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The Great Comex Paper Gold Dump: Online Real-Time Physical Gold Price Datasource
For previous articles by the author go to: Gordon Gekko's Blog - http://www.gekkosblog.com
So, Gold is apparently “falling” again? But is it? Really?
Before we can answer that question, first we must ask - What is “Gold Price”? Even more significantly, why the hell is Gold and its price so important anyways?
So lets’ begin.
An Empire of Fraud and Deception
The US Government – operating today under the control of an international banking cartel – is running a global empire whose sole aim is to exploit the many for the benefit of the few. But because the people won’t be exploited willingly, you have to control them. Now, sure, you can use chains and whips like the good ol’ days, but then the slaves won’t be as productive and may even revolt if exploited too much. Indeed:
“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free”
--Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
So massive lies and deception such as – it’s a “free society” governed by rule of law, it’s a democracy, the government is there to serve and protect you, you have a right to privacy, you can be a Bill Gates or a Warren Buffet too if you just.work.hard.enough., etc. – are used to first sedate the people and then they are raped and pillaged using the biggest deception of them all – the currency. Whether it is secret surveillance on a global scale, wars based on false pretenses, luxurious summits, Bilderberg conferences, massive transfer of wealth from poor to the rich – all of that is enabled by paper money – the US Dollar. Ever since its Gold backing was removed (first internally, then externally) the dollar is nothing but a worthless piece of paper which can be printed (or created digitally) in unlimited amounts by the Central Bank, therefore enabling the government and people who control the banks to appropriate unlimited resources from the global economy (since the dollar is the world reserve currency) for their benefit. Due to mass ignorance on monetary matters (deliberately fostered since the education system and media is also under the government’s - and by implication the cartel’s - control), people normally don’t pay any attention to it and continue to work and provide valuable output in exchange for worthless pieces of paper (for a detailed explanation of the paper money/debt fraud and the role of Gold, please refer to other articles my blog).
So for an empire based on lies and deception, the biggest threat is if the lies start falling apart. If you’re wondering why a “superpower” like the United States is so threatened and infuriated by the disclosures of an allegedly low level employee, wonder no more for more than the technical details, it is the fact that they expose the LIES, and thus threaten their control over the slaves.
Imagine how they would feel if the biggest of their lies underpinning EVERYTHING was exposed? Gold is the only standard against which the dollar’s value can be truly measured since all other currencies are unbacked pieces of paper as well (well, they are “backed” by the dollar, if that makes any sense). If the Gold price rises too much too fast, it would expose the worthlessness of their fiat franchise, the slaves will no longer work in exchange for it and which is why they need to keep it under control NO MATTER WHAT. This is why they have designed elaborate mechanisms in order to help hide the true Gold price. But, in the words of a true American Hero, Edward Snowden:
Truth is coming, and it cannot be stopped.
What is “Gold Price”?
What you – and the world at large – refers to as the “Gold Price” today is actually the price of "futures" contracts traded on electronic "futures exchanges" operating in various countries, primary among them being the COMEX in the US operated by the CME Group and "regulated" by the CFTC.
So what are "futures" and what is "spot price"? As per goldprice.org:
Futures contracts, or just Futures, are standardized contracts for delivery (the seller delivers) or receipt (the buyer receives) some fixed quantity and quality of a commodity. Futures contracts are available for each month of the year. For example, a contract for delivery of December wheat can be purchased in May the year before.
The "Spot Price" (price of Gold for immediate settlement/delivery) - the price used as reference Gold price throughout the world today - is simply the price of the futures contract of the "most active month" (most number of transactions) trading on the exchange, with the month referred to as "spot month".
(For those of you familiar with the futures market fraud, you can skip the next 2 sections).
