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We could fix the whole political system by screening the entities that comprise it:
28th Amendment (The Constitutional Emergency Amendment)
Corporations are not persons and shall be granted only those rights and privileges that Congress deems necessary for the well-being of the People. Congress shall provide legislation defining the terms and conditions of corporate charters according to their purpose; which shall include, but are not limited to:
1, prohibitions against any corporation;
a, owning another corporation,
b, becoming economically indispensable or monopolistic, or
c, otherwise distorting the general economy;
2, prohibitions against any form of intervention in the affairs of government by means of;
a, congressional lobbying
b, electoral sponsorship or advocacy
c, educational sponsorship or publication
d, media news reporting
3, provisions for;
a, the auditing of standardized, current, and transparent account books
b, closing the FRB and the establishment of state-owned banks
c, civil and criminal penalties to be suffered by corporate executives et al for violation of the terms of a corporate charter.
Optional: (or possible 29th amendment)
The 16th Amendment to the United States Constitution is hereby repealed and Congress shall re-write the U.S. Code to reflect the changes embodied herein.
(While we're at it, we could also repeal the 17th amendment)
+1 for the Atticus Finch reference Prometheus ! Whats old is/will be new again. I fight for my little community every day. You are not alone
Hey WB7, Adam Kokesh got arrested AGAIN (2nd time in two weeks I think) by the enforcers of tyranny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpZ_b43YN1E
Adam Kokesh is so yesterday's news! </sarc> People forget. I'm afraid they will forget Snowden soon, too.
Some say the same old families behind today's atrocities as back then. There is more momentum now than ever to kick some royal butt.
But I'm a superstitious man. And if some unlucky accident should befall him - If he should get shot in the head by a police officer, or if he should hang himself in his jail cell - or if he's struck by a bolt of lightning, them I'm going to blame some of the people in this room, and that I do not forgive....
The easiest way to get to him is for him to give himself up. Just torture his family; we already know the US systematically engages in torture against it's perceived enemies. They can go drain their bank accounts, blacklist them from working, engage them in endless court battles, sick the corporate media on them to publically humiliate them, and if all else fails, black bag them and whisk them away in a van, never to be seen again. Say it with me......"They hate us for our freedoms!, USA, USA, USA!"
the problem being with that: we've all learned they don't ease up when they get what they want so we all realize, Snowden will realize, there is no use in complying.
If anything they can hope he'll keep silent on further issues IF they DON'T do those horrible things.
Waterboard grandma!
send him his brother's nuts in the mail. So KGB circa 1980. Go for it, Eric!
edit: the KGB actually did this when some agents were kidnapped back in the '80s. They found some relatives and started torturing them until the spies were sent free.
Considering the whole country is being run like Cook County now, expect a similar reaction,
There is no doubt he is under stress. But I think he gauged the strong public and media reaction and decided that this is a PR nitemare for the spooks and their boss. Are Feinstein and Graham the best they can do to defend this?
Remember, this stuff is nothing new. They called everyone conspiracy theorists and lied about what they are doing.
Meanwhile, I was perusing the Al Qaeda training manual which can be found all over the internet. I also looked at a counter terrorism profiling manual. I doubt the serious operatives are using Facebook and Verizon phones to plan their logistics.
Only low tech morons with pressure cookers and bottle rockets. And somehow they seem to slip through the cracked Vichy DC Prism.
Now is really the time to vent about this. They spend trillions on spying on everyone's data and they can't nail a guy who is flagged by two foreign intelligence services? Instead of watching him, they try to hire him? Meanwhile he was already a suspect in a murder case. WTF? Something is clearly not right there.
Are Feinstein and Graham the best they can do to defend this?...
Probably not. This morning while searching for "US military and Snowden" for a link to the US military decision to limit access to us overseas military access to his story, all I got were slams about Snowden and his failure to become an elite member of the force. And that wasn't even "google". Pretty sad imo.
Bravo, WB7.
