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Sun, 06/23/2013 - 10:17 | 3683653 falak pema
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you are playing on words : end and beginning. End of the unofficial strategy now become official Pax Britannica play.

Don't confuse Pax Britannica and Rothschild. What Cecil Rhodes did in Africa, buying up whole swathes of Rhodesia, encouraging the Cape Town to Cairo imperial highway of Victorian age, as africa became the new continent for colonial rape; especially after 1884 BErlin conference; that offcially recognised King Leopold's acquistion of Congo; the colonial race was on.

So in that context what the Rothschilds did in Palestine was nothing original. Nor what British interests did in China. The world was up  for grabs by Euro colonial powers. It blew up in their faces in 1914; when thieves fell out.

You guys can only focus on Israel. Israel was the new Templar state in the OIL patch.

Period. And who ran/runs  OIL....????

 

 

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 08:09 | 3683395 Optimusprime
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Not sterile; not harping.  Just relevant.  You belie something not to your credit in these remarks.  By Victoria's reign, the Rothshild/Sassoon et al.  interests had successfully commandeered the financial, foreign policy, and security direction of British society--and indeed many of the goy aristocrats and tycoons were busily marrying into the rising Jewish elite--sort of like the US ca. 1930-1960.  Just when do you think the Rothschilds made their "I care not who bears the crown..." boast, Falak?  You are the one who needs to think again here.

To leave out the Jewish angle makes all recent history hopelessly opaque.  To make those who try to clear away the obfuscations (and indeed intimidations) that guard that opacity seem unduly naive or obsessive is to side with the obscurantists.

Make your choice.

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 09:13 | 3683506 falak pema
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I've responded to this before. Sassoon was agent of Pax Britannica, comandeered by Q Vic. Don't stand the pyramid on its apex.

From 1815 onwards, after Waterloo and Trafalgar, Pax Britannica ruled based on three pillars :

1° Naval Supremacy worldwide.

2° East India company feeding the Imperial home with RM badly lacking on isolated island, notably as the industrial age had begun and Britain unlike France was not agrarian but industrial economy and needed RM from its colonies.

3° Bank of England and Pound hegemony; fueled by Rothschilds to serve Empire and themselves over 100 years.

Its the British Aristocracy that wielded power and the Rothschilds fueled it with money and took their inordinate cut on the side like Sassoon did as agent imperial for Opium trade. Gunboats empowered that trade to flourish under Britsh Raj. 

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 08:15 | 3683409 BigJim
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+1, but you'd do better to refer to it as the 'Zionist' angle, as many of them are not Jews in any real sense of the term... and plenty of Jews are not Zionists.

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 05:36 | 3683219 Aquarius
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More like victims than tools.

submited respectfully.

Ho hum

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 05:41 | 3683222 falak pema
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by "we" I mean "the silent majority" , the sheeple, ducky.

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 05:18 | 3683199 Aquarius
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I forgot to add that Murray N. Rothbard's  Anatomy of the State

is available for Free d/l at:

http://mises.org/pdf/anatomy.pdf

Rothbard's magnificent work (one among many) describes exactly, nay, predicts in precise detail, the actions of US "Leadership" yeterday, today and tomorrow.

Indeed, a great Giant of a Man.

"All that needs to be said, has been said." Pallas Athena 5371 BCE

Ho hum

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 04:34 | 3683188 williambanzai7
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HK PRESS RELEASE SNOWDEN

This is Hong Kong's polite way of saying up yours.

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 07:29 | 3683331 involuntarilybirthed
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- HK will wisley/smartly avoid the issue

-Snowden is valuable as "you tell us about your snooping first"  and then....

-Snowden just moves to the next country for the same reason

-This will go on for a while as the US is in a security trap, temporarily.

-One must wonder what else Snowden has?  Is he holding a final trump card? Are the likes of Assange helping him?  Doubt money is an issue. 

-Snatch teams are on hands and knees sniffing his trail.

