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i do not believe that Snowden would put himself in this position and then not divulge the specifics necessary to validate his claims of abuse. You don't jump out of a perfectly good airplane and then start negotiating to get reinserted into the matrix.
I'd like to make regular donations to the Clinton, Bush and Blair libraries. These donations will coincide with my bowel movements.
It's. It's so big.
so, who killed JFK?
the plumbers.
Onassis contracted the hit.
he topped himself, they airbrushed out the
revolver.
the second shot may have been ari?
remains a mystery to be revealed on the
50th anniversary of the death of Jackie's
last surviving baby.
"He's the reason we can't have nice things."
WB7 you deserve a (un)Nobel or similar Gong for literature/art/ journalism/ media or like; unfortunately these awards go only to ( for example PEACE ) fuckwits who sign off on $100 of billions on DEFENCE; maybe in the near future we can turn all this shit around!
The Nobel is yet another unfortunate farce of many :-(
Apparently this was some sort of revelation... “stellar wind” BWA HA HA...
:o
Edward Snowden: "My name is Ed Snowden, I'm 29 years old. I worked for Booz Allen Hamilton as an infrastructure analyst for NSA in Hawaii.
Glenn Greenwald: "What are some of the positions that you held previously within the intelligence community?"
Snowden: "I've been a systems engineer, systems administrator, senior adviser for the Central Intelligence Agency, solutions consultant, and a telecommunications informations system officer."
Greenwald: "One of the things people are going to be most interested in, in trying to understand what, who you are and what you are thinking is there came some point in time when you crossed this line of thinking about being a whistleblower to making the choice to actually become a whistleblower. Walk people through that decision making process."
Snowden: "When you're in positions of privileged access like a systems administrator for the sort of intelligence community agencies, you're exposed to a lot more information on a broader scale then the average employee and because of that you see things that may be disturbing but over the course of a normal person's career you'd only see one or two of these instances. When you see everything you see them on a more frequent basis and you recognize that some of these things are actually abuses. And when you talk to people about them in a place like this where this is the normal state of business people tend not to take them very seriously and move on from them."
"But over time that awareness of wrongdoing sort of builds up and you feel compelled to talk about. And the more you talk about the more you're ignored. The more you're told its not a problem until eventually you realize that these things need to be determined by the public and not by somebody who was simply hired by the government."
Greenwald: "Talk a little bit about how the American surveillance state actually functions. Does it target the actions of Americans?"
Snowden: "NSA and intelligence community in general is focused on getting intelligence wherever it can by any means possible. It believes, on the grounds of sort of a self-certification, that they serve the national interest. Originally we saw that focus very narrowly tailored as foreign intelligence gathered overseas."
"Now increasingly we see that it's happening domestically and to do that they, the NSA specifically, targets the communications of everyone. It ingests them by default. It collects them in its system and it filters them and it analyses them and it measures them and it stores them for periods of time simply because that's the easiest, most efficient, and most valuable way to achieve these ends. So while they may be intending to target someone associated with a foreign government or someone they suspect of terrorism, they're collecting you're communications to do so."
"Any analyst at any time can target anyone, any selector, anywhere. Where those communications will be picked up depends on the range of the sensor networks and the authorities that analyst is empowered with. Not all analysts have the ability to target everything. But I sitting at my desk certainly had the authorities to wiretap anyone from you or your accountant to a Federal judge to even the President if I had a personal e-mail."
Greenwald: "One of the extraordinary parts about this episode is usually whistleblowers do what they do anonymously and take steps to remain anonymous for as long as they can, which they hope often is forever. You on the other hand have decided to do the opposite, which is to declare yourself openly as the person behind these disclosures. Why did you choose to do that?"
Snowden: "I think that the public is owed an explanation of the motivations behind the people who make these disclosures that are outside of the democratic model. When you are subverting the power of government that's a fundamentally dangerous thing to democracy and if you do that in secret consistently as the government does when it wants to benefit from a secret action that it took. It'll kind of give its officials a mandate to go, 'Hey tell the press about this thing and that thing so the public is on our side.' But they rarely, if ever, do that when an abuse occurs. That falls to individual citizens but they're typically maligned. It becomes a thing of 'These people are against the country. They're against the government' but I'm not."
