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“It is no coincidence that the century of total war coincided with the century of central banking.” --Ron Paul 

 

THE MODERN WAR GOD

 

To those who served honourably: Happy Veteran's Day 2013

WB7

 

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Tue, 11/12/2013 - 17:29 | 4147496 Buffalo Bones
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An incredible song illustrating the myths and romantic views we have of things not even 100 years passed.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lJqX0zC00gU&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DlJqX...

It has always sounded so hollow to me to extend my gratitude through the simple saying "happy Veterans Day".

To any and all who have served, I truly wish the best for you and your families.

Tue, 11/12/2013 - 05:37 | 4145242 ShakaZulu
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As a vet I can honestly say that my mind was opened up by serving in the military.  Opened up to the fact as to just how evil the world is that we live in and are a part of.  All I had to do was get through.  God helped me do that.

Tue, 11/12/2013 - 12:15 | 4146129 Stud Duck
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Amen, bro!

Tue, 11/12/2013 - 05:03 | 4145225 Nobody For President
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Thank you WB.

Tue, 11/12/2013 - 01:32 | 4145015 tritumi
Tue, 11/12/2013 - 01:18 | 4144983 WTFUD
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Happy Edward Snowden Day Every Day!

Mon, 11/11/2013 - 23:15 | 4144695 scraping_by
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Me. Selective Service lottery number 243, Vietnam.

My father, USS Wasp, Korean War. His oldest brother, US Army, Korean War. His other brother, USS Kidd, Korean War. My uncle, his brother in law, US Army, Korean War, Bronze Star among others.

And on a summer's evening in 1972, the four of them sat on the front porch discussing the practicalities of sending me to Canada.

It never came to that, but they were serious.

The world changed. Our rhetoric needs to change with it.

 

Tue, 11/12/2013 - 01:59 | 4145051 williambanzai7
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Like you, I was lucky not to have to go. I had a high number as well.

And I never turn my nose up to those who wound up going even if they did not want to go. 

I do turn my nose up to the entltled assholes who avoid going by means of influence and then later find it so easy to send others off into the meat grinder.

The names Bush and Cheney come first to mind. But there are many many others.

Tue, 11/12/2013 - 06:14 | 4145275 artless
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Clinton, Emmanuel, Obama, ...

They come to mind as well. Not to give Shrub or Dick a pass.

But I do not look at the rest any differently just cause they spen time as gov't killers before being the ones deciding to send other people's kids ti die for nothing.

So that list is a bit longer. I think one could start with Roosevelt. And I mean Teddy seeing it was his bullshit that sowed the seeds for the eventual mess in the Pacific. Wilson, FDR, Truman, Kennedy, LBJ, Nixon, Reagan (ironically probably did the least of all) Bush I, Clinton, Bush, Obama.

Interesting how one name doesn't make the list. Eisenhower. True he did his dirty work much like Reagan-behind the scenes and with minimal particpation by American boys and girls. Not that it's that much better in the long run.

 

Mon, 11/11/2013 - 22:57 | 4144513 williambanzai7
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If I know you and I know you are a vet and I see you on veterans day, I will quietly say: Happy Veteran's Day and move on.

What I don't say is congratulations there big guy or gal, here have a big cigar, can I buy you a round of drinks, good job, how many did you kill...yadda fucking yadda.

Happy Veteran's Day Mom and Dad...and thank you for being staunchly Anti-War!

 

 

And FY Ben Bernanke...

Tue, 11/12/2013 - 00:05 | 4144835 Manipuflation
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William, the "How many did you kill?" question nails the point.  And that is a hard thing to say. 

Tue, 11/12/2013 - 02:34 | 4145084 Andre
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That is one question I learned very long ago you never ask a combat vet. Reminding them of the battles they fought also reminds them of the friends they lost.

Another to avoid is "What's it like?" Combat is something you experience to understand, if you survive. Words are totally inadequate.

Thank them quietly, Let them talk if they want to, and listen - really listen. You might learn something, if you don't already know.

Let them know you care, even if only from the distance.

Tue, 11/12/2013 - 03:10 | 4145145 williambanzai7
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Kind of like asking a total stranger: how was your divorce? ;-)

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 22:12 | 4152692 Andre
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lol - pretty close.

I've known a fair few vets, from WW 2, Korea, Vietnam, and later. You learn pretty quick.

