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Gold -22% YTD - Sentiment As Poor As October 2008 Prior To 2009, 2010 Surge
Today’s AM fix was USD 1,309.00, EUR 975.12 and GBP 814.16 per ounce.
Yesterday’s AM fix was USD 1,316.00, EUR 973.45 and GBP 818.46 per ounce.
Gold fell $10.50 or 0.79% yesterday, closing at $1,306.70/oz. Silver slipped $0.18 or 0.83% closing at $21.60. Platinum dipped $12.69 or 0.9% to $1,449.30/oz, while palladium fell $3.58 or 0.5% to $758.25/oz.
Gold surged 2% in euro terms, from €972/oz to €992/oz, after the shock EU interest rate reduction to 0.25%. Subsequently, aggressive selling came into the market with determined sellers pushing prices back down so that gold ended flat in euro terms after the ECB move to near zero percent interest rates.

Gold in Dollars, 3 Years - January 2008 to January 2011 - (Bloomberg)
The shock move suggests the Eurozone economy and individual European economies are even weaker than thought. Overnight, France had its sovereign credit rating cut to “AA” by rating agency Standard & Poor’s. French banks are some of the weakest in the Eurozone and are very vulnerable to the coming bail-ins.
All eyes will be on the U.S. jobs number later today (13:30 GMT). A poor jobs number should see gold rise on safe haven buying due to concerns about the struggling U.S. economy. A weaker economy will likely lead to a continuation of ultra loose monetary policies.
Ultra loose monetary policies continue in the UK and EU. The Bank of England has decided to keep its key interest rate at a record low of 0.5% and continue its quantitative easing, money printing and bond buying at £375 billion. Currency debasement continues suggesting that the UK recovery is anaemic at best and remains vulnerable.
Another important thing to watch is the Chinese Plenum, the four-day meeting of China's top leaders which gets underway in Beijing on Saturday and is widely expected to be the launch-pad for major economic reforms from the world's second biggest economy.
The decisions of the Third Plenum meeting may have a huge potential impact worldwide and they are expected to unveil some of their biggest economic reforms for 35 years.
Some have speculated that the price of gold could benefit from this weekend's summit in China. There could be the expected announcement that the People’s Bank of China has again dramatically increased their gold reserves. Alternatively, new policies could lead to Chinese people continuing to buy gold in huge volumes for financial insurance, store of wealth purposes.
With the Chinese property bubble set to burst, the bust may lead to even greater demand for physical bullion from the gold loving Chinese.

Gold in Dollars, 6 Years Including 2008 Price Falls - (Bloomberg)
The shock ECB interest rate reduction and move to loosen monetary policies even further could be the spark that gold needs to help prices get momentum to the upside again. It will be gold supportive, particularly in euro terms. Murmurings of negative deposit rates are also gold positive.
The ECB is also considering adopting even more radical monetary policies involving quantitative easing (QE) or the creation of euros in order to buy or monetise government debt as the U.S. is doing with their $85 billion a month bond buying programme. Asked whether the ECB would consider QE, Draghi said a number of options were available before quantitative easing would be considered but did not rule out the possibility.
An even more radical option of negative deposit rates is also being considered. There are suggestions that the ECB is considering charging banks for depositing their reserves with the ECB by imposing a negative deposit rate. Many banks might then pass on this negative rate to depositors meaning that extremely low yielding deposit instruments could become negative and actually cost depositors money.
Gold is down 22%, 26.6% and 30% year to date in dollar, pound and euro terms respectively (See charts).
Technically, gold looks like it is consolidating between $1,200/oz and $1,400/oz in dollar terms, £775/oz and £925/oz in pound terms and EUR 900/oz, and EUR 1,100/oz in euro terms. Gold may have seen its low in all currencies on June 28th (see charts) and this remains the key level of support.

Gold in Pounds, 6 Years - (Bloomberg)
Seasonally, autumn and winter is the strong period for the precious metals due to robust physical demand internationally. This is especially the case in Asia, due to wedding and festival demand and into year end as the Chinese stock up on gold prior to Chinese New Year which this year takes place on January 31st, 2014.
September and November are two of gold’s strongest months in the last 38 years (since 1975) and given the bullish fundamentals, any further weakness is likely to be short term. Interestingly, October is one of gold’s weakest months and weakness in October is often followed by gains in November, December and January making early November a good time to buy gold.