How Its Supposed to Work
Now, in theory, the futures price should accurately reflect the price at which one can obtain the actual physical metal since the futures contract is a legally binding contract to deliver the actual commodity. The exchanges have registered warehouses where the commodities with the requisite specs stated in the contract are stored to be delivered, should the buyer (remember this for later) choose to stand for delivery. A point to be noted here is that the futures exchanges allow trading on margin, i.e., you have to put up only a fraction of the actual contract value to trade, whether buying or selling (the amount of margin is decided by the exchange). If you're selling you can go "naked short" (sell a contract without possessing any Gold, only putting up a cash margin). So this type of contract trading on cash margin has a loophole in that a player with sufficiently deep pockets could overwhelm the market by introducing a large supply of contracts (buy or sell) causing panic selling or buying and unduly influencing the price to their benefit. Trading on margin facilitates this because for a big player putting up 5-20% cash margin is easy (even if it's in the billions), but procuring a large quantity of raw material, especially something like Gold, is rather difficult and subject to rules of nature. But the price manipulation can't last forever because at some point either you have to come up with the Gold (if you're selling) or front the full amount and take delivery (if you're buying) unless you choose to roll your position to another month. Now rolling over isn't without costs so if a player manipulates the price, it's usually for a short duration to profit from the price move and then they cover their position, at a profit of course. But the exchanges have safeguards against this in the form of position limits (no. of contracts bought/ sold at any given time) and also there are numerous regulations which obligate the exchange and its regulator to monitor trading activities and look for signs of fraud and manipulation. Hence normally such manipulation shouldn't be possible, and if it happens, is detectable and can be stopped.
So everything looks good, people are trading, real price discovery is happening, price manipulators are at bay, people are playing fair, Obama is bringing hope and change, there is freedom in the US of A, and everybody can live happily ever after.
How It Actually Works
Unfortunately, reality is a b**ch.
Now, what if there was a sufficiently large entity - so powerful as to be able to control the exchange and its regulators - having access to unlimited money with vested interest in manipulating the price - not for a short term cash profit but for other motives and a longer duration. Would that be possible?
Think about it. But even if it's possible, why would somebody want to manipulate the Gold price? That too, for a long duration and not for a cash profit (because it already has unlimited cash). Who would want such a thing and what would they gain from it if not cash profits? Cui Bono? Does anyone/anything come to mind? Who has "unlimited cash"?
Yes, that's right - the Federal Reserve. Now the Fed is just a front - collectively it can be referred to as the banking cartel or banking mafia which includes entities such as JP Morgan, et. al.
These guys are sufficiently powerful and have a fairly strong motive in controlling the Gold price because Gold competes with the worthless paper currency issued by them. A rising Gold price signifies declining value and confidence in their paper money franchise. They have to protect it at any cost. If this sounds too conspiratorial, well, I only have one word for you: PRISM. For a detailed explanation of why this is the case, please refer to these articles here, here and here.
They exploit the following loopholes to achieve their objectives:
1. Most people trading futures end up NOT taking delivery. A majority are simply speculators interested only in profiting by betting on the price movements (and some hedgers who do not wish to go through the hassle of taking delivery) trading on margin. The bankers know this.
Hence there are a lot more paper contracts floating around than there is real Gold. They are betting most won't bother and so far they seem to be right. Take a look at this extract below (via maxkeiser.com):
... COMEX continues to hold its place as the largest and most sophisticated meeting place for buyers and sellers to express their gold price opinions, in the form of bids and offers, on what the price should be. COMEX remains the beating heart of gold price discovery.
Gold futures contracts are referred to as "paper-gold" because the size of this market is said to be over 100 times larger than physical gold available...open interest on the COMEX, at the time of writing, accounted for over 85% of demand on the gold futures market, so COMEX receives the most examination here. In theory investors are able to take delivery of the futures contract on expiry, although few do, instead choosing to roll the contract...the fact remains that all the long positions on COMEX cannot be settled in gold.
2. As explained above (I suggest you read the whole article), Comex operated by the CME Group in the US is the primary futures exchange for Gold and is the trendsetter for Gold prices worldwide. They control the price on Comex and the rest of the world follows.
3. Since they (indirectly) control the exchange and its regulators (Crimex Comex and the CFTC), position limits don't apply to these guys. They're above the law. They can issue an unlimited supply of paper contracts whenever they wish to suppress the price and if required, can indefinitely roll over till the longs bleed dry. If you don't believe this, please explain how this happened.
Yes the longs can stand for delivery but most are heavily leveraged so few do. In a panic, even if it's manufactured, everyone bolts for the door.