Tue, 11/12/2013 - 00:16 | 4144859 williambanzai7
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That is an appropriate questionfor someone who is a braggart about his or her time served. There are such people.

Thankfully, I don't know any personally. 

Tue, 11/12/2013 - 00:51 | 4144939 Manipuflation
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I do not think we will get a lot greens for holding that mutual opinion William.  It's a touchy issue to say the least.  Those that would hate us, who are supposed to be on "our side", might not like our interpretation of freedom as much as we do not like their interpretration of such.  Perhaps I should not speak for you William and I will not here. 

 

I will say this and speak on my own.  All of you veterans out there....what were you protecting?  Did you save me?  No.  I am more fucked now than can be imagined because I can not SELL a fucking nice piece of property at almost ANY price.  Who sent your friends to die? Me?  No, your government did.  What was it again that you were all going to die for again?  You are all either broke or broken.  Why so?

Tue, 11/12/2013 - 01:38 | 4145029 Stud Duck
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waaaaaaaaa, waaaaaa, waaaaaaaaaaaa, So you think you are fucked eh? Try getting your dumb little ass drafted then thrown into the meat grinder in 1969 up on the DMZ. 

Your little whinning ass would not of lasted 3 hrs (especially after dark)  up there pal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKFEfR_Q16I

To all you whinning fucks, "WE ALL WENT DOWN TOGETHER" we did not have any great wish to prevent commies taking over, just survival!

To those that died, sorry boys, you fucked up and did not go to Canada!

I just lucked out and made it home! Never to inflict violence on another human again, unless they needed it!

 

 

Tue, 11/12/2013 - 08:31 | 4145423 Randoom Thought
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The delusion that we have fighting for anything grand or noble is long gone. Yes, the elitist media has done a  bang-up job at propagandizing being in the military as service or duty or something glorious and honorable. And yes, there is something to be said to testing onesself against others, developing discipline or growing up ... but not for the reason or in the way THEY force you.

Some joined because they bought the B/S. Some joined because they had little other choice (because in times when the government wants war they take away others choices for the "young and dumb")

Those who got drafted essentially had the government tell them "WE OWN YOU". You do not own you. We are the biggest and baddest gang and we can take you and force you to do anything we want. YOU HAVE NO CHOICE. There is somthing very unsettling about that and not having walked in the shoes of those who were kidnapped by a gang and sent to another country to try to kill the people who did nothing wrong except decide to live there, I do not have the right to comment how it feels. I do not know. But I have to think that one must go through a rationalization process to cope..

And in the background the Gnomes of Zurich and their minions, the broken psychopaths who administer the world cackled with glee. They really did not seem to care who won the war, only that people kept fighting each other and that they profited though it ... maintaining the power and the ultimate delusion that people needed them.

Thank you veterans for putting up with what THEY made you go through. Hopefully some day we can make it so that no one has to ever go through what you did again... even though, based on what I have seen from my friends and relatives, the experience does give you some positives in the very tight bonds it forms with those who you depended on around you. But even with that positive it does not make it right. It still means the people are good and the government that kidnapped you and forced you to kill is run by evil psychopaths.

Now, my concern is that the big, bad gang in charge is creating a battlefield US... where once again they are tuning people against people and making one group, those they fund, supply and propagandize to believe (rationalize) that they are superior and the people who are their sisters, brothers and neighbors have somehow turned into THEIR enemy, and who have lesser rights to live and be free. It is insanity. We should not be turning against each other. We should be working with each other, not to fight, but to join in finding a solution together ... eliminating the boundaries that separate us.

Tue, 11/12/2013 - 03:49 | 4145182 Manipuflation
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If you want a piece of me Stud Duck, then I am I right here in St. Cloud MN.  I am not afraid of some marine who is now sorry.  You had better come packing heavy sir.  I really have no time to listen to your statist bullshit.  I could be your friend though.  That is up to you.

Mon, 11/11/2013 - 22:25 | 4144482 Lordflin
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I should resist posting here after a long day... but I find the subject... provocative, to say the least...

While I agree this nation makes poor use of its military... immoral use... it is in the nature of men to fight. Men, by their nature, are expendable. No one truly achieves manhood without this understanding. Men fight to preserve their families as well as their communities.

