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Benghazi: New Evidence Emerges
The Administration announced after the Benghazi attack that a protest by Muslims had turned violent.
The Administration also stated that there was nothing which could have been done to save the people killed within the consulate.
But the number 2 American official in Libya – Deputy Chief of Mission in Libya Gregory Hicks, who became the Chief of Mission after Ambassador Christopher Stevens was killed – says everyone who worked at the Benghazi consulate thought it was a terrorist attack from the get-go:
Similarly, Democratic Congressman Stephen Lynch agrees that the U.S. talking points after the Benghazi attack were false:
Congressman Daryl Issa notes that the U.S. ignored requests for more security, and theorized that the motive was to underplay the danger from terrorism:
More disturbing are tales of the lack of assistance from the U.S. As CBS News reports:
Throughout the night, sources say Americans on the ground in Libya at times felt helpless and abandoned.
“We relied on Washington for dispassionate assessment,” one eyewitness told CBS News. “Instead, they [Washington officials] were asking us what help we needed. We answered: ‘Send reinforcements!’ ”
But they were told immediate help wasn’t available.
Embassy personnel say they repeatedly asked the Defense Attache on site in Tripoli for military assistance.
“Isn’t there anything available?” one Embassy official says he asked. “But the answer was ‘no.’”
“What about Aviano?” the official pressed, referencing the NATO air base with US assets in northeastern Italy. “No,” was the answer.
Two of the four Americans killed that night died hours after the first attack began…
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Counterterrorism sources and internal emails reviewed by CBS News express frustration that key responders were ready to deploy, but were not called upon to help in the attack. National Security Council Spokesman Tommy Vietor told CBS News the CSG was not needed.
But most devastating of all is Hicks’ testimony that the U.S. prevented rescuers from reaching Benghazi. As CBS News reports:
The deputy of slain U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens has told congressional investigators that a team of Special Forces prepared to fly from Tripoli to Benghazi during the Sept. 11, 2012 attacks was forbidden from doing so by U.S. Special Operations Command Africa.
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Hicks told investigators that SOCAFRICA commander Lt. Col. Gibson and his team were on their way to board a C-130 from Tripoli for Benghazi prior to an attack on a second U.S. compound “when [Col. Gibson] got a phone call from SOCAFRICA which said, ‘you can’t go now, you don’t have the authority to go now.’ And so they missed the flight … They were told not to board the flight, so they missed it.”
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Hicks told congressional investigators that if the U.S. had quickly sent a military aircraft over Benghazi, it might have saved American lives. The U.S. Souda Bay Naval Base is an hour’s flight from Libya.
“I believe if we had been able to scramble a fighter or aircraft or two over Benghazi as quickly as possible after the attack commenced, I believe there would not have been a mortar attack on the annex in the morning because I believe the Libyans would have split. They would have been scared to death that we would have gotten a laser on them and killed them,” Hicks testified. Two Americans died in the morning mortar attack.
The Real Story at Benghazi
The U.S. supported opposition which overthrew Libya’s Gadaffi was largely comprised of Al Qaeda terrorists.
According to a 2007 report by West Point’s Combating Terrorism Center’s center, the Libyan city of Benghazi was one of Al Qaeda’s main headquarters – and bases for sending Al Qaeda fighters into Iraq – prior to the overthrow of Gaddafi:
The Hindustan Times reported in 2011:
“There is no question that al Qaeda’s Libyan franchise, Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, is a part of the opposition,” Bruce Riedel, former CIA officer and a leading expert on terrorism, told Hindustan Times.
It has always been Qaddafi’s biggest enemy and its stronghold is Benghazi.
Al Qaeda is now largely in control of Libya. Indeed, Al Qaeda flags were flown over the Benghazi courthouse once Gaddafi was toppled.
(Incidentally, Gaddafi was on the verge of invading Benghazi in 2011, 4 years after the West Point report cited Benghazi as a hotbed of Al Qaeda terrorists. Gaddafi claimed – rightly it turns out – that Benghazi was an Al Qaeda stronghold and a main source of the Libyan rebellion. But NATO planes stopped him, and protected Benghazi.)
