Benghazi: New Evidence Emerges

George Washington's picture

The Administration announced after the Benghazi attack that a protest by Muslims had turned violent.

The Administration also stated that there was nothing which could have been done to save the people killed within the consulate.

But the number 2 American official in Libya – Deputy Chief of Mission in Libya Gregory Hicks, who became the Chief of Mission after Ambassador Christopher Stevens was killed  – says everyone who worked at the Benghazi consulate thought it was a terrorist attack from the get-go:


Similarly, Democratic Congressman Stephen Lynch agrees that the U.S. talking points after the Benghazi attack were false:

Congressman Daryl Issa notes that the U.S. ignored requests for more security, and theorized that the motive was to underplay the danger from terrorism:


More disturbing are tales of the lack of assistance from the U.S. As CBS News reports:

Throughout the night, sources say Americans on the ground in Libya at times felt helpless and abandoned.


“We relied on Washington for dispassionate assessment,” one eyewitness told CBS News. “Instead, they [Washington officials] were asking us what help we needed. We answered: ‘Send reinforcements!’ ”


But they were told immediate help wasn’t available.


Embassy personnel say they repeatedly asked the Defense Attache on site in Tripoli for military assistance.


“Isn’t there anything available?” one Embassy official says he asked. “But the answer was ‘no.’”


“What about Aviano?” the official pressed, referencing the NATO air base with US assets in northeastern Italy. “No,” was the answer.


Two of the four Americans killed that night died hours after the first attack began…




Counterterrorism sources and internal emails reviewed by CBS News express frustration that key responders were ready to deploy, but were not called upon to help in the attack. National Security Council Spokesman Tommy Vietor told CBS News the CSG was not needed.

But most devastating of all is Hicks’ testimony that the U.S. prevented rescuers from reaching Benghazi. As CBS News reports:

The deputy of slain U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens has told congressional investigators that a team of Special Forces prepared to fly from Tripoli to Benghazi during the Sept. 11, 2012 attacks was forbidden from doing so by U.S. Special Operations Command Africa.




Hicks told investigators that SOCAFRICA commander Lt. Col. Gibson and his team were on their way to board a C-130 from Tripoli for Benghazi prior to an attack on a second U.S. compound “when [Col. Gibson] got a phone call from SOCAFRICA which said, ‘you can’t go now, you don’t have the authority to go now.’ And so they missed the flight … They were told not to board the flight, so they missed it.




Hicks told congressional investigators that if the U.S. had quickly sent a military aircraft over Benghazi, it might have saved American lives. The U.S. Souda Bay Naval Base is an hour’s flight from Libya.


“I believe if we had been able to scramble a fighter or aircraft or two over Benghazi as quickly as possible after the attack commenced, I believe there would not have been a mortar attack on the annex in the morning because I believe the Libyans would have split. They would have been scared to death that we would have gotten a laser on them and killed them,” Hicks testified. Two Americans died in the morning mortar attack.

The Real Story at Benghazi

The U.S. supported opposition which overthrew Libya’s Gadaffi was largely comprised of Al Qaeda terrorists.

According to a 2007 report by West Point’s Combating Terrorism Center’s center, the Libyan city of Benghazi was one of Al Qaeda’s main headquarters – and bases for sending Al Qaeda fighters into Iraq – prior to the overthrow of Gaddafi:

The Hindustan Times reported in 2011:

“There is no question that al Qaeda’s Libyan franchise, Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, is a part of the opposition,” Bruce Riedel, former CIA officer and a leading expert on terrorism, told Hindustan Times.


It has always been Qaddafi’s biggest enemy and its stronghold is Benghazi.

Al Qaeda is now largely in control of Libya. Indeed, Al Qaeda flags were flown over the Benghazi courthouse once Gaddafi was toppled.

(Incidentally, Gaddafi was on the verge of invading Benghazi in 2011, 4 years after the West Point report cited Benghazi as a hotbed of Al Qaeda terrorists. Gaddafi claimed – rightly it turns out – that Benghazi was an Al Qaeda stronghold and a main source of the Libyan rebellion. But NATO planes stopped him, and protected Benghazi.)

CNN, the Telegraph, the Washington Times, and many other mainstream sources confirm that Al Qaeda terrorists from Libya have since flooded into Syria to fight the Assad regime.

