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We Call a Top NSA Whistleblower ... And Get the REAL SCOOP on Spying

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We reported in 2008 that foreign companies have had key roles scooping up Americans’ communications for the NSA:

At least two foreign companies play key roles in processing the information.

 

Specifically, an Israeli company called Narus processes all of the information tapped by AT &T (AT & T taps, and gives to the NSA, copies of all phone calls it processes), and an Israeli company called Verint processes information tapped by Verizon (Verizon also taps, and gives to the NSA, all of its calls).

Business Insider notes today:

The newest information regarding the NSA domestic spying scandal raises an important question: If America’s tech giants didn’t ‘participate knowingly’ in the dragnet of electronic communication, how does the NSA get all of their data?

 

One theory: the NSA hired two secretive Israeli companies to wiretap the U.S. telecommunications network.

 

In April 2012 Wired’s James Bamford — author of the book “The Shadow Factory: The NSA from 9/11 to the Eavesdropping on America” — reported that two companies with extensive links to Israel’s intelligence service provided hardware and software the U.S. telecommunications network for the National Security Agency (NSA).

 

By doing so, this would imply, companies like Facebook and Google don’t have to explicitly provide the NSA with access to their servers because major Internet Service Providers (ISPs) such as AT&T and Verizon already allows the U.S. signals intelligence agency to eavesdrop on all of their data anyway.

 

From Bamford (emphasis ours):

“According to a former Verizon employee briefed on the program, Verint, owned by Comverse Technology, taps the communication lines at Verizon

 

At AT&T the wiretapping rooms are powered by software and hardware from Narus, now owned by Boeing, a discovery made by AT&T whistleblower Mark Klein in 2004.”

Klein, an engineer, discovered the “secret room” at AT&T central office in San Francisco, through which the NSA actively “vacuumed up Internet and phone-call data from ordinary Americans with the cooperation of AT&T” through the wiretapping rooms, emphasizing that “much of the data sent through AT&T to the NSA was purely domestic.”

 

NSA whistleblower Thomas Drake corroborated Klein’s assertions, testifying that while the NSA is using Israeli-made NARUS hardware to “seize and save all personal electronic communications.”

 

Both Verint and Narus were founded in Israel in the 1990s.

 

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Anything that comes through (an internet protocol network), we can record,” Steve Bannerman, marketing vice president of Narus, a Mountain View, California company, said. “We can reconstruct all of their e-mails along with attachments, see what web pages they clicked on, we can reconstruct their (voice over internet protocol) calls.”

 

With a telecom wiretap the NSA only needs companies like Microsoft, Google, and Apple to passively participate while the agency to intercepts, stores, and analyzes their communication data. The indirect nature of the agreement would provide tech giants with plausible deniability.

 

And having a foreign contractor bug the telecom grid would mean that the NSA gained access to most of the domestic traffic flowing through the U.S. without technically doing it themselves.

 

This would provide the NSA, whose official mission is to spy on foreign communications, with plausible deniability regarding domestic snooping.

The reason that Business Insider is speculating about the use of private Israeli companies to thwart the law is that 2 high-ranking members of the Senate Intelligence Committee – Senators Wyden and Udall – have long said that the government has adopted a secret interpretation of section 215 of the Patriot Act which would shock Americans, because it provided a breath-takingly wide program of spying.

Last December, top NSA whistleblower William Binney – a 32-year NSA veteran with the title of senior technical director, who headed the agency’s global digital data gathering program (featured in a New York Times documentary, and the source for much of what we know about NSA spying) – said that the government is using a secret interpretation of Section 215 of the Patriot Act which allows the government to obtain:

Any data in any third party, like any commercial data that’s held about U.S. citizens ….

(relevant quote starts at 4:19).

I called Binney to find out what he meant.

I began by asking Binney if Business Insider’s speculation was correct.  Specifically, I asked Binney if the government’s secret interpretation of Section 215 of the Patriot Act was that a foreign company – like Narus, for example – could vacuum up information on Americans, and then the NSA would obtain that data under the excuse of spying on foreign entities … i.e. an Israeli company.