4. If you have never taken delivery from the Comex, I suggest you give it a try. It's not easy. Even though the Comex is the primary price setting venue for Gold, the people in charge there have done their utmost to make it a huge hassle to take delivery. This is intentional. The promoters of Comex DO NOT want you to take delivery, but only gamble in their casino. If they win, great; if not, they can always pay you off in freshly printed casino chips (dollars) - just don't ask them for the Gold. If you did, the whole enchilada would come falling apart.
Disconnect Between Physical Gold and Gold Futures Price
But this manipulation is not without consequence and cannot go on forever, no matter how powerful they are. The bigger the manipulation, the greater the blowback. To explain things better, read the following (from one of my previous articles):
Anyone who has actually traded the Gold futures market for any length of time knows that this [manipulation] happens on a regular basis. So basically the government/Central Banks use the paper gold futures market as a price control mechanism for Gold (of course, they can't impose price controls on Gold overtly as it would reveal the lie - if Gold is a barbarous, meaningless relic why would you need to impose price controls on it?). But what happens when price controls are imposed on something? Shortages start to occur resulting in an even greater moonshot in price than would have otherwise occurred. A "black" market (which is actually the free market at play and depicts the true price of the commodity) eventually emerges where it sells at a premium to the official price. There are two reasons for this:
1. Buyers - aware that the commodity/good is available at a discounted price - beat a path to the door of whoever is foolish enough to sell it at the government mandated price. Availability at that price soon runs out.
2. The good becomes even scarcer as the costs of producing and selling it are no longer covered by the government mandated price. Aware of this, sellers withdraw from the market and demand ever higher prices for the good.
And remember: for marketable goods, the "out" is money, but the only "out" for money is a superior form of money. When the paper currencies become unstable, the only "out" is Gold so you can be sure there will be no lack of buyers, only sellers - and there is no upper limit to high it can go. Theoretically, the price will be infinity when no seller is willing to sell Gold in exchange for paper. You want to be "out" of paper before we reach that event horizon.
If the rigging in the futures market keeps continuing, the futures price at some point will decouple from the physical and become meaningless. This is exactly why you should use this opportunity to buy as much physical as possible at discounted prices while there are foolish sellers still willing to sell at the stated official (futures) price.
What’s happening in Gold futures market right now (and has been forecasted before) appears to be the beginning of “the disconnect” between “Paper Gold” a.k.a. futures and “Real Physical Gold”. Entities who:
- Were/are solely in the game for cash profits and don’t understand the fundamental basis for buying Gold but ride the price trends in the futures casino
- Have realized that the paper gold is nearing its end game and want to be solely be holding the physical
- Have been holding futures but are unable obtain physical Gold from the Comex
- Need to liquidate futures positions to obtain dollars (for whatever reasons, e.g. funds which need to return money to their investors in dollars, morons going to dollar as a “safe-haven”, etc.)
are in the process of dumping paper Gold (including the fraudulent GLD ETF) en masse along with the bullion banks (ala JP Morgan) who have a vested interest in keeping the price low. This is what Andrew Maguire had to say recently regarding the physical market:
Just off wholesaler calls. Most are too busy to talk at this time, but today (Thursday) will be the largest volume day this year and possibly 2 years. Central bank purchases are almost certainly far in excess of paper sales. We are so close to the marginal cost of production that my contacts are saying the gates are wide open here to purchase all physical that is available....
Continued paper market supply saw another + 45 tons sold into the rise ahead of Thursday’s fix and then in size directly post the fix. These were immense amounts of paper gold hitting the market, yet there is absolutely zero physical gold for sale and nothing but buy orders in the wholesale market.
We are below the true costs of production for both gold and silver and it makes a good deal of sense for the central banks to be taking all that is offered. Fundamentally this will have a significant catch-up impact.
Needless to say we are getting reports of extremely large allocations of gold, but also far larger direct producer deals being struck outside the paper markets. The one question is, just how long this paper market selling can continue to drive price when such a massive transfer of physical is underway?
