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Benghazi: New Evidence Emerges
The Administration announced after the Benghazi attack that a protest by Muslims had turned violent.
The Administration also stated that there was nothing which could have been done to save the people killed within the consulate.
But the number 2 American official in Libya – Deputy Chief of Mission in Libya Gregory Hicks, who became the Chief of Mission after Ambassador Christopher Stevens was killed – says everyone who worked at the Benghazi consulate thought it was a terrorist attack from the get-go:
Similarly, Democratic Congressman Stephen Lynch agrees that the U.S. talking points after the Benghazi attack were false:
Congressman Daryl Issa notes that the U.S. ignored requests for more security, and theorized that the motive was to underplay the danger from terrorism:
More disturbing are tales of the lack of assistance from the U.S. As CBS News reports:
Throughout the night, sources say Americans on the ground in Libya at times felt helpless and abandoned.
“We relied on Washington for dispassionate assessment,” one eyewitness told CBS News. “Instead, they [Washington officials] were asking us what help we needed. We answered: ‘Send reinforcements!’ ”
But they were told immediate help wasn’t available.
Embassy personnel say they repeatedly asked the Defense Attache on site in Tripoli for military assistance.
“Isn’t there anything available?” one Embassy official says he asked. “But the answer was ‘no.’”
“What about Aviano?” the official pressed, referencing the NATO air base with US assets in northeastern Italy. “No,” was the answer.
Two of the four Americans killed that night died hours after the first attack began…
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Counterterrorism sources and internal emails reviewed by CBS News express frustration that key responders were ready to deploy, but were not called upon to help in the attack. National Security Council Spokesman Tommy Vietor told CBS News the CSG was not needed.
But most devastating of all is Hicks’ testimony that the U.S. prevented rescuers from reaching Benghazi. As CBS News reports:
The deputy of slain U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens has told congressional investigators that a team of Special Forces prepared to fly from Tripoli to Benghazi during the Sept. 11, 2012 attacks was forbidden from doing so by U.S. Special Operations Command Africa.
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Hicks told investigators that SOCAFRICA commander Lt. Col. Gibson and his team were on their way to board a C-130 from Tripoli for Benghazi prior to an attack on a second U.S. compound “when [Col. Gibson] got a phone call from SOCAFRICA which said, ‘you can’t go now, you don’t have the authority to go now.’ And so they missed the flight … They were told not to board the flight, so they missed it.”
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Hicks told congressional investigators that if the U.S. had quickly sent a military aircraft over Benghazi, it might have saved American lives. The U.S. Souda Bay Naval Base is an hour’s flight from Libya.
“I believe if we had been able to scramble a fighter or aircraft or two over Benghazi as quickly as possible after the attack commenced, I believe there would not have been a mortar attack on the annex in the morning because I believe the Libyans would have split. They would have been scared to death that we would have gotten a laser on them and killed them,” Hicks testified. Two Americans died in the morning mortar attack.
The Real Story at Benghazi
The U.S. supported opposition which overthrew Libya’s Gadaffi was largely comprised of Al Qaeda terrorists.
According to a 2007 report by West Point’s Combating Terrorism Center’s center, the Libyan city of Benghazi was one of Al Qaeda’s main headquarters – and bases for sending Al Qaeda fighters into Iraq – prior to the overthrow of Gaddafi:
The Hindustan Times reported in 2011:
“There is no question that al Qaeda’s Libyan franchise, Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, is a part of the opposition,” Bruce Riedel, former CIA officer and a leading expert on terrorism, told Hindustan Times.
It has always been Qaddafi’s biggest enemy and its stronghold is Benghazi.
Al Qaeda is now largely in control of Libya. Indeed, Al Qaeda flags were flown over the Benghazi courthouse once Gaddafi was toppled.
(Incidentally, Gaddafi was on the verge of invading Benghazi in 2011, 4 years after the West Point report cited Benghazi as a hotbed of Al Qaeda terrorists. Gaddafi claimed – rightly it turns out – that Benghazi was an Al Qaeda stronghold and a main source of the Libyan rebellion. But NATO planes stopped him, and protected Benghazi.)