CNN, the Telegraph, the Washington Times, and many other mainstream sources confirm that Al Qaeda terrorists from Libya have since flooded into Syria to fight the Assad regime.
Mainstream sources also confirm that the Syrian opposition is largely comprised of Al Qaeda terrorists. (Indeed, the New York Times reported last week that virtually all of the rebel fighters are Al Qaeda terrorists.)
The U.S. has been arming the Syrian opposition since 2006. The post-Gaddafi Libyan government is also itself a top funder and arms supplier of the Syrian opposition.
This brings us to the murder of ambassador Stevens …
The Wall Street Journal, Telegraph and other sources confirm that the US consulate in Benghazi was mainly being used for a secret CIA operation.
They say that the State Department presence in Benghazi “provided diplomatic cover” for the previously hidden CIA mission. (WND alleges that it was not a real consulate.)
Reuters notes that the CIA mission involved finding and repurchasing heavy weaponry looted from Libyan government arsenals.
Business Insider reports that Stevens may have been linked with Syrian terrorists:
There’s growing evidence that U.S. agents—particularly murdered ambassador Chris Stevens—were at least aware of heavy weapons moving from Libya to jihadist Syrian rebels.
In March 2011 Stevens became the official U.S. liaison to the al-Qaeda-linked Libyan opposition, working directly with Abdelhakim Belhadj of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group—a group that has now disbanded, with some fighters reportedly participating in the attack that took Stevens’ life.
In November 2011 The Telegraph reported that Belhadj, acting as head of the Tripoli Military Council, “met with Free Syrian Army [FSA] leaders in Istanbul and on the border with Turkey” in an effort by the new Libyan government to provide money and weapons to the growing insurgency in Syria.
Last month The Times of London reported that a Libyan ship “carrying the largest consignment of weapons for Syria … has docked in Turkey.” The shipment reportedly weighed 400 tons and included SA-7 surface-to-air anti-craft missiles and rocket-propelled grenades.
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Reuters reports that Syrian rebels have been using those heavy weapons to shoot down Syrian helicopters and fighter jets.
The ship’s captain was “a Libyan from Benghazi and the head of an organization called the Libyan National Council for Relief and Support,” which was presumably established by the new government.
That means that Ambassador Stevens had only one person—Belhadj—between himself and the Benghazi man who brought heavy weapons to Syria.
Furthermore, we know that jihadists are the best fighters in the Syrian opposition, but where did they come from?
Last week The Telegraph reported that a FSA commander called them “Libyans” when he explained that the FSA doesn’t “want these extremist people here.”
And if the new Libyan government was sending seasoned Islamic fighters and 400 tons of heavy weapons to Syria through a port in southern Turkey—a deal brokered by Stevens’ primary Libyan contact during the Libyan revolution—then the governments of Turkey and the U.S. surely knew about it.
Furthermore there was a CIA post in Benghazi, located 1.2 miles from the U.S. consulate, used as “a base for, among other things, collecting information on the proliferation of weaponry looted from Libyan government arsenals, including surface-to-air missiles” … and that its security features “were more advanced than those at rented villa where Stevens died.”
And we know that the CIA has been funneling weapons to the rebels in southern Turkey. The question is whether the CIA has been involved in handing out the heavy weapons from Libya.
In other words, ambassador Stevens may have been a key player in deploying Libyan terrorists and arms to fight the Syrian government.
Other sources also claim that the U.S. consulate in Benghazi was mainly being used as a CIA operation to ship fighters and arms to Syria.
Many have speculated that – if normal security measures weren’t taken to protect the Benghazi consulate or to rescue ambassador Stevens – it was because the CIA was trying to keep an extremely low profile to protect its cover of being a normal State Department operation.
That is what I think really happened at Benghazi.
Was CIA Chief David Petraeus’ Firing Due to Benghazi?
