from it and all the support we gave to rebuild their economy. It was a regular thing for men who fought in Hitler's army to sit with men who fought in our Army and enjoy beer and wurst together. Some even fought each other on the same field. The German's born after the war understood why our military was there and were very aware of the soviet military which posed a genuine threat to them. They were neither fawning or antagonistic - just treated us like people who spoke a different language. Of course, more time has passed since then than had passed since WWII so no doubt much as changed.

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 22:30 | 3520975 Oldwood
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You ever think that maybe the older Germans hated Americans because they could remember us blowing the shit out of their country. America has plenty of enemies and many are deserved I’m sure. While we should try to change our ways, I’m not going to lay down for anyone. Regardless of statistics, if individuals continue to threaten me I will take them seriously. And right now our government is the larger threat, but one does not negate the other. Why does our fearless leader refuse to even mention the words Muslim extremist? They have not hesitated to classify you as a former military person a potential threat.

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 23:12 | 3521113 The Joker
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No.  They didn't hate us because because we blew the shit out of their country.  We did rebuild it.  They hated us because they still believed in Hitler.  Hitler turned that country around and they remembered that.  Americans took that away from them, and occupied for 40 years after that.  Old school.  Old people don't want babysitters.

Edit:  Huh?  Why the fuck am I a threat?  I try to grow as much as my own food as I can, I'm a vet, I like hotdogs and football, my kids don't play video games and are smart, I own a small hunting rifle (30-30 marlin, best deer rifle ever), I fish, I lettered in basketball, I have a nuclear family (that's family, not bomb), a mortgage, two cars with no payments, solid job, low pay.  I'm in debt to my eyeballs.  I'm all-American man, that's the american dream.  Please, a threat?  HA HA HA HA HA . 

Thu, 05/02/2013 - 07:51 | 3521650 Oldwood
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I'm not saying you are a threat, Our illustrious leaders are saying that you and I are bigger threats than clearly outspoken radical Muslims telling us they will bring us down. Sorry if I'm a hater, but when someone says they want me dead, I give them my attention priority over those conspiracy theories that may well be true. I'm shallow that way.

Thu, 05/02/2013 - 01:03 | 3521367 The Joker
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How do you thumbs down that?  WTF?  Is it because I lettered in basketball?  Look, I spent a lot of time off the beaten path in Germany and talking to old folks who were related to my German girlfriend.  This is what they said.  I'm not pulling shit out of my ass.  They believed in Hitler, period, and that was their beef.

Thu, 05/02/2013 - 05:32 | 3521545 Dr. Sandi
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Probably the letter for basketball. We nerds really hate that jock stuff.

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 20:14 | 3520493 besnook
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all of them. the russians from 1918 until now. japan, germany and italy for a short time in the 40s. the vietnamese in the 60s.  all south america since the turn of the 20th century. you should get out of the country. the bs you hear about everyone loving the usa and wanting to come here began to end in the 80s and is dead today unless you are mexican. there was an article a few years ago about japanese tourist experiences in the usa. they love the free for all nature of the usa but their final comment was "we are fortunate to be japanese". in conservative circles, in private conversation not privy to gaijin, the japanese don't really care for the usa .gov policy in the region or japan specific policy. they may not be saying death to america but they won't be very sad when it self immolates, some places can't wait.

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 20:33 | 3520552 Oldwood
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So what you are telling me is that there is absolutely nothing about the world wide phenom of radical Muslims in force protesting in country after country, proclaiming "death to America" that is exceptional or merits any special considerations. Your relativism is maddening. Yes there has always been terrorists of one stripe or another and I'm not suggesting that Muslim extremists are the one and only threat, but really. You can ignore or deny virually everything that has been done in their name and still, if you listen to what comes out of their mouths, cannot ignore their threats. I'm not for all of this Home Land Security crap or the other constitution destroying shit our benevlonet leaders are doing. Yes they are exagerating everything except the truth. Included in that is radical Islam. Obama is afraid to even whisper those words. Why don't you wonder why that is, if you believe in this conspiracy?

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 21:03 | 3520666 besnook
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that is like saying the usa is on a christian crusade simply because it wants to take over the mid east. yes the usa is christian, yes, there is an element that has religious motivations, yes, as this and other sites have made clear many want death to all muslims but to characterize this as anything more than a usa empire policy would be wrong. most muslims identify with their country(possibly with ancestral tribe) first just as americans do. to think otherwise is to buy into the psyop perped upon you by .gov that benefits from your simplified characterization of the conflict as religious so that individual country hate is not necessarily important for your support of western aggression.

a case in point are the chechen bombers who happen to be muslim. if they are chechen rebels as the msm has portrayed them then they are on our(usa) side......but you still think they are a danger because they are muslim.