(All emphasis mine)
There are strong hands and intelligent minds out there who know the truth and do not sell at every hint of a falling price. They care only about accumulating the physical metal – as insurance in case of system failure - not about short term paper profits. In fact, many of them will NEVER sell; only buy whatever the price as long as this fiat money regime lasts. That is why the price has been rising for the past decade even with heavy manipulation happening on the Comex. Moreover, the Comex doesn't operate in a vacuum. If the price is suppressed there, the buyers - aware that it is available at a discount - will flock there and demand delivery. If it can’t deliver, a break will occur in the prices being quoted on the Comex and the prices being quoted in the real world for the real metal as people dump the future contracts and try to find the physical elsewhere. This will render the futures prices worthless. By some accounts, the Comex is already under increasing pressure for delivery of the metal. So much so, that if you look at the Gold stocks inventory report published by Comex, they have recently put this disclaimer ON THEIR OWN warehouse stock report:
The information in this report is taken from sources believed to be reliable; however, the Commodity Exchange, Inc. disclaims all liability whatsoever with regard to its accuracy or completeness. This report is produced for information purposes only.
For questions regarding this report please email Registrar@cmegroup.com or call (312) 341-3370.
I suggest you call that number right away because if they don't know what's in their own inventory, then who does?
Of course they do realize the seriousness of the Gold situation. If they keep printing to infinity, the currency will eventually collapse against Gold. They are scared and desperate enough that they are thinking of using Volcker’s playbook of letting the interest rates rise figuring maybe that will keep the Gold price in check and the scam may continue. They just floated a trial balloon in the form of fed taper talk just to see how it might work. And boy, it doesn’t look good. Either way - interest rate increase or not - the economy is fried (which tells you why they are so interested in having laws and tools at their disposal which will help them control the populace – so they can perpetuate their power through an economic collapse which is sure to occur). And no, rising interest rates won’t save them because the amount of rise needed to stave off Gold is so high that it will probably kill everyone on the planet – either that or people dump the worthless dollars and move to a Gold based system. Bottomline is, whether they like it or not, the world is going to have a debt jubilee with all the fiat currencies rendered worthless. He who has the Gold will make the rules.
The tail is wagging the dog right now. Nobody – NOBODY – in their right minds is selling the physical. This is all futures movement, which as pointed out above, maybe 100 times larger than the physical market. We have to go through this phase to get to the other side. Think of this as a cleansing process. The fake futures market needs to die before true price discovery can begin. But this process offers a great opportunity to those who recognize it (for a limited time only though). We don’t know how low the futures will go, but there will be a futures price below which the physical won’t be available. Even though gold is already below its average cash cost, we don’t know that level since paper speculators outnumber physical holders by a large margin, so the accumulators of the physical can keep getting the stuff for cheap as long as there is metal available. There is no single one defined moment of the beginning or the end of the disconnect. It’s already started happening on some scale in most countries. With so-called "premiums" hovering around 20-25% for a long time now, silver futures are already worthless for physical buyers in many countries such as India. Premiums on Gold have also soared in India, one of largest physical buyers, while imports and gold coin sales to the public have been practically halted:
India's biggest jewellers' association has asked members to stop selling gold bars and coins, about 35 per cent of their business, adding its weight to government efforts to cut gold imports and stem a swelling current account deficit.
By the way, any guesses why that current account deficit is exploding out of control? That's right - in their greed, the Indian government printed too much local currency, and now they want to the people to be obedient little slaves and stop buying Gold! Bending over must be easier. Of course the "jewelers association" doesn't have a clue.
So, we have tumbling prices (yes, the Indian currency has fallen, but Gold has fallen more, so its gotten “cheaper”), yet no physical available, at least in India. Go figure. Soon this phenomenon will be seen in every country around the world.
Online Physical Gold Price Datasource – Real Gold Price
I’d like to first define what is “Real Gold Price”:
Real Gold Price is the price at which the Real PHYSICAL Metal is available for delivery to the buyer's own PERSONAL possession and is the ONLY ONE that matters. It is NOT the Comex Futures price.