CIA boss David Petraeus suddenly resigned, admitting to an affair. But Petraeus was scheduled to testify under oath the next week before power House and Senate committees regarding the Benghazi consulate. Many speculate that it wasn’t an affair – but the desire to avoid testifying on Benghazi – which was the real reason for Petraeus’ sudden resignation.
The Big Picture
Whatever the scope of the CIA’s operation in Benghazi – and whatever the real reason for the resignation of the CIA chief – the key is our historical and ongoing foreign policy.
For decades, the U.S. has backed terrorists for geopolitical ends. For decades, the U.S. has backed the most radical, fundamentalist, violent Muslims.
The U.S. government has been consistently planning regime change in Syria, Libya and Iran for 20 years, and dreamed of regime change – using false flag terror – for 50 years.
Obama has simply re-packaged Bush and the Neocons’ “war on terror” as a series of humanitarian wars.
Liberals rightfully lambast Bush for getting us into the disastrous Iraq war.
But Obama has in fact launched wars in Libya, Syria, Yemen, Pakistan … and up to 35 African nations (and see this).
Obama – citing a Nixon administration official’s justification for invading Cambodia – has claimed his power extends into every country in the world … well beyond those where we are engaged in hostilities.
Obama has dramatically escalated the use of drone assassinations, which are creating many more terrorists than they are killing. The former chief military prosecutor at Guantanamo says that Obama’s drone surge is as damaging to our country as Bush’s torture program. I think he’s actually underestimating damage from the program, as drones have become the number 1 recruiting tool for Al Qaeda (especially since children are now being targeted for drone assassination … Oh, and torture is still happening on Obama’s watch; background).
And the Obama administration has probably supported even more terrorists – in Libya, Syria and elsewhere – than Bush. See this, this, this, this and this.
In other words, both GOP and Dem politicians are supporting destability, terrorism and war.
Those are the deeper truths regarding Benghazi.
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Guess Hillary and O, all blessings onto them, had a hand in this, d'u think?
- Ned
I see you have learned how to block the arrows little pig.
The American public DOESN'T CARE.
The world public DOESN'T CARE.
Case closed.
"Hicks told congressional investigators that if the U.S. had quickly sent a military aircraft over Benghazi, it might have saved American lives."
I don't know about the saving lives part. They probably would have bombed them and killed all witnesses.
Those guys on top of the building weren't painting a mortar crew for nothing, doing that reveals their position, unless it was "Hopeless" desperation.
Those mortars supposedly were pretty advanced too. My guess is were sold to the islamics by the USA. They were painting the whole time and no one on the other line would help. They could have had jets from Aviano there very quickly. The attack went on for 9 hours.
This is not political - people were left to die. Obama and Hillary need to go down for this. The Bushes/Clinton are the same NWO scum but Bush would have been forced out of office in a week over this.
GW, u b about a long time late on this, don't cha' know.
U b not as embarrased as Bob Schiefer, and he makes a whole bunch of money more than u.
But u try to b an "INVESTIGATIVE" "REPORTER"
'cha
- Ned
(EPIC FAIL}
((YEAR LATE, $1BB fiat SHORT}}
Why is Ned getting junked?
GW is late, Ned's right.
We've been saying this isn't about some fucking youtube video since the beginning. The Obama Administration was running guns to Syrian rebels from a CIA base in Benghazi and they left Americans in Benghazi >>>TO DIE<<< who did and were doing, EXACTLY as they were ordered.
(Note to The One, when accepting praise and adulation as "some sort of a God" don't let your inflated ego overide common sense & piss off the people you rely on to keep you on that pedestal, you never merited it to begin with, professor)
Always telling when the usual suspects fall all over themselves to dismiss the relevance of something which they'd rather not see being discussed in public...
better late than never... ned\newman&co. Find a relevant and real debating point to use in your useless polemics here... or retire from the field.
"Always telling when the usual suspects fall all over themselves to dismiss the relevance of something which they'd rather not see being discussed in public..."