CNN, the Telegraph, the Washington Times, and many other mainstream sources confirm that Al Qaeda terrorists from Libya have since flooded into Syria to fight the Assad regime.
Mainstream sources also confirm that the Syrian opposition is largely comprised of Al Qaeda terrorists. (Indeed, the New York Times reported last week that virtually all of the rebel fighters are Al Qaeda terrorists.)
The U.S. has been arming the Syrian opposition since 2006. The post-Gaddafi Libyan government is also itself a top funder and arms supplier of the Syrian opposition.
This brings us to the murder of ambassador Stevens …
The Wall Street Journal, Telegraph and other sources confirm that the US consulate in Benghazi was mainly being used for a secret CIA operation.
They say that the State Department presence in Benghazi “provided diplomatic cover” for the previously hidden CIA mission. (WND alleges that it was not a real consulate.)
Reuters notes that the CIA mission involved finding and repurchasing heavy weaponry looted from Libyan government arsenals.
Business Insider reports that Stevens may have been linked with Syrian terrorists:
There’s growing evidence that U.S. agents—particularly murdered ambassador Chris Stevens—were at least aware of heavy weapons moving from Libya to jihadist Syrian rebels.
In March 2011 Stevens became the official U.S. liaison to the al-Qaeda-linked Libyan opposition, working directly with Abdelhakim Belhadj of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group—a group that has now disbanded, with some fighters reportedly participating in the attack that took Stevens’ life.
In November 2011 The Telegraph reported that Belhadj, acting as head of the Tripoli Military Council, “met with Free Syrian Army [FSA] leaders in Istanbul and on the border with Turkey” in an effort by the new Libyan government to provide money and weapons to the growing insurgency in Syria.
Last month The Times of London reported that a Libyan ship “carrying the largest consignment of weapons for Syria … has docked in Turkey.” The shipment reportedly weighed 400 tons and included SA-7 surface-to-air anti-craft missiles and rocket-propelled grenades.
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Reuters reports that Syrian rebels have been using those heavy weapons to shoot down Syrian helicopters and fighter jets.
The ship’s captain was “a Libyan from Benghazi and the head of an organization called the Libyan National Council for Relief and Support,” which was presumably established by the new government.
That means that Ambassador Stevens had only one person—Belhadj—between himself and the Benghazi man who brought heavy weapons to Syria.
Furthermore, we know that jihadists are the best fighters in the Syrian opposition, but where did they come from?
Last week The Telegraph reported that a FSA commander called them “Libyans” when he explained that the FSA doesn’t “want these extremist people here.”
And if the new Libyan government was sending seasoned Islamic fighters and 400 tons of heavy weapons to Syria through a port in southern Turkey—a deal brokered by Stevens’ primary Libyan contact during the Libyan revolution—then the governments of Turkey and the U.S. surely knew about it.
Furthermore there was a CIA post in Benghazi, located 1.2 miles from the U.S. consulate, used as “a base for, among other things, collecting information on the proliferation of weaponry looted from Libyan government arsenals, including surface-to-air missiles” … and that its security features “were more advanced than those at rented villa where Stevens died.”
And we know that the CIA has been funneling weapons to the rebels in southern Turkey. The question is whether the CIA has been involved in handing out the heavy weapons from Libya.
In other words, ambassador Stevens may have been a key player in deploying Libyan terrorists and arms to fight the Syrian government.
Other sources also claim that the U.S. consulate in Benghazi was mainly being used as a CIA operation to ship fighters and arms to Syria.
Many have speculated that – if normal security measures weren’t taken to protect the Benghazi consulate or to rescue ambassador Stevens – it was because the CIA was trying to keep an extremely low profile to protect its cover of being a normal State Department operation.
That is what I think really happened at Benghazi.
Was CIA Chief David Petraeus’ Firing Due to Benghazi?
CIA boss David Petraeus suddenly resigned, admitting to an affair. But Petraeus was scheduled to testify under oath the next week before power House and Senate committees regarding the Benghazi consulate. Many speculate that it wasn’t an affair – but the desire to avoid testifying on Benghazi – which was the real reason for Petraeus’ sudden resignation.
