The U.S. vs. Edward Snowden: Does the World Not Have the Courage or Decency to Protect Mr. Snowden?

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Something hit me very hard once, thinking about what one little man could do. Think of the Queen Mary — the whole ship goes by and then comes the rudder. And there's a tiny thing at the edge of the rudder called a trimtab. It's a miniature rudder. Just moving the little trim tab builds a low pressure that pulls the rudder around. Takes almost no effort at all. So I said that the little individual can be a trimtab. Society thinks it's going right by you, that it's left you altogether. But if you're doing dynamic things mentally, the fact is that you can just put your foot out like that and the whole big ship of state is going to go.


So I said, call me Trimtab.

--Richard Buckminster Fuller

Who is Edward Snowden?

Actions speak louder than words, and by his actions alone Edward Snowden has proved himself to be a real American Hero, a Patriot and somebody worthy of being called a Citizen of the World.  The sheer amount of personal risk he took was by no means trivial, and the reason he took it for makes it even more significant. I know some people are doubting his credentials and motives now, but it only exemplifies how cynical and cruel we - our current so-called “civilization” - has become. I’ve read his posts on Arstechnica, and to me he just comes across a normal kid of our generation who’s sick and tired of the corrupt and decaying system – the only difference being that he had the courage to do something about it.  Moreover, the fact that he’s being hounded by the western global leadership only further goes to prove that he’s done NOTHING wrong. He put his and his family’s life on the hook just so millions could benefit. He had the courage and conviction to stand up to the most powerful government and military force in the world on the grounds of principle alone. He EXACTLY represents what America was and is all about – an individual standing up against tyranny, an individual standing up for his beliefs - and he is doing EXACTLY what the Constitution of the United States demands of its Citizens. And instead of hailing him as a patriot for being a defender the Constitution, many in the public are calling him a traitor. Indeed:

Every nation gets the government it deserves.

--Joseph de Maistre

So far people of the United States have shown to be extremely deserving of their current government.

The morons and mafia agents in Congress (who, by the way, had special exemptions for themselves from NSA surveillance – the mind BOGGLES at the SHEER HYPOCRISY here) decrying Edward’s actions as treasonous are themselves guilty of treason. They have utterly and completely FAILED to uphold the Constitution of the United States. Read the following from the Declaration of Independence and tell me if we are in a different situation today or if Edward’s actions were not aligned with what the Constitution required of him (or all of us, for that matter):

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security

The oppressive regime of the current US Government - running an increasingly violent global empire whose sole aim is to exploit people for the personal benefit of the few - exactly fits the definition of the type of Government the founding fathers were trying to overthrow.

Ironically, the ONLY saving grace for the US in this whole fiasco is probably the fact that Edward Snowden is an American. If the founding fathers were alive today, no doubt it would pain them greatly to witness the transformation of the country they founded into all out tyrannical dictatorship. But seeing Americans like Ed Snowden exist, seeing the words they wrote hundreds of years ago continue to inspire and enlighten people in current generations , they would know they had done something right – that their efforts had not gone completely in vain. Edward, we salute you proudly brother, and wish that there are more like you in America and all other countries around the world who have the guts to stand up to increasingly fascist (but proclaiming themselves to be “democratic”) governments. Have no doubts, you have done the right thing, even though at great personal costs for which the people of this world shall forever be indebted. The world would be a much a better place if there were more like you. You are definitely a “Trimtab”.

The Rationale for Global Spying

The US government has provided as justification for its global spying operations the need to protect itself from “terrorists”. The fact of the matter is that if you do some digging, you’ll find that most of the so-called “terrorist organizations” in the world today were either created or supported militarily/financially at some point by the US government itself. Case in point is the current dictatorship in Egypt headed by an American puppet:



Saddam was a US Government puppet before he went rogue, the Taliban was also created by the CIA, among many others. Currently the US is busy arming terrorists in Syria. In fact, while it pretends to be running scared of “terrorists” all around the world – the US Government is itself the biggest terrorist on Earth. The people of Egypt have realized the truth, so must the rest of the world. The truth of the matter is that the people controlling the US government need these spying operations in order to have information on and thus control over the global slave population which are needed to run their empire.

A Corrupt and Bankrupt Global Bully

The US Government is a morally and financially bankrupt entity that in its megalomaniac delusion expects the world to “obey” it. It has the GALL to demand the very countries that it’s openly mocking and decrying to obey its demands. It is threatening them with “consequences”.

