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Legal Experts: Even TOTALLY INNOCENT People Should Avoid Talking to Law Enforcement

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A law school professor and former criminal defense attorney explains why you should never agree to be interviewed by the police:

Other criminal defense attorneys agree:

As does police officer George Bruch of the Virginia Beach Police Department:

 

 

We’ve previously documented that there are so many federal and state laws in the United States, that no one can keep track of them all, and everyone violates laws every day without even knowing it.

As such, it is best to avoid law enforcement when possible.

It’s vital to note, however, that the Supreme Court ruled this year that your silence CAN be used against you (the link is to the website of one of America’s top constitutional law professors) … at least until you’re read your Miranda rights.  Therefore, if you remain silent when police are questioning you, it is very important to tell the police that you are exercising your right to remain silent.  As the Atlantic notes:

Basically, if you’re ever in any trouble with police… and want to keep your mouth shut, you will need to announce that you’re invoking your Fifth Amendment right instead of, you know, just keeping your mouth shut. “Petitioner’s Fifth Amendment claim fails because he did not expressly invoke the privilege against self-incrimination in response to the officer’s question,” reads the [Supreme Court] opinion ….

It’s Not Andy Griffith’s America Any More

This is not to say that all law enforcement personnel are bad folks. Many of them are outstanding people.

But our police forces have become so insanely militarized and the fear of terror has become so wildly overblown that many law enforcement personnel have become hair-trigger tense.

People have been severely harassed when they’ve asked for help from law enforcement.  For example, an anti-war website was spied on for 6 years after they asked for help by the FBI.  And the FBI rifled through all of a woman’s electronic communications after she told the FBI that she was being harassed.

Police have recently tasered numerous deaf or retarded people for “failing to follow orders”.

And they’ve shot and killed people who were just looking for help.  See this and this.

Again, we’re not trying to paint with a broad brush; most law enforcement personnel are good folks just trying to do their job.  And police are human, too … sometimes they get scared and overreact.

But it’s not the same ole Andy Griffith show type demeanor among law enforcement today.  So it’s best to be careful.

 

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Fri, 11/08/2013 - 13:27 | 4135733 Nostradumbass
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George, thank you for this.

Knowing who the enemy is is essential in war.

The first video lecture by the law professor is exemplary!

 

Fri, 11/08/2013 - 11:52 | 4135375 ThisIsBob
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Breaking: 70 drug convictions to be dropped in Philadelphia because of police corruption.

 

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/20131109_70_convictions_to_be_dropped_due_to_police_corruption.html

Fri, 11/08/2013 - 11:38 | 4135338 xavi1951
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WGAF

Fri, 11/08/2013 - 10:52 | 4135151 Winston Smith 2009
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"But our police forces have become so insanely militarized and the fear of terror has become so wildly overblown that many law enforcement personnel have become hair-trigger tense."

A huge part of that hair-trigger problem is that many cops are ex-military cops or national guard who have served in war zones.

Fri, 11/08/2013 - 10:22 | 4135001 Offthebeach
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Police. One of the first welfare scam gov rip off agencies.

You need protection? Get a gun.
Are you a wimp, female, old, lonely? How about making friends, or even just talking to the not so polished working stiff guy down the street, hall.
Why should I subsidize you?
Got a lot of valuables? You ptotect it. Not me. Can't afford a private guard? Sell some. Or not.

Police=Security Welfare

Sat, 11/09/2013 - 04:26 | 4138004 FreedomGuy
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I agree partially with what I believe you are trying to state, but only partially.

The proper idea behind police is that we all can sit on our front porch with a shotgun and guard ourselves 24/7. In a free society this is a right. However, it is impractical. So, our whole block gets together and hires a security guy. It's not too expensive if we all pitch in and then we can go do other productive thing. When you see a private security car or you hire ADT you are never afraid as an innocent member of the public...a citizen.

The problem is that modern police do NOT work for you. They work for the State. They get what I call the "employee effect". Your name is not on their paycheck and you do not write the laws or rules. Since they signed up for this government job they answer to government. So, it is much easier to corrupt them and you cannot fire them. They also get the rights of force against you that no private company actually hired by you would be allowed. The employee effect also works on your neighbor who becomes mayor. You two used to watch football and eat barbeque together. But once he is elected mayor suddently the red light cameras and the revenue are too good to pass up. Suddenly it is not about you or your life or making life good for citizens. He is the State and works to the good of the State forgetting about the other side as civil servant.