Gold is down 22% year to date and looks set for the first annual decline since 2000. The last time that gold suffered such a poor year to date performance was in 2008. At the start of November 2008, gold was trading down 14.6% for the year.
Sentiment was very poor with banks and analysts saying that the gold bubble had burst and gold was going to fall more. Some said that gold below $500/oz was on the cards. Bearish sentiment was at extreme levels and all notions of fundamental value were thrown out the window as the financial crisis morphed into a global economic crisis.
Stock, commodity and many currency markets internationally were in meltdown on panic selling.
Many announced that gold was no longer a safe haven. Gold and silver’s price fell 4.3% and 8% on October 24th, 2008, on massive deleveraging and wholesale panic selling in all financial markets.
This was despite still very strong demand, shortages and increasing tightness in the physical market. The tightness was spreading from the small coin and bar market up to the larger bar market and premiums on larger bars such as 5 kilo bars and 100 oz bars were also increasing. Gold lease rates remained very high on increasing concern about counterparty risk in the bullion banks.
However that, the point of maximum pain, was actually a great buying opportunity and those who took our advice, diversified and bought on gold’s extremely poor sentiment and weakness, did extremely well in the coming weeks and months.
Gold bottomed on November 12th, 2008 at $712.30/oz. By the end of November it had risen 12.4% and in December it rose another 7.8%. It thus, reversed the losses for the year and finished 2008 up 5.7% and then went on to see gains of 23.4% in 2009 and 27.1% in 2010.
By early March 2010, gold had reached over $1,215/oz for a gain of 70.7% from the lows on November 12, 2008.
The wisdom of buying when there is extreme doubt and pessimism had been seen again. Those who held their nerve and bought low did very well and will continue to do well.
Those who use today’s lows to gradually accumulate physical bullion coins and bars for delivery or in allocated gold accounts will also be rewarded in the coming months. The fundamentals of gold have not changed and the medium term market drivers of gold remain positive.
Medium Term Market Drivers Of Gold
- Ultra Loose Monetary Policies To Continue > Yellen as New Fed Chair
- Global Debt Crisis > Eurozone & U.S, UK and Japan
- Geopolitical Risk in the Middle East and Globally
- Chinese and Indian Gold Demand
- Futures, GOFO and Gold Backwardation
Ultra loose monetary policies are set to continue for the foreseeable future which is highly supportive of gold and should lead to real record highs, inflation adjusted, over $2,400/oz in the coming years.

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Especially at this point in time, any article that doesn't acknowledge the whole gold price suppression scheme by the central banks is worthless.
Everybody thinks that the TBTF banks are shorting paper gold.
It is China shorting paper and buying physical cheap! ;-)
But I loved this part: "With the Chinese property bubble set to burst, the bust may lead to even greater demand for physical bullion from the gold loving Chinese."
Seems like there might be some selling pressure in a housing crash as people liquidate to meet obligations.
It's not only China doing it that way - and it makes a lot of sense to do so IMHO.
Gold Main drivers:
Comex Registered Gold Falls To New Low at 640,552 Ounces - Claims Per Ounce Still Around High of 59
Jesse reports another New Low at COMEX. With this rate of outflow COMEX will be empty very soon - can we assume that now higher Gold prices will come to save it? http://sufiy.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/comex-registered-gold-falls-to-new-low.html#
James Rickards - Gold, US Dollar And Future of Money 2.0 GLD, MUX, TNR.v, SLV, GDX
We would like to share the great insights into the monetary system its limits and Gold from the author of "Currency Wars".http://sufiy.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/james-rickards-gold-us-dollar-and.html#
I am heavily in PMs in one account and I like Jim Sinclair's advice on this debacle best:
1. Have bullion;
2. No margin;
3. Do nothing.
It gives me the assfire to see this shit every morning but I know in 3-5 years I am going to see 10x in the positions I hold.
So it's a good idea to have cash too for the period inbetween. The motherfuckers may monkey-hammer the PMs longer than we think possible.
My rent is due today. I don't have all of it. I was going to sell a few Silver Eagles today, to raise the money. Now, because of today's lastest price smash-down, the coin shop guy will give me many fewer dollars for my silver.
But people keep telling me "the paper price doesn't matter." It matters to the coin shop guy. It matters to my slumlord if I can't pay my rent. My rent is due today, not in three to five years. I've already been forced to sell 1,100 Troy ounces of silver, at a HUGE, catastrophic loss, this year, just to pay the bills.