Mainstream sources also confirm that the Syrian opposition is largely comprised of Al Qaeda terrorists. (Indeed, the New York Times reported last week that virtually all of the rebel fighters are Al Qaeda terrorists.)

The U.S. has been arming the Syrian opposition since 2006. The post-Gaddafi Libyan government is also itself a top funder and arms supplier of the Syrian opposition.

This brings us to the murder of ambassador Stevens …

The Wall Street Journal, Telegraph and other sources confirm that the US consulate in Benghazi was mainly being used for a secret CIA operation.

They say that the State Department presence in Benghazi “provided diplomatic cover” for the previously hidden CIA mission. (WND alleges that it was not a real consulate.)

Reuters notes that the CIA mission involved finding and repurchasing heavy weaponry looted from Libyan government arsenals.

Business Insider reports that Stevens may have been linked with Syrian terrorists:

There’s growing evidence that U.S. agents—particularly murdered ambassador Chris Stevens—were at least aware of heavy weapons moving from Libya to jihadist Syrian rebels.


In March 2011 Stevens became the official U.S. liaison to the al-Qaeda-linked Libyan opposition, working directly with Abdelhakim Belhadj of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group—a group that has now disbanded, with some fighters reportedly participating in the attack that took Stevens’ life.


In November 2011 The Telegraph reported that Belhadj, acting as head of the Tripoli Military Council, “met with Free Syrian Army [FSA] leaders in Istanbul and on the border with Turkey” in an effort by the new Libyan government to provide money and weapons to the growing insurgency in Syria.


Last month The Times of London reported that a Libyan ship “carrying the largest consignment of weapons for Syria … has docked in Turkey.” The shipment reportedly weighed 400 tons and included SA-7 surface-to-air anti-craft missiles and rocket-propelled grenades.




Reuters reports that Syrian rebels have been using those heavy weapons to shoot down Syrian helicopters and fighter jets.


The ship’s captain was “a Libyan from Benghazi and the head of an organization called the Libyan National Council for Relief and Support,” which was presumably established by the new government.


That means that Ambassador Stevens had only one person—Belhadj—between himself and the Benghazi man who brought heavy weapons to Syria.


Furthermore, we know that jihadists are the best fighters in the Syrian opposition, but where did they come from?

Last week The Telegraph reported that a FSA commander called them “Libyans” when he explained that the FSA doesn’t “want these extremist people here.”


And if the new Libyan government was sending seasoned Islamic fighters and 400 tons of heavy weapons to Syria through a port in southern Turkey—a deal brokered by Stevens’ primary Libyan contact during the Libyan revolution—then the governments of Turkey and the U.S. surely knew about it.


Furthermore there was a CIA post in Benghazi, located 1.2 miles from the U.S. consulate, used as “a base for, among other things, collecting information on the proliferation of weaponry looted from Libyan government arsenals, including surface-to-air missiles” … and that its security features “were more advanced than those at rented villa where Stevens died.”


And we know that the CIA has been funneling weapons to the rebels in southern Turkey. The question is whether the CIA has been involved in handing out the heavy weapons from Libya.

In other words, ambassador Stevens may have been a key player in deploying Libyan terrorists and arms to fight the Syrian government.

Other sources also claim that the U.S. consulate in Benghazi was mainly being used as a CIA operation to ship fighters and arms to Syria.

Many have speculated that – if normal security measures weren’t taken to protect the Benghazi consulate or to rescue ambassador Stevens – it was because the CIA was trying to keep an extremely low profile to protect its cover of being a normal State Department operation.

That is what I think really happened at Benghazi.

Was CIA Chief David Petraeus’ Firing Due to Benghazi?

CIA boss David Petraeus suddenly resigned, admitting to an affair. But Petraeus was scheduled to testify under oath the next week before power House and Senate committees regarding the Benghazi consulate.  Many speculate that it wasn’t an affair – but the desire to avoid testifying on Benghazi – which was the real reason for Petraeus’ sudden resignation.

The Big Picture

Whatever the scope of the CIA’s operation in Benghazi – and whatever the real reason for the resignation of the CIA chief – the key is our historical and ongoing foreign policy.

For decades, the U.S. has backed terrorists for geopolitical ends. For decades, the U.S. has backed the most radical, fundamentalist, violent Muslims.