Binney replied no … it was broader than that.

Binney explained that the government is taking the position that it can gather and use any information about American citizens living on U.S. soil if it comes from:

Any service provider … any third party … any commercial company – like a telecom or internet service provider, libraries, medical companies – holding data about anyone, any U.S. citizen or anyone else.

I followed up to make sure I understood what Binney was saying, asking whether the government’s secret interpretation of Section 215 of the Patriot Act was that the government could use any information as long as it came from a private company … foreign or domestic.  In other words, the government was using the antiquated, bogus legal argument that it was not acting “color of law” using governmental powers, and that it was private companies just doing their thing (which the government happened to order all of the private companies to collect and fork over).

Binney confirmed that this was correct.  This is what the phone company spying program and the Prism program – the government spying on big Internet companies – is based upon.  Since all digital communications go through private company networks, websites or other systems, the government just demands that all of the companies turn all of them over.

Let’s use an analogy to understand how bogus this interpretation of the Patriot Act is. This would be analogous to a Congressman hiring a hit man to shoot someone asking too many questions, and loaning him his gun to carry out the deed … and then later saying “I didn’t do it, it was that private citizen!” That wouldn’t pass the laugh test even at an unaccredited, web-based law school offered through a porn site.

I then asked the NSA veteran if the government’s claim that it is only spying on metadata – and not content – was correct.  We have extensively documented that the government is likely recording the content as well. (And the government has previously admitted to “accidentally” collecting more information on Americans than was legal.)

Binney said that was not true; the government is gathering everything, including content.

Binney explained – as he has many times before – that the government is storing everything, and creating a searchable database … to be used whenever it wants, for any purpose it wants when it wants to go after someone.

Binney said that former FBI counter-terrorism agent Tim Clemente is correct when he said that no digital data is safe (Clemente says that all digital communications are being recorded).  Binney gave me an idea of how powerful Narus recording systems are.  There are probably 18 of them around the country, and they can each record 10 gigabytes of data – the equivalent of a million and a quarter emails with 1,000 characters each – per second.

Binney next confirmed the statement of the author of the Patriot Act – Congressman Jim Sensenbrenner – that the NSA spying programs violate that Act.  After all, the Patriot Act is focused on spying on external threats, not on Americans.

Binney asked rhetorically: “How can an American court [FISA or otherwise] tell telecom to cough up all domestic data?!”

Update: Binney sent the following clarifying email about content collection:

It’s clear to me that they are collecting most e-mail in full plus other text type data on the web.

 

As for phone calls, I don’t think they would record/transcribe the approximately 3 billion US-to-US calls every day. It’s more likely that they are recording and transcribing calls made by the 500,000 to 1,000,000 targets in the US and the world.

In other news, NSA Built Back Door In All Windows Software by 1999

 

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Sun, 06/09/2013 - 15:42 | 3639559 Payne
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This whole revelation seems crazy.  Really the NSA has the storage capacity to store all this data and have it be recoverable for use ?  The data is useless without the programs so they have to have a copy of every program in use today, know how to open it or to somehow reconvert into another format.  Hmm , why not ask the guys at Google how hard that would be ?  So even if the look at every stupid remark or search or comment I have made on the internet now they have to invent a way to retrieve the data and interpret it in a usefull way.  Once again how good is google at doing that job ?  How good are our internet searches for useful info ?  Unless some brilliant breakthroughs have been made the NSA would need to duplicate the storage capacity of every computer in the world on a daily basis, crazy.

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 00:16 | 3641221 MeelionDollerBogus
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You have obviously not thought of combining RAID with Citrix Metaframe & having enough bandwidth to support.

You don't need the program installed on every computer, just some servers. Then you can open all the data.

However, there's still the issue of encryption.

I wonder if this really means they AREN'T so worried about the encrypted streams because if that's what you were really worried about you would NOT dedicate this time, effort & physical server resources.

