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NSA Director Pines for Dictatorship

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Things would sure be a lot easier for NSA boss Keith Alexander if we had a dictatorship. Alexander said:

I think it’s wrong that that newspaper reporters have all these documents, the 50,000—whatever they have and are selling them and giving them out as if these—you know it just doesn’t make sense.

We ought to come up with a way of stopping it. I don’t know how to do that. That’s more of the courts and the policymakers but, from my perspective, it’s wrong to allow this to go on ....

(The quote starts at 21:06. But it's worth watching this failed propaganda attempt from the beginning, to see the bizarre mix of bold-faced lies, pseudo-sincerity and New Age music.)

There's a little thing called the "Constitution" ... but Alexander doesn't believe in it.

If you don't count this as a veiled threat, please read this and this.


BONUS:

Proof that NSA Spying Is Not Very Focused On Terrorism

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Sat, 10/26/2013 - 14:34 | 4093608 Lumberjack
Sat, 10/26/2013 - 13:05 | 4093374 LibertarianMenace
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The NSA has built a turnkey dictatorship. And what a fine one it is. It's only natural that they'd want to turn the key.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 12:42 | 4093318 blindman
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national security has no quarrel with
fascism. must be someone else's concern?

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 12:27 | 4093273 Emergency Ward
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The livestream from STOP WATCHING US rally:

https://rally.stopwatching.us/

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 12:26 | 4093269 Emergency Ward
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Looks like the live feed from STOP WATCHING US rally:

https://rally.stopwatching.us/

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 11:35 | 4093169 Doom and Dust
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Fucking sociopath is running an army the size of a medium power.

From Wired:

"A four-star Army general, his authority extends across three domains: He is director of the world’s largest intelligence service, the National Security Agency; chief of the Central Security Service; and commander of the US Cyber Command. As such, he has his own secret military, presiding over the Navy’s 10th Fleet, the 24th Air Force, and the Second Army.

I don't think any politician will have much leverage over this guy, regardless of any compromising surveillance data he may have on them. These people leverage their sociopathic constitutions into a kind of moral arbitrage, where having no conscience is an asset, and where constitutional breeches and downright treason are merely matters of reputation mismanagement.

They are here to stay. Until the Revolution at least

 

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 09:27 | 4092893 Mareka
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Even David Brooks last night on PBS starting to get a little nervous about NSA over reach with the latest news about tapping Angela Merkel's cell phone and monitoring communications of journalists. 

Here's a guy who has always seemed to assume it's the place of the government to run peoples lives finally seeing a problem.

It was OK when it is all about monitoring the serfs.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 06:28 | 4092645 blindman
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you might say we're screwed because the head of the nsa
has no idea what happened on 9/11 and has not learned
one lesson from it and is convinced of just the
opposite; either that is the case or he is just
another fast talking , silver tongued,
fraud and front man for a massive criminal empire.
we are screwed there too.
in conclusion, we're screwed and this video just
rubs it in a little bit more.
.
"September 11 - The New Pearl Harbor"
http://www.luogocomune.net/site/modules/sections/index.php?op=viewarticl...

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 04:34 | 4092559 Super Broccoli
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he wants to stop it now ? hum so there still must be something very interesting undisclosed out there 

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 04:14 | 4092539 zebrasquid
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Alexander's' dad, or at least his granddad, must be rolling (I'm assuming they were Americans, in the old, true sense). Or do we misunderstand the situation?
Things should not be so gray as to make it hard to understand. It should be starkly apparent what you stand for. Straddling the line is as bad as being over the line when you assume such awesome responsibilities and trust.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 02:18 | 4092496 failsafe
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PS the history of the right to privacy in the US is interesting reading, I think the first time a US court upheld it as an independent right was Griswold v Connecticut in 1965 but law review articles e.g. Westin( 1966) or Creech( 1966) to name a few out of 100's in 1965-1966 alone, describe the hearings of special committee on invasions of privacy of U.S. citizens. 89th Congress 1st session June 1965 (I believe June). The APA president Arthur Brayfield answered questions and defended research psychologists right to give and interpret psychological tests that law review termed psychological surveillance. Real issue was informed consent b/c questions extraordinarily personal, allowed administrators and psychologists to infer future mental states (yea, like that was valid), and without consent because even if voluntary no one knew what could be inferred. Brayfield testimony unbelievable.Gallagher was congressman and Brayfield says no, we should not have to get consent b/c we are researchers. People dismissed for refusing to answer questions or refused employment or promotion and if they did take could be diagnosed with anything. I believe Senate hearings starred Sam Ervin. Just FYI.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 02:18 | 4092495 failsafe
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PS the history of the right to privacy in the US is interesting reading, I think the first time a US court upheld it as an independent right was Griswold v Connecticut in 1965 but law review articles e.g. Westin( 1966) or Creech( 1966) to name a few out of 100's in 1965-1966 alone, describe the hearings of special committee on invasions of privacy of U.S. citizens. 89th Congress 1st session June 1965 (I believe June). The APA president Arthur Brayfield answered questions and defended research psychologists right to give and interpret psychological tests that law review termed psychological surveillance. Real issue was informed consent b/c questions extraordinarily personal, allowed administrators and psychologists to infer future mental states (yea, like that was valid), and without consent because even if voluntary no one knew what could be inferred. Brayfield testimony unbelievable.Gallagher was congressman and Brayfield says no, we should not have to get consent b/c we are researchers. People dismissed for refusing to answer questions or refused employment or promotion and if they did take could be diagnosed with anything. I believe Senate hearings starred Sam Ervin. Just FYI.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 01:48 | 4092467 failsafe
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Thanks George. At least now I know I'm not the only one who pines ... although not for a dictatorship or like, an end to free/the illusion of free press. Thank you again.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 23:18 | 4092263 patb
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I guess they never thought that this would get out? Heck, everything comes out eventually.