The U.S. government has been consistently planning regime change in Syria, Libya and Iran for 20 years, and dreamed of regime change – using false flag terror – for 50 years.

Obama has simply re-packaged Bush and the Neocons’ “war on terror” as a series of humanitarian wars.

Liberals rightfully lambast Bush for getting us into the disastrous Iraq war.

But Obama has in fact launched wars in Libya, Syria, Yemen, Pakistan … and up to 35 African nations (and see this).

Obama – citing a Nixon administration official’s justification for invading Cambodia – has claimed his power extends into every country in the world … well beyond those where we are engaged in hostilities.

Obama has dramatically escalated the use of drone assassinations, which are  creating many more terrorists than they are killing.  The former chief military prosecutor at Guantanamo says that Obama’s drone surge is as damaging to our country as Bush’s torture program. I think he’s actually underestimating damage from the program, as drones have become the number 1 recruiting tool for Al Qaeda (especially since children are now being targeted for drone assassination … Oh, and torture is still happening on Obama’s watch; background).

And the Obama administration has probably supported even more terrorists – in Libya, Syria and elsewhere – than Bush. See this, this, this, this and this.

In other words, both GOP and Dem politicians are supporting destability, terrorism and war.

Those are the deeper truths regarding Benghazi.

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Clashfan's picture

Edit: Bush's and the neocons'

if it belonged to both, Bush's, too, need 's

kchrisc's picture

If you give a shit about what happened to some criminal crats, one a member of the elite, and some of their thugs then by all means wade into this cess pool. And like you even have a chance of learning the truth from these scumbags.

On the other hand, if you regard those of the US government to be thieves and criminals, then well, I'm crying like Robbie Parker, just give me a moment to get into character..           hujel

WTFUD's picture

No need to be on the defensive! Those who wish to rubbish GW are the shit on our shoes. The creme de la creme of everything that's wrong with our world. The truth hurts! When the sheep awaken the rats will be exposed and held to account. None of us can take satisfaction from what is going on and even if GW is only 10% correct ( i believe 90%) he has provided a base from where we can all move forward in this shameful period in time.

The Heart's picture

"Those are the deeper truths regarding Benghazi."

Or, are there deeper truths regarding Benghazi?

The ultimate responsibility lies on the shoulders of the supposed elected servant puppet, soterobama. Perhaps he, along with his handler-masters planned this false flag event to cover up a more sinister part of this whole evil mishap? Was the head babylonian puppet well informed about this plan to make the little puppets al-cia-duh kidnap the ambassador? Maybe it was really mission accomplished by using the administrations own Muslim brotherhood/al-cia-duh/mercenaries to dispatch the ambassador because he knew of the weapons of mass destruction?

Prolly the same al-cia-duh that invaded Libya, Egypt, and Syria killed the ambassador as ordered to do because there was a loose end to be taken care of so he could not talk about the illegal weapons of mass destruction that were being illegally smuggled into Syria for the next stage of the US sponsored al-cia-duh invasion of yet another innocent country? Are these same chemical weapons taken from Libya and Egypt the ones being used by the al-cia-duh mercenaries in Syria now, and being blamed on the Assad administration? Do they say, made in the USA on them?

kchrisc's picture

Obama is CIA, Hillary is the Pentagon's bitch (William is the CIA's). The dead in Libya were CIA and CIA connected. The head of the CIA at the time was Pentagon. Dot, dot, dot and the picture appears: the Pentagon let it happen and the CIA, including Obama, is taking out those it holds responsible.

Just more power elite fun and games.                 hujel

BinAround's picture

In ages past, the feudal masters were feared and loathed.  Revolutions toppled them when their grip was loosened, only to be replace by worse regimes.  The masses could only dream of being free from the oppressive governments.

Today, the masses cheer for more governement.  Cheer for more police/marshall law.  The citizenry is dumbed down more than the medieval street sweeper. 

If it were not for spring, flowering magnolia trees, pretty girls in dresses, I'd be despondent.  

swedish etrade baby's picture

When I a read about the murder of stevenson I was thought about something that happened in maser al sharif. Two scandinavians and several ghurka soldiers were killed in an attack against an UN posting. The events have several similarities.