The good part of these videos is to state that while the cops might be good guys they really are NOT on your side. If they are bad and assert stupid things like "I am the law." you are even worse off. The corruption of power mixed with whatever bad psychology they may have can be lethal to your livlihood.

With hundreds of thousands of pages of laws on the books we are all definitely lawbreakers of some sort. So, when they come for you I do agree, best not to cooperate. Force them to make the case without your help.

Fri, 11/08/2013 - 10:02 | 4134665 rustymason
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I remember in the 1960's that the liberals/lefties began calling the cops "pigs" and disrespecting them openly and loudly at every opportunity. This was very surprising and offensive to probably 98% of America. The police at that time were very tame, mostly honest, and respectful of the public. Those "ex" hippies gained power and are now in charge. They still hate the West and Westerners/Christians with an unquenchable passion. They have recently militarized the police and have made sure that the departments are filled with leftists, bureaucrats, and psychopaths. And now they have the nerve to complain about the situation.

Liberalism is a mental disorder.

Fri, 11/08/2013 - 12:06 | 4135431 DeadFred
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I was a kid growing up in a law-and-order household at that time with lots of family friends who were cops so I got to hear the off the record accounts of their lives. I seriously object to your assertion that they were "tame and mostly honest". I heard enough bragging about overt perjury and how "the greasy wetback" deserved to have evidence planted on them that I am now a defence attorney's dream juror.

Sat, 11/09/2013 - 04:32 | 4138005 FreedomGuy
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I agree. Virtually all cops bend or break the law at times and they do not appreciate you pointing it out. Ask any cop how many cops speed. He should plead the Fifth. They all do but they do not write each other up except in the extremes. Most think they are doing good and probably are on balance. However, it is not so hard to corrupt and use that if you are a corrupt politician.

Fri, 11/08/2013 - 12:16 | 4135413 ThisIsBob
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  • Nah, I was there in the 60's and doing it.  We were mostly prescient hippies with amorphous political views.
Fri, 11/08/2013 - 10:26 | 4135024 czardas
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It has nothing to do with liberalism.  99% of cops are not liberals.  The two problems - the militarization of the police and the aim of the vast majority of new laws (law-abiding citizens, not criminals) go hand in hand.  My wife in an attorney with horror stories of entire police departments surviving by confiscating cash, homes and cars in unlawful / questionable actions.  

A store owner deposited less than $10,000 nightly because of insurance.  He was raided and his money has still not been recovered despite no charges or evidence of wrong doing.  Homes of parents are being confiscated because their children who sold drugs stayed there in the past month.  Cars are taken on "suspicion".  I never thought I'd find myself agreeing with GW but these incidents are multiplied 1000 fold and this does not even count the numerous SWAT hits and murders on the wrong house / suspect.  We need a radical change that is not coming since entertainment has given the public shows of cops with machine guns, riot gear, paramilitary tactics, violent home entries and "decisive" actions.  It takes effort to stay civilized.

Fri, 11/08/2013 - 11:34 | 4135293 fleur de lis
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It has everything to do with liberalism. This insidious system tells us we can do anything we want as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else. What an infantile statement yet it is accepted. That's how we're stuck with anti-social behavior at every level. It promotes egomania resulting in social disorder. You think is wasn't planned that way? The cops are told to keep order when chaos is defended as freedom. Remember all the vids of the various University brats setting cars on fire and wrecking property after a game goes one way or another? Why are they or the University not made to pay? Because some big shot liberal jerk makes excuses. If the cops put a finger on them they would whine like children and get away with it. Again.

Violent homes? How about connecting that to intact families vs telling teenagers they can do whatever they want and some agency will be there for them, contradicting the authority of the parents. Or maybe insisting that parents take their roles seriously instead of leaving it to teachers in the public school indoctrination system. They are in turn restricted when it comes to unruly children. Or constant potshots at religious authorities knowing that the most vulnerable need those guardrails. How about the sludge out of Hollywood? As long as it's not hurting anybody else, right? Nevermind the corrosive effect it has on our society, especially the young. We are all now well and truly coarsened and used to disgusting displays in the name of freedom. Confiscation homes and cash? Are you really that surprised? Where have you been all these decades? Have you been paying attention to the antics in Congress where they do anything they want with impunity? Why would that not trickle down?