When boys are raised to avoid conflict they grow into frightened men. I have never met a man who, never having fought as a boy, did not lack confidence. Boys first must learn that they can protect themselves so that later they can, and in most cases will, extend that protection to others. On the other hand, boys who have been kept out of conflict as children often mature into dangerous, frightened men... this fear is personified in many ways... dominance in the work place, predatory attitudes towards women, inability to handle responsibility, and so on.

Men who have no military experience also appear to be lacking something... and it seems they spend a lifetime compensating... They pose themselves as enlightened, intellectually superior beings when in fact they are simply unwilling to make the sacrifice of both blood and treasure... As such, many are simply cowards.

It is exactly these kinds of men that have risen to prominence throughout society... In the process of emasculating culture, and thus assuring their own safety, they have crawled out from under the rocks into the light of day. They are arrogant, self-ordained ministers of a new truth that, while emasculating men, undermines women as well so that society slips steadily into decadence all they while they rape, plunder and pillage.

It is for this reason I discouraged my son... who, as I have mentioned was killed last year in an accident... from joining the military even though he had been training for three years with the intention of joining the SEALS. Because he was a moral man, and despite his desire to serve his fellow man (which he very much had considered military service to be) he had given up his ambition by the time he had died. We had even begun to discuss alternatives in the event he was drafted.

On the other hand, the choice many men have made regarding military service, or rather the lack of military service, while made in the guise of morality, has in fact been made as a result an emasculated cowardice, or a base and self-serving character.

It is because we have as a world culture produce an abundance of such men, that the vermin have seen their way into the open. For without men of good character, schooled in conflict, and willing to make the ultimate sacrifice, freedom is lost, and with it hope.

Tue, 11/12/2013 - 07:46 | 4145350 artless
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I commend you trying to dissuade your son from the military. I also am truly sorry for your loss.

I do have a few issues with a couple points in the post.

I think I understand the sentiment of

"it is in the nature of men to fight. Men, by their nature, are expendable. No one truly achieves manhood without this understanding. Men fight to preserve their families as well as their communities."

but perhaps fight is not the best word. More like "women and children first"? There are times when a man must simply be a man. I do not know id there is an objective definition of what that is but I think we all know it when we see it.

"I have never met a man who, never having fought as a boy, did not lack confidence."

You have not met me or many others like me. I did not fight as a boy. I was not however shielded from conflict. I was bullied as an adolescent. And not in the bullshit modern defnition of the term. I took physical abuse and defended myself but never instigated violence on anyone. When it became evident that I would not back down and that the attempts to break me had no effect, it ended. The main difference was in how I was raised. I was never taught to seek acceptance from others or to determine my self worth through the eyes of others. Too many people look for approval from the tribe and that the source of their self image and worth. If we raised individuals capable of thinking for themselves we'd ne a bit better off. Most of our socialization however is in oppostion ot this.

What you write about fear, conflict avoidance, and the liek is spot on and it has impact of girls as well it just shows itself in different ways.

I have no military experinece and would never work for that corporation. Perhaps I overcompensate through sport when my brain writes checks my legs can't cash during some bike race but other than that I do not pretend to be either morally or intellectually superior to anyone. That again goes back to the idea of comparing yourself to others. It is of no impotance to me if I am smarter, stronger, weaker, more or less righteous than anyone else. And to actually act on any of these premiises would mean I thought I had the right to have power over another man which I do not.

On the other hand if my country, state, city, house, home, family were ever to actually be under threat of violence I would defend them all to best of my ability with violence if needed. Barring some long, far-fetched, Red Dawn hollywood scenario, this is nover going to happen, Never has, never will. We have these giant oceans that get in the way. And I'm thinking that Mexico and Canada or a tad unmotivated to come piling over the border like some Roman Era barbarian horde. So I like to think I am far from a coward. I am just unwilling to sacrifice much for the whims or politicians, bankers, religious leaders, and corrupt businessmen the like of which are wholly responsible for every needless war ever.

"It is exactly these kinds of men that have risen to prominence throughout society... In the process of emasculating culture, and thus assuring their own safety, they have crawled out from under the rocks into the light of day. They are arrogant, self-ordained ministers of a new truth that, while emasculating men, undermines women as well so that society slips steadily into decadence all they while they rape, plunder and pillage."

DITTO. I cannot agree more wholeheartedly. But we must recognize the ALL for who they are. That includes some take downs of some commonly accepted great men. FDR, Churchill, Truman, Wildon, Teddy Roosevelt, LINCOLN, LBJ, Bushes, Obama, Clintons, Kennedy, Nixon, etc. And that's just the presidential types. There are dozens in industry, media, academia who need to be outed for who and what the really are.

