America and Israel Created a Monster Computer Virus Which Now Threatens Nuclear Reactors Worldwide

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In their obsession to stop Iran from developing nuclear weapons, the U.S. and Israel created a computer virus (called “Stuxnet”) to take out Iran’s nuclear enrichment machinery.

The virus appears to have spread to other countries.

One of the world’s top computer security experts – Eugene Kaspersky – said this week that the virus has attacked a Russian nuclear reactor.   As The Register notes:

The infamous Stuxnet malware thought to have been developed by the US and Israel to disrupt Iran’s nuclear facilities, also managed to cause chaos at a Russian nuclear plant, according to Eugene Kaspersky.


The revelation came during a Q&A session after a speech at Australia’s National Press Club last week, in which he argued that those spooks responsible for “offensive technologies” don’t realise the unintended consequences of releasing malware into the wild.


“Everything you do is a boomerang,” he added. “It will get back to you.”




“Unfortunately, it’s very possible that other nations which are not in a conflict will be victims of cyber attacks on critical infrastructure,” said Kaspersky.


“It’s cyber space. [There are] no borders, [and many facilities share the] same systems.”


Not finished there, Kaspersky also claimed to have heard from “Russian space guys” in the know that even machines on the International Space Station had been infected “from time to time” after scientists arrived aboard with infected USBs.

Watch for yourself:

Other security experts agree.


As British security website V3 – in an article entitled “Stuxnet: UK and US nuclear plants at risk as malware spreads outside Russia” – reports:

Experts from FireEye [background] and F-Secure [background] told V3 the nature of Stuxnet means it is likely many power plants have fallen victim to the malware ….


F-Secure security analyst Sean Sullivan told V3 Stuxnet’s unpredictable nature means it has likely spread to other facilities outside of the plant mentioned by Kaspersky.


“It didn’t spread via the internet. It spread outside of its target due to a bug and so it started traveling via USB. Given the community targeted, I would not be surprised if other countries had nuclear plants with infected PCs,” he said.


Director of security strategy at FireEye, Jason Steer, mirrored Sullivan’s sentiment, adding the insecure nature of most critical infrastructure systems would make them an ideal breeding ground for Stuxnet.




Steer added the atypical way Stuxnet spreads and behaves, means traditional defences are ill equipped to stop, or even accurately track the malware’s movements.


“It’s highly likely that other plants globally are infected and will continue to be infected as it’s in the wild and we will see on a weekly basis businesses trying to figure out how to secure the risk of infected USB flash drives,” he said.




The use of XP in power plants is set to become even more dangerous as Microsoft has confirmed it will officially cut support for the 12-year-old OS in less than a year. The lack of support means XP systems will no longer receive critical security updates from Microsoft.

That’s almost as brilliant as waging a global war on terror in such an idiotic way that it is increasing terrorism


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Thu, 11/14/2013 - 07:43 | 4153349 Reptil
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GW is right.
A cyber attack IS a problem for nuclear plants. Last minute manual controls might not work if the condition is set (in the attack).
Diablo County Nuclear Plant was HACKED by the Chinese. Security is as leaky as a siff.

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 14:34 | 4150840 SmittyinLA
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This is funny, the state is actively pushing "smart grid" technology to rip out all those old manual unhackable switches. 


We're investing in a less secure, less robust, more expensive and more open to fuckwith system to accommodate Solar & wind generation-and of course leveraged energy traders.

Thu, 11/14/2013 - 07:46 | 4153354 Reptil
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Decentralisation is the answer.
Smart grids can't be hacked if they're stand alone.
Giant nuclear or coal plants are easy targets.

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 14:11 | 4150711 Z_End
Wed, 11/13/2013 - 13:43 | 4150528 Z_End
Wed, 11/13/2013 - 14:59 | 4150972 SmittyinLA
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They should teach PLC programming in middle school and only hire Americans, (but that would be logical and rational)

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 12:02 | 4150002 I Write Code
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"How do I know this microphone isn't bugged?"


Stuxnet, LOL, try worrying about the viruses you DON'T know the names of, yet.

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 12:42 | 4150223 Running On Bing...
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The ones that aren't known or named.


Wed, 11/13/2013 - 10:50 | 4149699 rsnoble
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As long as ebay and porn doesn't get shut down i'm cool.

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 13:56 | 4150620 ncdirtdigger
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don't forget amazon, gotta get my cheap shit

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 10:47 | 4149688 supermaxedout
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This makes sense to me. Stuxnet is from what I read attacking Siemens software.