Ok smartass, you sayin this was nothing but rabbis & CIA with RPG's & mortars on their way to a bar mitzva and decided to knock off some Mericuns on the way or what? It was Ned & I (and a few others) that said at that time that "demonstrators" don't show up for "a protest" carrying automatic weapons.
And I'm sure the date of the day it happened is completely lost on you as well. I mean what are the odds of that...like 365:1?...or is it more like 1:1 even money that something like this would be on that date?
Welcome back.... while you were out...
the world turned round on it's axis several times... and the same ol same ol tricks of the barkin dogs of sionist dissimulationist narrative lost leverage severely...
you'll piss n moan all over the place here about it... but likes I told you before newman...
you done. You don't get any more counter-arguments, nor attention. You have expended all credibility here.
Suggest you slink away with the rest of your crew... whilst the slinkin be good!
edit: lol...hit the vote button fores you go!
JOYLESS,
It would appear your time zone in this world is different from mine. Anything else you'd like to add to the subject at hand before I head off to work? You said nothing of import here.
I guess not.
Seeya
You go off to your cubicle... don't you get it yet? I'm here to look after those planted puppets who haven't already self-destructed... and still cultivate a semblance of legitimacy. You buried yours with Boston...
and no longer constitute a threat to public discourse... just nuisance value. BYE!
Come off it Joyful, nothing is settled about Boston, nor this topic, and if nmewn doesn't agree with you, that doesn't make him wrong, nor you right. You may be a 'fan' of GW, but if this were just the GW fan-boy consensus club, within zh </barf>, with no dissent and disagreements, it wouldn't be worth two 'effing cents.
It's only different views that moves things forward. In 'fight-club' you duke it out on merits and evidence. You don't swallow what's served-up, just because you're that way inclined, or prefer the person saying it, so lend your credulity to all they come out with.
That's not what we do here. ;)
jus sayin
Are you kidding me? Nmewn is a 911 truth denier. You can't trust or believe that he's even genuine, then, with anything he's saying, much less right.
Just in case you'd care to look into it, ol sock, I've been one of GW's most persistent critics over the past year. I'm no more a 'fan' of George than the average person here, and to suggest otherwise is to simply paint thetape to make your attempted point seem more viable...
and as to that point... this is my considered response...
the intensity and volume of the group effort to make a pre-judgement in the Boston false-flag event that was extremely prejudicial to the chances of either boy surviving... let alone receiving a fair trial was a major turning point on ZH. In my opinion.
That the effort was directed to making claims about a certain religious orientation which has been consistently vilified -in order to justify and fulfill a script that is in the interests only of a group of criminals whose identities are consistently concealed - ... and deliberately not discussed by the same group of individuals who vilified innocent until proven otherwise people and entire enthicities...
did not go unnoticed. Nor shall it go unrebuked. You may not have found that barking bloodlust to be repugnant... or foul play. That simply means that you have different standards than mine. All of those implicated in the terror error narrative of false witness against the Muslims here are guilty of criminal behaviour...imo... and at the very least should be charged with 'reckless endangerment' of the entire western world...
but not all are equally guilty... because not all are equally aware, and able to comprehend the depth of their crime. Newman was... and is; and therefore especially worthy of CONTEMPT. I don't say that lightly. Nor will I change my mind about that. They crossed a line three weeks ago. You don't live in my neighborhood... and therefore have no idea what this kind of hatred that pits people against each other will lead to.
What you do here... is your business. Telling me what we do here... is not your place. Think about it. Then get back to me if you want to pursue it further. I suspect that I have a pretty good grasp of what 'fight club is about chumly. And it's always about punching above the waist line.
Perhaps if a few more of you had of bothered at the time to defend the billion or so people who weren't here to defend themselves from scurrilous attack I would not be so militant about it... but at the time, there were very few who chose to stand up to the bullies here. Ergo what I wrote yesterday.
