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Bitcoins, Dollars and Renminbi
Reports indicate strong Bitcoin interest in China. BTC, the China-based Bitcoin exchange accounts (trading a third of all Bitcoin transactions, while China may account to close to half of the daily turnover, according to some internet reports) at an estimated 200k Bitcoins a day.
Registered participants on BTC is reportedly near 10k and rising quickly lately. China-based Baidu, one on the largest internet companies in the world, has begun integrating Bitcoins into their network.
On a recent trip to Asia and since, we found the Chinese media, in particular, had strong interest in Bitcoin angles and stories. That level of interest, however, did not appear reflected among the asset managers to whom we spoke.
There two general explanations offered from the Chinese interest in Bitcoins. The first is that it is part of China's challenge to the US dollar. Some who are involved in the digital currency space, think that the Bitcoin could actually chip away at the US dollar's reserve currency status. This seems quite far fetched and a incredible claim (in the sense of lacking credibility), though it has not stopped reporters from repeating it. Yet, not to lose point, the idea is that digital currencies, of which the Bitcoin is the biggest and best known, is an alternative to fiat money.
The other explanation of the popularity of China's interest in Bitcoins is much less philosophical and normative and simply pragmatic and grounded into real needs. Simply put, in a country that continues to closely regulate capital flows, the Bitcoin gives Chinese savers a way to circumvent the government's strictures.
China has been in the process of financial liberalization for some time, albeit at varying speeds. It is expected to become gradually easier to investment overseas. Often, when legitimate channels are developed, officials crack down harder on the shadier channels. Back in 2009, Chinese officials did move against another digital currency (QQ). Some argue that it was the centralized form that Chinese officials thought challenging rather than digital currencies in theory.
Yet, there are few places in China to really spend Bitcoins and the issue seems to be how much are the Bitcoins, simply another speculative vehicle and how much is it a circumvention vehicle. Even if it is most a speculative vehicle, regulators may still take an interest. To be fair, the media coverage outstrips the actual number of people involved with Bitcoin trading in China.
In the US, Bitcoins have a different function. An like bluejeans and rock and roll music, the plasticity or flexibility of American culture and political institutions offers a different tact. In Senate hearings early this week, both the chairman of the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs and the Director of the Treasury Department's Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FINCEN) suggested that digital currencies are comparable to the internet in its earliest days.
Treasury's Calvery was quoted saying, "So often, when there is a new type of financial service or a new players in the financial industry, the first reaction by those of us who are concerned about money laundering or terrorist finance is to think about the gaps and the vulnerabilities that it creates in the financial system. But it is also important that we step back and recognize that innovation is a very important part of our economy."
US officials seem to recognize the digital currencies can provide a legitimate financial service and has the same benefits and risks of online payment systems. Later today, the Federal Election Commission is to decide today whether digital currencies, such as Bitcoins, can be used as contributions to political campaigns.
For those devotees who embrace the Bitcoin in the US (of high income countries more generally) as an alternative store of value than fiat (paper) money, there seems to be a fundamental contradiction. If it is truly desired as an alternative store of value, then the exchange value is less important, but if it cannot be used, then it might not be considered money. It seems that such a holder of Bitcoins should only use them for transactions if they felt that value of Bitcoins was rich to paper money.
The critique of fiat money indicates that paper money will continue to fall depreciate against some external metric, like gold or a basket of goods. This view argues against using Bitcoins as medium for transactions. Economists often argue there are three functions of money, a medium of exchange, a store of value and a unit of account. Digital currencies, including the Bitcoin has not achieve the networking effect that is required for a unit of account. We argue here that its function as a store of value works against it acting as a medium of exchange. Perhaps this is the trilemma facing digital alternatives to fiat money.
Sovereigns traditionally have two monopolies: the power of coinage and the legitimate use of violence. There are numerous examples of the sovereign sharing its monopoly with others, but only in limited ways. Those who embrace digital currencies as an alternative to fiat money may always exist, but in relatively small numbers. Surely, the income and wealth divergence that transcends economic models, suggest that far too many people do not have sufficient fiat money to make ends meet and digital currencies are a luxury they cannot afford.
On the other hand, digital currencies to facilitate transactions may have a greater future, but then, predicated on fiat currencies.
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Of course you strip the internet of 'porn' and bandwidth
would drop to 5%,
I would agree that not all 'privacy' is crime, some us just don't like others watching us 24/7.
But's its really not about 'crime', as much as its about
FRAUD, and PUMP&DUMP
Not unlike cabbage-patch dolls a few years ago,
Just because the chinese are now involved, is proof it is gambling, and when it fall's out of favor, and they're lemmings and it will, then it will be POOF!
Not true, Bitcoin enjoyed a stellar rally after the shutdown of silk road.
You keep using Bitcoin and your definition of what is illegal disappears.
So when Fonestar is sitting pretty with a few humdred million we can cap his ass and Robin Hood his stash and it will all be cool?
COOL!
And what makes you believe the guys who shut down Liberty Reserve did not just take over their biz?
You really are an idiot.
btw -iamslattery
Good luck with that, when BTC is seven figures you won't hear from fonestar for awhile.
Radio silence.
Say it again - you are an idiot
Review-
The Reciept is the Transaction.
Unless you are eating weeds and hoarding - you are a target.
Well good luck parsing tens of millions of public addresses and then the problem of matching them to real identities.
With the lower bounds of infinity being touched by the number of Bitcoin addresses that can be freely created, good luck indeed.
Go ahead, find traces of cocaine on my Bitcoin, I dare ya.
We live in a world where there is an agency (NSA, DHS, FBI, CIA, IRS, etc.) that makes virtually every transaction illegal if they want to put the screws to you. Bitcoin is amoral just as guns are amoral. The anonymity characteristic of Bitcoin is its most attractive feature. This feature also makes it very attractive for the same government agencies (including the FED) to utilize Bitcoin for their own agendas. The only thing that will make Bitcoin disappear is proof that the block chains have been hacked or that it has become the tool of the State / Cabal.
That being said I am still stacking PMs, buying land / tools / etc. which are a true store of value. I will use Bitcoin when I need to make an anonymous transaction that I can't otherwise do via the human network rather than the electronic network.
We are all fucking idiots when the DHS, US Treasury and Secret Service all finish what they say with "not ignoring the benefits to consumers".
Where will one find the spine to see crypto-currency as the reciept as THE transaction. Not what either party gets in their version of value but what the reciept says.
As well, ever been in a blackout?
BitCons perfect for the nagger who loves ideas based on no cost and all upside no matter what the Cost to stay on the right side is.
Go do something good for somebody and learn that connection is not mastubating in a mirror.
See my comment above.
You keep your fiat in a currant account and your purchasing power disappears. I didn't downvote you b.t.w.
What if the IMF threw an SDR and nobody came?
They just change SDR to BTC.
Just for you fonestar.