Sun, 06/09/2013 - 15:08 | 3639501 spooz
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Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind revelations of NSA surveillance

The 29-year-old source behind the biggest intelligence leak in the NSA's history explains his motives, his uncertain future and why he never intended on hiding in the shadows

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/09/edward-snowden-nsa-whistlebl...

Sun, 06/09/2013 - 09:37 | 3638874 overmedicatedun...
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all this data will prove that 90% of humanity is expendable and are traitors, dull minded, lazy,open mouth drooling hicks. 5% are insane, 3% are worthy of HLS and .gov enforcers, 1.5% are able to rule without compassion or reason and .5% are to benefit from the misery of a serf world run by the last 10% listed. any questions?

Sun, 06/09/2013 - 07:00 | 3638753 nathan1234
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All Obummer's records are locked down, birth, academic, scholarships,legal etc and this Bum spies on the rest of the world !!!

 

Sun, 06/09/2013 - 05:44 | 3638710 nathan1234
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What is the rest of the world going to do now?

Sit and suck their thumbs and listen to massa Obummer.

Or throw the books and put sanctions against them?

Mostly lackeys i guess, who will say Yes Massa

Sun, 06/09/2013 - 02:58 | 3638656 Free Wary
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An Israeli vendor demonstrated some fearsome spy technology adapted to commercial use to my company for call centers. The vendor technology automatically recorded and then transcribed phone calls to the call center. Then it was trivial for analysts like me to do ad hoc or programmed full text search on the content of the phone calls.

Sun, 06/09/2013 - 15:21 | 3639527 css1971
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Can I get that software for my PC? None of the speach to text tools work wheny I try them.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 21:01 | 3638130 Judge Crater
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So, Bush even outsourced spying on Americans.

Sun, 06/09/2013 - 14:45 | 3639466 the grateful un...
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so now we know what Romney and few other GOP types have said, "well maybe those jobs needed to leave the United States.."

Sun, 06/09/2013 - 00:35 | 3638562 cifo
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The important thing is that this is NEVER going to go away.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 20:54 | 3638121 IamtheREALmario
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One wonders how many people at the top of the NSA have dual US/Iraeli citizenship. It seems to be a disease in certain areas of the government and Wall Street.

Can't imagine any actual US citizen trusting Israelis with their security.

Sun, 06/09/2013 - 01:49 | 3638622 FlyinaRage
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"Can't imagine any actual US citizen trusting Israelis with their security."

 

Got that backwards there, you did. Might wanna fix it.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 20:41 | 3638107 cherry picker
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The Federal laws and regulations are not countable, there are so many.  How many follow the Constitution or Bill of Rights is anybody's guess.

However, one law professor at some university stated, there isn't one person in this country I cannot indict on some offence serious enough to send to jail.  That is scary.

Sun, 06/09/2013 - 08:21 | 3638802 BeetleBailey
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...and it's done daily. Under everyone's noses.....

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 20:37 | 3638103 Joebloinvestor
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You know I wouldn't be half as pissed as I am if they would use the info for catching criminals like inside traders, banksters, ect, instead of the child molesting rings (which are evil).

 

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 18:41 | 3637931 The Old Man
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The logic behind such a desire to collect information through whatever means, legal or not, over such a wide area, would seem to me to be a future of negating legal reciprocity, or in other words, "eliminating the statute of limitatons".

Why is the best question. 

If they are after foreign terrorists, probably well established in this country and Britain, then have at it. But domestic terrorrism may be in line with what the why is. I would suppose that in order to stop foreign all they would have to do is target communications based on race bias. It's a simple thing to do. The white pages are chock full of names and phone #'s such that people with given names of Smith or Jones could round up a stadium full of "suspected terrorists" with "other" names. But cell and internet presents a difficulty. My favorite example is in Joe Blows' cell phone/tablet gets ripped off. Why? Who's using it and for what? Can it all be drug related? Then again if it's domestic, under who's rules does this apply? The NSA/CIA/FBI/DHS/DEA/..... and on and on.  Is it a feeding frenzy of information where a particular prosecutor looking for power and glory can sacrifice a pleban for a mistep of word or sense of quasi patriotism? And yes, they have no ethics. They are lawyers. They "Win". And "sheeple follow", all safe and sound in thier consumerism beds.