Currently the difference between the two prices (futures vs. physical) is referred to as "premium" that you have to pay over "spot" (Gold futures price). But whatever the nomenclature, the fact remains that the paper Gold price no longer accurately reflects what you have to pay in the market to buy the metal. It’s becoming meaningless for people who want the real stuff. Hence, yours truly has created a reference database/datasource that will accurately track and record in real time the price of real physical Gold. The data is sourced from what the major Precious Metal dealers are charging buyers to deliver real physical Gold to their own possession. It is important to note here that this does not include dealers/suppliers who are running some kind of allocated/unallocated scheme because until and unless the buyers have the metal in their hands, there is no guarantee that the metal has not been sold multiple times over or if indeed it even exists. The supplier may be able to provide a lower price for "the physical" if they are running such a scheme (and given today's rampant fraud in ALL markets, it is more likely than not that most are).
Now anytime the price falls, there is available in real time what price the real metal is going for (I try to get the cheapest price for a given denomination, with the only condition that the dealer is currently shipping the item. Readers will have to help in this endeavor i.e. finding the lowest real price for different denominations). People will be fooled no more by prices of worthless paper contracts.
For now, the prices are in USD and dealers are also mostly US based, but any dealer can be included as long as they are delivering on time and have price updates online. You can check out the website here:
More details such as how the data is collected and displayed etc. are available on the site, but just to give a preview, this is how the charts look like:
The site tracks prices for a variety of gold product denominations. Here are what the current real world prices for those denominations look like:
*Comex price for denominations other than 1 Oz were obtained by multiplying by the appropriate factor (pls see website for more details).
As you can see, everything is on a “premium”!
If you look at the charts data, you will see that the real price right now closely tracks the comex price with almost a fixed difference (represented by the rolling average). It is my opinion that as the futures market breaks apart, two things will happen:
1. The fixed difference will increase
2. The patterns might diverge as well
Indeed, if you look at the screenshot below for the 5 oz product, the premium jumped from the day before even as the Comex price remained almost the same:
Of course, the data collection has only started since 13-Jun-2013, so I will be learning alongwith you. I’m sure there will be many things to see for the raw data doesn’t lie.
The site is a version 1.0, so I’m sure there are many improvements/features that may be needed. Please feel free to email me whatever feedback or questions you have about the site and I will respond as fast as I can. If I get many questions, I will put up a FAQ. Contact info is there on the site.
I remember some technical analysts looking at the Gold price chart and declaring that Gold is now in a bear market. I fully agree. Because the chart they are looking at is, in fact, the Gold futures price chart, which will continue to be decimated. There is no chart out there for the REAL physical Gold price which will continue to be bought as insurance against the stupidity of man and as protection from the depredations of paper money producing Central “Banks”.
This empire of tyranny and violence can only be defeated by elimination of ignorance and deception and bringing out the truth – in EVERY aspect - whether it is mass state-sponsored surveillance or fake futures exchange prices. Hopefully this website will help in exposing the biggest fraud of our times.
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Some parts of this article have been included from “What is Real Gold Price?” section of the website, also authored by yours truly.
Note: I realize some of the "premium" part is due to fabricating costs for the item, but how much fabricating cost can there be for a simple bar or coin? And what is Comex selling? An unadulterated sea of Gold?
Also, some people are suggesting that these premiums are merely dealer profit margins. Sure, the profit margin is part of the premium, but is not the whole premium IMHO. Otherwise how do you explain a 20-25% premium in case of Silver (in many countries)? Surely it is not entirely the dealer's margin. Anyways, as I said, we only care about what price we can GET the real stuff, not some idealistic notion of a price.
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IMO you should also track another price, what a gold dealer will pay you now for that ounce of gold. When I visit coin shops in my area they are still buying at spot price. I imagine a day will come when they are not buying at spot price since there are no sellers, they will have to pay more.
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Mr. Gekko,
Despite my doubts about the efficacy of transferring dollar assets into gold, I really liked your essay and I agree with most of it. I was wondering if you had written any essays on actual taking of delivery on Comex from personal experience, and if not, would you consider writing one so that your readers know what to expect should they try?
the real price of ounces can be found on ebay, no crimex needed.
Yeah, but if "Crimex" is offering me a discount, I would be foolish not to take it.
good luck getting delivery.
Well, surely, some do take delivery, so it is possible, right?
Just be mindful of what is contained within a "good delivery" bar. If you get one, it might be worth getting the thing sawed in half. Tungsten and all that.
Well, I personally never tried it because I never found the time. May you can give it a try (after consulting with your broker) and report back the results? You can email me.