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 21:27 | 3520750 Oldwood
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I haven't seen any Christians parading in the streets demanding we take over the middle east, nor have I seen anyone other than those like yourself suggest such a thing. They might believe it and yes that may give them their justifications. I'm not arguing as to who is to blame here, just that radical Muslims which comprise a small percentage of the Muslim population but an overall huge number of people have made a point, in many different countries, of their intentions. In our face. Not conspiracies or rumours. On the record. And your point? The Boston bombers WERE Muslims, but not to worry, because even though few few million of them want us dead, they can't be all bad, right?

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 21:54 | 3520830 besnook
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how can you say that. there is an entire industry of evangelical christians clamoring for the end days beginning with war in the mid east. that is as crazy as you can get even compared to another abrahamic group who swears god gave them land all the way to babylon they will defend even against imaginary foes with real bombs.

see. you are obsessing. the chechen rebels who happen to be muslims are on our side. the iraqi sunni muslims hate us. the shiite muslims like us unless you go to iran where the shiite muslims hate us or to turkey where most of the country's muslims like us and onto lebanon where no one really likes us including the christians just like the palestinians and then there is saudi arabia and bahrain where the usa is well liked by the muslims and egypt where they is some ambivalence. indian muslims love the usa as do the indonesians.......you bought the bullshit. there is no compelling reason to fear muslims except that as a function of belief systems(religion, especially the abrahamic ones)there is a dangerous element at both ends. if you fear or see a danger from the muslims then stopping the bombing and droning of them would reduce your fear down to the usual number of crazies as a function of numbers. as the christian and muslim numbers are about equal the number of radicals are about equal. the outlier as a matter of total numbers to total events as a function of population are the jews. they are the real abrahamic wackos but even they act, loosely speaking, in the name of israel.

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 19:41 | 3520351 Radical Marijuana
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The power to make "money" out of nothing is greater than any other natural resource, like oil and gas, because the money system controls those natural resources.

P.S.

I basically hate ALL of the established systems, because I find that everybody who has power abuses it. I would hate to have to live in any society dominated by any one religion. What I would like to see are better dynamic equlibiria between the different systems of organized lies and robberies. At the present time, the banksters, operating our state religion, of faith-based money, are my worst enemies. However, any other religion that gained more power would also become a more dangerous threat, the more relative power it gained.

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 20:03 | 3520456 Ignatius
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Don't forget to toss in some 'American Exceptionalism' as a key component of the state religion. 

"We don't do that", well, yes 'we' do (and have).

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 19:21 | 3520281 besnook
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the black humor of the moment is the chechen brothers blamed for the boston bombs are on the usa side of the chechen conflict if they are chechen rebels as putin says they are.

Thu, 05/02/2013 - 12:47 | 3522910 xavi1951
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And what is the US side of the conflict?  Do you know what the conflict is about?

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 22:01 | 3520874 The Joker
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Sibel Edmonds has this all figured out.

Thu, 05/02/2013 - 02:16 | 3521437 JOYFUL
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Actually Sibel has simply figured out how to make it harder to get this mess 'figured out' ....

she believes that 19 guys with boxcutters destroyed the Towerz...

wheels within wheels...limited hangouts...and controlled opposition whistleblowers...

amost everybody has been bribed bullied or blackmailed into submission to the talmudist terror narrative. We're on our own.

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 20:03 | 3520468 New_Meat
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"... if they are chechen rebels as putin says they are."

so, now we believe Putin?

cha...

- Ned

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 19:21 | 3520298 George Washington
Wed, 05/01/2013 - 19:07 | 3520242 shovelhead
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I wonder if counting Mexicans who steal Chevys as a terrorist act might have skewed the numbers?

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 19:03 | 3520223 williambanzai7
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You are a person of interest if:

a. you are Borat;

b. you are George Washington;

c. an employed Muslim who does not recieve welfare benefits;

d. not flagged as a potential threat by Russian and/or Saudi Intelliegnce;

e. all of the above.

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 20:02 | 3520461 New_Meat
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WB7: evidently, no one is interested in b. - Ned

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 18:56 | 3520206 StarTedStackin'
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So what you are saying is that Muslims commit a disproportionate amount of terrorist acts in America, but we should not be focusing on them?

For someone with a name like GW, you have a real pro National Socialist Democrat, Pro Muslim bent to you propaganda.

 

 

I stopped reading after the extraordinarily stupid title......did you manage to blame "Busch an Chaney"?????again?