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 08:00 | 3683380 BigJim
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The modern-day Nazgul have been given their assignment

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 04:54 | 3683194 Wakanda
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Safe travels Edward Snowden.

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 07:52 | 3683366 bank guy in Brussels
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Yes, safe travels to Snowden, and to every actual or potential refugee, whistleblower, dissident, opposing the governments of the US or Israel.

Snowden may be badly advised or badly judging things, by not staying in Russia (or China).

In Iceland, Bobby Fischer, political refugee from the USA and leading anti-Zionist Jew, died shortly after arriving in Iceland, perhaps murdered by NATO agents - Iceland is a Nato country, crawling with Nato agents, tho not in the EU. The CIA - Mossad murder method if timing is not urgent, is to spray a fast-acting medical disease leading to rapid death, what seems to have happened to Fischer.

And I want Snowden to be safe and protected, tho I have had some doubts about the Snowden story given some holes in that story and how corrupt major media, and the Trilateral Commission Brzezinskis, were pumping him.

It is not safe for Snowden in Venezuela or Ecuador either, where thugs can easily be hired by the CIA to kill Snowden on the street. However accommodating the Venezuelan or Ecuadorean governments, South American streets are not secure enough from hired assassins.

CIA people themselves have said that Western Europe is the only place they hesitate to murder people, although they still do it here in Europe - Operation Gladio etc

Russia or China, or maybe Cuba too, are probably the safest places given the government's ability in those places to block CIA assassins.

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 08:25 | 3683431 Winston Churchill
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Just keep watching the right hand.Basic misdirection /tradecraft.

Who knows where he is really going ?

He and Greenwald have already stated they have a dead mans switcch,If Uncle

same pops them they will become a cause celebre.

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 12:28 | 3683967 JOYFUL
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Cuba is Mossad territory. No refuge there for the true resistor.

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 04:03 | 3683174 news printer
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Fear for Free!
Sun, 06/23/2013 - 05:21 | 3683201 August
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Fight the Future.

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 04:04 | 3683172 Aquarius
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The "Collective" That is, "State" is not a man: Within the "State" - mans' skin is not his own: Pallas Athena 5,371 BCE

 

"Man is born naked into the world, and needing to use his mind to learn how to take the

resources given him by nature, and to transform them (for example, by investment in

"capital") into shapes and forms and places where the resources can be used for the

satisfaction of his wants and the advancement of his standard of living. The only way by

which man can do this is by the use of his mind and energy to transform resources

("production") and to exchange these products for products created by others. Man has

found that, through the process of voluntary, mutual exchange, the productivity and

hence, the living standards of all participants in exchange may increase enormously. The

only "natural" course for man to survive and to attain wealth, therefore, is by using his

mind and energy to engage in the production-and-exchange process. He does this, first,

by finding natural resources, and then by transforming them (by "mixing his labor" with

them, as Locke puts it), to make them his individual property, and then by exchanging

this property for the similarly obtained property of others. The social path dictated by the

requirements of man's nature, therefore, is the path of "property rights" and the "free

market" of gift or exchange of such rights. Through this path, men have learned how to

avoid the "jungle" methods of fighting over scarce resources so that A can only acquire

them at the expense of B and, instead, to multiply those resources enormously in peaceful

and harmonious production and exchange.

The great German sociologist Franz Oppenheimer pointed out that there are two mutually

exclusive ways of acquiring wealth; one, the above way of production and exchange, he

called the "economic means." The other way is simpler in that it does not require

productivity; it is the way of seizure of another's goods or services by the use of force and

violence. This is the method of one-sided confiscation, of theft of the property of others.

This is the method which Oppenheimer termed "the political means" to wealth. It should

be clear that the peaceful use of reason and energy in production is the "natural" path for

man: the means for his survival and prosperity on this earth. It should be equally clear

that the coercive, exploitative means is contrary to natural law; it is parasitic, for instead

of adding to production, it subtracts from it. The "political means" siphons production off

to a parasitic and destructive individual or group; and this siphoning not only subtracts

from the number producing, but also lowers the producer's incentive to produce beyond

his own subsistence. In the long run, the robber destroys his own subsistence by

dwindling or eliminating the source of his own supply. But not only that; even in the

short-run, the predator is acting contrary to his own true nature as a man."