The point being, "Where does this stop?"

Confiscation and use of personal information without prior consent or legally written warrant is against the standard rule of law. And we copied the British laws of the late 1600's to get to that point. And Congress/Senate/Executive, no matter what bullshit law they write into other laws to hide it behind a sheeps cloth, automatically negates thier given power if they do. Supreme court will back that up. We need a different set of elected official. We need to stop the percs and the lobbyist. We need a "clean", "constitutional" and "factual" electorate. Nothing is easy, but nothing can't be done.

We are who we are because we are here now. But "can" we see and "can" we do? 

First and Fourth ammendmant rights according to the constiution of the United States are being trashed for the sake of internal governmental power struggles between competing agencies for the purpose of "egoism" and simple "self preservation". Great, ain't it. They're on the tit too!! The gladiators have become the goverment agencies competing for too few dollars with too many competitors and too many employees ready to "Kill, Kill, Kill....."! What a fiasco!!!!

There's too many people, there's too many problems, and not enough Constitusionality to go around. 

Now just what the fuck are you going to do about it?

Ohhh, Ohhhh.... I know, I know..... Keep stacking.... sell the fractured RE in an IPO....., Fuck the yen...... sell your derivitaves to another sucker..... buy Swiss Bonds.

try parking this computer and go tell somebody else what the hell is going on.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 21:33 | 3638199 The Heart
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"try parking this computer and go tell somebody else what the hell is going on."

Big ups to that...and the good one's informative article here. Thanks GW.

What's amazing is, people are waking up and are on the same page. Even those who overhear awakened people discussions in such places like grocery stores and gas stations listen closely knowing the truth. And that truth is, something is terribly wrong here and everyone knows what is coming. War on the American people by their own govt.

Blessings to all.

 

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 17:58 | 3637860 wstrub
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look into Blue Coat Systems Inc. and Sandvine.......

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 16:09 | 3637656 blindman
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at&t, the telephone, the internet, the t.v.,
the news papers ...etc..
all "intelligence" controlled, get it?
u will not find salvation, protection or
truth (when it matters) in these. they are
served, as in soilent green, on you or to you
presented as for you, but, it is you that
is being ground up and served to you.
your mind is different if you make it
different.
it is about power.
your power, sacrificed or guarded, protected
and employed by you? or some stranger with
a nice public persona?
I don't know and don't need to or want to know.
it is entirely up to u

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 15:59 | 3637632 TheMerryPrankster
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I think what we are seeing is a public fight between the CIA and the NSA.

the cia own the media - literally they hav,e agents or assets in all newsrooms. They also have acquired several corporations like ABC,Disney etc. do a little googling if you doubt it.

so why would the CIA media leak the NSA's big secret? PRISM must have been collecting data on the CIA, so the CIA had to piss all over it and fast. IF what the CIA has been up to over the last 65 odd years ever came to light it would be a pale shadow of this surviellance fiasco.

The CIA is very worried about something and so it leaked PRISM to the Guardian and then it echoed it over its vast MSM empire.

And Obama is just a tool in the middle that will get hung out to dry and the CIA will never have a hint of implication in this political suicide.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 21:35 | 3638207 The Heart
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All prolly true, but WHO is the cia?

Sun, 06/09/2013 - 07:12 | 3638757 hootowl
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Count the faux-Hebrew Babylonians in the higher echelons of both agencies......actually all U.S. Government agencies & federal courts. The Babylonians swarm to fiat money and government power like green-bottle flies swarm to fresh bovine excrement.

D.C. truly is the Land of ZOG.  By centralizing power, it only takes a relative few of them to control the entire country.......and the Western World.

With the endless fiat money supply the Babylonian banksters create out of thin air they have been able to co-opt just about everything......everything....even the Christian seminaries.