I disagree with the blanket statement regarding those that choose to avoid miltary service. Indeed I see the choice TO serve in many modern cases to be a search for validation, meaning, or purpose. This I find sad.

For without men of character, schooled in REASON & RATIONAL THOUGHT, with a full understanding of conflict and with the tools with which to deal with it, unwilling to ever live on their knees, freedom LIBERTY is lost.

There corrected that for ya.

I personally will always be free. And hope, like faith is just an emotional tool with the capacity to be used by the "vermin" of which you write.

 

Tue, 11/12/2013 - 06:42 | 4145291 SnatchnGrab
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Lordflin, you say your son was killed last year (RIP and my condolences), yet you were worried he would be drafted? The draft was done away with in what 1973?

 

And believe me, as one currently serving (middle management (MAJ), folks IN the military want a draft even less than parents or folks OUT of the military. 

 

Tue, 11/12/2013 - 12:06 | 4146096 Lordflin
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I suspect that the draft is coming... For the past several years there have been continual advertisements for young men to register... Here where I live, a young man cannot obtain a driver's license without registering for the draft....

As to the feeling among military against a draft, that does not surprise me... but it is not their decision... aside from the fact that the officer ranks in the military are being purged, especially at the highest levels... what kinds of men are being put in their place?

Something big is coming... They tried to start it in Syria... and may still. This currency war will turn hot and warm bodies will be needed, or at least there appear to be those who think so. Given the weapons with which it will be fought it may be over quick...

Tue, 11/12/2013 - 11:49 | 4146036 Lordflin
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I suspect that the draft is coming... For the past several years there have been continual advertisements for young men to register... Here where I live, a young man cannot obtain a driver's license without registering for the draft....

Tue, 11/12/2013 - 00:17 | 4144865 janus
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lordflin,

you get an amen.

glad you posted it.

keep Hope alive.

you are a true 'progressive' in a retrograde world.

janus

Mon, 11/11/2013 - 22:57 | 4144626 williambanzai7
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I believe I offered my sincere condolences to you on another occasion.

Tonight I offer them again.

Let us not forget that there are many still living, who were conscripted by the war machine.

Today, we don't have a draft, we have a multi-media flag waving propaganda juggernaut coupled with economic coercion aimed squarely at the bottom of the human pyramid. 

We came very close to a major conflagration this year, and dodged Obozo's Syrian bullet. We have that to be thankful for. And we can all pat ourselves on the back for being vociferously opposed when the question was on the table.

Mon, 11/11/2013 - 23:34 | 4144742 Lordflin
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Indeed, we came very close... and will no doubt get closer. I suspect Syria to be the match that will light the world on fire.

What anyone hopes to gain from it baffles me endlessly...

Don't get me wrong... I understand the issues... the threat to Russia's natural gas monopoly... the Sunni/Shia conflict, etc...

Still baffles me...

Mon, 11/11/2013 - 22:34 | 4144552 booboo
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I am truely sorry for the loss of your son, I cannot imagine the sadness you must feel.

Hitler served in the German army in WW1, Pol Pot served with the displaced Viet Cong in Cambodia, both were later responsible for millions of civilian deaths either directly or indirectly. Jeffery Dhalmer routinly ate people and was a military vet. I'm not making the same connection as you for some reason.

Mon, 11/11/2013 - 22:43 | 4144581 Lordflin
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Societies that have decayed into barbarism produce militaries that attract exactly those kinds of men, and no blanket statement can be made regarding all beings in any given setting...

It is for that reason, that such evil men exist, and others that societies require, as I have suggested, men capable of taking a moral stand, regardless of personal consequence... and who have the ability to face men of low character and overcome them.

 

Tue, 11/12/2013 - 00:24 | 4144881 Dr. Bonzo
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My miliary superiors were uniformly mediocre. None exhibited what I would call "martial values"; they were nearly all bureaucrats down to the last one. Most in the military are simply promoted because they stayed on. So they rise to the way a fungus grows, by simply existing. They learn the ropes of the bureaucracy and become exceedingly skilled in the ins-and-outs of the bureaucratic quagmire. Most of the idealists, the kind of guys you'd envision you'd want to have in your military, usually don't but last one or two contracts. Most exit after their first contract after witnessing the scale of fraud, waste and abuse that constitutes the modern military. Most guys just sign up for the skills training, the belief they'll get some money out of it for college (they won't), maybe a bit of travel. A lot of guys are from rural small towns where there just isn't squat to make a living, so the military offers an out that way.