Gold, schmold, it is silver that will blow this thing wide open.
They will choke on those shorts like a dog on a chicken bone.
smug bastards
right, because we all know central banks of the world are leasing silver & amassing it.
oh wait...
Spiked up 4.75% or more at one point today, still up 4% and no one even mentions it.
Sounds then like the little guy, who buys responsibily and takes possession then has a chance to make big gains against the powers that be, in the long run.
Game on.
If anyone wants to purchase physical at 1--10--100 oz Troy bars, assayed, certified, 99.95%, I work with a small miner who is discounting 5% below spot to raise cash faster to open more concessions. Limited monthly production. If you tell me who you are, phone and email I'll put you in direct contact. Greg@logigold.com
Oh, let me guess. These bars are made in china, right. I can get 9999 pandas on ebay for 1.00 each plus 75.00 delivery.
And if you think confiscation can't happen, consider this- most people (a vast majority) in a collapse won't have gold in significant amounts in their possession, and can be easily bribed by the government to turn you in to the authorities for attempting any transaction in gold, should it come to that. They will call you a "Lucky Ducky" and roast you.
that's what the guns are for.
And something tells me that you would gladly be one such informant.
I will never understand you Quislings and kneejerk pro-authority bootlickers. Never.
“The best slave is the one who thinks he is free.”
That's probably a far less eloquent 21st century (dumbed down) version of what he actually said:
"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." -- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
Thanks for this. I will update the article to reflect this.
Good Article...thanks.
Interesting that gold miners can possibly buy physical gold for about the same price or less than they incur to actually mine it. Yep....makes total sense in a world where central banks are creating more money/debt than ever before (at least in the last few hundred years....I am sure these same shenanigans occurred in the fall of the Roman empire).
All this taper talk is too funny. As if!!!!!!!!
I am afraid that even if you are right, Mr. Gekko, the powers that rule will simply confiscate your gold at gun point and hand you paper again if that is what it takes to maintain their control. This doesn't mean you have to take the fiat dollar laying down, but it would make me a pessimist either way.
They are going to have to confiscate my guns first. And that ain't happening.
They will not be able to make a case to confiscate an inert metal they claim is not currency.
No, they just have to shoot you first.
no, they don't have enough guns or ammo to do that, even with the DHS purchase of billions of bullets.
Know what they do have?
They have nerve gas.
Nerve gas might annoy the sheeple who live nearby.
I think I would take serious offense at being shot.
Me too, bro.
With a properly managed medium of exchange none of this would be possible. But of course we have the question "proper for whom"?
@withglee
In regards to your original, lengthy post:
"Commodities like gold, silver, oil, etc., are not money. At best they are a recording device ... like the tally stick."
This ignores gold popular function as a "Store of Wealth".
Much of what you posted was otherwise fairly accurate, and interesting IMHO.
Thanks for laying this out systematically. A lot of talk here assumes this knowledge but the general discussion is elevated by laying it out. Also tracking the real price of physical is a valuable contribution- it will be fun watching the spread open.
When they pull the plug on the taper talk Gold and Silver will take center stage. There can be no taper or the economy becomes a smoking hole in the ground. http://tinyurl.com/qhxpkyn
Totally agree about the economy. Not sure what will trigger the action in gold and silver. More likely physical shortages, COMEX delivery failures, IMHO. I've always thought it would be silver that blew up first due to the lack of stock. Who knows? The real story right now could be a pending silver delivery failure while everyone's focused on gold.
On that note, I just noticed silver is upover 4% !
Look at Au, Bastiat!
Yep, nice. +2.31% for Au (spot). +5.7% Ag (spot).
All I know is that people are bloody stupid. When gold reached over $1800 they were saying it was too late and too expensive to get in.
So what is their excuse now?
Exactly. Bull markets do not end like this (with a wimper, not a bang). You rarely hear the bears acknowledge this very important aspect (mania stage) of a bull market, which has not happened yet. More than likely, only 2-3% of the population (US) has ever owned any gold the last 12 years.
As usual, the bears are full of shit. They throw rocks because they can't explain away the fraud, deception and manipulation that surrounds us on every front, and especially in this sector.