Murray N. Rothbard: Anatomy of the State

The "state" is analogous to the funghi Candida, that parasitical single celled carnivorous amoeba that inhabits all space unoccupied and devours all; this funghi Candida kills its host. Etymologically translated the funghi Candida is a political system which is imposed into a ideal environment (milieu) that supports its being. Change the environment / milieu and the funghi dies. It is the only way to rid humanity of this Mask of Death.

Ho hum

 

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 04:01 | 3683171 Dr. Bonzo
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BREAKING NEWS - VIA SOUTH CHINA MORNING POST: SNOWDEN EN ROUTE TO MOSCOW AT THIS MOMENT. DEPARTED HKG ON AEROFLOT 213 FROM HONG KONG TO MOSCOW SUNDAY MORNING LOCAL HONG KONG TIME.

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 06:06 | 3683242 bunnyswanson
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http://rt.com/news/snowden-fly-moscow-aeroflot-125/

UPDATE:  The only Aeroflot flight that arrives from Hong Kong into Moscow’s Sheremetyevo airport today is at 17:05 local time (13:05 GMT). Russian President Vladimir Putin’s spokesperson, Dmitry Peskov said the Kremlin was unaware of Snowden’s plans to fly to Moscow.

It is understood that Moscow will not be Snowden’s final destination, he could potentially fly on to Ecuador or Iceland where he has allegedly applied for asylum. A diplomatic source told the Russian news agency Itar-Tass that no request for asylum in Russia had been received from the former CIA employee.

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 09:35 | 3683554 Non Passaran
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> Dmitry Peskov said the Kremlin was unaware of Snowden’s plans to fly to Moscow

Don't US passport holders need a fucking Russia visa to board a Russia-bound flight?

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 05:27 | 3683208 Supernova Born
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x2

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 05:28 | 3683203 Supernova Born
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Putin is going to give Snowden the Super Bowl ring Kraft gave him and deck him (Snowden) out in a Technicolor Dreamcoat so Snowden can go full "haters be hating".

Americans traditionally root for the underdog. So in this case root for liberty.

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 07:55 | 3683213 falak pema
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I told ya guys he would be named chief security coordinator for the Sochi Olympics by Putin.

He can then drink champagne with Depardieu and sing : Love is in the air! 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNC0kIzM1Fo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2-VGDF4y18

Bon Voyage ES ! 

O the irony! 

PS : ES supposedly heading for Caracas Venzuela, via Moscow and Havana.

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 14:03 | 3684208 blindfaith
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Gosh...so many know so much so soon without facts.  So, you have the headline news?

New MEME:  HFS (high frequency speculation) beats CNN to the gossip.

Maybe he is on his way back to the USA but couldn't get a good connecting flight with flier miles.

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 03:52 | 3683168 WaEver
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Thanks WB7
Just downloaded stasiland. This is internet at its best : sharing ideas and knowledge.
Keep those excellent posts coming

Cheers

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 03:44 | 3683166 Poor Grogman
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The Stasi are in the dustbin of history.

And just like the Stasi couldn't survive once their economy imploded, so too the latest pack of sociopathic scum will also be looking to make a sneaky run for the exits once Uncle Sugars credit card is permanently declined.

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 10:22 | 3683673 nonclaim
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With that kind of logic you may as well say kgb is no longer ... yet, they are there and still running the place. Yes, they changed the name and not much else.

What stasi had then could today fit in a couple of modern hard drives (maybe just one). These days most everyone carries most of the time, quite willingly, a microphone, a recorder and radio transmitter so the economy of running that kind of business is quite different now. The ministry is gone, paper archives and audio tapes are gone but not the methods.

As for when the economy will implode the evil empire will fall too... the economy has already imploded and the evil empire is now just starting.