1. The victims were hiding

2. The attacks were happaned during protests  against some blasphemous act against islam

3. The gaurds were not allowed to engage the attackers

Dugald's picture


Somebody wanted an incident, and they got it....but why? or was it just dickheads  playing the Great Game?

Winston Smith 2009's picture

Well, well, well.  The evidence for what I suspected and posted here way back when everyone was first going ballistic about Benghazi is finally coming out.  It was so obvious to me at the time.  Why wouldn't the US respond to the attack when they so easily could have?  Perhaps because the attack was in retaliation for a covert CIA program where the special forces "WMD hunters" who were killed in the attack in Libya were actually there to also ship useful weapons to the Syrian rebels and "upper management levels" were concerned that the likely very professional attackers were also setting up another "Blackhawk Down" sort of situation had the US responded, thereby drawing even more unwanted attention to the attack and the covert CIA operation.  It's not like the CIA hasn't done exactly this sort of thing many times in the past, shipping weapons from an ended conflict to an ongoing one.  Duh!

tip e. canoe's picture

OT - GDub, you're needed in Aisle 7, AxM dug up a good one.

The Swiss are Coming!

Inbetween is pain's picture

YAWN.  Why does George and this crap get top billing at ZH?

madcows's picture

where is the coverage of today's hearings?

Lugnut's picture

They screwed the pooch on asssessing the danger, they screwed the pooch on sending reinfocements, and the state dept didn't want too say there was a terrorist attack right before the election, so they trotted out Rice. End of story. I'm still not totally buying the gun running angle, without some real sources. Certainly plausible, but not proven...yet.

the grateful unemployed's picture

he's serious about Syria, check out Gadafi, and Mubarak. check out his Peace Prize. check that bubble of vomit at the back of your throat.

Quinvarius's picture

I think the reality is that Hilary Clinton and Obama blew the situation off because they were not experienced enough to take it seriously in a vacuum of definitive information.  And certainly in Hillary's case, she probably never even tried to get good intel.

AGuy's picture

Its likely much more than gross incompetence. Africacom clearly forbid special forces from providing aid. If it was incompentence they would have just persued hearing to discuss policy changes to prevent future incidents, and perhaps some lackys would have taken the blame. This is something more.


scraping_by's picture

Oh, and Barry leaves details to people who do things. He's just the front.

Quinvarius's picture

Yes.  In this case he depended on Hillary to know how to do her job.  And she does not know or cre how to do her job unless it helps her get elected president.

scraping_by's picture

Since when does State run CIA operations? I thought it was the other way around.

Mike Cowan's picture

Spontaneous Protest Theory collapses. Obama/Hillary Ingnorance Theory collapses. National Appathy Theroy intact. (But thanks for trying the impossilbe)

OpTwoMistic's picture

You are depending on O  ?  lol

Divine Wind's picture



Excellent piece, George.

Thank you.

zipit's picture


De minimus's picture

No, the deep truth about  Benghazi is that Americans have elected a Marxist president by way of their almost fully Marxist media and entertainment industry, and they all have an ongoing love affair with Islamic terrorists and their fellow travellers.

So much so that they overturn governments for them, and get American and other personnel killed by them.

Were it not for the media assistance rendered to this administration, the non-reporting of facts running the entire breath of this government now, Obama would be gone and so would his friends.

But the media has done their job well for mother Russia and the communist cause/Kos. Only now do we see how well and in the near distance, the consequences thereof.

But it won't be reported upon of course.

ITrustMyGut's picture

marxist?? really? LOL


d00d...real power..cares not for the idealogical babble..


the end game is monopoly. of everything. the world in w va coal mines like status


once you understand the truth.. the end state...then the machiavellian bs inbetween ( means ) becomes meaningless.. like claims of marxism...


I wish it was so simple as fighting the "commies".. the "commies" you rail against.. wouldn't have existed with out Wall St / London financing... from Mao, Lenin, Trotsky.. all the way to Marx and Engalls themselves.. All sponsred with captial by zionist monopolists...

orangegeek's picture

I would imagine Bill is giving Hilary some pointers on being interrogated.




Now saying Clintons on its own has limited value, but if you use the tone Jerry Seinfeld used saying "Newman" it has a much better effect.

therearetoomanyidiots's picture

Sorry for essentially reiterating what Chupacabra posted (front page mag article) below....