You need to get some medication, or at least pull you're head out of your arse for a bit. People are entitled to take whatever position seems correct to them (and you clearly have no idea what mine was, I suspect you totally presumed what other people's take was on it was, and 're-interpreted' what they wrote with the sort of warped BS that you've stated above).
I wasn't around zh for all of that period (I do other stuff, like work, and prep, and live 'n stuff and get some perspective on shit, you should try it - no, really!), but I read a fair bit of it, and I wrote a few things about it, and I'm not the slightest bit uncomfortable with anything I said buddy. I bet nmewn feels much the same.
But more to the point, not a damn thing said at zh will impact due-process, its propriety, or otherwise, for either of those two guys, directly, or indirectly.
What do you think? We say it hear, and shit happens there? Get a grip, this is a comment section, on a blog, not a court of law for alleged terrrriissssss's's. Get off your white horse and look around, you have no franchise on morality or ethics or ideals ... or ... or ... or whatever puritanical crapola your conjuring up this very second. Just get a grip, this is big boy world.
Either you've read none of the responses I've given to your three messages to me in the last two days(I've given you the courtesy of a reply each time - don't expect another)...
or your comprehension level is so low that there's nothing been taken on board. You are just ranting now... there is nothing close to a response to anything that I actually said in my reply to you. You and the discredited one can continue to chat in a compatible manner. You've nothing of interest at all to offer in this discussion. Perhaps start your own blog where you can direct traffic?
If you can't convince people of your viewpoint it may be because it's invalid, or you can't communicate it intelligibly.
But spare us the high-handed-wanker impressions.
wtf?!
Thanks for hangin out Element, I think you see what I see too.
You and I don't agree on everything but at least there is a basis for trust and understanding born of, the reality of evidence & logic.
And yes, I'm fine with another commission to look into what we disagree on, sometimes hotly...lol. My premise/theory has always been the coverup is, their own (federal governments) incompetence...from issuing the student visa's in the first place to not finding them when they overstayed and deporting them.
Its just too large, one hand doesn't know what the other is doing (or is prohibited from seeing what the other hand is doing) which is not to say we need a police state or desire one...we don't.
My opinion is, if we deisre to remain free we will have to accept sometimes someone will go nuts and kill people, for whatever reason.
If I were to be proven wrong (by another investigation, by competent people) I think you realize I would admit I was and I would be their worst enemy.
Very true, it's this politicizing paradigm of "never let a crisis go to waste", which turns the massacre into an MSM galactic-hyper-nova of political spin and amplifying over-reaction, and we can all see what's going on there, and the games being played. As for Boston, I don't know, that's the truth. And what I don't know does not lead to a conclusion. I'm happy to leave that one an open question indefinitely. I don't need to make any conclusion. I don't know why people who aren;t even directly involved are so quick (and foolishly easy) to pseudo-'conclude' something that they don't really know.
As for the other; I remain convinced on evidence, and lots of it, that it was a genuine false-flag event. Those do happen, we know they do, there is plenty that have been admitted to in the past. They do get planned, and they do get executed, and this was one of them my friend. I know you can't accept that, fine, but I would not take this position lightly, and I sure didn't.
And I am their worst enemy. ;)
"Very true, it's this politicizing paradigm of "never let a crisis go to waste", which turns the massacre into an MSM galactic-hyper-nova of political spin and amplifying over-reaction, and we can all see what's going on there, and the games being played."
Absolutely.
I couldn't believe people just saying, "Yeah, come on in! Look around my house."...without a warrant...for a nineteen year old, with or without a pistol? An entire city locked down. Fucking unreal.
Well, we'll disagree again I suppose on the false flag.
His own friends got rid of evidence (the mortar tubes, fireworks) in his dorm by their own admission. I don't blame them, I would too for a friend. They got the chinese guy making an ID on both of them as carjackers and the chinamans vehicle at the scene of a shootout and another improvised explosion.
Looks pretty ironclad, there is some things that can't be accounted for in the theory, after the fact.