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 16:07 | 3684469 Poor Grogman
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These are still the "good times", people still accept colored pieces of paper created from thin air for the worlds wealth and toil.

If these "Intelligence services" had to be paid for with real money taxed Directly from a much poorer people, I suspect there may be a bit more of a problem...

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 03:09 | 3683159 dunce
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The Jefferson quote like most things he said has stood the test of time and been verified. The people that voted for obama the first time might be forgiven a mistake because the only other choice was another blundering fool. Those that voted vote the lying swine the second time are criminal accessories to the destruction of our economy and our constitution. Romney is no conservative, but he would have at least tried to salvage our country.

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 10:20 | 3683676 ITrustMyGut
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d00d...seriously? you still imagine there is choice??? really?

100% information means 100% control... no one comes or goes unless vetted. unless owned. period. obummer is a continuation of shrub, who was a continuation of slick willy, who was a continuation of sr...ad nauseum...

 

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 12:39 | 3683998 PKF
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Wouldn't it be great if everyone wrote in their vote for:

NONE OF THE ABOVE?  AND NONE OF THE ABOVE WON!!!

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 03:31 | 3683161 AmCockerSpaniel
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I did not like both of them, and voted Ron Paul. Yes I know, but I have to live with my self. In all my years, I only liked one candidate ......... Goldwater. The Jew never had a chance with the media.

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 02:51 | 3683149 ebworthen
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Bravo WB7 and thank you Edward Snowden.

NSA - please reference the 1st and 4th Amendments of the U.S. Constitution, and take to heart this quote from Founding Father Thomas Jefferson:

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." 

NSA - you are tyrants who are trampling the Constitution, and your actions are TREASONOUS.

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 03:07 | 3683157 Row Well Number 41
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Each man must for himself alone decide what is right and what is wrong, which course is patriotic and which isn't. You cannot shirk this and be a man.

-- Mark Twain

 

#41

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 10:08 | 3683639 willwork4food
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"Did they call you a nerd in school?" Never get a date because your face was always in the toilet bowl?"

GET REVENGE TODAY!

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 02:41 | 3683146 williambanzai7
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JOBS IN AUTOMATION

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 01:50 | 3683118 williambanzai7
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TOTAL  INFORMATION AWARENESS

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 01:37 | 3683110 Stud Duck
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William I do think you have out done yourself with this one!  The last one reminds me of my desk while a insurance adjuster in Miami for Hurricane Andrew in 1992.

James Howard Kunstler has a passage about the paper issue, and with government bureaucrats/inner city big building filled with the uneducated/under motivated filling all those desks/files, or staring at screens are not that fearsome unless as Gobbels said nothing to fear if nothing to hide.

I guess Neitche will be right after all in the failure to learn from history.

 

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 03:17 | 3683127 williambanzai7
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The Stasi had one agent for every 64 pops. They kept dossiers of everything about everyone. It was all basically kept in paper records, although I am sure they tried to do primitive databasing with Radio Shack Computers.

Nevertheless, the paranoia and mistrust created by the whole edifice served as a giant state control mechanism.

Now we are supposed to believe that the same thing cannot happen with all this amazing technology.

Moore's Inverse Law of Cilvil Liberties: Our constitutional rights are denuded in direct proportion to to the capacity increase of integrated circuit boards. 

I now have my hands on a copy of the book Stasiland by Anna Funder, which I am sure will be most edifying and the source of new ideas:

"The Stasi was the internal army by which the government kept control. Its job was to know everything about everyone, using any means it chose. It knew who your visitors were, it knew whom you telephoned, and it knew if your wife slept around." 

The other book on my list is Wilful Blindness which runs through all the recent whistleblowers of note, what motivated them, how they were treated and the typical reaction (which we know all to well) by those who are exposed, Enron, Worldcom, Markopolis, Assange etc. It's always too impossible to consider plausible. But in the end...

All of the Cassandras treated like parriahs or nut cases until the cold facts can no longer be disguised.

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 15:10 | 3684335 Rustysilver
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WB7,

I was born behind iron curtain.  I have spend a lot of time studying European history including central European and Russian history. It also helps if you know some languages from the the area.