The Big Picture
Whatever the scope of the CIA’s operation in Benghazi – and whatever the real reason for the resignation of the CIA chief – the key is our historical and ongoing foreign policy.
For decades, the U.S. has backed terrorists for geopolitical ends. For decades, the U.S. has backed the most radical, fundamentalist, violent Muslims.
The U.S. government has been consistently planning regime change in Syria, Libya and Iran for 20 years, and dreamed of regime change – using false flag terror – for 50 years.
Obama has simply re-packaged Bush and the Neocons’ “war on terror” as a series of humanitarian wars.
Liberals rightfully lambast Bush for getting us into the disastrous Iraq war.
But Obama has in fact launched wars in Libya, Syria, Yemen, Pakistan … and up to 35 African nations (and see this).
Obama – citing a Nixon administration official’s justification for invading Cambodia – has claimed his power extends into every country in the world … well beyond those where we are engaged in hostilities.
Obama has dramatically escalated the use of drone assassinations, which are creating many more terrorists than they are killing. The former chief military prosecutor at Guantanamo says that Obama’s drone surge is as damaging to our country as Bush’s torture program. I think he’s actually underestimating damage from the program, as drones have become the number 1 recruiting tool for Al Qaeda (especially since children are now being targeted for drone assassination … Oh, and torture is still happening on Obama’s watch; background).
And the Obama administration has probably supported even more terrorists – in Libya, Syria and elsewhere – than Bush. See this, this, this, this and this.
In other words, both GOP and Dem politicians are supporting destability, terrorism and war.
Those are the deeper truths regarding Benghazi.
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: "In other words, both GOP and Dem politicians are supporting destability, terrorism and war."
Both parties are puppets for the Israel Lobby and the military industrial complex.
Isreal/Saudi Lobby
Yes. They are close allies. The Saudi Royals are supposedly the same tribe aka they are Iraqi jews.
Who created Al Qaeda? Simply connect the dots. The CIA was their Dr.Frankenstein. The US has been funding them since 1979. They have been used by the "Black Books & Spooks" to accomplish their hidden agendas ever since. Do you really believe all of these "Arab Springs" were the result of a mass demand of the people for democracy? If so, I have some Ocean front property in Arizona to sell you for a song. The whole intent is to replace the Cold War, and create a domestic police, surveillance state here. Our economy is war, not manufacturing cars, appliances, tools, etc, etc, etc. Healthcare and War is our economy now. Iran and North Korea were not enough. They needed an entire region to feed the war machine, and they got it now.
Fall of the Empire or fall of the Republic? I say we are witnessing the fall of the Republic, the Empire may just be beginning in the New World Order.
Obama = Julius Caesar?
The 'american' empire has We The People as its masters.
Figureheads in charge are mere servants to We The People, figureheads who relentlessly belly dance to get the approval and consent of the governed aka the 'american' middle class.
Yes we would be much better off with some ruling body of elitist twats ruling over us, oh wait that's what we have now. Look you've driveled all over yourself...
Who could believe that drivel?
George Carlin did........
"Now, there's one thing you might have noticed I don't complain about: politicians. Everybody complains about politicians. Everybody says they suck. Well, where do people think these politicians come from? They don't fall out of the sky. They don't pass through a membrane from another reality. They come from American parents and American families, American homes, American schools, American churches, American businesses and American universities, and they are elected by American citizens. This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It's what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain't going to do any good; you're just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it's not the politicians who suck. Maybe something else sucks around here... like, the public. Yeah, the public sucks. There's a nice campaign slogan for somebody: 'The Public Sucks. Fuck Hope.'"
I only hope he RIP.
I miss George Carlin.
Hardly,
Nero perhaps?, he seems to have about as much real power.
I like this game....
Bush = Galba
Clinton = Pompey
Ike = Marius
This will come to NOTHING. The entire Media Industrial Complex has their collective mouths wrapped around Obama's dick. This reminds me of the whole fake ass "occupy movement" who was 3 years too late to the party... AFTER the money was already handed out to the Banks and cronies thru TARP. All this info is a day late and a dollar short. Where was it in October?