Equating a modern soldier to a "warrior" is a mistake we all make, in and out of the service. It's part and parcel of the Madison Avenue job that's been done on our perceptions of the military, especially since the First Gulf War when the "Support the Troops" thing kicked into high gear.

Being a warrior is a state of mind. You don't need a weapon or a uniform or a monthly LES statement or combat patch to prove you understand martial virtue. And a lot of times men, or women, with all of those things are just button pushing bureaucrats playing the part and reaping the social approval for acting as if.

I saw real warriors during the Seattle WTO way back in '99, 20-something kids sitting in the street blocking the WTO delegates from getting to their meetings. Facing down gun-toting cops, rubber bullets, tactical batons, tear gas, beatings, just sitting there and taking it for what they believed in. Long hair hippies my ass. Those kids were the real warriors.

Tue, 11/12/2013 - 03:08 | 4145141 janus
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i upped you cause i liked the style and i agreed with everything you said...but my experience was totally different.  motivated, dedicated, disiplined and expert is just about all i dealt with directly.  i actually respected rank because it was, at least in my little world, earned. 

but, in all fairness, we would occasionally interact with other 'departments' and other branches...and, well, i know what you're saying.  enlisted navy at norfolk come to mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFELrx6oQ8Q

eight weeks KP,

janus

Tue, 11/12/2013 - 00:46 | 4144930 Blood Spattered...
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Very profound post, thanks for taking the time to write.

Oh, and happy armistice day ;)

Mon, 11/11/2013 - 23:30 | 4144739 booboo
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Show me a state in perpetual conflict and I will show you a state of fascism.

Fascist NEED war for cover. Moral men can just as well say I am not fighting for a immoral cause brought on by tyrants that cannot respect the human rights of their own citizens. Weak minded children schooled in government education facilities taught only to obey and not to critically think? is this The Measure of Courage?  I make no blanket statements other then to say that we are a nation at perpetual war, war on drugs, war on poverty, war on obesity, war on cancer, war on terrorism and each one of these is designed to elicit the maximum amount of emotion with the maximun amount of ever growing wealth skimming wrapped in a flag, deep fried and labeled "Made In America and if you don't like it you must be some goddamn commie dope smokin faggot or sumfin"

Contraire mon frère, at 55 and now wiser I used to be a rocked ribbed flag waving republican, meh! my son has convinced me to read/listen to Hans Hermann Hoppe and identify myself an american anarchist who flies the flag in his yard.

Mon, 11/11/2013 - 22:26 | 4144525 WillyGroper
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Sorry for your loss.

Mon, 11/11/2013 - 22:38 | 4144564 wisehiney
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Our loss.

Mon, 11/11/2013 - 22:01 | 4144425 I Write Code
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That's a melon-twisting Puck cover, WB!  Including the QR code ...

I don't particularly agree with it, but wtf, at least it captures the weirdness.

Mon, 11/11/2013 - 22:26 | 4144524 michael_engineer
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I see you "write code".  So do I, and it's free. 

On iPad it's called iCanMorph3

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/icanmorph3/id736763181?mt=8&ign-mpt=uo%3...

 On iPhone it's called iCanMorph2

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/icanmorph2/id736512904?mt=8&ign-mpt=uo%3D4

Mon, 11/11/2013 - 21:15 | 4144252 booboo
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I wasn't at Waco Texas standing on the road drinking coffee in cammo cutoffs and bitching about the military boot stomping all over my spit polished Nikes if that's what you mean.

Mon, 11/11/2013 - 22:00 | 4144416 janus
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that was actually pretty fuckin funny...but it would'a helped had you posted it in response to 'mal...' instead of making it a new thread.

in comedy, context is everything...suprised you didn't know that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MF-Nlvvy_NA

i think you should be okay here/

they (ZHealots) have a thin candy shell,

janus

 

Mon, 11/11/2013 - 20:07 | 4144089 booboo
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I treat active duty soldiers and vets the same as I would anyone else, but they are starting to make it difficult, some stop just short of self congratulations as returning "hero's". Ricans are especially in your face about their time in the military and it seems that they are all on some sort of disability. It may be because they feel like they were used (yes......you were used, lets confirm that) and no, you did not save my life by putting a bullet in a skinny or a sabot round into a mud building in Bumfuckistan or root out the "bad guys" in Fallujah. I would imagne a group of americans may just make a stand in Birmingham Alabama if the U.S. was invaded and try to kill as many invaders as possible...bad guys hey? Get the fuck off their lawn and you might not get shot. You want some fucking hero status? Get the fuck down to Arizona and stop some fucking real invaders for once.