"I'm no different from anybody else. I don't have special skills. I'm just another guy who sits there day to day in the office, watches what's happening and goes, 'This is something that's not our place to decide, the public needs to decide whether these programs and policies are right or wrong.' And I'm willing to go on the record to defend the authenticity of them and say, 'I didn't change these, I didn't modify the story. This is the truth; this is what's happening. You should decide whether we need to be doing this.'"
Greenwald: "Have you given thought to what it is that the US government's response to your conduct is in terms of what they might say about you, how they might try to depict you, what they might try to do to you?"
Snowden: "Yeah, I could be rendered by the CIA. I could have people come after me. Or any of the third-party partners. They work closely with a number of other nations. Or they could pay off the Traids. Any of their agents or assets. We've got a CIA station just up the road and the consulate here in Hong Kong and I'm sure they're going to be very busy for the next week. And that's a fear I'll live under for the rest of my life, however long that happens to be."
"You can't come forward against the world's most powerful intelligence agencies and be completely free from risk because they're such powerful adversaries. No one can meaningfully oppose them. If they want to get you, they'll get you in time. But at the same time you have to make a determination about what it is that's important to you. And if living unfreely but comfortably is something you're willing to accept, and I think it many of us are it's the human nature; you can get up everyday, go to work, you can collect your large paycheck for relatively little work against the public interest, and go to sleep at night after watching your shows."
"But if you realize that that's the world you helped create and it's gonna get worse with the next generation and the next generation who extend the capabilities of this sort of architecture of oppression, you realize that you might be willing to accept any risk and it doesn't matter what the outcome is so long as the public gets to make their own decisions about how that's applied."
Greenwald: "Why should people care about surveillance?"
Snowden: "Because even if you're not doing anything wrong you're being watched and recorded. And the storage capability of these systems increases every year consistently by orders of magnitude to where it's getting to the point where you don't have to have done anything wrong. You simply have to eventually fall under suspicion from somebody even by a wrong call. And then they can use this system to go back in time and scrutinize every decision you've ever made, every friend you've ever discussed something with. And attack you on that basis to sort to derive suspicion from an innocent life and paint anyone in the context of a wrongdoer."
Greenwald: "We are currently sitting in a room in Hong Kong, which is where we are because you travelled here. Talk a little bit about why it is that you came here and specifically there are going to be people…people speculate that what you really intend to do is to defect to the country that many see as the number one rival of the Untied States, which is China. And that what you are really doing is essentially seeking to aid an enemy of the United States with which you intend to seek asylum. Can you talk a little about that?"
Snowden: "Sure. So there's a couple assertions in those arguments that are sort of embedded in the questioning of the choice of Hong Kong. The first is that China is an enemy of the United States. It's not. I mean there are conflicts between the United States government and the Chinese PRC government but the peoples inherently we don't care. We trade with each other freely, we're not at war, we're not in armed conflict, and we're not trying to be. We're the largest trading partners out there for each other."
"Additionally, Hong Kong has a strong tradition of free speech. People think 'Oh China, Great Firewall.' Mainland China does have significant restrictions on free speech but the people of Hong Kong have a long tradition of protesting in the streets, of making there views known. The internet is not filtered here more so then any other western government and I believe that the Hong Kong government is actually independent in relation to a lot of other leading western governments."
Greenwald: "If your motive had been to harm the United States and help its enemies or if your motive had been personal material gain were there things you could have done with these documents to advance those goals that you didn't end up doing?"
Snowden: "Oh absolutely. Anyone in the positions of access with the technical capabilities that I had could suck out secrets, pass them on the open market to Russia; they always have an open door as we do. I had access to the full rosters of everyone working at the NSA, the entire intelligence community, and undercover assets all over the world. The locations of every station, we have what their missions are and so forth."
"If I had just wanted to harm the US? You could shut down the surveillance system in an afternoon. But that's not my intention. I think for anyone making that argument they need to think, if they were in my position and you live a privileged life, you're living in Hawaii, in paradise, and making a ton of money, 'What would it take you to leave everything behind?'"
"The greatest fear that I have regarding the outcome for America of these disclosures is that nothing will change. People will see in the media all of these disclosures. They'll know the lengths that the government is going to grant themselves powers unilaterally to create greater control over American society and global society. But they won't be willing to take the risks necessary to stand up and fight to change things to force their representatives to actually take a stand in their interests."