I'm sorry, I was a true believer once, but my faith in silver is shot. I'd have been far better off to have just hoarded cash. I don't believe cash lost half of its purchasing power in the last two and a half years. I'd have done almost as well to have hoarded aluminum cans or pull-tabs.
the paper price DOESN'T MATTER for the multiyear investor.
I sold some silver maples due to having an unexpected dental expenses.
I still think it's the right time to buy & my only mistake was not having enough cash on hand for up-front needs.
It's always a guessing game. I would have had more cash had I not also got some AGQ calls. It's my choice & part of the risk is needing cash while not having it in hand. No one else made me make that choice.
In the end I imagine the payoff from the bullion (barter) and from the AGQ calls (cash, much more than I put in) will be worth the inconvenience for now.
Before long I believe cash will lose half its value in a single DAY and that will be the day I'll be very thankful for having my bullion. There will be NO WARNING of this event beyond what we've already seen. Complacency then DISASTER.
At that time you're either ready or you're not.
Yep, I'm down over 25%, a big chunk, I also would have been better off holding cash.
It doesn't matter if the demand for physical is strong as long as they can manipulate the price down with leveraged paper. And some of us are a bit too old to wait 5-10 years for the bull market to resume.
If you're intending to sell bullion for paper it shouldn't matter.
If you're intending to trade paper for gain from the price action of silver, I can understand the complaint but then again, didn't you know paper was manipulated in the first place?
You'll probably see silver to 100/oz within 12 to 18 months, is that too long for you? For those who aren't waiting to BARTER bullion for goods & essential services... perhaps you're investing in the wrong asset. That could happen in 5 years or 15. Who knows. A time frame limited to a maximum of 5 years is not a good fit for investing in precious metals at this time.
I'll buy at 3% above actual price. Interested?
I've seen this post before... verbatim.
We are working our way through an extremely bad phase in history. In terms of assets I don't think there is much to have faith in.
Look the position you are in downright sucks, but I have to ask what you were doing when you bought the silver? Did you buy it thinking that it would go up in price and then you could make it large selling it again? If so, then YOU HAVE THE WRONG IDEA!
Au/Ag are hedges. They are the things you put away, kinda hoping you won't have to touch them. You ignore the paper price and you put away as much as you can afford given your personal circumstances every month. You are getting ready for when the house of cards finally collapses. You are not looking for profit, you are looking at a safety net for when everything goes 1920s German and the paper currency that you have doesn't buy you what you need.
You don't put everything in PMs, because that would be stupid as you still have to live in the world as it is now. You put in what you can afford, when you can afford it, leaving enough to deal with everything that the world is going to throw at you between now and collapse day.
I wasn't so much looking to gain as to avoid loss. I lost big anyway though. Like I said, physical cash would have served me far better.
same can be said of all fiat-for-fiat-gains. You wanted paper, stick to paper. For everything. Don't waste your time on non-paper assets, you clearly aren't interested & it doesn't fit your needs.
So let's take a look at gold monthly going back going back to 1995
http://bullandbearmash.com/chart/spot-gold-monthly-remains-wave-4-upside...
You can compare anything to anything - so let's consider October 2008 - with several years of upside behind it.
Now look at today - with over 2 years of downside behind it.
We are in a short term upside corrective pattern - followed by another leg down. This will unfold in the months to come.
nope. We're in a short-term leg down (2 years is short term) on a 25-year rise probably, 12 of which we've endured so far.
The Bank of England has decided to keep its key interest rate at a record low of 0.5% and continue its quantitative easing, money printing and bond buying at £375 billion.
£375 billion what? per month? per year? in total? please clarify.
I think I want to see one thing get clear. If you are going to buy gold and are looking at the price of it in FIAT-Paper don't buy it. It will get up an down like any commodity. If times come that the price for it in Fiat-Paper starts cantering all hell will break loose. There was a time an ounce of gold cost you 4 200 000 000 000 000 RM. So what do you think you could buy for one Reichsmark? Gold is money everything else is just credit. And AFAIKT it seems we have way to less money for all the credits out there. But well you are not surprised to read that from me, or are you?
A poor jobs number should see gold rise.....
Yeah, right. See where all those fancy charts got ya. Managed markets and all that....
and the US mint halted ASE proof...
http://zysites.com/silververitas/