Lets get something straight, you are there to create more debt, keep the ponzi machine running a bit longer, extending the timeline of the greatest wealth transfer in the history of mankind, thats all. When a real shooting war starts and they are crawling up Cocoa Beach with a rifle let me know but I am afraid that is all a ruse cause they took the country over from within while you were overseas getting the clap. Obama and his predecessors were shooting America in the back as your were charging up Porkchop Hill.

Mon, 11/11/2013 - 20:27 | 4144129 Manipuflation
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Yes, and that was the point of my post.  Let's get something else straight:  Where were you 15 years ago? 

Mon, 11/11/2013 - 19:45 | 4144042 sodbuster
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My cousin served in the Marine Corps in Nam. Went thru a lot of bad shit and was decorated for bravery. He told me before he passed away, if there were another war like that, he would tell his son to go to Canada before he was put thru that.

Mon, 11/11/2013 - 20:09 | 4144030 Radical Marijuana
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http://www.artofwarsuntzu.com/Art of War PDF.pdf

Sun Tzu's Art of War:

"All warfare is based on deception.

In war, practice dissimulation, and you will succeed."

Those are fundamental social facts,
about the structure of real societies,
since states were mainly created by
processes of warfare between them!

That is the central paradox in politics.

Attempting to face that problem is but
only a fringe of the fringe of the fringe,
in the standard critical thinking I know
about being now presented to the public.

I find almost everyone who promotes
"critical thinking" about the banksters,
& many other related social problems,
tend to be reactionary revolutionaries.

By and large, IF you could ask mainstream politicians
what their death control policies were, they "should"
be able to answer with a coherent human ecology.

However,

their political economy is all based on huge lies,
while human ecology is barely even mentioned!

They run their real systems totally through insane bullshit, which nevertheless operates their real systems of robberies, but in ways that seem thoroughly bizarre to critical thought. The amazing thing about our more and more psychotic society is that it is quite enabled to not do critical thinking about itself. Our civilization was made up of fragments of past religions, coexisting with the state religion in the money system.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erZ2YidTZp4

The Art of War

Sun Tsu

An hour and a half long documentary ...

Yet another sensationalized for TV type show,
but nevertheless basically interesting material.

It splices together the history of Sun Tzu,
discussing the battles that he fought, and
then reviews things that he wrote down,
in context of American military history
in Viet Nam war, and D-Day invasion,
and American civil war, as examples.

“Wars cost much silver,” wrote Sun Tzu.

A lack of money kept a lot of nations
out of a lot of trouble over the years!

Not any more.

Not since banksters can fund any and all wars via fiat.

"War is a racket. It always has been."

-- Smedley Butler

For centuries, "war was the harvest of the banksters."

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2012-10-21/real-reason-america-drif...

http://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,5753,-21510,00.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfEBupAeo4

All Wars Are Bankers' Wars

That video is about three quarters of an hour long. That was another example of all the correct cliches regarding the actual money/murder systems, throughout most of this video, followed by the tail end of typical impossible ideals returning to negate what all the previous passages of that video demonstrating was the actual history. Nothing new ... merely reviews the hidden history of money systems controlling the murder systems, since the money system was the one that benefits.

After more than a Century of the exponentially growing triumph of the best organized global gang of criminals, the international banksters, taking back control of the USA, the situation Americans are in now appears already terminally deranged. By and large, the only "solutions" that I ever encounter are either the mainstream morons advocating even more of the same, or reactionary revolutionaries, advocating their versions of even more of the same old-fashioned religions or ideologies.