Look, bottom line here is that minimally, Obama and Hillary, were responsible for what happened and what DIDN'T happen.   And another question, why was Stevens there in the first place, without support, meeting with a Turkish representative that evening.  That representative allowed to leave the compound before the madness brought on by the video struck the poor besmirched Muslims.  


Also, it is complete bullshit that Obama, or Hillary, 'didn't know'.   

Watch out now, because the two guys testifying are being labeled as malcontents because they didn't get specific posts.  


Diogenes's picture

US military can put a drone right through the front door of any house in the middle east then follow up 10 minutes later with another one to kill the rescuers. But can't protect their own embassy when it is under attack.

Only makes sense if their goal is something different from what they let on.

Clycntct's picture

 ++++ Truly a wake up statement.

TNTARG's picture

They're expendable.

To the élite we're all expendable, no matter wether it's a muslim jihaddist or a US ambassador or a foreign president or wathever.

They have no loyalty, no moral, no principles, no country, no ethic, none. I bet they had a drink over the dead ambassador. Another useful idiot, "collateral damage", no a loss at all.

Acknowledge that: there's plenty of evidence.

Fukushima Sam's picture

Where's my knife?  Someone needs an ass-raping!

Warning: the YouTube video is perhaps even more disturbing than the article.

TNTARG's picture

Ah, the Freedom Fighters!

I found it much alike GTMO prisioners.

The important thing is to promote Democracy!

Watch this... We need to use our brains.

They WILL be punished for their crimes against Humanity.

Bastiat's picture

Hillary in her sociopathic glory.  I wonder if she had a moment like that after Waco too?  I understand she was very involved which Reno threatened to reveal if the Clintons tried to throw her under the bus.

Joe Davola's picture

The Clinton's producing a sequel.  Same plot - deny, deny, deny, trickle out information, cloak ones' self in righteous indignation.

Been there, done that.

shovelhead's picture

Shakes head in disbelief.

Everyone forgot the ONE important thing? THE ELECTION.

Better to have a small manageable cluster-fuck than a full guns blazing Blackhawk Down possibility and/or questions that Stevens was funneling arms and 'freedom fighters' to Syria that might cost some Electoral College votes. Obama knew we had dead Americans and went out fundraising.

7 weeks to an election is forever to the spin doctors.

I love convoluted conspiracies as much as the next guy, but sometimes you have to ask Qui Bono.

Dead guys, bad terrorists, end of story for now. See? It worked.

Hedgetard55's picture

Obama threw them under the choomwagon for election purposes, no doubt of that. Barry, Hillary! and Panetta all need to be tried for treason.

Chupacabra-322's picture

Leon Panetta said we didn’t have real time information as to what was happening, so we didn’t want to send troops that might get hurt. Generals have said that made no sense. Nothing Obama’s administration says makes any sense. It’s an obvious coverup. Hillary said who cares what happened. That’s nonsensical. We have a government that covers up and pretends no one cares. Benghazi is Watergate on steroids. Watergate was about a 3rd rate burglary, probably to find dirt on Democrats. Benghazi was letting 4 Americans be murdered, while our “commander-in-chief” went to sleep, rested well, not concerned about an attack on our embassy, except for how to blame it all on an obscure film maker, who is still in prison over this. Obama sounded so insulted when Romney suggested Obama was playing politics over Benghazi. Candy Crowley and our news media covered up that Obama would not call it terrorism or 10 days, until it became too obvious. Hillary runs in the polls as our next president. Obama will repay her in 2016, for her loyalty and lying over Benghazi. Hillary had Vincent Foster murdered. She would not think twice about letting 4 Americans be murdered. Obama personally decides who dies each week with drones. We have mass murderers in this administration. Janet is stockpiling weapons for use against Americans. Obama wants to use drones on Americans. The government has declared war on the American people, but keep covering up, and concealing the murders of 4 Americans in Benghazi. Carney’s comments translated might be “we kill people and Americans all the time, and lie about it, what’s the big deal?”

therearetoomanyidiots's picture


However, this will be white washed, too.   They've already painted these two 'whistle blowers' as malcontents that didn't get desired positions.

Further, Fox news and the rest STILL are referring to the investigative body as the 'republican led' panel, which of course is code words to the sheep and sycophants that this is all just a republican political stunt and should be ignored.  

I do hope that I'm wrong.