America is slowly starting to wake up to the fact that while it was living like perpetual teenagers, and being told it's okay to do anything you want as long as you don't hurt anyone, our freedoms and protections were quietly being whittled away.  We weren't paying attention because it was more fun to do what we want. We didn't have to adhere to those stuffy old rules that took thousands of years and painful lessons to form. Now the authorities can do whatever they want and they don't care who gets hurt. The party's over.

Sat, 11/09/2013 - 04:16 | 4137998 FreedomGuy
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Your reasoning is actually backwards. You cannot have a police state without police and without lots of laws. Hence, things that are harmless to others but codified as "good for you" or bad for you end up as law and only work against you. Seat belt laws are a favorite of mine. If you do not wear a seat belt it harms no one else, except perhaps your insurance company. However, you can be harassed and fined over stupid stuff like this.

Fri, 11/08/2013 - 08:59 | 4134589 economicmorphine
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You're being way too nice.  Most cops used to be good people.  Most are not any more.  No good person would allow himself or herself to be used in the manner that modern LE officers do.  Other than that, I have no issue with what you wrote.  Best to keep these people out of your life as much as is humanly possible.

Fri, 11/08/2013 - 09:55 | 4134843 preppin.for.the...
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My wife briefly served as a county sheriff's deputy and quit after finding the department mostly filled with a bunch of assholes who love having power over others and use the badge to shield actions that would get any normal citizen arrested. 

I used to trust police until I heard her numerous stories about LEOs who could care less about the constitution or serving their community.  They just want the thrill of jacking someone up and look for an excuse to do it.

Combine thuggery with access to all the "cool shit" they see Navy SEALs carrying around, and we've got a pretty serious problem. 

Every police and sheriff department should have elected, unpaid citizen oversight boards with the power to hire and fire any LEO.

 

 

Fri, 11/08/2013 - 10:18 | 4134978 Mi Naem
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"Every police and sheriff department should have elected, unpaid citizen oversight boards with the power to hire and fire any LEO."

Good idea. 

Fri, 11/08/2013 - 10:46 | 4135088 1Inthebeginning
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Fri, 11/08/2013 - 07:20 | 4134429 Troy Ounce
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There is a proposal for a law out in Holland which grants the police permission to have look into your natural openings without warrent or suspicion.

Their request for some fun will then be reason enough, I guess.

 

Fri, 11/08/2013 - 10:19 | 4134987 overmedicatedun...
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for safty and peace, live where there are few cops, and open carry laws...rogue cops abound were there are gun free zones, as in NYC, guys with no weapon of any kind are shot multiple times, or even worse in DC were a young unarmed mother with her child in the car is gunned down like a dog...19 shots fired all by our protect and serve goons.

Fri, 11/08/2013 - 07:51 | 4134465 Watauga
Fri, 11/08/2013 - 02:34 | 4134237 TyrannoSoros Wrecks
Fri, 11/08/2013 - 08:36 | 4134530 GMadScientist
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Umm...you're using A FUCKING RADIO. of course they can "track you", imbeciles. You're just gonna have to learn to leave your burner at home when you go to score heroin I guess.

 

Fri, 11/08/2013 - 02:29 | 4134229 Trampy
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Failure to Obey a Lawful Order is a chump-charge misdemeanor found pretty much everywhere in Amerika, and it can easily get you in cuffs, thoroughly searched incident to arrest, and then held in jail until arraignment.   From then and forever more, if you're ever asked "have you ever been arrested," the people who can honestly say No are often better off than the ones who can't.  Just sayin.

I once consented to to a search of my trunk on crossing a state line in a beat-up old car occupied by long-haired college students and because we'd been driving 40 hours straight going "back home" for Xmas, and they were calling for reinforcementa and a K9 unit .... in a pouring rain the cop said with a straight face that he feared for public safety because it appeared that my car was leaking gasoline (with fuel tank UNDER trunk) and there was no smell of gas, just water dripping, so why the heck did he want so badly to have me open the trunk?  Because he was hoping he'd see it full of MJ, which wasn't there, so it seemed like a good idea to just bend over and be violated for a minute instead of maybe going to jail.

Quite a few states have laws REQUIRING that any person asked for ID must identify themselves on request by LEO.