Therefore, I believe that we will go through the runaway triumph of too much fraudulence, continuing to be backed up with more force, for as far as that can possibly go. The evolution of better dynamic equilibria between the various organized crime gangs that are "controlling" the world is not apparent on the current horizon of history, but rather, still out of sight, around the curvature of the exponential growth, beyond where we can currently see. The sublimely paradoxical nature of the problem of negotiating better death controls inside a system of runaway triumphant deceits, backed by technological powers many orders of magnitude bigger than anything previously known in human history, seems to barely be appreciated by anyone. Certainly, I have never seen any popular mainstream, nor alternative, figureheads address that paradox forthrightly.

Literally hundreds of Zero Hedge articles keep throwing one more pebble onto the mountain of evidence that the American and global systems are fundamentally the runaway triumph of frauds, which cannot be fixed by anything within their frame of reference, nor fixed by anything within the frame of reference of any old-fashioned religions nor ideologies. My view is that we should stop using false fundamental dichotomies to understand these problems, that debt slavery is backed by wars based on deceits, and especially stop using the related impossible ideals to base the notions of "solutions" upon.

Governments were the best organized criminals, who were controlled by the best organized covert criminal gangs. There are no genuine solutions outside of those deeper dilemmas! The only genuine solutions would be more regular death control systems, to maintain more regular debt control systems. However, the current runaway debt insanities appear surely to drive runaway death insanities. The only genuine solutions to the current problems of triumphant organized crime taking over governments would be better organized crime taking over governments. Americans now have a front row seat to watch the rise and fall of the global systems of force backed frauds that they became the "leaders" of ... Theoretically, they should accept that, and work towards becoming "leaders" of the new systems, which must be the same basic purposes, achieved through radically different changes in the paradigms regarding the understanding and the means to do that. However, I have yet to see any videos or articles that continue being consistent with their analysis when they turn to their "solutions." For now, we can only watch as the established systems continue to double down on their force backed frauds, while the currently popular, controlled opposition proposes various political miracles, based on impossible ideals, as the ways to fix those runaway social insanities ...

Mon, 11/11/2013 - 20:59 | 4144202 janus
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everything you've said is true.

it is also true that the organizing principal undergirding ANY society is warfare...or, more properly understood as 'security'.  

now, times being what they are, citizens of all the various societies the world over have rightly recognized banking as the pervasive enemy (this is well underway)...and so now we prepare to mobilze against them.

first we break the faith in fiat (they're doing it for us.  as napoleon said, never interrupt your enemy in his error)...faith is everything -- EVERYTHING.  and then, well, sad to say, they and all who stand with them fall by the blade.  live by the sword, die by the same...selah.  i'd prefer to just jail them...but if i know human beings (and i think i do), they will not be satified with confinment...there will be an ubiquitious blood lust to sate the suffering they everywhere create. the only way to fully extinguish piqued indignation is with blood -- gushers of the stuff.  it is the only currency with which vengence is paid.  fruitless standing in their way.

viddie well, brothers...viddie well!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuohJDyYnlE

but, does the lepoard change its spots?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa12tvOTQx8

usually not...something always re-emerges...so to speak.  something like a phoenix; but not quite that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnSx7q89y1g

this all has to fall; but i hold fast to a fear of what could follow.

there is a monster lurking deep in the bowels of all men; if you think you're the exception, you are most certainly the rule.

'so you're keen on music, are you?'

YESSSSS!,

janus

Mon, 11/11/2013 - 22:13 | 4144476 Manipuflation
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Hi Janus,

I've seen you around before and read some of your posts and I can't find any fault with them other than I do not need that much you tube.  You can write well enough on your own while being a bit disjointed.  You asked for something for regarding Christmas and I might just have what you need.  I really do not think it matters whether or not you are giving the gift or receiving the gift but what do I know?

http://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcIBViewItem.asp?ID=553

 

I would be remiss.  Best of luck in your travels.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljIQo1OHkTI

Tue, 11/12/2013 - 00:11 | 4144847 janus
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i've book-marked the page, and thank you.  actually, my wife has a few of those herbal/plant books referenced on the page.  she really is a wiz with that stuff...encyclopedic knowledge and practicable understanding to boot.

thanks for the comments...and i more than understand the aversion to the youtube stuff.  really, for the most part, i expect almost all to brush past the links without clicking (well, if there's a single clip -- that's a bit more important).  it's just that i think i would'a made one hell of a DJ, had not i instead been burdened with a mission.  i very much regret my unrealized potentiality behind the mic...the art comes in properly cobbling together songs to affect a funk -- very few these days who understand as much.