How much do you let them confiscate from you each year so they can destroy and enslave your children and grandchildren?

Join the underground economy.  Keep what you earn.

STARVE THE BEAST!!!

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 18:18 | 3637896 supermaxedout
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That is also my opinion. Its like in the Sowjet Union. A power struggle between the fraction which still does not like to recognize the fact that the US is not anymore the sole master of the world and the Obama fraction which is more realistic.  The situation is even more dramatic as it was when the Soviet Union started to crumble because the Soviets had no such thing as  Israel involved.  Israel,  a radical fundamentalistic religious state which controls the parlamentary system in Washington and is tightly interwooven with the military industrial complex, the mass media and the CIA.  So the situation in the US is very very explosive.

In my opinion Obama is in great danger, similar to Kennedy who was also on a course of confrontation with the military industrial complex. He wanted to make real peace with the Soviets and that was his mistake, because it would have crippled the military industrial complex. 

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 18:04 | 3637871 johnQpublic
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its all just a conspiracy theory until it becomes conspiracy fact

 

so who is still raedy to deny ANY conspiracy now?

so come all ye roswell aliens, show me your ameros vatos!

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 15:54 | 3637617 TheMerryPrankster
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The first rule of PRISM is don't talk about PRISM.

Key words and tricky phrases. They haven't heard of the government keyword 'PRISM'. They also deny "direct access" which is what every company has said. My guess is that the government said they couldn't comment in general (it being Top Secret and all), but that they could say that "direct access" wasn't granted, with the definition of "direct access" being that the government didn't have complete access and control of their servers. This doesn't mean that the government wasn't running software on their servers or that the company was piping information to government servers. Essentially, these companies are lying to our faces by twisting words but are being covered by the government. And they know that even if they do illegal things that the government will pass a retroactive immunity bill if problems arise.

So, fuck Google and everybody else. They should have fought this and leaked it at the start, but they didn't have the balls to do so.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 15:31 | 3637559 blindman
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it is funny that the "government" (civil servants) see fit to spend
trillions of dollars to discern what people have been
screaming at those same institutions in broad daylight
for decades, if not centuries and for free,
perhaps they could read their mail or e-mail
and actually listen to the words and discover the
meaning rather than ignoring them with official
pre scripted generic responses, ignoring the content
and then taking orders from their corporate controllers.
representation has been reduced to garnering fiat funding
through legislation, perverting the justice part of law.
and these are lawyers and sophisticated, educated persons;
not knowing the first thing of the ways of the world and
lemmings.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 17:30 | 3637810 thisandthat
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Who wouldn't want to get the dirt on their bosses?

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 17:42 | 3637549 Wakanda
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Thanks for the great scoop GW!  More!

The Second American Revolution - the sociopaths are terrified and behaving very badly.

stupid prediction:  It's gonna get worse before it gets better.  Buckle up FiSHeS.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 15:10 | 3637512 blindman
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[KR455] Keiser Report: Predatory Monopoly
Posted on June 8, 2013 by Stacy Herbert
Read more at http://www.maxkeiser.com/2013/06/kr455-keiser-report-predatory-monopoly/...
.
"We discuss the American Dream that you have to be asleep to believe in, an America’s Cup too expensive to compete in and a patent system ripe to troll about in. In the second half, Max interviews legendary comedian, Mort Sahl, about the Military Industrial Complex and Bradley Manning.
Read more at http://www.maxkeiser.com/2013/06/kr455-keiser-report-predatory-monopoly/... "

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 15:04 | 3637493 Satan
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"That wouldn’t pass the laugh test even at an unaccredited, web-based law school offered through a porn site."

- that killed me!

On a more serious note...where is the public outrage? Very few seem to give a shit and that is the most dangerous thing about this whole fiasco.

Sun, 06/09/2013 - 15:24 | 3639532 css1971
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They feel they have nothing to hide so have nothing to fear.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 15:01 | 3637476 moonstears
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6. Who is the head of NSA/CSS?