Before anyone decides how they'd deal with various scenarios of police interaction, it's be a good idea to know your rights, because they vary from place to place. 

If there's one thing that ppeople ought to practice saying, it's

"I'd prefer not to ... and will be going."  and then GO.  If you can't go they'll tell you.  Otherwise you're always free to go.

When questioned always give the absolute minimum information.  Like "are you a student here?"  is best answered "not at the moment" because if you say you used to but graduated there, they'll start asking you when and what you studied, etc, etc.  So the best thing to say is vague negative answers to everything asked of you and it's always a good a idea to let them know right away that you know you rights ... ESPECIALLY the right to be on your way ... but only if you really do know your rights!

Fri, 11/08/2013 - 01:21 | 4134126 I Write Code
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Scooter Libby.

Thu, 11/07/2013 - 22:54 | 4133716 Money Squid
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if you have had any casaul encounter with a cop in the last decade you would have realized they are now total a-holes, the love being angry a-holes, they are very angry, and they are so stupid they think that by protecting a crooked system that the crooked system will take care of them. Wrong, the crooked system uses cops like the easily replacible meat sacks they are and their pensions will be lost just like everyone else.

Most cops not only do not know the law they think they are supposed to uphold but with all the video recorders the public is getting a better, sour taste of just what these cops are doing: lying, planting evidence, assualt, rape, intimidation, murder, banging hookers on the clock, selling dope, running gangs.

Thu, 11/07/2013 - 22:37 | 4133646 habitualminer
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Outstanding post--are the enemas they give you covered under O'bama care?

Fri, 11/08/2013 - 10:39 | 4135083 Heffer
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see "the Illinios enema bandit"

Thu, 11/07/2013 - 23:20 | 4133820 brettd
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That's the New Mexico Special....

Thu, 11/07/2013 - 22:12 | 4133555 blindman
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speaking of crime and lawyers, not to mention prosecutors, consider
the case of r. Giuliani, not to mention that kerick criminal at and
before the infamous 9/11 crime.
while there, think of the case of mr. michael franzese, notorious
mob whistle blower who survived his life of crime to talk about
the mechanisms of graft and such.
.
9/11 was the turning point, the moment of shark jumping. the
day to live in infamy where the authorities openly adopted the
methods of the crime element as superior, tried and true methods
to defraud and feed on the "public" organisation.
r.g. is the perfect example; once a prosecutor of rico crime
cases against the mob, fully aware of the rules of evidence and
investigation on 9/11 all that changed. the shark was jumped
and rules of investigation and evidence became arcane.
nevermore baby.
so what happened? mob rules and methods became the law of the land
in full view and open air in the form of futures markets and
securities markets in general. the mob's gasoline tax scam ...
Gas-tax Fraud Tied To Mob Families
March 26, 1985|By M. Anthony Lednovich, Staff Writer
The organized theft of more than $290 million in gasoline taxes from New York and Florida was conducted under the protection of the five New York City Mafia families, according to investigators and recent court testimony.

``When there is a dollar to be made, the Mafia are like weeds growing in a manure field. There is not a wall built around each of these families,`` said Special Agent Tom Sullivan, a member of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement`s Operation Tiger Tail team investigating the tax thefts."
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http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1985-03-26/news/8501110652_1_gas-tax-mi...
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there must be more .......
to the story

Thu, 11/07/2013 - 22:50 | 4133670 flacon
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When being detained for a traffic violation, only roll your window down a crack, invoke your miranda rights (Canada has followed suit with the USA where we must speak to remain silent), keep your eyes forward, don't look at the "Peace" Officer and keep your hands in view, and have a dashboard video camera in view. 

DO NOT EXIT YOUR "VEHICLE" even if they "demand" that you do. It is better to have them break your window than to be in their custody because you will likely be sodomized, anally raped and have surgery performed on you against your consent. (YES THIS HAS HAPPENED AND IS ALL OVER THE INTERWEBS). 

 

"Peace" Officers are exteremly violent and dangerous. More dangerous than being on an African Safari with a lion clawing at your window. 

 

PS: Remember that all DEMANDS made by these violent men and women are actually questions. "May I see your driver's license, registration and insurance?". "Would you please exit the vehicle?". "Sir, would you roll down your window?". "Have you had anything to drink today sir?". YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE TO ANSWER. 