A little known fact is that stasi collected human scent of individuals in jars (think of a gallon jar). They had German shepherd trained to detect the smell.

To protect the "system" no expense was too small.

Germans, as with everything that was unpleasant, swept everything under a rug.

After 1991, there was a lot of soul searching in Poland and most of the collaborators with the communist government were exposed: including catholic priests who were on payroll.

 

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 15:48 | 3684395 williambanzai7
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Chi pan mowi po polsku albo...sprecht Deutsche?

I spent a fair amount of time in that part of the world and the people there are very sensitive to these issues for good reason. And this is why, like you, I see the irony of what is happening now so clearly.

I am also very sensitive to these issues because both my parents lived under the Fascist boot in their early years.

I constantly run a sanity check by them and they agree that we who have been vocal about this stuff are not engaged in historical hyperbole. 

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 10:54 | 3683759 hootowl
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"Moore's Inverse Law of Cilvil Liberties: Our constitutional rights are denuded in direct proportion to to the capacity increase of integrated circuit boards."

 

Perhaps that should be "inverse proportion" to to the capacity increase of integrated circuit boards.

 

STARVE THE BEAST!!!

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 15:40 | 3684200 williambanzai7
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I think I was steering away from a false double negative.

Another DN ;-)

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 12:01 | 3683911 screw face
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+1

MOAR...............flotation devices

 

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 09:24 | 3683533 smacker
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"Moore's Inverse Law of Cilvil Liberties: Our constitutional rights are denuded in direct proportion to the capacity increase of integrated circuit boards."

Quite so. There is a dominant mindset among Western ruling elites nowadays that whenever new technology appears that enables closer surveillance/control over their populations, it must be used with zero consideration for whether it's right or wrong. In their paranoid, control-freak minds, the end always justifies the means. The consequence is what we see today in the US and elsewhere, if something is possible with technology, then it's implemented. Democracy doesn't get a look in.

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 03:36 | 3683164 imbtween
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Moore's Inverse Law of Cilvil Liberties: Our concept of constitutional rights is deluded in direct proportion to to the capacity increase of integrated circuit boards.

(fyp)

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 00:38 | 3683061 God Bless The V...
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Stand Tall Ed, your country-men thank you for having not only a spine, but the power of your convictions!

Your sacrifice is noted and if the Republic stands in another 100 years it will be from the patriotic actions of men like you!

The progressives of both parties are trying their best to destroy the founding principles of this great experiment in freedom / man's self rule. The fools who have their smart phones /worthless social media so far up their asses will one day soon be caught off guard and wonder when King Barry became a tyrant / dictator.

The Saul Alsnsky worshiping OBAMA (One Big Ass Mistake America), is going to be the best thing that ever happened to this country. The Lord moves in mysterious ways,and the fact that Mitt Romney is NOT our president just means that things will get so bad under this historically corrupt administration and congress that "The Real Deal" (not some bullshit progressive "New Deal") that gets ushered in will return America to her once mighty glory and back atop "The Commanding Heights" where she belongs!

God bless America and

may the good Lord watch over our Republic!

For Truth, Justice and the American way!

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 13:53 | 3684192 duo
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Simply put, Obama, Holder, et al believe that the government cannot break the law because the government IS the law.  Unfortuately, only a small percentage of Americans understand that it is only the Consititution that keeps tyranny at bay once men like Holder reach positions of power.

Oh, and the press' job in a Republic is to find and report on instances when the government DOES break the law.

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 07:52 | 3683367 BigJim
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+10 for the OBAMA acronym.

-1,000,000 for the Mitt Zombie, American exceptionalist, and religious references.

Sun, 06/23/2013 - 00:18 | 3683049 ZerOhead
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"Fire in the hole" back at the NSA... Alexander the Not-so-Great and EndGame etc corpsec slugs that previously lived in the shadows and under rocks are coming to the light of day...

June 2013 scores 73-0 for the good guys... What's not to love?

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