i guess, if i were on these pages trying to accomplish any thing (besides practice-writing), it's to remind as many as can understand that, even though we are indeed entering the new age, our species -- homo sapien -- will in certain elemental ways remain the same sagacious savage he has always been.  all that's best of dark & bright, mingled in our aspect and in our very eye (stolen from lord byron...at least i fuckin admit it when i do it).  the trick of it is self-governance: the only justifiable pretext for liberty.  if men cannot (or will not) contain their harm to their selves, they expose themselves to penalty.  i want a society that tolerates any and all expression of the nobler human impulse -- no matter what others may consider his preferable condition (whether they be religionists or humanists -- fuck em all).  i want laws that punish only those who steal, cheat & harm (in a direct and demonstrable fashion)...but do so with fierce resolve -- under the auspices of the legal system this nation was founded upon (right up until marbury madison).  janus is big-em fan of Common Law (you could all do well reading a bit of Blackstone).

folks should bear it wisely in mind that gold is just as manipuable as fiat...its ownership and sourcing are rather easy to regulate (please recall wj bryant and the cross of gold).  i suppose, for the time being, i'm a fan of bit coin...tis far more difficult to contain human genius...mining algorythms can be done in the most clandestine of locales.

the thing about me is...well, i'm bad to the bone -- wicked to the core.  i've sinned the sin of satan on this earth.  i've looked earthly authority square in the eye and said to the most high, 'better to reign in hell than serve your heaven'.  i'm the heathern who will not convert; i insist, with my dying breath, that I know what is best for me and mine.  and if it comes down to it, i will do ANYTHING to get that point across.  do you read me, TPTB?  

and since i'm sick, i'll share with you a tiny secret.  yes, my gift with words and what-like is exceedingly rare (i'm ever-so sorry, haters...when you know, you know; but, it is sorta mystic, i will confess -- sometimes i truly feel it isn't me...sometimes it's like some spooky majik.  believe what you will, haters...i'm just speaking from the heart -- and my aim in life began, and up until recently remained, the pursuit of peace and simple happiness.  but i've been pushed too far.  and now i will use what God gave me In His Service)...the thing that makes me truly dangerous is my speaking ability.  there are a few in certain places scattered round that are aware of my lil gift o' gab.  and what makes me inestimably dangerous is my understanding of spiritual sway...it's a very real thing.  go to any concert or large gathering, understand the art of the lathering...oh, when i think of what i could do (he he he).  makes me grin with a menaced satisfaction (he he he).  and, it's fair to say, i'm decent in the arena of debate (he he he).

but, the truth of it is, i insist on privacy.  i want no part of public life.  to think, janus judged and scrutinized by the great unwashed...a gaggle of feculent folk who find 'grey's anatomy' engrossing?  what the fuck?  you simpletons really do suck.

oh, well, i've said far too much...don't even know how i got off on all that stuff -- probably should erase it, but i'm gonna let it stand (being sick and all).  i need to go jump in the hot shower...bout of chills washing back and forth across my flesh...like flocks of goosepimples flitting about without purpose.

so, manipfulation, i will see your 80's classic and raise you one (the one you sent was much appreciated):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Mt0ee9FraQ

&

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzrUqAtUcpU (that was acutally from the 70's, but it served its purpose nicely)

&

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D67kmFzSh_o (oops! sixties...shit -- i can't quite stay focused.  i'm more theme than melieu)

& (at the risk of excess...and at the further risk of being extra-remiss, one more from the eighties)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvM6TxUnCDE

and you may find yourself...,

janus

 

 

 

 

Tue, 11/12/2013 - 01:22 | 4144990 The Heart
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"& (at the risk of excess...and at the further risk of being extra-remiss, one more from the eighties)"

And a little cream on ze cake to add to the fine gathering here.:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu4oy1IRTh8

Tue, 11/12/2013 - 02:16 | 4145074 janus
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now for zee cherry...voila!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoV-awiHpuM

Mon, 11/11/2013 - 19:34 | 4144010 Manipuflation
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What about the partisans who simply fought back any way they could and were not part of a statist military?

I knew that these journals needed to be preserved and for all of this time I have done so.  You ought to see what these guys had to say 15 years ago and how relevant most all of it still is.  You will have to settle for his first editorial on this link but you can see the magazine covers as well.  I would be curious if any of you were reading this sort of material at the time.

  http://www.boatingaccidentnews.com/the-partisan/

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