"And I am their worst enemy. ;)"
I am too, in my own way, based on what is a known known ;-)
You misunderstood my last paragraph, that other matter of false-flag I was referring to is 911, not the Boston thing.
As I said, I have concluded nothing whatsoever about anything related to what happened in Boston, and I may never. Basically it's not worth my time when it's so nebulous. What I can say is I looked at it seriously for two days, and at some of the wide-eyed conspiracy claims being made, and I found many problems with those, and also with the images and videos being touted as "100% proof" of a false-flag attack or setup. They of course aren't 100% proof. I know we're all going to get inundated by people who say it is, or it isn't a conspiracy, but there's nothing I can see that makes a clear-cut case. And a stack of speculation that can't be tested, nor properly analyzed, is completely useless. Stuff I can't work out nor be sure of, I'm entirely prepared to leave unanswered. I may not even be able to know an answer, so I'll leave it. I'm not consequently even giving the mainstream narrative a "benefit of the doubt". I don't do that either. I have no compulsion or reason to select any conclusion or position on it, so I don't.
Frankly, if these guys had just used a truck to moe down the crowd no one would be much interested, it's only because it was a "bomb" that they're ACCUSED of ALLEGEDLY using to hurt people, that 99.9% of 'folks' completely freaked-out about it, and overreacted so much to it (including the police and politics) or else now carry on annoyingly about it, within zh (see several posts above).
Whatever. :D
I thought that was your position (on Boston from a previous) my bad.
Very true, if they had "allegedly" just jumped the curb while driving a truck it would have been a "tragic accident", probably the truck or manufacturers fault for building a truck capable of jumping curbs...lol.
cheers
"the intensity and volume of the group effort to make a pre-judgement in the Boston false-flag event that was extremely prejudicial to the chances of either boy surviving..."
There is no proof of a false flag. Any percieved group effort (percieved on your part, in the real world reality) was derived from the mounting evidence of guilt. One of the first things you nutcases said when it was discovered the younger brother had a jooo doctor was, he was as good as dead.
That didn't happen either, did it?
"That the effort was directed to making claims about a certain religious orientation which has been consistently vilified..."
Until catholics and protestants, bhuddists & taoists, agnostics & atheists start spontaneously cumbusting it will probably continue.
"-in order to justify and fulfill a script that is in the interests only of a group of criminals whose identities are consistently concealed -"
Your true identity is concealed isn't it?
"and deliberately not discussed by the same group of individuals who vilified innocent until proven otherwise people and entire enthicities..."
You mean like villifying all Jews? There is not a thread (or damned close to it) where if something bad happens it must be jooos. Evil kknows no boundaries, evil muslims, evil jews, evil catholics, evil protestants...thats what YOU can't wrap your head around JOYLESS.
"did not go unnoticed."
Because its all you ever look for.
"Nor shall it go unrebuked. You may not have found that barking bloodlust to be repugnant... or foul play."
I'll be the first to admit I wanted the perps for Boston killed. And I want it done with a pressure cooker bomb. Its called justice.
"That simply means that you have different standards than mine. All of those implicated in the terror error narrative of false witness against the Muslims here are guilty of criminal behaviour...imo... and at the very least should be charged with 'reckless endangerment' of the entire western world..."
So you judge someone guilty before any evidence is found of guilt. This is what your accusation is of me and others, yet there is basket fulls of evidence of these two low lifes doing exactly what they were and are charged with.
"but not all are equally guilty... because not all are equally aware, and able to comprehend the depth of their crime. Newman was... and is; and therefore especially worthy of CONTEMPT. I don't say that lightly. Nor will I change my mind about that. They crossed a line three weeks ago. You don't live in my neighborhood... and therefore have no idea what this kind of hatred that pits people against each other will lead to."
That sounds suspiciously like a threat.
So I'm guilty of some as yet undescribed "something" in your eyes, is that right JOYLESS? You fancy yourself as some sort of judge, jury, prosecutor & executioner even as you rail against the very practice.