The Director, NSA/Chief, CSS, is GEN Keith B. Alexander, United States Army. The Director is appointed by the Secretary of Defense and approved by the President of the United States. The Director, NSA/Chief, CSS, is always a commissioned military officer with at least a rank of three stars. He also serves as the Commander, U.S. Cyber Command, in a dual assignment.

You know, the web was a military construct, originally. The original idea was not allowing your private chat at 2 am, with that chick you should have finger-banged, that one summer as a junior in high schooler. That said, Let me be first "Gen Alexander for President, Holder for VP 2016!" p.s. "Honorable Secty H. Clinton for Afghan Ambassador!"

 

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 14:56 | 3637469 LuchadorChumba
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Mi luchador Sun Tzu Flung Poo says defeat su enemia without engaging in battle.  Both Sun Tzu and Hegel Bagel luchadors decided to team up for a serious tagteam experience on the public, uh, I mean the audience.

Si, I finally decided to allow the multitudes know that muy feo me is listening to them all the time…so better watch out and feel some real muy fuerte FEAR!! Aye aye aye, better not discuss your dilemma, I might just be eavesdropping! I want the ringside audience to piss their pantalones.

Tell you a secret… shhhh, our algorhythms suck and we are not omnipotent, omniscient, or omnivorous. We want to believe we are, but we’d rather have YOU believe. We talk about how the loose anagram of NAZI has a great acronym and how their 'itchy-lon' listens in to everything you say, we have backdoors into all your computers, tracking devices on your phones, convex lens detectors that allow us to see what you are looking or aiming at, and soon to announce implants that should really make you shiver. We know that our grande muscles, no matter how we market them, are also our weaknesses. That’s the offensive jockstrap that you smell. Do you feel it tightening around su cabesa, your head as you read? We know that most the dummies know that we have this capability. It’s not a secret. We know, that if you had the right DNA, you’d automatically consider feeding us a ton of horseshit , cangada – then, we wouldn’t know what to do (like some of you did in the Vietnam debacle when you registered fake draftees). But no, what a disappointment you’ve been. We’re not even entertained anymore. All we have to do is make it inconvenient for you to resist, and oye, you show us your exposed estomago. We know you hate inconvenience. Chinga! You could walk away from the ring on your cloven hoofs today!

 

Viva El Luchador!

 

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 14:44 | 3637444 Rick64
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Narus has several business partners who provide various technologies similar to the features of NarusInsight. Several of the partners are funded by In-Q-Tel.

In 2005 it was said to be funded with about $37 million a year from the CIA.

Former CIA director George Tenet says,

We [the CIA] decided to use our limited dollars to leverage technology developed elsewhere. In 1999 we chartered ... In-Q-Tel. ... While we pay the bills, In-Q-Tel is independent of CIA. CIA identifies pressing problems, and In-Q-Tel provides the technology to address them.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 17:03 | 3637762 DaveyJones
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thanks for the info

"In-Q-Tel sold 5,636 shares of Google, worth over $2.2 million, on Nov 15, 2005.[6] The stocks were a result of Google’s acquisition of Keyhole, the CIA funded satellite mapping software now known as Google Earth."

this shit is beyond Orwellian

Sun, 06/09/2013 - 01:57 | 3638627 Rick64
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They are all linked together. 

Sun, 06/09/2013 - 10:28 | 3638957 Urban Redneck
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The CIA has been providing private equity to companies which provide products and services which facilitate its mission since long before the dot.com bubble of 1999... That's the tip of an iceberg that could freeze hell over.

 

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 14:25 | 3637408 Rick64
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It seems to be more than a coincidence that Israeli companies that have ties to Israeli gov. and intelligence are always in the middle of these spying operations.  Amdocs and Comverse Infosys are the two companies that were being investigated after 9/11.

Fox News, alone of all the media, actually ran the story as a four part broadcast, and put the story up on its web site. Then, without explanation, Fox News erased the story from their web site and have never mentioned it again. CNN followed by "Orwellizing" their report of the two hour advance warning of the WTC attacks sent to Odigo employees. But far more telling is the admission made by a US Official in part one of the Fox News report that hard evidence existed linking the events of 9/11 not to Arab Muslims, but to some of the more than 200 Israeli spies arrested both before and after 9/11, but that this evidence had been CLASSIFIED.