"We've got to start dealing with Vladimir Putin for what he is. [Putin is] an old KGB colonel apparatchik who disdains democracy [and] continues to stick his thumb in our eye."

--US Senator John McCain

"Mr. Snowden's claim that he is focused on supporting transparency, freedom of the press and protection of individual rights and democracy is belied by the protectors he has potentially chosen - China, Russia, Ecuador, as we've seen,"

--White House spokesman Jay Carney

"I wonder if Snowden chose Russia or China for assistance because they are such bastions of Internet freedom...[I] would be deeply troubled [if Russia and China knew of Snowden’s plans] and there would be, without any question, some effect and impact on the relationship and consequences.

--John Kerry

(All emphasis mine)

And instead of making use of the opportunity that destiny has provided them to call the US government on its bullshit and expose its hypocrisy; instead of using the opportunity to show some semblance of gratitude for Mr. Snowden’s efforts to reveal the US Government’s attacks on their sovereignty and do the right thing; instead of showing the world that US hegemony will not be tolerated and people who expose tyranny and risk their lives in service of humanity will be protected; instead of showing the people of this world that there are truly independent nations unwilling to accede to the demands of a dictatorial regime, none of the other countries has done anything. Ecuador and its president Rafael Correa seems to be a petty little man who’s in it only for the fame. He was happy so long as he was gaining all the popularity and sympathy from his nation and the world with the Assange case, seems suddenly to have become goody two-shoes obedient little boy of the master when Biden came with a beating stick and Assange’s role and media coverage in the case threatened to overshadow his:

“The moment that he arrives, if he arrives, the first thing is we'll ask the opinion of the United States, as we did in the Assange case with England," Correa said. "But the decision is ours to make.”

Bullshit. BULLSHIT.

But is this what we have come to? The world is relying on one small unpredictable nation to do the work that must be shouldered by all? Why doesn’t a single nation have the courage to stand up to the Imperial American Government? It can’t be military power, for it is unlikely the US is going to launch a military strike, especially against countries like China or Russia just to get Snowden back.  What then, the United States won’t “buy” any more of your stuff with borrowed and/or freshly printed paper money? Great. Who the hell wants a deadbeat customer offering nothing in exchange but worthless paper money? The world must realize that the US Government is a paper tiger simply surviving on the basis of running a global financial scam. All its power is based on lies and deception which is EXACTLY why disclosures, such as by Snowden, threaten it to the degree they do and why the US Government is hell bent on prosecuting the leakers. The US government is a bankrupt entity pretending to be a superpower expecting the world to obey its dictats. It’s time the world showed the US a mirror and told the emperor he’s naked.

Feckless Countries and Politicians

Sadly, the countries which denigrate the US have themselves shown to be no better. They claim to be “independent” nations yet are afraid of offending the United States. None of them seem to be able to stand up for themselves or for the greater good. The feckless politicians ruling them are hiding behind “laws” and technicalities but who otherwise have no hesitation in looting the public treasury or starting wars or killing their own citizens when their personal agendas or profit motives are involved. Apparently Mr. Snowden cannot travel because his passport has been (unlawfully, mind you) revoked. So what? Are we supposed to believe it is so difficult to issue him one by one of the other nations? Let me tell you, if he were a spy for some nation or even a low level operative helping the banksters in one of their looting schemes, TEN passports would have been issued to him instantly. This only goes to show that most governments today, “democratic” or otherwise either belong to or are subservient to the same criminal mafia. They have demonstrated that they aren’t independent nations but mere colonies/puppet states of the US Empire. In fact, most of the political leadership of the world seems to be in cahoots with each other sharing the same bed. These so-called countries are mere prisons with their political “leaders” prison wardens appointed by and/or serving at the pleasure of the US government. They are happy to exploit their prison populations for personal enrichment but with the permission of and in collaboration with the US and the cartel controlling it. This is the only explanation for the deafening global silence and inaction in the Snowden case.