You don't live in my neighborhood either spud. You might be surprised by those who do. They come from everywhere, even muslims, dickhead.
You are beneath my contempt JOYLESS. I always considered you as just another odd duck with too much time on his hands, now I know better.
You're fucking nuts.
GW,
I read your articles; everyone of the them. But, Benghazi like Iraq "invasion" (the second one). is just not that important in the great scheme of things . Yeah, some congressman from CA will hold hearing to score some point. So what. What's happening in Syria is more important because we don't really know the outcome.
This is entirely relevant BECAUSE it highlights the deep US involvement in destabilising Syria - using CIA slush funds and Al-CIA-da False-Flag-Fighters-For-Fake-Freedom™.
And if it was exposed what makes you think over 1% of americans will give a shit about it.
Apathy is killing us, not lies.
Meh.
We will never learn the truth because too many powerful people will have their careers damaged, perhaps permanently. I'm sure GW is correct that there is a lot more here than meets the eye. It is also possible that the US government or our diplomats in Libya were buying up all these free-floating, heavy Libyan weapons for use in all of our various covert adventures all over Africa and the ME.
The Republicans just want to use this sad episode to neutralize Hillary. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but I doubt that their curiosity will linger if she declares herself out of the 2016 race.
Meanwhile, the US and Israel are on the way to screwing themselves in Syria by ousting Assad before they figure out how to replace him. The same geniuses who brought us Karzai and al-Maliki will brings us God's-knows who.
Stevens was CIA. He was also gay and a Democrat. Supposedly he was friendly with Anderson Cooper who is gay and CIA Operation Mockingbird dupe. Stevens was probably also friendly with a gay muslim who has a man servant and plays a lot of golf.
Stevens supposedly met with a Repub Senator before all this happened. Stevens may have been naive but he probably was diligently trying to do his job. So I am sure the Repubs know exactly what happened. This was Fast and Furious Part 2 gone bad times about 10. Stevens was trying to buy weapons back that never should have been sold. He supposedly had a meeting with a Turkish ambassador before the attack started. The Turks probably offered him a deal.
When the Turks left - the attack started. The botton line is State Department, CIA and intel people were left to die and be murdered. Stevens knew too much and was given this job because his much higher ups knew it was a suicide mission. The alternate story was Stevens was to get "kidnapped" then saved to help O's re-election and it went bad. The fake kidnappers changed the deal.
So the State Dept, CIA, Military, intel people have to wonder if O would leave them behind to die. Forget politics - these are Americans on the ground in a life or death situation. You save them or get them out of there. I don't like Bush(es) but if he did this - he would be impeached in a week.
Petreaus was set up with female agent whores way in advance. He gets promoted and CIA gig cause they have plenty of dirt on him. Something goes really bad and he knows what it is. Then he goes down as another distraction. Make sure both mati haris have big t**s because that always distracts the public. Then Petreaus gets a deal. Your family is safe and you have a teaching job or....
This MF'er needs to be impeached and Hillary needs to go down too.
I like your analysis Freddie.
And the Libya debacle won't be thoroughly discussed as we now have Israel shelling/bombing Syria-- pre-emptively. I can't see how that's going to end well. The US is not in any position to help as we are stretched out all over the place (or perhaps that we won't interfere for that very reason). Very interesting report at jimstonefreelance.com that Israel isn't using conventional weapons. The truth remains to be seen...apart from getting zero coverage in the US, I'm wondering why Russia and China are--apparently-- doing nothing about it. True, the Israelis may be deterred by the S300 anti-aircraft weaponry, but I'm not sure why the Syrians aren't engaging the tanks et al. I don't think "Because they're stupid brown people" is a good enough answer. Are other parties cynical, blackmailed, etc??
You really hate gays and religion dont you, did a priest 'bless' you as a child freddie, it would explain your hatred of gays and religion.
Its a shame coz your analysis is spot on, its just your conclusion is colored by your prejudice.