It was the same with bush the younger.
911 ushered in and made cognizant the shadow govt, the people with real power.
Reading between the lines, the world can be thankful that other than the Kosovo skirmish Bungalow Bill Clinton was more interested in pulling down his zipper than engaging in murderous acts against mankind unlike the bastards before and after him! Mind you he managed to quench the thirst for blood by the bankers repealing a certain financial act. A lover not a fighter. In God We Trust
Good old Bill bombed Serbia on the insistence of his wife. Why? To distract attention from him being caught with his cigar in Lewinsky's snatch.
Really, did you not see the ethnic cleansing going on?
Otpor!
You mean Otpor that went to Egypt and Tunesia during the 'Arab spring'? That Otpor? And are you refering to the ethnic cleansing of Serb, Roma and other non Albanians?
The KLA until 1997 was on the US list of terrorist organizations. In 1998 it was off. In 1999 Serbia got bombed. The KLA was trained, financed and supplied with weapons by foreign operatives. Ex KLA members were now found fighting in Syria. Do you not connect the dots??
The KLA also buried children alive during the fighting in the break up of yugoslavia, before belgrade kicked off properly they had mercernaries/jihadis from the middle east way before the west went in.
Are you saying we stand by and do nothing while both sides commit atrocities, kla and croatia submitted to western/UN arbritation belgrade did not.
Otpor achieved more than all the wests smart bombs, sanctions or safe zones and at a very cheap price to the USA (who payrolled them)
Naturally someone like you would prefer to bomb them into the stone age but civilised minds have more subtle ways to achieve change with a lot less suffering, they removed russian and foriegn muslim presence in SE europe, exactly how is this a bad thing.
And of course egypt and tunisia had a counter revolution that was more repressive than the first, thats what happens, go read some lenin or marx on the subject of revolution or even go back to the french example of the red terror in paris.
Why would you prefer the previous admin in egypt or tunisia i know you yanks love a friendly dictator but they were more corrupt than one of your coppers.
Twas a quid pro quo take your jihadis away and we will talk with the kosovans about independance.
KLA are muslims, some of them will go off and join the (external) jihad to 'free' their brothers in faith.
I too wish the world was black and white, good and evil and all of life's problems were resolved by a single shootout within 48 minutes (not counting ad breaks).....BUT ITS NOT and pretending it is does you a disservice as a human being capable of independant and rational thought.
On a happier note...............
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeGlJ7OouR0
I am not a Yank. Milosevic was a crook and responded harshly on the attacks by the KLA. But the KLA was on purpose killing Serb and moderate Albanians. Why? Cause they knew they would get the backing of the US.
Croatia submitted to nothing. They didn't need to. They from the beginning had the backing of the US and of Germany. Because Yugoslavia had to disappear. So NATO used the model that is now being used in the ME: demonize one side, train and supply the other side, shout 'atrocity' followed by 'humanitary' intervention.
'Naturally someone like you would prefer to bomb them into the stone age'. Bombing the shit out of Serbia was exactly what they did after giving Milosevic an offer he could not accept: the total occupation of what remained of then Yugoslavia by NATO.NATO expected the campaign to last 48 HOURS but they had to bomb Serbia for 78 days and had to switch from bombing military targets (which they were not really hitting very well) to civilian targets. Milosevic gave in because he feared he would not have a country left to run (or ruin).
As a result of the bombing some 2 to 3 thousand people died. Civilian targets purposely bombed and an infrastructure of a country in ruins. Oh yeah, and the use of clusterbombs and depleted uranium. The latter is causing people in Kosovo to get sick and die.
You should ask people in Serbia what they think of Otpor now. Many if not most of them are completely desillusioned by them. Otpor gets credit for the overthrow of Milosevic but during the 90s, before Otpor, there were many mass demonstrations against Milosevic. It was only the destruction of the NATO campaign that brought the final blow. And what good did it do the Serbs for getting rid of Milosevic? Not that much, only neglect and humiliation for another decade and the permant loss of Kosovo and the ethnic cleaning of Serbs from that place.