Mr. Snowden’s Shameful Treatment

Letting Mr. Snowden loiter indefinitely in a transit area, is this how the world, especially Russia, want to be seen and recorded by history as having treated those have made the ultimate sacrifice for the greater good? Whatever treatment the US government has in store for Mr. Snowden, he is already being punished by being forced to sit inside an airport terminal in God knows what conditions. Is this how the world intends to thank Mr. Snowden for his services? To the leaders of Russia and China: It’s not some spy we are dealing with here – here is a person who has taken a stand to protect the greater good – and unless, like Europe, you were a subscriber of the NSA “data sharing plan” – exposed massive US spying on your government and citizens. Instead of celebrating and taking the opportunity to reveal the hypocrite bully that is the US Government, you are debating and hiding behind technicalities? It’s your chance. If you fail now, you lose your face in the world and your standing to criticize the US on ANY issue EVER. Moreover, it gives us reason to believe YOU WERE IN ON IT.

The world needs to come together if this banking cartel’s US Government’s tyranny has to end. If the rest of the world can’t protect somebody like Snowden then they have no right to complain against whatever atrocities the US Government commits. They have NO right to complain against NSA surveillance.

Today I am – as we all must be - ashamed to be a part of this world, this race and the current feckless iteration of the human civilization. We have shown ourselves not worthy of the courage and sacrifices of people like Mr. Snowden. The way Mr. Snowden is being treated, it almost seems better not to do anything and leave this world to the fate it deserves. If there is not even one person or one country able to stand up to this tyranny, we are all doomed to exploitation and extinction and rightly so. If we don’t do something NOW, then the day is not far when there will be a Nazi concentration camp in each and every country on earth. No more Snowden’s will sacrifice themselves for us.

A Warning to Global Politicians

Let’s be very careful about who we call "traitor". Edward Snowden is one of us. Bradley Manning is one of us. They are young, technically minded people from the generation that Barack Obama betrayed. They are the generation that grew up on the internet, and were shaped by it. The US government is always going to need intelligence analysts and systems administrators, and they are going to have to hire them from this generation and the ones that follow it. One day, their generation will run the NSA, the CIA and the FBI. This isn’t a phenomenon that is going away. This is inevitable.


And by trying to crush these young whistleblowers with espionage charges, the US government is taking on a generation, and that is a battle it is going to lose.

--Julian Assange

(All emphasis mine)

Rest assured, people around the world are watching the Snowden case VERY carefully. The means adopted were peaceful and motives genuine. If they determine that the world politicians will not support honest conscientious people and their actions; if it comes to light that the world governments were pretending to be surprised while being neck deep with the NSA and US government in this quagmire, no one else will offer themselves at the altar – not so easily. If the US Empire and its minions think they can control the population by gathering information and spying on them, they are sadly mistaken. Truth is like a virus without symptoms and no cure – you will never know who has been infected and they WILL destroy your empire from the inside much like a termite slowly destroys grand structures. Snowden and Assange have only fired the first warning shots. The war has not even started yet.

The slaves – once aware – will conclude that the current global leadership must be dealt away with and their regimes will be overthrown and new governance installed. The clock is ticking on the current world order of FAKE puppet fascist “democracies”.

In the end the Obama administration is not afraid of whistleblowers like me, Bradley Manning or Thomas Drake. We are stateless, imprisoned, or powerless. No, the Obama administration is afraid of you. It is afraid of an informed, angry public demanding the constitutional government it was promised — and it should be.

--Edward Snowden

(All emphasis mine)

Be afraid. Be very, very afraid.

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Thu, 07/04/2013 - 05:29 | 3720730 connda
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The U.S. vs. Edward Snowden: Does the World Not Have the Courage or Decency to Protect Mr. Snowden?

Answer: "No."

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 04:15 | 3720702 RECISION
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The world must realize that the US Government is a paper tiger simply surviving on the basis of running a global financial scam.

The world realises.

Unfortunately they are all running their own financial scams, and if they called out the US, they would end up calling themselves out as well.

They would all go down the drain together.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 11:19 | 3721211 tip e. canoe
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. . .

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 05:13 | 3720724 Gordon_Gekko
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Thu, 07/04/2013 - 03:42 | 3720690 fredquimby
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The slaves – once aware – will conclude that the current global leadership must be dealt away with and their regimes will be overthrown and new governance installed.

Looks like the Author just read 1984!

The masses never revolt because they are opressed. Indeed so long as they are not permitted to have standards of comparison, they never even become aware that they are opressed. The recurrent economic crises of past times were totally unnecessary and are now not permitted to happen, but other and equally large dislocations can and do happen without political results, because there is no way in which discontent can become articulate.

George would just love the internet!!


Thu, 07/04/2013 - 03:41 | 3720688 Bluebear
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Where are the Americans  on the 4th of July?  Protesting in the streets or standing by their BBQ grills?  If you feel so strongly about it, stop spending your time on ZH... carry a protest sign and go out there and get yourself heard!