Since then, any and all mention of the Israeli spy ring and phone tapping scandal has resulted in a barrage of shrill screams of "hate" and "anti-Semite", two well worn and frankly over used devices to try to silence discussion on any topic unfavorable to the nation which owns the spy ring in question.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bihSLKHpMHI

 

Sun, 06/09/2013 - 14:42 | 3639458 resurger
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Thank you so much Rick

Sun, 06/09/2013 - 10:07 | 3638919 Urban Redneck
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It's not a coincidence, and it's not surprising, but it's more complicated and nuanced than most people understand.  I didn't think it was that esoteric, but apparently there isn't even WikiWhitewash page to mislead the sheeple.  

https://ixquick.com/do/search?q=%22Kilowatt+Group%22+intelligence

 

I find it strange that Google has only indexed 8,490 web pages with the term "Kilowatt Group"  especially since, in short order- that number will more than double based on this single web post on an indexed "fringe blog."

Throw another shrimp on the barbie and another turd in the punchbowl - it's Sunday and we've got wabbits to hunt....


Sat, 06/08/2013 - 21:08 | 3638146 Paveway IV
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This is exactly why the current NSA flap is so damn unfathomable. Where the hell have people been the last twenty years?

1994: FBI's survielance wet-dream comes true - Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act (CAELA) forces telecom carriers to bifurcate all communications lines so the government can wiretap undetected and at will without telecom involvement. For Unix geeks: tee all lines all the time. The feds didn't intend to tap or record all communications. They just wanted to make it quick, easy and undetectable when they did. All telecom and internet stuff is built bifurcated (by law) to this day. 

1997: The DEA upgrades their 'wiretapping infrastructure' to the black rooms and T2S2 wiretapping software by Comverse-Infosys, a partially Israeli government-subsidized company that will not let telecoms or intel see the source code. Side note: calls need to be intercepted and recorded by Israeli Converse-Infosys personnel first on their equipment, then recordings are transmitted to the U.S. spooks. What could possibly go wrong? Another Israeli company, Amdocs, comes under scrutiny leaking phone billing records to Israeli Intelligence, drug mobs and others. Another Israeli company, Natus, supposedly wires up and runs AT&T's Black Rooms.

1999: So many U.S. gov't agencies join the bandwagon by deploying T2S2 'services' that they are starting to complain about each other. The NSA also warns the U.S. government that it's own call records (the U.S. government's) are ending up in Israeli hands. 

2000: FBI counter-intelligence discovers that a subcontractor for Israel's Amdocs telecom billing software had all the FBI's secret phone numbers - including the ones counterintelligence agents used for wiretapping the suspected Israeli spying operation. The FBI asked for a warrant to search the Amdocs subcontractor, but it was denied by the Justice Department without explanation.

2001: Fox News reports on the leaky wiretap plumbing and Israel's unfettered access to all U.S. phone calls in December. Comverse-Infosys immediately changes their spy software unit name to Verint.

2010: Boeing buys Natus. Verint somehow merges with it's parent, Comverse. Britain's The Guardian reports British Intelligence had access to NSA's data. 

Today: The NSA has been cobbling together Israeli phone and internet spying software used for at least a decade by the U.S. government. The cobble... er, fusion of systems is called PRISM. People are outraged, "...WTF?? The government is not suppose to spy on me..."

 

I guess I would be shocked, too. That is, if I had lived in a f*king CAVE the last two decades...

Mon, 06/10/2013 - 00:37 | 3641250 MeelionDollerBogus
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That's it.
I've fucking had it.
This is not just criminal, it's NEFARIOUS.
I demand IMMEDIATELY that we deploy Bart Chilton to get to the bottom of this.