 

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 00:32 | 4092369 All Risk No Reward
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Freedom is slavery.

Transparency is opaque.

Bailouts for us is good for you.

Bailout debt is also good for you.

My words is truth.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 20:43 | 4091928 Serfs_Up
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FUCK Keith Alexander...yes, put that quote in the file, you psychopathic scum-sucking murderers!!

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 20:33 | 4091896 Burticus
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Pertecting uth from ourthelveth for our own thafety...for the children...if only one life can be thaved.

Got rope?

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 20:22 | 4091879 FieldingMellish
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What's with the black uniform? Looks like an SS general FFS.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 10:15 | 4093005 Escapedgoat
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They LOVE the colour BLACK. For black is the colour of FEAR.

And fear is what they hope to instill upon us

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 19:38 | 4091759 jballz
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All this talk about the NSA being a bad ting but now that I see they just want to pretect our freedom well heck I say spy spy away, if you have to ignore human rights and constitutional rights and laws and those sorts of outmoded tools for terrorists to use against us, so much the better.

Better safe than free I always say.

 

Anybody have a room for rent in South America? 

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 19:35 | 4091750 no more banksters
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"It is a fact that, the more the democracy decreases, as well as human rights in various levels (labor rights, atomic freedoms, personal data etc.), the more we are passing in a vicious circle, a non-returning point, which downgrades democracy and institutions."

http://failedevolution.blogspot.gr/2013/07/maggies-ghost-what-is-hauntin...

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 22:44 | 4092212 Borrow Owl
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Atomic freedoms?

Please elaborate.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 19:54 | 4091729 lakecity55
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"I think it’s wrong that that nsa spies  have all these documents, the 50,000,000,000—whatever they have and are selling them and giving them out to  Israel. You know it just doesn’t make sense.

We ought to come up with a way of stopping it. I don’t know how to do that. That’s more of the courts and the policymakers but, from my perspective, it’s wrong to allow this to go on ...."

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 19:00 | 4091655 Umh
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Spies spy, it's what they do. If we have these "people" working for us and funded they will continue to do what they do and feel good about it.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 19:22 | 4091709 doctor10
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hmm...proof that the 21st century will be reconstituting Nurenberg.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 19:03 | 4091664 Fredo Corleone
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"You're an errand boy, sent by grocery clerks, to collect the bill."

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 09:37 | 4092921 Navymugsy
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I up-arrow all "Apocalypse Now" references.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 16:04 | 4091211 MrBoompi
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What's with the creepyass background music?  It sounds like a goddamn funeral home.  No mention of the NSA, CIA etc being used for industrial espionage at taxpayer expense?  Why not?  No mention our foreign policy actually increases the threat of terrorism?  No mention our espionage/police state will not be used to protect us, but to protect The Powers That Be from us?  Of course not!  Because we're supposed to believe these are the good guys.  The professional liars who could care less about laws. 

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 13:02 | 4090494 Son of Captain Nemo
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Does "I Shall Return" come to mind?...

How many times have we seen this hubris before in this Country and done nothing about it?

P.S.