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 05:53 | 3720742 10044
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so what are you up to today? 

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 03:40 | 3720687 piceridu
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Courage is indeed contagious. GG, you killed it with this post. Absolute grand slam.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 14:09 | 3721694 Gordon_Gekko
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Many thanks to you and all of you. But if you guys really like it, please forward it to as many as you can. Ignorance is the only thing preventing this clusterfuck from collapse.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 03:40 | 3720686 lemarche
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Thu, 07/04/2013 - 01:21 | 3720620 starman
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admit it were all chicken shit!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 23:03 | 3720431 Steel Magnolia
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Let's hope the American Military is watching Egypt remove a dictator. He didn't govern the way he promised. Who does that remind everyone of?

Edward Snowden is a hero! Half the country thinks he's a hero & half the country thinks he's a traitor. What a coincidence, half think Obama is a hero & half think Obama is a traitor. This country is divided right down the middle. Left vs. right, good vs. evil.

If we want to keep America, we will have to fight for her, she is under attack from within!

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 05:02 | 3720719 Kiwi Pete
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Given their desparation in forcing the Bolivian Presidents plane to land, the next leak is shaping up to be a doozy.

Bring it on home Snowy!

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 00:07 | 3720529 mkkby
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How ironic that Obama warned the Egyptian pres to respect the will of his people, or step down.

Yes, our military is our last chance.  Let's hope they realize their own families and friends have lost their freedoms, same as the rest of us.  Brave soldiers, defend the constitution you swore to protect and defend.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 04:11 | 3720697 Joenobody12
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You are dreaming. Who joins the military these days and for what ? It is a job with a fat pay check, that is all. 

Lets talk about the rape culture in the military instead.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 23:31 | 3720482 cherry picker
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Independence Day.

Instead of watching fireworks and warming up barbecues, it may be helpful if Americans read the Constitution and reflect on it, then look around them and see what is happening around them in the name of government.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 22:45 | 3720403 Ranger4564
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Ok courageous people, meet me at the square at high noon tomorrow...


You are welcome to find alternate arrangements to display your courage and candor... this is just an example.


Go forth and conquer.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 05:54 | 3720744 writingsonthewall
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That's the way to do it!

Every American who believes in the constitution should be out protesting on the fourth of July.

The state needs to FEEL the cold hand of change around it's throat.

You don't have to break windows, fight the police or get pepper sprayed - not yet anyway - you just need to show up.

Numbers is what they fear - nothing else.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 21:48 | 3720318 Zer0head
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Courage? WTF

now for our current cohort of grads we have opportunities unlimited

The NSA Comes Recruiting

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 21:44 | 3720301 alentia
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I wonder where the same freedom loving American People protesting in thousands in front of White House to stop persecutions against Manning, Snowden, Assange by US Government.

I wonder where the same, French, German, Portuguese, Italian and Austrian people protesting against their government decisions to "arrest" Mr. Snowden on board presidential aircraft and to break international law?

In fact, people do deserve their governments. It is frightening the world we are living in.


The only hope is Egypt, where people learn how to change the government they do not like and they did show it to the whole world.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 21:42 | 3720296 All Out Of Bubblegum
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> Let’s be very careful about who we call "traitor". Edward Snowden is one of us. Bradley Manning is one of us. They are young, technically minded people from the generation that Barack Obama betrayed.

And they were setup and used by older and more dangerous men. "Age and treachery beats youth and skill", to quote the old saying with regard to realpolitik.

Hell, at least we know that Manning is still alive. Has anyone even seen Snowden since his video?

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 00:30 | 3720567 Bringin It
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No and I haven't seen Justin Bieber either.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 21:27 | 3720273 Binko
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The leaders of these countries won't stand up to the US because they all hope to remain members in good standing of the great global elite club. Look at big Bill Clinton and all the "deals" he's helped broker since leaving office. I'd hate to even guess how many tens of millions this former poor boy is now worth. Mess with the power structure and no cozy club membership for you. 

It's not the countries themselves that won't stand up to America; it's the little bands of criminal insiders who don't want to anger the chief arbiter of the ultra exclusive insider club. The opinions of the public mean next to nothing; in this modern world a nation's leaders do what suits them the best personally. 