The risk of a potential virus attack on Siemens software used in all of Germanys nuclear power plants as well as the plants build by Siemens in other countries. This a real threat. The potential damage extremly high.

Maybe this was the last drop which made the barrel overflow for Frau Angela Merkel.  Her decision to get rid of nuclear power in Germany was triggered not only by Fukushima but also the Stuxnet virus.  

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 10:44 | 4149674 wattsnotsaid
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This article is all supposition from someone who has no understanding. At most it could affect the control systems at which point the hardwired safety systems would take over and the plant would be safely  shutdown.  Possilbly a financial concern due to lost generation but definitely not a nuclear safety concern.

This site has too much bs of people who take factiods (looks like a fact but isn't) and develop crisis scenarios, and its obvious from their lack of detail that they don't really understand what they're talking about. 

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 14:42 | 4150887 Reader1
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That's what I remember reading-Stuxnet was specifically aimed at a particular computer running a particular operation; not every computer everywhere. 

It's pretty funny our smartest technicians can't run a virus scan on their thumbdrives before they go into freaking space.  I guess computer security on the space station is pretty low, huh?

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 09:53 | 4149486 Fix It Again Timmy
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Dear Geruda,

Why go into depth over matters one has no control; just realizing the scope of the matter allows one to make appropriate decisions and take productive courses of action which is where I spend the majority of my time.  I am running a company providing a necessary service that improves the lives of people...

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 09:48 | 4149465 JohnFrodo
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There is only one explanation, the powers that be create blowback on purpose so they will have something to fight against.

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 10:47 | 4149686 rsnoble
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Sure in some cases but not all.  They are just a bunch of greedy fucking assholes and many times i'm sure will do things to get what they want and worry about the unseen consequences later. 

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 09:30 | 4149397 earnulf
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If this thing really does trash the internet, say goodbye to your bitcoins, not to mention any financial digital dollars you think you own.

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 09:13 | 4149334 CH1
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Kaspersky is KGB.

Trust him at your own risk.

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 13:18 | 4150430 scrappy
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I had drinks with Kaspersky last January.

(not Vodka, it is beneath them believe it or not, sorry Boris)

Nice restaurant in Boston, great food too.

Brought the wife and signed her up as "strategic relations"

It always throws off the corporate types. I made it up.

We talked network security, and then on one hand he said there is no privacy in the US, and on the other he did not like my suggestion that people need DATA RIGHTS.

The Globalist vs. the Nationalist. Anyway, he liked me anyway.

He gave all the hangers on a fake email address that goes to his secretary, but gave me and me only. his real one.

He also likes volcanos.

Cut to cool video...

Maybe he will get a bunch of them caused by meltdowns someday.

Though seriously, he is a very smart and unique person.

Trust him?

What do you think?


Wed, 11/13/2013 - 09:01 | 4149305 TrumpXVI
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"It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. In a panic, they try to pull the plug."

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 10:53 | 4149714 Zero Debt
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More like pulling the socket out while the plug is still connected.

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 05:35 | 4149123 lakecity55
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There are places I work where you cannot take in a stick, mobile phone, etc.

Even a separate pc laptop is not allowed.

Why are these places not scanning moveable media first if they must use them?

A lot of this is due to carelessness.

Why would someone hook up a power plant, water plant, etc to the www?

All major countries build chipsets with back doors. You have to keep certain stuff off-line, period.

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 09:14 | 4149340 redd_green
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Me thinks there is a lot of propaganda floating around about this stuxnet thing.  

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 05:10 | 4149112 ebworthen
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Too bad it hasn't infected the algo HFT robots of Cyberdyne Systems.

Reactors running on Windows XP?  Hey, I.R.S. is still using that too!

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 05:21 | 4149116 SAT 800
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Please everyone, let's all obsess about the non-existant problem of a virus that may or may not arrive at someplace; but for God's sake don't pay any attention to Obomber and Kerrry, and the rest of the MIC-reps. as they try their damndest to start a war in Syria that can spread, with a few artful false flag ops. into Iran. It would be helpful too, if you would all buy geiger counters and check your canned sardines; but just don't pay any attention to the man behind the curtain, ok?

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 05:09 | 4149110 UserLong
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This is a worldwide sabotage. STOP IT! STOP LET THE WORLD PAY FOR YOUR INSANITY!

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 12:00 | 4149991 UrbanBard
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What were these industrual control people thinking?

If you run an operating system which has no internal security (Windows), then you must expect these kinds of problems. This does not appear on UNIX, Linux or Mac OS X.

The only solution is to get rid of Windows.

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 05:07 | 4149108 Joe A
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Sounds like the script of a B-class science fiction movie

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 05:15 | 4149114 SAT 800
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Yeah, like 90% of George's ignorant passionate raving.