WB7 needs to put Alexander's head on MacArthur's body with a corn cob pipe shoved up his ass.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 13:03 | 4090490 rustymason
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The entire U.S. Government and all of our institutions have been completely taken over by left liberalism. Actually, this makes it very easy for us to dispise and distrust them. Under the direction of the hatefilled, lying, thieving, murdering Tribe of the six pointed star, they have made it plain that they are working harder than ever to not only eradicate my European race from the surface of the planet, but write us out of history completely. It would be more difficult for us to reject them psychologically if they were indeed trying to protect us and advance children's interests. Fear not, the U.S.S.A. will have a shorter life than their previous enterprise, the U.S.S.R.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 13:28 | 4090576 starfcker
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rustymason, google 'australia walter lippman' and you can learn a lot. they are a little bit ahead of us in ferreting out how this entire multiculturism horseshit became so dogmatic. your instincts are pretty good.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 12:32 | 4093275 Sedaeng
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I did as you suggested and ended up reading this bit of information here: "The War on White Australia"

 

Very interesting to say the least.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 12:55 | 4090462 Element
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Can't you let him have a few brown shirts? He seems really sincere.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 12:42 | 4090410 shovelhead
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I think the modern updated version of hegemony is to leave national borders alone (to short circuit resistance) but to create an interwoven economic framework that is supranational in nature and in this respect, multinational corporate and financial  companies have been remarkably successful.

However, that being said, the Euro demonstrates that they have been lax in over-extending credit and have shot themselves in the foot by creating a situation where the only solution is massive and constant transfers from north to south (which are politically unacceptable) or disunity by by cutting the Club Med countries loose.

The idea that NSA has the capability to read everyone's mail and phone calls and not use, or limit that ability, on their own is absurd. Who would when the stakes (and the profits) are so high?

Since the worlds various congresses and parliaments have abdicated their role in curbing these abuses we are left with the courts as a bulwark against total control by the multinational web of the Moneymen.

I'm not entirely sure we'll get the same results as the Lilliputians had with tying down Gulliver.

The bright side is that the Euro experiment proves that their greed overcomes common sense and without public backstops they would gorge themselves to death on risk.

I say let em die and ride the waves it creates the best you can. No bail. Go fail.

Ya know, like if I were running the show like I'm supposed to be.

 

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 19:59 | 4091811 carlnpa
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Congresses, parliments and courts have obviously been coerced into the apparently insane actions and decisions they make.

This is the danger and likely truth that the NSA revelations present.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 12:41 | 4090404 Reaper
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When you give a title and put a uniform on a swine, you still have a swine. A swine promoted and servicing other swine. He squeals out because, the trough is threatened.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 14:04 | 4090748 Clark Bent
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Have you seen the little piggies in their starched white shirts? You will find the little piggies stirring up the dirt. Always have clean shorts, to play around in...

Reno, Holder, Brennan, Hayden, that one bald-headed bastard in the glasses...

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 12:32 | 4090374 Winston Smith 2009
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"NSA Director Pines for Dictatorship"

That's to be expected when you forever appoint military generals to that post.  The military IS a dictatorship.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 12:15 | 4090304 Fred C Dobbs
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He belongs in prison. 

 

 

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 14:08 | 4090762 El Vaquero
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He belongs in a zoo, on display for everybody to watch.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 19:32 | 4091738 lakecity55
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He belongs in a zoo, being chased by a horny gay gorilla, for everybody to watch.

Sat, 10/26/2013 - 03:51 | 4092537 Manic by Proxy
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Would it be a gay petting zoo?

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 23:47 | 4092303 El Vaquero
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Gay gorilla or not, he should get zero privacy. 

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 12:43 | 4090411 earnyermoney
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But first a Court Marshall is in order. Tried for treason then hard labor at Levenworth Kansas. Give him some boulders to smash with 3 lb. hammer.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 19:57 | 4091804 Overfed
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Martial, dammit. Marshall is someone's name. Martial is things pertaining to the military.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 21:59 | 4092125 Imminent Crucible
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ZH is so great!  If I spend a couple more years here, I'll master the basics of spelling and grammar.  And learn a lot of gratuitous insults.

P.S. I already knew about "martial".  I used to listen to the Martial Tucker Band.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 12:06 | 4090274 CH1
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A self-righteous fucking monster.

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 12:03 | 4090242 williambanzai7
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Trick or Treat for NSA...

SPY TREK (WHAT DO U MEAN A MOVIE?)

Beam me up Scotty, there are no civil liberties here...

Fri, 10/25/2013 - 13:37 | 4090621 akak
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Their indefinite mission: to explore strange new worlds of surveillance, to seek out and monitor all data and all communications, to boldly go where no police state has gone before ...

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