I don't hate gays. I feel very sorry for Christopher Stevens and the three other men who died that night. Two of them disobeyed orders trying to save him and the others. Stevens was sarcificed and left to be murdered. I cannot imagine what he went through and yeah it is incredibly sad. I need to look back at a few sources but Stevens may have known he was being set up and he supposedly met with a Repub Senator. I think it was Inhofe.
I am not sure where I mentioned religion but as far as Islam - no I don't like Islam. The people who murdered Stevens knew his sexual orientation and supposedly wre even more cruel in the method used to kill him. He also was connected to Anderson Cooper and O. People need to speak out about this because no one should be left behind to be murdered like this.
People die in order to provide the lifestyle and living standards that 300 mil americans get to enjoy did you imagine they all died quickly charging the enemy positions on a sunny day with the wind in their hair.
Hollywood lies freddie.
You sleep soundly in your bed tonight because hard men stand ready to kill to continue your way of life.
Nah,
I think it was a Hollywood producer who damaged Freddie.
Spot on Freddie... this shit is gonna get much worse. Appears TPTB may have a little internal conflict going down?
neither u nor GW know shit
I see you have learned how to block the arrows little pig.
<- New_Meat +1
<- New_Meat -1
Problem solved.
No one knows shit like a pig.
I think this article should be sent to the NYT. Good work GW.
I agree, but sadly it wouldn't matter.
Bastiat,
I read the article: I don't know what 1,500 spent nuclear fuel rods mean. What's an equivalent yield. Can someone that's a nuclear engineer put this in engineering terms. I am an EE but this stuff just doesn't register.
1,500 fuel assemblies at just one pool. There are over 11,000 spent fuel assemblies at Fukushima. Each assembly has 64 rods weighing about 380lbs each.
If by "yield" you are thinking tnt equivalent megatonage, I think you are looking at the wrong thing--the danger isn't so much from the effects of an explosion but from a nuclear fire in the open air pouring radioactive particles into the atmosphere and ocean. An explosion would scatter fuel (as it already did with #3) which disastrous but the explosive effect is local and transient. If a pool goes dry, say #4, it will light up and it's game over whether it detonates or not.
Here's an article from 3/18/11:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/18/world/asia/18spent.html?pagewanted=1&_r=0
Here's a good source:
Arnie Gundersen has 40-years of nuclear power engineering experience. He attended Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (RPI) where he earned his Bachelor Degree cum laude while also becoming the recipient of a prestigious Atomic Energy Commission Fellowship for his Master Degree in nuclear engineering. Arnie holds a nuclear safety patent, was a licensed reactor operator, and is a former nuclear industry senior vice president. During his nuclear power industry career, Arnie also managed and coordinated projects at 70-nuclear power plants in the US.
http://www.fairewinds.org/aboutus
http://www.fairewinds.org/content/more-lessons-fukushima-daiichi-acciden...
Fukushima has only ten percent of the stored spent fuel rods that typical AMERICAN nuke facility has. 400 Plus nuke plants globally, all storing spent fuel on-site... if Fukushima catches fire, Japan and the Pacific are ecologically finished. If Japan is finished, it will bring down the tottering global economy. If the economy crumbles, there will be no spare parts for the already decrepit and disintegrating nuke plants. No money to dispose of spent fuel (waste)... eventually, these plants will also experience catastrophic failures, and the AMERICAN ones will make Fukushima look like a non-event.
Conceivably, the inevitable catastrophic meltdowns of 400-plus nuke plants will destroy human civilization, and perhaps even all advanced (higher than cockroach)life on the planet.
Jesus had better fucking hurry up and get back here, or else we're really fucked.
And yet every anti-nuker wants to keep the shit above ground, apparently indefinitely, rather than ~2 to 3 kms deep, in cratonic basement. That's what's truely insane about the present situation, because then we would not be running the risk of being wiped-out by the next great solar storm, or an EMP exchange.
Someone grow a spine and get 'er done.