Yes, they may be collecting all the data- that's more or less technically possible. They may even have some algorithms to sort it in a half-assed manner. But the reality is that there is simply too much for any .gov entity to catch anyone with more than 1/3 of a functional brain. Truth be told, I'd rather see them choke on everything than see them intelligently target groups- right now, it's like watching a garter snake trying to swallow a pig.
At the end of the day, with all things considered, I'm all for them preserving my conversations for posterity. Not because I support them, but because some distant day from now, I'd like to imagine that some digital archeologist might find one of the tens of thousands of pages of words I wrote, and marvel that I could spend a whole lifetime with both fingers in the air, and never spend a night in jail. That might help the folks who deal with this next time Keep Calm and Carry On.
They try to keep tabs on us, but it's simply impossible. It's like Churchill told us a long time ago- the only thing to fear is fear itself.
Just to make the point clear, I'll end this point with some all-caps tags. I know it's poor form, but it's just to make a point. I'll make sure to post next Sunday to show that the black-baggers are not all powerful.
JIHAD. BOMB. ANFO. AIRPORT. PLANE. TERROR. VIRGIN. ALLAH. MULLAH. IRAN. GOLD. OIL. CIA. BOSTON. OKLAHOMA CITY. TWIN TOWERS. WORLD TRADE CENTER. CHAVEZ. MUSHARRIF. ARGENTINA. ZIMBABWE. NWO. GMO. HALIBURTON. RAYTHEON. BLACK ROCK. IRAQ. IRAN. TURKEY. SYRIA. BILL OF RIGHTS. AMMENDMENT. JESUS. MOSQUE.
That should be enough, right? I could go on and on, but why bother? There will be a computer somewhere that grabs this post and flags it, but there are way too many others to expect it would ever be read. If you want to fight them, create a sig that throws inflammatory keywords on everything you write. Choke that greedy beast on it's own algos.
This isn't about catching terrorists. It is about creating a police state. It is about ruling through fear. It will fail.
Here's a few more for you, Prometheus418:
Booz Allen PRISM tax evasion Christopher Stangl Stellar Wind raw milk Jon Corzine gyrotron Scarlett Johansson sarin Hooterville Monkey-Racing Track semtex Emile Autouri homeland Edward Snowden gulag Signals Intelligence Directorate Julie Newmar Fort Meade Chuck Barris thermobaric Hedy Lamarr terror Tim Osman bomb Farrah Fawcett mercurochrome Suzi Quatro anthrax Guantanamo shopping mall AIPAC gloryhole polonium Charles Nelson Reilly claymore mine Dirty Sanchez grenade launcher lutefisk IED assassinate Studebaker hijack Al Qaida trigonal bipyramidal Joyce DeWitt ricin SMERSH electromagnetic pulse Wink Martindale Hezbollah Federal Reserve containment CIA border Mossad Lady Gaga detonator Lemmiwinks Santorum calutron June Foray plutonium Juarez Bank for International Settlements Google evil Monsanto Cayman Islands contaminate Netanyahu buttplug MANPADS nuclear trigger Cleveland Steamer crop duster Howard Cosell Forex Myrna Loy borax Comex default parrot and parakeet training tape International Monetary Fund carbuncle RPG clostridium Olde Frothingslosh ebola Joey Heatherton Dimona smuggle roachclip Butthole Surfers bongwater National Reconnaissance Office Don Rickles Vanessa Chase Backstreet Boys jimsonweed Edward G. Robinson steganography Lily Langtry Captain Beefheart 27B-6 Lee van Cleef kaopectate
That should chew up a few processor cycles.
lutefisk IED?? What evil bastards would weponize lutefisk?
and Monkey-Racing? Er, that just seems ...wrong.
http://i.chzbgr.com/imagestore/2010/4/13/129156636356433820.jpg
Farrah Fawcett? The pinup girl who dumped on Lee Majors?
For the first time in recorded history Wink Martindale, Olde Frothingslosh and Captain Beefheart are all together... truly laughing out loud!
Thanks Stooge
"ZH: come for the articles, stay for the commenters"
Virgin? We can't say 'virgin' any more? Not that I know any...