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 21:30 | 3720277 DEVILDOG
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Need to get rid of our traitorous government then the HERO SNOWDEN can come home.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 21:27 | 3720263 new guy
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Can anyone tell me how I can file a request with the Canadian government for diplomatic protection on Mr Snowdens behalf . I think we could use a guy like him here.


Wed, 07/03/2013 - 22:14 | 3720369 new guy
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I have petitioned my member of parliment but so far have not recieved a response

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 06:59 | 3720784 onthesquare
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In the past our government has hand delivered Canadians to the USSA government so they can be detained and tortured.  What makes you think Harper and Baird and their group of liars would stand up and do the right thing for Snowden?

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 20:37 | 3720170 Cabreado
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That's how Self-Absorption works, Mr. Gekko.

It is no coincidence that it is all unraveling at once.


Wed, 07/03/2013 - 20:08 | 3720104 taraxias
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Just when I think your contributions on here can't possibly get any better Mr. Gekko, you show up with this article.


Thu, 07/04/2013 - 01:12 | 3720060 Renfield
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Gordon, out of the park.

<< It can’t be military power, for it is unlikely the US is going to launch a military strike, especially against countries like China or Russia just to get Snowden back.  What then, the United States won’t “buy” any more of your stuff with borrowed and/or freshly printed paper money? Great. Who the hell wants a deadbeat customer offering nothing in exchange but worthless paper money?>>

This fearsome military, and all its invasions, and any future (real) war they're involved in, all must be financed. So for that matter must the NSA and all this spying. I do not believe the U.S. is in a position to finance anything (printing press or not) and I would like to know who would support the U.S. military, financially, should the U.S. step on any 'big' toes.

<<The world must realize that the US Government is a paper tiger simply surviving on the basis of running a global financial scam. All its power is based on lies and deception which is EXACTLY why disclosures, such as by Snowden, threaten it to the degree they do and why the US Government is hell bent on prosecuting the leakers. The US government is a bankrupt entity pretending to be a superpower expecting the world to obey its dictats. It’s time the world showed the US a mirror and told the emperor he’s naked.>>

This is the heart of it, although I think to tell the emperor he's naked you would have to travel to London, rather than to Washington.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 19:54 | 3720056 jack stephan
Wed, 07/03/2013 - 19:53 | 3720051 ThisIsBob
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Not to detract from the gravity of the discussion but this is just too good:

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 19:44 | 3720018 sgt_doom
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The Business of Business Intelligence

People are slowly, but finally, getting the message --- the memo --- the real deal --- unplugged from the Matrix --- however one wishes to phrase it, that the American intelligence establishment has never, ever been about national security, but about financial intel, today referred to as business intelligence!

The dood who wrote the report while at the Pentagon, urging for the full privatization of the American intelligence community, has just apologized for lying his ass off to congress (although he lied repeatedly during the Bush administration about those "weapons of mass destruction in Iraq") --- something he still has yet to apologize for:

The director of National Intelligence apologized in June to the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee for lying during a hearing, according to a letter published on the DNI website on Tuesday.

Director James Clapper appeared before the committee in March, where Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., asked him specifically if NSA spies on millions of Americans. Clapper answered, “No.”

WASHINGTON Leslie James Pickering noticed something odd in his mail last September: A handwritten card, apparently delivered by mistake, with instructions for postal workers to pay special attention to the letters and packages sent to his home.

“Show all mail to supv” — supervisor — “for copying prior to going out on the street,” read the card. It included Mr. Pickering’s name, address and the type of mail that needed to be monitored. The word “confidential” was highlighted in green.

. . . . .

Mr. Pickering was targeted by a longtime surveillance system called mail covers, but that is only a forerunner of a vastly more expansive effort, the Mail Isolation Control and Tracking program, in which Postal Service computers photograph the exterior of every piece of paper mail that is processed in the United States — about 160 billion pieces last year. It is not known how long the government saves the images.

And that's why they are going after the whistleblowers, including the latest, Edward Snowden:

The Defense Intelligence Agency, originated and financed during the Eisenhower administration, but timewise went into operation at the beginning of the Kennedy administration --- so it is incorrectly or falsely attributed to that administration --- was conceived as the military prong in the plutocracy's business intelligence complex.

Ever since its inception, the DIA has been all about the upper reaches of business intel (or financial intelligence) and a member of the super-rich has always occupied a top position there.