 

 

GFYerself

Thu, 05/02/2013 - 03:52 | 3521501 JOYFUL
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Ted you should be focussin on the extraordinary daylight crime of whoever stole whatever God gave yu above the neckline... then come back n tell us all about it!

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 20:01 | 3520457 New_Meat
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"... did you manage to blame "Busch an Chaney"?????again?"

Fucking too much beer, and GW, living in the basement, can't even affort Bud.

- Ned

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 19:38 | 3520251 besnook
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the problem with zh is the purpose of the site has allowed people like you into the conversation. substance, no matter how stupid, is appreciated here. plain stupid is not.

it is a little obvious that christian terrorism is not included in the stat so the abortion clinic bombings and other maniacal acts are not recorded under that heading but of the two religions where there was religious motivation for for acts of terrorism jews are actually more culpable than muslims which means, according to your logic, they should be specifically targeted for more profiled surveillance.

Thu, 05/02/2013 - 10:16 | 3522189 Abaco
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Your supposition isn't the least bit obvious. What is included in the category "other?" Also, the data is useless for drawing any conclusions without defining what constitutes a terrorist act. Someone going nuts and shooting 17 people like Charles Whitman in Texas, or a Ted Bundy murdering 30 or so women, or an anti-abortionist shooting an abortionist like Dr. Gosnell are completely different problems than someone setting a bomb off in a public place and randomly killing and maiming people who coincidentally happen to be present.

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 18:49 | 3520174 T-roll
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The biggest terrorist organization in the history of the US is the KKK. How many Americans you suppose they killed?

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 22:21 | 3520312 Radical Marijuana
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T-roll, I would guess that the murders to maintain African American slavery would not come within an order of magnitude of the overall genocides which wiped out the original Native Americans ???

As a rough guess, the European invasion of North America killed off about 45 million Natives, which was much bigger than the African American population, despite the actions of the the KKK and others, to try to maintain their slavery.

I believe that, whereas the Islamic slavers tended to castrate their black slaves, the Western slavers did not do that so much. Therefore, Islamic countries did not allow their slave populations to grow so much. Western slavery was particularly strange because the masters bred with their slaves quite extensively. Roughly speaking, at least one quarter of so=called "blacks" in America are "white," from a genetic point of view.

That does not look quite like as much of a genocide, from that perspective, as does the degree to which the people who were living in North America for more than 10,000 years had almost all of that territory robbed from their uses, while the survivors were left with a few small reservations. Take a look at a time lapse map of North American Indian lands to see how extreme that process was! (It looks a lot like the way Israel gobbled up Palestine.)

My point would be that what the American settlers, and American government, did to the natives was perhaps an order of magnitude worse than what they did to the African American slave population.

Thu, 05/02/2013 - 04:05 | 3521507 JOYFUL
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RAD MAN: yu are one of the few(long with Johh n besnook here) who took the time n trouble to stand against this last surge of talmudist terror-error damage control... when in the darkest night their zombie terror hordes tried to win back the ground that they have lost.

                     NUFFNUFF RESPECT TO YU>(S)

For we were the few...without fear... when so many amongst us chose to forgo the effort required to defend  the dignity of the white peeple of this earth against the talmudist racialist hordes and their race traitor goy dupes here. And this will not go unremembered by those who follow us... beneficiaries of our unwillingness to let the drums of war overcome the pipes of peace.

Soon nuff we will hear the whining from the dark hole which the Whited-out WhiteHouse has become... which will sound remarkably like that of Napoleons' Marchal Soult, on the day after ALBUERA ....

‘There is no beating these troops in spite of their generals. I turned their right, pierced their centre, broke them everywhere; the day was mine!...and yet they did not know it... and would not run...

You are now honorary members of the 57th (West Middlesex)... and indeed have won the day

"Die Hard 57th - Die Hard!"


Thu, 05/02/2013 - 09:25 | 3521928 DOT
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Yeah, we know; you kicked that wind mill's ass. Or was it just something you ate ?

Thu, 05/02/2013 - 10:04 | 3522124 JOYFUL
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That 'windmill' ate your mind...

Don Quijote n me at your lunch... n dinner too!

Better luck next time wit the 'literary allusions' tard!

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 19:14 | 3520152 Radical Marijuana
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The REASON why Muslims are portrayed as THE problem is that they ARE a problem for the banksters. Our armed forces actually back up the banksters' frauds. The banksters have already been almost totally successful in taking over the entire Anglo-America (Zionist) world, which is the dominant empire, which is manifested throughout NATO.