It is a big hole in the ground to throw money into.
If you look at how the Al Qaeda types have written about things like how to use public phones and wireless equipment you realise what a fruitless endeavor the stated motive of Prism is. It is not to watch terrorists. That is just the cover letter.
If they want to find terrorists of the future they just need to follow McCain around.
THey aren't looking for terrorists, but for political power to gain economic power. There aren't enough terrorists in the world to justify the cost of all this technology.
Exactly what I was thinking. Maybe their eyes were so glazed over w/the billions and billions of data points (and distracting power-lust that such near-omniscience incites) that they couldn't see clues right under their noses about the Boston bombing? What about some good old-fashioned shoe-leather investigating?
Obviously our government is more paranoid than we are. We are out to get them. you know.
Inside Job False Flag.
the great stupidity of these agencies is only matched by their audacity, and over reach in areas useful primarily as a means of political oppression and control. may i suggest that spying on the mass audience has just the effect they want it to have, creating this doubt which serves their purpose, to encourage americans to practise self censorship,and to distrust their neighbors, and to reject social political and religiious diversity, (islamic, autonomous, and economically viable, as opposed to corporate dependency. they hate Iran because corporate america isn't welcome, there is no stock exchange, and they dont' use the oil they produce.) even while our leaders defend these humantarian principles, their minions work behind the scene to destroy them. (and its no surprise that obama was elected to close GITMO and repeal the Patriot Act, -he promised these thing - and has done none of it)
the great lover of humanity wants to oppress and imprison us. men like Lincoln who led us in the bloodiest war americans ever fought. (for the economic benefit of the industrial north). imagine if Lincoln could have devised a plan to [coerce, lead] oppress all the people into accepting his vision of the union, without firing a shot. how great would have been then? how great can obama be if he preserves the uniion [this time the union has no borders] without violence? i'm tired of americas leaders.
http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/kim-dotcom-plans-sue-hong-kong-govt-%E2%80%...
Somebody didn't get their cut.
His case is interesting. I think he made the mistake of doing things that appear problematic under Hong Kong law.
Hong Kong cannot be put in the position of being singled out as an offshore haven for copyright pirating. There are a number of practical reasons for that, the number one being the fact that they are the leading venue for luxury brand sales. If you want to cross the authorities in HK, do something that can potentially damage commerce. I'm not sure his lawyers advised him of this.
Kim.com is working on an end to end privacy program for computers, wireless devices, etc. Edward Snowden said any attempts to avoid being spied on are impossible. Really sucks. Snowden is a hero.
I spent some time looking for truly secure email and cloud storage and there is zippo other than what he is doing.
just look at how block-encryption works for hard disks and employ the same thing for accessing clusters (blocks) over cloud-data yet keeping the keys secure, remote, carried with you.
It's just another transit of the already-encrypted data.
What's on now is massive spying and sorting of unencrypted data because there's so much of it among the careless & so little care, apparently, for code-breaking anymore.
I remember when pgpfone came out. Damn near NO one used it. I guess that reflects the true apathy of computer users in regards to privacy.
Carrier pigeons will be making a comeback.Two for one with cloud storage included.
LOL! pigeon, cloud storage, yer KILLIN me here.
What's wrong with written letters, in envelopes?
They also open your mail...
In past history, the Post Master was also the Spy Master.
If they know you are a problem, they target your postal mail.
I speak from personal experience in having my mail intercepted and read by the Government, before Goverment later sending the mail to its intended destination.
Much easier now with all mail addresses scanned by computers.
That's what I'm saying: the chances of your paper letters to be intercepted are much lower than your email (which is, as proven, 100%).
how do you figure?
Once they have any idea of any person or location to watch you should assume ALL letters & packages in or out are inspected thoroughly.
What's a letter? Is that some mythical thing like libraries and unicorns?
I don't know;
probably You are right.
Shouldn't he be wearing the Nobel Peace Prize along with his medals?
Is Hitler looking for the medals that Obama stole?