Freddie's picture

I dumped TV years ago.  Conservatives think Fox News is there friend.  They are backed by Saudi money aka Al Waleed.  Americans have no friends in TV or Hollywood.   Pure evil.

Dewey Cheatum Howe's picture

Cables back up their alleged assertations.....


AnAnonymous's picture

Gaddafi was figthing Al Qaeda. He made that claim. Which appeared to be truth.

Welcome to an 'american' world, where people like Gaddafi are truth speakers.

It is a cosy place to live in, you'll see.

Chupacabra-322's picture

“In this report, you learn that in March 2011, American diplomat Christopher Stevens was stationed in Benghazi as the American liaison to Libya’s “opposition” rebels — among whom were many al Qaeda-affiliated jihadists – who were fighting to topple the longstanding regime of President Muammar Qaddafi. In short, the Obama administration elected to support individuals and groups that were allied ideologically and tactically with al Qaeda.

Following Qaddafi’s fall from power in the summer of 2011, Ambassador Stevens was tasked with finding and securing the vast caches of powerful armaments which the Libyan dictator had amassed during his long reign. In turn, Stevens helped facilitate the transfer of these arms to the “opposition” rebels in Syria who were trying to topple yet another Arab dictator—Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. As in Libya, the rebels in Syria were likewise known to include al Qaeda and other Shariah-supremacist groups. In addition to facilitating arms transfers, Stevens’ duties also included the recruitment of Islamic jihadists from Libya and elsewhere in North Africa who were willing to personally go into combat against the Assad regime in Syria. The U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi served as a headquarters from which all the aforementioned activities could be coordinated with officials and diplomats from such countries as Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar.

As 2012 progressed, violent jihadist activity became increasingly commonplace in Benghazi. At or near the U.S. mission, for instance, there were many acts of terrorism featuring the use of guns, improvised explosive devices, hand grenades, rocket-propelled grenades, and car-bombs, to say nothing of the explicit threats against Americans issued by known terrorists like al Qaeda chief Ayman al-Zawahiri. As a result of such developments, Ambassador Stevens and others at the U.S. mission repeatedly asked the Obama administration for increased security provisions during 2012, but these requests were invariably denied or ignored.

Then, on the night of September 11, 2012, the U.S. mission in Benghazi was attacked by a large group of heavily armed terrorists who, over the course of seven hours, murdered four Americans and laid waste to the U.S. mission.

Source Article: What Really Happened in Benghazi: Before, During, and After
January 24, 2013 By Discover The Networks – Copyright © 2013 · FRONTPAGEMAG.COM

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BlackVoid's picture

This is actually pretty simple. The US attacked itself (again) via proxies and made it look like enemy action.

I think all action that was attributed to terrorists is/was the same.

My guess is that in this particular case this was done to destroy evidence.

ebworthen's picture

None of the rapaciously arrogant power and mammon lusting politicians on either side care about our Men and Women in Uniform.

Why we haven't had a military coup to cut the head off the two-headed hydra and restore the Constitution I don't understand.

johnnymustardseed's picture

How come no investigations by Republicans when these attacks took place?

Like in 2002 when the US Consulate in the Karachi, Pakistan, was attacked and 10 were killed?

Or in 2004 when the US embassy in Uzbekistan was attacked and two were killed and another nine injured?

How about in 2004, when the US Consulate in Saudi Arabia was stormed and 8 lost their lives?

There is more: In 2006, armed men attacked the US Embassy in Syria and one was murdered.

Then in 2007 a grenade was thrown at the US Embassy in Athens.

In 2008, the US Embassy in Serbia was set on fire.

In 2008, bombings in the US Embassy in Yemen killed 10.

overmedicatedundersexed's picture

johnny, blue team red team still thinking in duality. still can't come to grip with the reality of one team in DC?

no excuse for you - you have been on zh long ability to change your stance to grow to face a reality outside of D vs R.

johnnymustardseed's picture

Over, republicans did vote down addtional funding for security for emabassies... My feelings is shut all embassies. We can drone any country we want now anyways

therearetoomanyidiots's picture

God bless you for saying what had to be said to Johnny.

Let's not forget also that this is ultimately ALL about petrodollars.  

Colonial Intent's picture

Since when has the MIC given two shits about the constitution?

Ike warned you about this.........