The foundation of that empire is the ability to create "money" out of nothing, as debts, which everyone else is forced to accept. It took several hundred years to overcome the religious objections to usury which were originally present in Western Civilization. However, after one loophole was built on top of another, gradually, the moral objections to usury were overruled. BUT, the Islamic world did not have a few hundred years to gradually develop in those ways. Islamic morality is in direct opposition to usury. Therefore, Muslims are in the way of the Western banksters more than any other group.

All churches, corporations, and countries, are different systems of organized lies, operating organized robberies. Islam is an imperialistic information system, an organized crime gang, which is the way of the state religion of the West, which is our faith-based monetary system, which was made and maintained by our biggest gangsters, the banksters.

It took Western civilization several hundred years to gradually develop our delicate balancing of immaculate hypocrisy, done by our best professional liars. Islamic countries are not being allowed that amount of time to be transformed. Instead, they are being targeted for destruction.

As always, to understand what is going on in the world, the most important idea is this one:

The Anglo-American (Zionist) empire appears willing and able to go for broke to achieve their goals, such as were laid out by historian Carroll Quigley, who commented on the creation of the central banks in his 1975 book, Tragedy And Hope, as follows:

"The powers of financial capitalism had (a) far reaching (plan), nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was to be the Bank For International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank ... sought to dominate its government by its ability to control treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the Country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

THAT IS AN IMPORTANT STATEMENT! The "war on terror" is primarily a false flag attack, inside that context, where the REAL GOAL is to back up debt slavery with wars based on deceits. The Western banksters are deliberately setting up excuses for more genocidal wars against countries which are dominated by the Islamic religion.

As above, so below.

As within, so without.

The lies are different at every level.

The "war on terror" is not only being promoted by the banksters in order to have excuses to have genocidal wars against Islamic countries, but also to have excuses to impose democidal martial law within the Anglo-American (Zionist) empire.

Nobody else is remotely close to the banksters as far as doing "terrorism" goes. They are collectively a group of trillionaire mass murderers, who end up making more profit, and gaining more social power, from their kinds of terror. They have consistently been blaming others, through the war on some drugs, then communists, then Muslims, and so on and so forth, in order to advance their real agenda, which is consolidating a global hegemony over the power to make money out of nothing, while being able to force everyone else to accept that fraud.

They have already succeeded in doing that throughout the Anglo-American world, and indeed, all NATO countries. They are in an interesting relationship with some other countries, such as Russia and China, where the banksters were able to beat the shit out of those countries throughout the 20th Century, BUT, now those countries have come up to speed, with their own kinds of banksters, and their own kinds of armed forces, able to back up their own kinds of banksters.

How the hell that is supposed to play out, in the conflict between the Anglo-American (Zionist) banksters, against the newly emergent Russian and Chinese systems, remains to be seen ??? However, Russia and China have basically been forced to adapt to Western civilization by adopting it. Therefore, it is still perhaps possible for some king of global bankster system to be negotiated between the Anglo-American empire and the Russian and Chinese, etc., systems.

However, Islamic countries are still seriously in the way of that globalizing process. That is why they are being divided and conquered, and being set up to be the victim of more genocidal wars. The "war on terror" is primarily a false flag driven phenomenon, and the ways that those false flags are more blamed upon Muslims than anyone else (despite that NOT being the real facts, as this article by George Washington discusses) FITS into the overall pattern of the runaway fascist plutocracy juggernaut operated by the banksters being the primary directing and driving force in human history for several hundred years.

Since those trends have been on an exponential growth curve, we can expect "terrorism" to keep on being presented as doubling and doubling again, while the genocidal wars and democidal martial law will also keep overall doubling and doubling, within the spirals of the foreseeable human future.

As always, the ONLY genuine long-term solutions would be to evolve better ecologies, operating better death controls ... However, considering the degree to which the vast majority of people do not understand any of those ideas, and have been conditioned to not want to understand any of those ideas, but rather have been brainwashed to believe in the biggest bullies' bullshit (i.e., the social stories promoted by the banksta groups) we are not remotely close to developing better systems of terrorism.

The central core controls to civilizations must always be their death controls. Governments, and those who effectively control governments, are always going to be the best organized criminals, who are the biggest terrorists. The challenges for future human history is how to evolve better dynamic equilibria between the different systems of organized lies, operating organized robberies, AFTER science and technologies made people able to use trillions of times more power and information ... In theory, citizens should take responsibility for directing the powers to rob, backed by the power to kill, through the rule of law, within a democratic republic. However, in practice, the vast majority of people have been brainwashed to believe in huge lies, and to have such a distorted and deformed view of their world that almost everything they see is totally backwards. Welcome to the Bizarro Mirror World, Folks!