Whether it was Chris Mellon, of the Mellon family, who was with them in 2000-2002, and "leaked" the salacious information that Iran had, or was just about to have, a nuke (and that was how many years ago now?????), to Jeffrey Starr (Cornelius Vander Starr, founder of AIG, his grandnephew is Kenneth Starr, former special prosecutor aimed at Bill Clinton), who was mentioned as being on loan from the DIA to Goldman Sachs' Business Intelligence Group in the book by Eamon Javiers, Broker, Trader, Lawyer, Spy on pp. 191-192 (a real pile of drivel was that book!) the super-rich have been well represented at the DIA, just as their lackeys have well represented them at the CIA and NSA, etc.

And further on the business intelligence front:


Thu, 07/04/2013 - 06:50 | 3720777 onthesquare
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Martha Stuart was sent to jail; not for insider trading, but for lying.  Quite a split up selective legal system in most countries. 

Always follow the money

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 01:01 | 3720599 phaedrus1952
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Interesting that you should touch upon the DIA, sarge.  I have come to wonder if a great many the CIA's operations have actually been performed by DIA personnel these past several decades.  Mysterious and highly secretive organization.  When was the last time you all read about them in the news? While I have no doubt of Mr. Snowden's info being accurate and extremely provocative, when all is said and done, we may discover there is more to this story than heretofore publicized.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 04:13 | 3720701 Ignatius
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Wed, 07/03/2013 - 19:40 | 3720008 WTFUD
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When you manipulate the " real " markets you cheat and disadvantage future leaders and hence stifle natural progression of the individual.
Those who are guilty spend a huge percentage of the resources best invested in tomorrows leaders against the very same which makes no sense and bears no logic.

Oh to wake up in the morning having given of your best!

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 19:38 | 3720000 zanez
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GG: Outstanding piece. Made me decide to go to the local Independence day parade tomorrow carrying an upside-down flag. And telling everyone exactly why.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 19:18 | 3719915 WTFUD
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May the grey men standing in the shadows step forward and prove to the many there is a proper way to live together in peace and that every individual has an opportunity to live in dignity with self determination.
Fear or any other excuse went out of the window when Mr Snowden stood up to be counted and assume his rightful place in history.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 19:53 | 3720052 Renfield
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<<Fear or any other excuse went out of the window when Mr Snowden stood up to be counted and assume his rightful place in history.>>

Very quotable. I'll be repeating this!

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 19:14 | 3719891 blindman
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George Carlin - Airport Security

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 19:12 | 3719874 Racer
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The Gfuckermints rely on people to behave as in the Milgram experiment, the 'Stanford prison experiment' and the bystander effect

Look them up and you will be shocked and how they knowing this are manipulating people to go along with what is happening

The new Hitler regime is here and now and it is the United States of Fraud Und Corruption



Wed, 07/03/2013 - 19:09 | 3719858 spekulatn
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Well done GG.

More food for thought from a "grump" at Mr. Victor Niederhoffer's website,

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 18:53 | 3719817 carlsbadip
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We now know how Daniel Ellsberg would have faired under a Democratic President such as the great liberal, LBJ.  

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 18:41 | 3719782 ferret
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You are right.  All the power is in the individual.  Another example was Tinamin Square.  Everyone lionized the guy who bravely stood in front of the tank.  Whilethat took alot of courge the real focus was on the tank commander.  He probably had orders to clear the square.  He was probably a junior officer on a fast track, engulfed in the military buerocracy of his country.  But in that singular moment, he decided that what was going on was wrong and disobeyed his orders.  We don't know what happended to him or his family as a result of his action.  But it was equally brave,  If he had not responded, history would be quite different.  One individual doing the right thing, regardless of personal costs, can change the world.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 00:22 | 3720559 Bringin It
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I agree with everything you said except this bit - history would be quite different.

History wasn't different.  Tanks, [these tanks, other tanks?] did wind up rolling over the people.

Kissenger applauded.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 18:31 | 3719761 smacker
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GG, I note you read the Arstechnica chat exchanges. Me too.

Can you offer an explanation for why five years ago in Geneva he clearly said that "leakers should be shot", but has now become one himself and is looking for asylum.

ps: I'm not trying to slag him down, just looking for other views on this point.

Wed, 07/03/2013 - 19:49 | 3720038 Papasmurf
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Can you offer an explanation for why five years ago in Geneva he clearly said that "leakers should be shot", but has now ...

Maybe he had a five year plan.

Thu, 07/04/2013 - 00:20 | 3720555 Bringin It
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Maybe he knew how to feed the monkey?

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