People from Otpor after that went into politics or made big money with bringing counter revolutions to other places such as Georgia, Egypt and Tunesia. One Otpor member even got an island in the Maldives for services rendered to the government there!
But have a look at the situation in Egypt now, how the human rights are for non-muslems, women, etc. Is that Otpor's doing as well?
NATO thought that a single shoot out of 48 hours would do the trick but as you said, it's not. They had to completely destroy a country to achieve their goal. And they learned to live with it and are now applying it to other places where they want regime change (after the dictators that suited them no longer are of use).
They were outgunned out manned and outspent, how else would they survive other than bringing in external actors.
If you were the albanians what would you have done?
USA dont care what happened to otpor after milo was gone they only needed them to serve their purpose for a short time.
In what world does the eu want a russian enclave inside its borders, change was inevitible, yugoslavia needed to end, i still claim less people died by using otpor than NATO bombs.
I feel we are arguing about how many and what type of eggs you should use to make an omlette.
The original disagreement was over billy blowjobs use of the war as an excuse to distract from his BJ.
Thats not how it works, they had been trying for years to change yugoslavia to EU advantage, billy only joined in on the guarantee that american infantry wouldnt get involved in any actual fighting.
Just like iraq was planned before 911.
Otpor was a cleverly designed operation lead by foreign agencies but Otpor was of no consequence of lowering the body count, not at all . The plan has always been to take Kosovo away from Serbia for geopolitical reasons and the West did everything to make that happen.
Bill Clinton was very reluctant to bomb Serbia. His wife encouraged him. At the time whe whole Lewinsky and impeachment case was playing. Of course he needed a diversion. Politicians always do that.
The model used for Yugoslavia is now being used for other places. It is not about right or wrong, it is just about power. Dictators, allies and countries are tolerated until they lose their purpose and then it is time for ' regime change' . The world has not changes since the times of the ancient Greeks except that the weapons are more powerfull.
I'm sure if you dig deep enough you can find dirt in Kosovo, dirt on Wild Bill's hands.
Don't forget about the first failed attempt at the WTC bombing. Where Osama was implicated and Bill had him on a silver platter but let him go. Just because the FBI underestimated the amount of C4 it would take to bring the building down doesn't mean the intention wasn't there.
Bill and Hillary were busy fucking other people and killing Vince Foster, Ron Brown, and the other "danglers".
But Obama has in fact launched wars in Libya, Syria, Yemen, Pakistan … and up to 35 African nations (and see this).
Niger = uranium mines.
The uranium they've already dug up may well kill us all before the greed-sick fucks can dig up Niger.
Those aren't wars silly.Like Vietnam, not declared by congress. They're just military action.
You saw what happened when the fearless congressional commitee had Hilliary in their sites. According to the MSM she turned the tables on them and scolded them for wanting to know the truth! What difference does it make, indeed. Please Lord make haste to rid us of this vile creature.
Ask, and it should be given unto you.
Here comes round two.
The truth is never ending...but the lies are.
The Day They Drove Old Hillary Down–Benghazi-Gate Obama Clinton Cover-up Blown — Rice, Clinton, Obama Lied To American People and The World — Americans Died — Videos:
http://raymondpronk.wordpress.com/2013/05/07/the-day-they-drove-old-hill...
And here is a kicker from this report linked below.
"This bold-faced lie was foisted on a global audience two weeks after it was “self-evident” that the Benghazi attack was conducted by terrorists, according to Obama’s own public relations flack, Jay Carney. But Obama’s video-attack-causation lie to the UN is apparently exposed as mendacity by Obama himself in the second presidential debate with Mitt Romney on October 16th when he asserted:
Obama: "The day after the attack, governor, I stood in the Rose Garden and I told the American people in the world that we are going to find out exactly what happened -- that this was an act of terror -- and I also said that we're going to hunt down those who committed this crime."
Romney: "I think interesting the president just said something, which is that on the day after the attack he went into the Rose Garden and said that this was an act of terror."
Obama: "That's what I said."