"And the months ahead, the years ahead it's only going to get worse until eventually there will be a time where policies will change because the only thing that restricts the activities of the surveillance state are policy. Even our agreements with other sovereign governments, we consider that to be a stipulation of policy rather then a stipulation of law. And because of that a new leader will be elected, they'll find the switch, say that 'Because of the crisis, because of the dangers we face in the world, some new and unpredicted threat, we need more authority, we need more power.' And there will be nothing the people can do at that point to oppose it. And it will be turnkey tyranny."
Big Boy speaks:
http://vimeo.com/69229022
Does the Lying King's mane have words hidden in it?
I can swear I see the word TRAITOR on the left side
And DEMON on the right side.
HA! Most excellent usage of bathroom signs.
May I suggest another version of this with the dude sneaking under the bar, being a peepinSam.
Recent bumper sticker spotted:
BUCK OFAMA
"Lying King"
Perfect.
See photo & sign of protestor against Obama/NSA in Europe:
YES WE SCAN
http://news.yahoo.com/european-officials-slam-us-over-bugging-report-135...
Hello NSA Random Phrase Generator: http://nsa.motherboard.tv/
h/t Alan
Example:
I tried it and got this same exact phrase. Clicked through maybe 15 and got another repeat. They are using canned phrases, which are easy to weed out. The world needs truly random, grammatically correct NSA mad libs, preferrably as an app that can make automatic tweets or generate a new .sig file with each email. It is possible. Some MIT students got a randomly generated paper accepted at an academic conference: http://entertainment.slashdot.org/story/05/04/13/1723206/randomly-generated-paper-accepted-to-conference
They must have had some former congressmen evaluating the conference papers...
"I have a bacterial infection. Food poisoning. A toxic plume made an evacuation from my bowels."
Thanks for that; baffle them with bullshit!
You all keep doing this and you will give the Carnivore program enough indigestion to fart a plume the size of a radioactive cloud that would cover New York.
Its hilarious. Makes me want to open a twitter account and tweet nothing but these silly phrases.
I've been doing it all day, I mean all night.
Yeah but were you having tea with Snowden like my MILILTF was this afternoon?
Twitter has an API:
http://www.webmaster-source.com/2009/04/05/post-to-twitter-from-a-php-sc...
LMAO!!!
"What's this all about?"
This is what happened at the ballgame last night. Probably could be edited a bit better but I do not think that it matters in this case.....
http://www.boatingaccidentnews.com/take-me-out-of-this-ball-game/
Keep up the great work WB7. Your work gives us inspiration to never back down.
Off topic, but this item today did not come from the Onion:
"CAPE TOWN, South Africa -- President Obama on Sunday will unveil a new initiative to expand access to electricity in sub-Saharan Africa, in a speech that will point to Nelson Mandela's work as evidence of the potential for rapid transformation on the continent.
Obama's initiative, dubbed Power Africa, will attempt to double the number of people with access to electricity in sub-Saharan Africa, White House officials said. The president will announce an initial commitment of $7 billion over five years, federal money that will add to private investment and partnerships in six African countries. The first phase will aim to expand access to 20 million households and businesses, officials said."
$7 billion when we could maybe use this money to fix our own infastructure?????
The $7 billion power supplies are for drone recharging stations.
Rosie, this is a daily occurence. last week Kerry told Egypt to calm it's people or we would delay their aid.
Our Government hands out money on a daily basis all over the world.
bet he has a bunch of electric cars to sell, and of course each time he sells one $50 goes into his campaign fund. motor safely Soweto..
"President Obama on Sunday will unveil a new initiative to expand access to electricity in sub-Saharan Africa,"
Wanna bet it will be invested in new Coal fired plants too?
easy come, easy go.
$7 billion over five years ... while during the same five years, the rich OECD country of Israel will receive closer to $20 billion.
Some minorities is mo' equal than others.
a trillion here and a trillion there, someday it
will add up to real "money" even if fraudulently induced
debt is money in this system.
sanity has no harbor here, no sanctuary.
+1 for highschool dropouts (that recognize the importance of education and skill over attendance and a piece of paper)
+1 for Lying King
I know that the characters of Timon and Poombah have not escaped your imagination.