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 05:44 | 4149130 Ar-Pharazôn
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i saw the exactly same article yesterday on


now i m wondering if george washington might be alex jones :P

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 04:54 | 4149101 drunkenlout
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Why is this hitting ZH on the day of GridEX2?


Wed, 11/13/2013 - 02:58 | 4149031 antidisestablis...
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It's amazing to me that this George Washington dude can even get himself to crawl out of bed in the morning.  I mean every damn day he's waking up to some new calamity that will sure as shit be wiping us off the face of the Earth.  But shouldn't we all be dead by now? 

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 04:41 | 4149088 Zero Point
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Wed, 11/13/2013 - 02:17 | 4148986 geewhiz
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Stuxnet, Israel, whats the difference?

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 02:06 | 4148971 I Write Code
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It must be true, I saw Godzilla sneeze.

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 01:48 | 4148934 SmittyinLA
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Hell!  We diden do it.  If they are using Windows they are just 'effen asking for it.  Windows for Dummies.

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 02:03 | 4148966 President Palin
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Well - they shouda been usin' those Macs at the nuculer power plants... them Macs don't get those viruses, you know...

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 05:25 | 4149117 dreadnaught
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actually i dont think there have ever been Mac viruses *out in the wild* sure, there are "proof of concept" exploits-ie: THEORHETICAL, dreamed up by big brains in security companies-which never make it out of the lab. I remember looking at the MacAffee web site before Mac began using OS X...Mac viruses-half page----Windows viruses-12 pages....Mac is built on Unix-a solid foundation- Windows is an antiquated hodgepoge technology built on tons of competing drivers; I do know that many companies have lost billions because of poor windows security

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 07:50 | 4149211 the tower
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There's nothing inherently secure about OSX. Malware developers just tend to focus on the system that is most widely used, especially in corporate environments: Windows.

Second: as OSX is a closed box, we have no clue about its security. Android is also built on UNIX, but it's open-source, so at least there we can see what's going on. The fact that an OS is built on UNIX doesn't make it secure in itself.

Third: the software that runs on an OS comes from third parties. Be it Wordpress extensions, apps or browser plugins: it's all opening up your system for attacks.

If you still believe that Macs are inherently safe then you're just ignorant.

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 06:40 | 4149155 Urban Redneck
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MuppetOS may be built off a Linux branch (which in the process DESTROYED everything that was great about NextStep) but what they built was designed entirely around communicating with the mothership and easing interoperability with other Muppet intelligence gathering tools and in the process taking power and authority away from the user (all in the name of "ease of use").

The Mac operating system ITSELF is malware.

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 01:21 | 4148898 MarcusLCrassus
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I wonder if this had something to do with the Fukushima meltdown.

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 14:28 | 4150798 SmittyinLA
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No, it was the 6 feet of vertical ground movement followed by salt water immersion (electric pumps don't work when overturned, ripped out cables then immersed in salt water), human incompetence caused Fukushima, they built their nuke plant between 1600 year old monuments and the ocean, what was written on the 1600 year old monuments said "Don't build between here & the sea, Tsunami zone". 



Wed, 11/13/2013 - 00:25 | 4148811 Fix It Again Timmy
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Doing what governments do best: fucking things up....Sorry, there is no better way to say it....

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 00:49 | 4148848 Geruda
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.Sorry, there is no better way to say it....


You give yourself too much credit.  There are much better ways to speak the truth of the matter.


No better way for YOU to say it perhaps.    Given the barely literate babble that typifies most of the junk that spews from folks on this website, you got nothing to be ashamed to admit.  Even if you could say it better, most here wouldn't understand it.   "Fucking things up..." is about as loquacious as the remedial folks here can keep up with.

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 13:15 | 4150412 Serfs_Up
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Nice comment Geruda, you bleeding Mangina

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 02:21 | 4148988 geewhiz
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Hey Geruda we missed you, thanks for dropping by. You can go back to playing with your dildo now.

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 00:24 | 4148809 TyrannoSoros Wrecks
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Kaspersky used to work for the KGB.
Just thought I'd mention that.

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 09:27 | 4149255 Running On Bing...
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He still does, have you studied his on disk OS architecture?

The 'rescue' disk, lol, provided to you for 'free'.


Wed, 11/13/2013 - 01:42 | 4148925 safe as milk
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and now he sells anti-virus software. not exactly a neutral non-biased source...

Wed, 11/13/2013 - 08:21 | 4149245 New_Meat
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Kaspersky has AV products, hmmm

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