Sun, 06/09/2013 - 06:43 | 3638736 Disenchanted
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Scientia Est Potentia...bitchez

Total Information Awareness 

 

Two quotes from that second link:

 

Mission(IAO)

The IAO's stated mission is to gather as much information as possible about everyone in a centralized location for easy perusal by the United States government, including Internet activity, credit card purchase histories, airline ticket purchases, car rentals, medical records, educational transcripts, driver's licenses, utility bills, tax returns, and any other available data. In essence, the goal of the IAO is to be able to recreate a life history of thoughts and movements for any individual on the planet on demand, which the Bush administration deems necessary to counter the threat of terrorism. Critics claim the very existence of the IAO completely disregards the concept of individual privacy and liberties and is far too invasive and prone to abuse.

 

and:

 

Reuters has obtained a Congressional report that shows nine months after Congress shut down the controversial Pentagon computer-surveillance program called Total Information Awareness, the U.S. government continues to comb private records and databases to sniff out suspicious activity. Peter Swire, who served as the Clinton administration's top official said "I believe that Total Information Awareness is continuing under other names."—reported by Democracy Now!, June 3, 2004.

 

No shit Sherlock Swire.


NSA Documents on Cryptome 1996-2006 (some of the links there are dead)

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 13:11 | 3637232 tony bonn
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the patriot act was devised by card carrying nazis for the very purpose for which it is being used. 9/11 was a production of the rockefeller nazis and the bush crime syndicate in order to justify the total nazification of america. the 3d reich was NOT defeated in world war 2 since its headquarters was in america - wall street new york.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 16:29 | 3637685 Manic by Proxy
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Get off the Bush crime family meme. Please. Obama is the current threat, and he's much more evil and has the media in his pocket. Let's hear about the Clinton and Obama crime families. They've murdered their way to power.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 12:52 | 3637207 Fukushima Sam
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Our own American brand of fascism.

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 12:42 | 3637186 spooz
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From Counterpunch, An Open Letter to Dianne Feinstein, Chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee by NORMAN SOLOMON

exerpt

"Rather than call for protection of the Fourth Amendment, you want authorities to catch and punish whoever leaked this secret order. You seem to fear that people can actually discover what their own government is doing to them with vast surveillance.

Meanwhile, the Executive Branch is being run by kindred spirits, as hostile to the First Amendment as to the Fourth. On Thursday night, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper issued a statement saying the “unauthorized disclosure of a top secret U.S. court document threatens potentially long-lasting and irreversible harm to our ability to identify and respond to the many threats facing our nation.”

That statement from Clapper is utter and complete hogwash. Whoever leaked the four-page Surveillance Court document to Glenn Greenwald at The Guardian deserves a medal and an honorary parade down Pennsylvania Avenue in the Nation’s Capital. The only “threats” assisted by disclosure of that document are the possibilities of meaningful public discourse and informed consent of the governed.

 As a constituent, I would like to offer an invitation. A short drive from your mansion overlooking San Francisco Bay, hundreds of us will be meeting June 11 at a public forum on “Disappearing Civil Liberties in the United States.” (You’d be welcome to my time on the panel.) One of the speakers, Pentagon Papers whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg, could explain to you how the assaults on civil liberties and the wars you keep supporting go hand in hand, undermining the Constitution and causing untold misery." http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/06/07/an-open-letter-to-dianne-feinstein-chair-of-the-senate-intelligence-committee/
Sun, 06/09/2013 - 07:33 | 3638766 hootowl
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Don't expect help from Feinswine.  She is a BIG part of the problem.  A major culling of the faux-Hebrews and their dupes from the senate is needed.

STARVE THE BEAST

Sat, 06/08/2013 - 13:40 | 3637286 TheReplacement
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Your letter seems to suggest or take for granted that she is not aware and would not approve of the grand conspiracy.  I posit that she is part of it and benefits from it.  She is the enemy.

When Bill Ayers time comes (when they decide they have to kill 10% (30 million today) of Americans) I truly hope that people like him and her are at the top of the list for removal no matter the cost.  The heads have to come off the snake.

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