29 June 2013
Corporate Media: Journalism In the Service of the Powerful Few
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http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/2013/06/corporate-media-journal...
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" "And remember, where you have a concentration of power in a few hands, all too frequently men with the mentality of gangsters get control. History has proven that."
John Dalberg Lord Acton" ...jca
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first video 3 hr. documentary show the situation for what it is.
second video accurately portrays the state of the news and knowledge
base of the voting public as the corporate media likes it.
the horror !
the leaders dont' understand any better than the public. obama dances so fast some times its funny. ( i think thats' one reason he gets no respect, just like bush and his vacant stare, you could see right through him. no matter there are plenty of guys over at Langely to tell him what to do) its like the OJ jury, there were only 12 people in LA who DIDN'T KNOW he was guilty. once you understand this, you can only conclude this system is bound to fail. go back and look at the LBJ presidency, he had seven advisors closely held, and pretty much firewalled off from outside opinion. just like Dan Rathers fall from grace, because they spent a fortune paying him, and not enough gathering news. if anything the janitor could read the evening news, if the priorities were right
The ad at the top of the pages says two people are spying on me. I don't know, I just get this creepy feeling it is more like several hundred.
The Lying King almost killed me with laughter.
I RAN into one of the Chemical Brothers yesterday. It was the BOMB. btw what is the Protocol? I think We must proceed with the Plan...Our Scissors are sharpened and many. The three Wise Men will be arriving shortly.
Mohammed @ Faculty of Town Planning
I completed my list today, cash of course. There will be fireworks on Independence day, it will be a blast.
I have been wondering, should I put ricein the potato salad? Oh dear, I forgot to use the space key again. I would hate to be the cause of a suborbital bomb in everyone's GI tract causing explosive diarrhea.
LOL, with some practice, I think I could get good at this.
I wouldn't put ricein the potato salad, we are having ribs with castor beans, uh I mean cast iron cooked beans, w/ deviled eggs. The beans and eggs should combine for a toxic gas of monumental proportions. I will be staying down wind from the fireworks.
William, I would love to tell you my story of a friends run in with the NSA about 15 years ago over a "lost" encription device sent thru UPS. The NSA followed thru with their threat of prosecution but the asst US Atty's office plea bargained the deal too 1 years unsupervised probation. They had a look at his longhair and advised up front that he would not be drug tested, just sign the pleas bargain and getoutta our office, they were so embarrassed by the idiot actions of the local NSA idiots they most certainly did not want it to be run past the local federal judge.
I caught your email once but now lost it, I would love to tell ya "the rest of the story"! but broadcasting it on ZH may not be a wise thing to do.
I got lots more stuff too, like who the shooter is on the town bully in Skidmore, Missouri that was shot in front od 43 witnesses and no one is talking, how Ted Turner and John Malone have aquired massive tracts of land and not paying a dime for it, and much much more!
As far as the NSA and the paraniod clown that run it, fuck them, fuck the horse they rode in on, and fuck the dog that followed the horse!
I don't think it is wise to send any stories about the NSA over the wires right now ;-)
Yes William, I understand your misgivings on stories about those evil doers, but I have a file on me since the early seventies after the Wounded Knee thing. Pedro Bissonette was a good friend of mine. I have actually made numberous threats over the years to squre that thing up with the feds. Six of those Fed backed goons put 36 bullets in him and he was not armed. Grand Jury investigation, the whole smiel , but nothing came of it. Those fucks are afraid of the light of day.
I sent a link from hear on Snodens latest info on NSA spying on the Generals ect to a retired General friend of mine! Thought he might like to possibly reevaluate things now that it has been confirmed that they are looking at hhim too.
Great work man, the Lying King thing really hits those leftys that supported him as well as those freaked out conspiricy rednecks.
All of them are having what I call their "joseph Geobbels" moment right now!
Nothing ever becomes of those types of affairs unless the people get into it and demand justice. I am speaking based upon what we have seen outside of the US. We have a terrible track record.
People obviously should be cautious about what they say electronically now. There is no sense in drawing unnecesssary attention to yourself simpley by expressing your candid political opinions. It's sad that we have to think this way now. But it is irresponsible to do otherwise given all of these disclosures. I don't even like dicussing the electronic countermeasures I have taken in a public forum like this.
I am very comfortable creating images on this subject as you can see ;-)
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