Thx GG. Good stuff.
Yep. It's worth remembering that not one bull market in history just fell asleep and then died in its sleep. If they're going to go out they go out with a bang. Speciafically the daily price chart becomes expontential; (and never, never parabolic; because we don't want to be illiterate internet noobs, do we).
Totally agree. Unfortunately for me, it was the recognition of that fact that made me obstinately hang on to my mining stocks (since they haven't had anything like a 'mania blowoff top phase, and neither has gold). But given that nothing has changed in the fundamental case for gold (soaring deficit and debt - check, physical shortages and fraud - check, negative real interest rates - check, huge demand out of countries that actually HAVE MONEY - check) I'm still convinced that this move over the past 6 - 8 months is just a gigantic fakeout to get everybody out of the market before physical reality sets in again. Although at this point it's pretty hard to argue against the bears fucking giddy gloating.
there;s an expression for this amongst traders; "The shorts are money made"; but this is to get you to focuss on the details of the price charts. How do you get your actual profits from a short? you have to enter a buy order. As the paper profits of the shorts become larger the situation becomes more unstable; as soon as someone starts cashing in; everybody wants to cash in; you certainly don't want to be last. There;s never been a major rally in Silver that didn't start with a wipe out. Ever.
i LUV the mining stocks. putting them into my grand daughters trust. i LUV their pricing power. while 3rd world countries become consumer driven economies, these people buy gold. its a tradition. the miners will be able to pass along cost increases. gold is the new oil. trade in your car, a depreciating asset, for one which never depreciates. the miners pay dividends. zero interest is forever, (as the debt market has mispriced the cost of credit, sellers of credit will withdraw lending, already happening, credit crunch 2.0, on the way! want 0% APR, so does everybody else. next POTUS talks about credit DEATH panels, no they don't exist, lie lie lie. BUY the miners because there is mispricing in everything including gold. miners pass on the premium to the customer) TEN, no TWENTY years of monetary blowback. loss of confidence in fiat will not be remedied by more easy fiat. STARVE THE BEAST. GOP slogan, cut government off at the balls, too much spying, too much assassinating, too much for greedy bankers, nothing for ordinary folks. headline in TIME future , Is the Beast Dead? (government).
i LUV the miners, more than gold itself. they bring that wonderous stuff out of the ground and deliver it at my front door.
But until they learn how to manage their product, they're just tools of the banking cabal that runs the gold market (witting or unwitting, I can never tell). What I do think has a decent chance of happening is that, with the discrediting of the gold ETFs, when the price of gold does finally start to spike, when the inventory issues are finally acknowledged and price starts to reflect real supply/demand dynamics, then the ONLY option left for most people to get exposure to gold is going to be by owning the miners. So depending on how long that takes, you're either going to be leaving your granddaughter a great nest egg or a bunch of wallpaper (I'm in a similar boat at this point).
Of course, if the Freegold guys are right, then the miners will all be nationalized and will never get their day in the sun. I don't agree with this part of the Freegold analysis, but its worth looking at.
its the perfect wave, stocks on sale at bear market prices, a premium based on physical demand, monetary experiment fails, government shrinks, politicians have less monetary largesse, simultaneous altering of the conscious habits of industrialised consumers into third world attitudes (mcluhan said: preliterate and postliterate societies will converge) right now gold is the LEADING indicator in the stock market.
i followed Harmony gold for a long time, because the chart formed a huge triangle (bearish) which implied a price of $4. well we got there, and things look as bearish as the chart. which means its time to start accumulating.
good, analysis. I hope you succeed. Personally, I'm not interested in stocks. I like the bars in the vault.
I am blessed! How? Being able to recognise Jamie D, Blankfein and the rest of the pathetic tools for the scum that they are.
Life is good!
My guns, ammo, and farmland are holding up just fine,
thank you very much.
You can hide guns and ammo but you can't hide Farmland from government. When they want it they will take it by taxing it beyond your means to pay.
They will certainly try.
The trick is to own land surrounded by several states full of people who think like we do.
The urban rats have much to learn.
Great post GG. Keep posting.
Wait till the talk of taper fades and bernanke increases QE rather than tapers - because tapering = immediate collapse
Gold will go nuts