At the present time, better solutions to the chronic political problems appear practically impossible, since all the biggest terrorists are mostly getting away with blaming somebody else for being the terrorists. Although I do not trust the original FBI data, upon which this report was based, I do believe the overall trend that the threat of "terrorism" is based on grossly disproportional and irrational risk assessments. The worst terrorists are the ruling classes, which are able to advance their real agenda by blaming somebody else for what those ruling classes are covertly doing.

Thu, 05/02/2013 - 00:01 | 3521262 SmackDaddy
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I suppose I can live with the fact that fucking corporations have taken over my block, if I have to.  But if any more smelly fucking Arabs move into my neighborhood I'm going to freak the fuck out.  Get it?  I'd rather be buttfucked by a jew banker in my McMansion than even fucking look at a towel head.

Oh and GW is a fucking faggot.

Thu, 05/02/2013 - 02:12 | 3521434 JOYFUL
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looks like yu already did the freekin out chumly... we got it!

and the buttfuckin yu lookin for... damn sure you've got that one already covered too! Too rich!

But why you would solicit GW for your 'filthy' habits is a bit of a mystery...

wouldn't a thought he'd be your type a'tall!

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 19:32 | 3520334 Ignatius
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Man, would I enjoy having some beers with you.

Touche'.

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 18:34 | 3520115 solgundy
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the best muslims are dead

Thu, 05/02/2013 - 02:08 | 3521428 JOYFUL
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Yur right!

Like Benazir Bhutto and the rest of the moderate Muslim leadership which the terror statelet and it's Merikan satrapy have killed off in order to encourage the ascendacy of their phony 'radical fundamentalist' fake islam puppets....

they're dead.

But not forgotten. Nor will they be unavenged.

For you and your vermin filth talmudist terror scum are the unforgiven. And we will find you.

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 18:36 | 3520129 Zero Govt
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so you've got to live amongst and suffer all the bad ones ...it's a long hard life for you then, cheer up

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 18:30 | 3520100 Zero Govt
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"Non-Muslims Carried Out More than 90% of All Terrorist Attacks on U.S. Soil."

99% of that 90% was by the US Govt yes?

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 18:11 | 3520006 Rustysilver
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I want to see a table that list the number of people kill and by whom.

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 19:06 | 3520234 Go Tribe
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Me, too. Bet my definition of a terrorist is a lot different than theirs. They would likely classify an abortion doctor killer a terrorist. I would classify him a murderer. Same with white on black killings and mass murderer types.

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 19:14 | 3520268 nmewn
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You mean like "Doctor" Gosnell?

Snipping the spinal cords of just delivered premi-babies is mass murder.

"The grand jury report in the case of Kermit Gosnell, 72, is among the most horrifying I've read. "This case is about a doctor who killed babies and endangered women. What we mean is that he regularly and illegally delivered live, viable babies in the third trimester of pregnancy - and then murdered these newborns by severing their spinal cords with scissors," it states. "The medical practice by which he carried out this business was a filthy fraud in which he overdosed his patients with dangerous drugs, spread venereal disease among them with infected instruments, perforated their wombs and bowels - and, on at least two occasions, caused their deaths."

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/04/why-dr-kermit-gosnells-trial-should-be-a-front-page-story/274944/

The Grand Jury Report is in the link.

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 19:59 | 3520441 New_Meat
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Lad, if you ever become irregular, from either end, here's something that will get both ends ejecting. 

http://www.amazon.com/War-Against-Weak-Eugenics-Americas/dp/0914153293/r...

In my time, I've had to be a highly controlled piglet, in all kinds of circumstances.  But this bastard? ...

And the self-hatred???

Please, start me NOT.

- Ned

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 21:24 | 3520751 nmewn
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Yes, familiar with the subject my little piglet, it never stops, even in softer tones.

The elitist manipulation of mind, body, soul to their purpose. At one point in time in our short history as a nation (actually world history) eugenics was "a proven science" (ROTFL!!!) taught in the most prestigious universities...by tenured professors!

They've given up the teaching part of it...but not the thought & belief.

We see it everywhere, Big Gulps, calorie counts, inner city abortion rates (and its funding source), say this, not that, spend for this not that, servile, docile sheep are whats required...not free thinking individual men & women choosing their own paths.

Irregular is about right my man, come & go as I please, I've always been a rebel, even knowing it is the ultimate downfall...as we read between the lines. That and promises of citizenship to those from foreign lands who would be served up as cannon fodder for another purpose, the world is a very complicated place for piglets & n's ;-)

Wed, 05/01/2013 - 18:35 | 3520112 Zero Govt
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ask the loons at the CIA, it's their hitlist afterall

they're probably the most out-of-control terrorist organisation on the planet ...ever.

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