Is Obama getting "Jiggy 'Wit It" or does he have to pee?
I called my CongressPuke on Friday. Asked that Eric Holder be put on immediate administrative leave and the establishment of an independent counsel:
a) failure to prosecute banskter drug money launderers -used the actual "criminally complicit" phrase (see you all at GITMO),
b) Fast and Furious,
c) AP Gate
d) IRS Gate
e) NSA Gate
Karl Denninger came out with a nice article after I had delivered my rant. I told said CongressPuke that I wasn't afraid of terrorists. You know....it is 100K times more likely that I would be struck by lightning than have a jihadist slice my head off with a meat cleaver. One would be a fool to be afraid. I am afraid of DHS and being groped in the airports. Mostly I am afraid of the food riots which will be coming within a year when QE fails and the economy implodes.
Denninger:
The fact is that my odds of dying in a terrorist attack are 1 in 20 million -- and that's across a period of five years. Therefore, the odds annually are about 1 in 100 million -- or less.
Even if I grant you the argument that discontinuing all of this crap would raise that risk by a factor of 10, which I do not incidentally, I am more likely to die by being mauled to death by a dog, struck by lightning, stung to death by bees, legally executed by the state, trampled by a horse (while riding), or sickened by chickenpox. I accept these risks.
I am more than ten times as likely to die by riding my bicycle, which I do nearly daily both for fitness and enjoyment. I accept this risk.
I am more than one hundred times as likely to die by contracting a gallstone, contracting hepatitis "C", be murdered by a jackass with a gun, die from brain cancer, die from AIDS or die in an auto accident. I accept these risks.
I am more than one thousand times as likely to die from the flu or lung cancer (even though I don't smoke.) I accept those risks too.
I accept the risk of death by terrorism. It is a minuscule risk to my continued existence. The facts are that despite the reason we call it "terrorism" is because the intent is to terrorize it's damned ineffective in doing so among anyone who has bothered to remain awake in middle school math class because despite the few jackasses committing their evil deeds they have utterly failed to appear on the scoreboard in terms of the actual risk of doing me material harm or causing my death throughout my lifetime.
In other words, to the extent that such "investigations" and "actions" bear on civil liberties no such infringement is either appropriate or justified, purely on numerical analysis standing alone.
I therefore do not accept your bull**** request that I "trust the government" when in fact it is a publicly-known fact that the government has lied and sheltered those who commit felonies, both financial and violent, against the people on a repeated basis going back well before you were President and which, despite your claim that this crap would stop when you were elected, has turned out to be just another lie.
1 in 20 million— Chance of dying in a terrorist attack in the United States from 2007 to 2011, according to Richard Barrett, coordinator of the United Nations al Qaeda/Taliban Monitoring Team.
Read more: http://swampland.time.com/2013/05/06/chances-of-dying-in-a-terrorist-attack-number/#ixzz2VkoiknG3One in twenty million? (chance of dying by terrorism). That's VERY GOOD news! I have a much better chance of dying by ejaculating until I die of dehydration. Yippee!!
While I respect your opinion and that you took the time to write, please let me clarify three things for you and anyone else reading this:
1) Calling your "CongressPuke" is like informing on one criminal to another. I understand the thought, but the action is just about worthless. Your time is better spent burying the PMs and checking and cleaning the arsenal.
2) The war on "terrorism" is not, never was, never will be, about "terrorism' but about money and power. They steal it and want to be able to keep stealing it. And if history is any guide, one has a much, much higher probability of being killed by someone in uniform than by a "terrorist." Does even a week go by without some poor slob being tazed, shot or beat to death by a gun and badge thug?!
3) If one were hurt or killed by a "terrorist" attack, the odds are that they are avenging or pissed by something horrendous that the US government did to him and/or his fellow countrymen--"blowback."
Where's the Limeric king ??? Something this big needs the Limeric king !!!
Snowden heard tyranny's call
A Hero concerned for us all
Courageous and brave
A nation to save
He stood when they told him to crawl!
bravo!
you bow to no one, you are the king.