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Race to Zero in High Yield Credit

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The average annual credit loss in high yield bond portfolios was 2.65% between 1992 and 2011.  During that same time period, your average yield for taking that credit risk was 10.25% and your average option adjusted spread was 5.7%.  Today, that total yield has dropped to 4.96%

High Yield - The New Risk Free Asset Class

At 4.96% you are picking up 4.04% above a comparable tenor in US treasuries.   With a 2.65% average credit loss, you are expecting a 1.39% risk premium for taking on junk credit risk if we experience historical average credit losses.  Do not worry though, because volatility has been removed from all asset classes.

 

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Fri, 05/10/2013 - 17:53 | 3549839 Stuck on Zero
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If I repackage and aggregate a bunch of the junk can I get it rerated to AAA?

 

 

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 19:08 | 3550065 August
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Exactly. 

 

Modern investment modelling has shown that buying a single diseased cow is very risky, but the risk is cancelled out if you buy the entire herd.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 16:30 | 3549549 kaiserhoff
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Yield free risk.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 13:01 | 3548790 Quantum Nucleonics
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Yea, but what's my return if I'm leveraged 20-1???

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 14:57 | 3549277 andrewp111
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It is all about Pump n' Dump. Very Bullish!!

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 11:58 | 3548559 DoChenRollingBearing
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Welcome to SurlyTrader!  And what a timely article.  "High Yield" (junk) at under 5%?  There are stocks that yield 5% (yes, OK, with their issues as well).

The stretch for yield has gotten ludicrous with investors accepting under 5% for that much risk.  Do they think that there is such low risk of non-payment when the going gets tough?

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 14:03 | 3549048 thepigman
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Crap junk bonds at sub 5% trumps equities. Of course, it's still absurrd.

Oh, and Uncle Warren's full of it.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 12:00 | 3548566 NotApplicable
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Depends. What does Kevin Henry think?

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 11:18 | 3548390 Whiner
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Call Mike Milken. Refinance to low yield while raising moar cheap money for Leverage America. Get in there folks. It's dropping to 3.9%. Hurry, hurry. Hubba, Hubba.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 10:45 | 3548227 gorillaonyourback
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central planned world going oh so well till it dont. until food sky rockets we will sit here and take it up the ass and hope the next time i can get a little ky for the next leg down

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 12:53 | 3548771 Bungalow
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Couldn't have said it better, but boy is that gonna hurt, even with the ky

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 10:31 | 3548175 new game
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NO FEAR!

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 13:42 | 3548935 dontgoforit
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Ha ha - that's a good one.  I once bought $10k of a company run by Jonas Salk (polio vaccine creator) called Immune Response - was told it was headed skyward; no risk.  After less than 4 years I was getting brokerage charges on an account that had dwindled into negative territory.  I called the schmuck and said, "Hey man - cancel my account, you've bled this one out."  Lesson learned.  Have done much better since.  I would advise anyone who hasn't yet been burned, to wait until they're a little older to try their hand - and to keep their cash a little more cautiously in their truly 'no risk' vehicles.

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 13:29 | 3548873 Manthong
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Race to Zero… now that is a concept to give to the kids..

I heard that the easiest thing to do is become impoverished,

Fri, 05/10/2013 - 17:07 | 3549654 Freddie
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Saved by Zero

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOiZP8FS5Ww

Shite - I never knew The Fixx were on slimeball Geffen Records.  Friend of Obama.

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