 

Fri, 11/08/2013 - 10:38 | 4135082 czardas
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I have deep concerns about police conduct but hyperbole is not the answer.  I have NEVER had a policeman rough me up, try to sodomize or bribe or threaten and have been pulled over a number of times (overdue registration, taillight, "swerving" - I explained and he said "OK", city sticker missing, etc).  Declaring all cops are bad is exactly the same as a cop declaring all citizens as criminals. Their attitude is what one expects with the coarsening of society, the casual acceptance of behavior that once was beyond the pale. Society has changed radically since I came from the USSR 23 years ago.  

Thu, 11/07/2013 - 21:52 | 4133484 shutdown
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Screw this. I'm moving to Uruguay.

Fri, 11/08/2013 - 00:22 | 4133996 SAT 800
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Excellent plan. Spanish is fun to learn; and the feeling you get as soon as you step out of the airport terminal is wonderful; like a whole world of mindless fascist crap has just been off-loaded from your shoulders; that's because it just was. But you can actually feel the freedom.

Thu, 11/07/2013 - 23:31 | 4133858 Carl Popper
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A sane, happy, peaceful country where MJ is legally sold at a buck per doobie?

You would love it.

They are some of the biggest beef eaters in the world. Measures of wealth are deceptive.

Thu, 11/07/2013 - 21:09 | 4133358 justsayin2u
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I'm sure that most cops are regular folks just trying to do a good job and do the right thing.  There are always going to be bad cops too.  What I worry about are the politicians and the cops that suck up to move up - those guys can drive really bad behavior in the police forces by having people harassed.

Fri, 11/08/2013 - 10:55 | 4135167 czardas
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It's a ZH pattern - the instant jump to "they're all bad." Mention illegal conduct by an individual or a group and immediately every single member (cops, latinos, blacks, Asians, liberals, entertainers, teachers, politicians, businessmen, soldiers) are evil and up to no good.   It's how children think.  This inability to discern good from the bad is disturbing but not surprising.  After all, it's exactly how cops act. 

The nature of crime has changed radically so should we expect police not to be affected?  Most come from lower middle class with minimal education, little background diversity, a "job when all else fails" and now consider who they deal with on an hourly basis - pimps, hos, gangs, drunks and routine violence.  It's not the days of issuing a speeding tickets, lecturing kids caught rolling a house or helping old ladies.  I'm not excusing bad behavior (militarization of the police is one of the worst trends in America) but we lose credibility when we blame an entire group. 

Fri, 11/08/2013 - 09:06 | 4134598 economicmorphine
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Is your cave comfortable?  Just wondering...

Thu, 11/07/2013 - 22:54 | 4133713 flacon
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ALL "Peace" Officers (without exception) work for private for-profit corporations and the slogan "To Protect And Serve" means to protect and serve their corporation, ie, NOT YOU! While many cops are "regular folks" there is no such thing as a "good cop". 

 

They ALL serve the ones who they get their pay cheques from, and that is NOT YOU, it is a corporation known as a "CITY" or "MUNICIPALITY" or "STATE" etc. 

Fri, 11/08/2013 - 04:20 | 4134322 MeMadMax
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Right for the most part.

Sheriff's department is the only constitutionally authorized law enforcement entity...

Thu, 11/07/2013 - 23:03 | 4133752 bunzbunzbunz
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Cool story bro.

Thu, 11/07/2013 - 21:07 | 4133348 blindman
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and this ..
"An incompetent attorney can delay a trial for years or months. A competent attorney can delay one even longer.
Evelle J. Younger, California Attorney General, Los Angeles Times, March 3, 1971."

Thu, 11/07/2013 - 21:06 | 4133344 blindman
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and this ..
"We have the heaviest concentration of lawyers on Earth—one for every five-hundred Americans; three times as many as are in England, four times as many as are in West Germany, twenty-one times as many as there are in Japan. We have more litigation, but I am not sure that we have more justice. No resources of talent and training in our own society, even including the medical care, is more wastefully or unfairly distributed than legal skills. Ninety percent of our lawyers serve 10 percent of our people. We are over-lawyered and under-represented.
President Jimmy Carter, Remarks at the 100th Anniversary Luncheon of the Los Angeles County Bar Association, May 4, 1978 (American Presidency Project e-text)."