Romney: "You said in the Rose Garden the day after the attack, it was an act of terror. It was not a spontaneous demonstration, is that what you're saying?"
Obama: "Please proceed, governor."
Romney: "I want to make sure we get that for the record because it took the president 14 days before he called the attack in Benghazi an act of terror."
Obama: "Get the transcript."
Analysis Of Obama's Benghazigate Cover-up:
http://www.rightsidenews.com/2012112631460/editorial/rsn-pick-of-the-day...
What are those crazy luciferic loony-tune banksters going to do next?
Unfortunately all the new age Women like my Sisters will vote for Hillary even if she sprouts horns and quotes Mao, Hitler, and Stalin - because she's a WOMAN.
I dunno. I'd like to see the results of the last physical exam.
Bet she doesn't get anywhere near 90% like the carefully considered, not racist and unbiased aa community voted for O bummer
I'd love to the text of the GW click bait evidence of that...
"Over 90% of African Americans are admitted racists (see this, this, and this)"
oh well, stylistic differences...
I have no problem with 'blacks' lookin out for blacks... or niggas not likin whitey too much...
now... if only us 'whites' were allowed the same options - by the kosher kultural supremacists who write our media narratives and control the dialogue in every facet... of phony political correctness...
I bet we'd all work out a way of jus gettin along... and bury the whole issue which talmudist racial supremacy doctrine has used to create phony divisions... fo'ever!
Caller into Sean Hannity show was supposedly one of the camera operators of a drone that was over Benghazi the night of the murders...very interesting.
http://nicedeb.wordpress.com/2013/05/06/audio-benghazi-drone-operator-to-hannity-we-were-not-allowed-to-be-armed-that-night/
Related: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012/10/28/retired-lt-col-my-sources-say-obama-was-in-the-room-watching-benghazi-attack-happen/
The response for and withholding of help smells of the Liberty incident.
Benghazi...we can only hope for a TWOFER: Obama's impeachment and permanently neutering Hilary
They should be arrested for treason, If anyone else did this including the fellow NWO Bushes/Clinton or even Reagan - I would be saying the same thing. If ANYONE pulled what Obama and Hillary pulled - they should be arrested and tried by a military court.
And treated as treasoners are treated...even if it's a 'political stunt' to assure the sheeple that we don't tolerate treason.
Oh wait, GWB...never mind.
Just like the trials held over the Liberty atrocity and its cover up? Oh yeah . . .
The deputy of slain U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens has told congressional investigators that a team of Special Forces prepared to fly from Tripoli to Benghazi during the Sept. 11, 2012 attacks was forbidden from doing so by U.S. Special Operations Command Africa.
It's OK to send in hit squads to kill "suspects", but not OK to defend your fellow countrymen? That is a sad situation and I hope Obama and Hillary and others eventually pay the price by being tried in a regular court of law, not some congressional quizzing. I guess I am dreaming.
There's never a drone around when ya need one...
There actually was but it was not armed.
To me, this is the real question here. Why were they told to stand down? I don't buy so that the CIA could lay low. Who doesn't know the CIA is in every country? To me, it seems the only answer is whomever ordered the stand down wanted Stevens dead. I think he found out what was going on and he was going to blow the whistle. Call me crazy, just a hypothesis. Dead men don't talk. What do I know?
Edit: Ok, after reading down through the comments apparently I'm not the only one. ZH, you people get it.
Applying Occam's Razor: Letting a group of CIA/contractors die likely was the cleanest solution on the eve of the election. No messy Blackhawk down type incident to mess up momentum in the polls. Some of the other speculations on the board here were probably icing on the cake from the perspective of the decisionmakers.
+1....... Yup!
Plenty more fodder........ from where they came from!
It wasn't Spec Ops who denied the request. It came from the State Department. Wait until what comes out in tommorrow's hearings.
Look for Leon Panetta to take the fall for Hillary and Obama.
I dunno, he's a bit of a worm. Treason carries a heavy penalty after all.
Oh, wait, Obama can pardon him for his 'life of service' to the country.
In otherwords Obama will say, 'Suck my dick, America"