Fri, 11/08/2013 - 10:57 | 4135178 czardas
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FYI - that was, uh, 35 years ago.  Since then legal aid has exploded (witness state budgets) and many academic groups now serve as adjuncts to defense counsel or work on things like the Innocence Project.  I mean, things change over decades. I don't consider Jimmy Carter a beacon for clarity and truth. 

Thu, 11/07/2013 - 21:09 | 4133342 Kina
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Role of police now for the purpose of protecting the status quo.

 

Police are  not your friends, they have now become your herders on behalf of TPTB.

 

I can see that eventually .. the possesion of anything that puts you outside the full control of TPTB will become illegal.

Thu, 11/07/2013 - 21:00 | 4133321 blindman
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on the other hand....
the first thing is ...
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" When there are too many policemen, there can be no individual liberty, when there are too many lawyers, there can be no justice, and when there are too many soldiers, there can be no peace.
Lin Yutang, Between Tears and Laughter (1943), p. 66."
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http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Lawyers

Thu, 11/07/2013 - 20:58 | 4133313 besnook
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in a coupla years an entire generation of americans will not know anything different than the usa police state. they will accept it without protest and consider old fuckers like me a crazy, cranky kook who should be avoided especially on halloween.

i'd really like the millennials to prove me wrong but the ones i talk to are goose stepping in formation.

Thu, 11/07/2013 - 22:17 | 4133557 HardAssets
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besnook:  "in a coupla years an entire generation of americans will not know anything different than the usa police state. they will accept it without protest and consider old fuckers like me a crazy, cranky kook who should be avoided especially on halloween.

i'd really like the millennials to prove me wrong but the ones i talk to are goose stepping in formation."

I'm afraid you may be right. These kids parents failed them, (and their grandparents failed their parents). Thomas Jefferson feared that after the American revolution, the citizens would focus on just making money & not pay enough attention to preserving their Liberty.

If you ask some of these kids the most basic things about history and the founding (at least stated) principles of America, they don't have a clue. Neither do their parents.  They can tell you about football or the newest 'trendy' t.v. program, but nothing about what being an American should be about.  Sadly, they don't know why any of that would be important to them. Ive tried talking to adults about this and they sit there with a blank look on their faces.  They have no critical thinking skills.  People like this are easily manipulated to parrot what they hear from the controllers who provide them what to believe. This deliberate process of dumbing people down has gone on for at least a century.

Fri, 11/08/2013 - 11:05 | 4135211 czardas
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I am not certain how much of what you said is spoejn by every generation.  It was in my home country and I've heard it ever since I came here in 1990.  We become the next generation and adopt their fears but it's apparent that our education system has not only produced dummies but has ceased teaching subjects like civics, history or cultural facts.  Maybe folks consider such things along with ligterature as subjects no longer needed.  Maybe it's our access to instant knowledge via the web.  Maybe it's the instant news, weather, sports, entertainment, porn, etc.   There's little time for reflection.  I'd bet we have the same percentage of intellectually curious kids that existed fifty years ago.  

Thu, 11/07/2013 - 23:03 | 4133753 walküre
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I don't know who is to blame in regards to how the Millenials will turn out as the divide between opposing world views is passed down to the next generation. I agree that the majority is probably groomed by the system to be a slave to the system. From the cradle to the grave. Their parents too busy being selfish and indulging with whatever the latest fad is. A strong and visible minority however is very much opposed to more government and is sceptical about everything government does for a reason. That group is raising kids to be self aware and learn how to survive instead of passing the kids onto the system to teach them how to be sexual active at age 12 as long as its with protection, safe and clean.

Quite a few Millenials I speak with are angry at the system and think that chasing money sucks. They are able to comprehend how the elite is robbing their future for the short term benefit of a very few. Their minds and hearts are mendable. The churches had this figured out long ago but the churches are part of the establishment. Preaching to be in the world but not part of the world is all fine but there is only one world and Jesus won't come back to fix anything anytime soon. Waiting for the 2nd coming is like waiting for a market correction. Jesus couldn't fight the establishment 2000 years ago, what makes them think he could fight the Fed? Just using their own theology. Giving kids the hope of a better life after death is bullshit. It sets them up for failure in life and accepting the status quo all the while being either delusional or depressed.

Getting the kids early is key. Offering them truth, stone cold facts about life and what will happen if they don't challenge the status quo and the establishment verbally and physically.

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