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Of course you can trust the Govt.; just ask any Indian.
Yay...the drones made an appearance once again!
Why you no buy lone gunmen?
Is that a beef jerky brand?
LOL! It should be. Or maybe an alt rock band.
Did you forget about the Dead Kennedys?
Beef Jerky has a Dual Meaning...
get off my grassy knoll
If you like your grassy knoll then you can keep your grassy knoll.
"get off my grassy knoll" A forlorn lesbian's song of love and betrayal...
It is the yearning of the darkness for companionship that fills it with these ghosts.
Did you come up with that?
That is very, very good...
Did. And thx.
Looking back at the photos and videos taken in Dallas two things stood out to me that have nothing at all to do with the assassination. First is how healthy the people in the crowds look--no 300 pound lardasses like we have all over the place today. Secondly is that most of the the black people in the crowds looked to be together as families, which today's welfare state has pretty much done away with. Sad how much our society has declined.
Things would have been a lot better without BOTH Kennedy's assassinations, for America and the World.
My respect to the Kennedy´s family and to that amazing woman, Ethel.
different generation, now you can get SNAP, disabilty, and moto-chair at the Walmart entrance so you can keep eating well... those folks b4 LBJ were just suckas
Interesting and excellent observations. I really have tried to ignore the news today.....there's way too much on ZH to depress me enough. Watch the news just pisses me off more.
I see many Americans who come into town on business. It is often extremely embarassing to look at some of them, because from the Asian perspective it just ain't normal. Of course there are others who look perfectly normal because they exercise self control and exercise somehow.
For me, exercise is walking. Lots and lots and lots of walking...and thinking while I am at it ;-)
The food is so good here and involves lots of noodles and rice, so I better keep walking.
Obesity (and diabetes) rates are exploding higher in China. No throwing stones in a glass house. White rice has a very high glycemic index.
"Lots and lots and lots of walking...and thinking while I am at it ;-)"
The ancient Romans had a saying: "SOLVITUR AMBULANDO" translates to "it is solved by walking"
Glenn Gould the great pianist 'solved' his Baroque keyboard conundrums by stepping away from the instrument.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB76jxBq_gQ
Walk, it solves a multitude of problems, unknots the knots, just walk - with no earphones in your ears!!! Leave your iphone/ipod glorified walkman behind. Walk and listen to yourself and the world around you. Make your own music.
While spending many month traveling in Europe and Asia last year, I easily lost 15 pounds. Just walking everywhere and eating "normal" food. No intentional workouts, no diets. Goes to show how bad the American lifestyle is.
When everyone eats the oversized fastfood portions etc, it has to be a constant battle.
I'm gonna give this some thought over a greasy cheesesteak this evening.
Lots of unions, that's the secret to that.
I meant onions but spell check thinks unions. I guess that makes sense. Unionized cheese steak aficionados ;-)
The BPA, GMO, Flouride etc didn't just happen. www.infowars.com
Rothschild-Israeli Ties to JFKcontinued at link above.
Also see Michael Collins Piper's own book Final Judgment: The Missing Link In The JFK Assassination Conspiracy
Maurice Phillips' Website: http://somesecretsforyou.blogspot.com/2010/06/permindex-papers-iii.html
I've been reading a most interesting book by a fellow named Elmer Barnes, titled Historical Revisionism and the Road to Peace. It was published posthmously by the Cato Institute in late 1960s.
At that time, Barnes was the leading academician among college departments of history who looked at history through the lens of the age-old saying that Truth is the First Casualty of War.
Barnes focused on the lies told as precursors, or causes, of WW1 and WW2.
This was before "historical revisionism" and "historical revisionist" were transformed into "conspiracy theory"and "conspiracy theorist," respectively.
Makes you wonder ...
P.S. Please please please email me by using PGP key under my Bio.
The fifty year anniversary is full of bull. All the talk is about slaying strawmen conspiricacy theorys. The real focus should be on the remaining facts.
1) Zapruder film shows Kennedy shot in the forehead, rear skull chunks and him moving backwards. Ergo two shooters.
2) Magic bullet, copper jacket bullets to not make this journey without a scratch and then fall out of the body.
3) At the height of the cold war, self described Maxists do not get posted to the most sensitive base in the Military, in the highly secrect Radar task. Then get trained in Russian, and for good measure wander back and forth between the USSR and the USA at the height of the cold war.
http://thinkingaboot.blogspot.ca/2013/11/nov-22-1963.html
First of all, the absolute dumbest thing any conspiracy that, as usual, wants to look like the independent action of a lone individual could do would be to have a second shooter. Every scientific investigation I have seen leads me to firmly believe that there was one shooter and that he was in the school book depository. HOWEVER, that doesn't mean that I don't believe there was a conspiracy. I believe there was.
1) Zapruder film shows Kennedy shot in the forehead, rear skull chunks and him moving backwards.
From the rocket force of skull and brain matter blown out to the front of the skull from a bullet entering from the rear, leaving only a small round hole in the back of the skull as it would be expected to. Also, contraction of the back muscles caused by the brain trauma.
2) Magic bullet, copper jacket bullets to not make this journey without a scratch and then fall out of the body.
Yes, they do in the case of the highly unusual shape of the Carcano bullet. And the bullet called the magic bullet wasn't magic in any way (the film JFK was hugely inaccurate). I've seen two painstaking forensic reenactments of the event, one using precise ballistic gel, skin, and skeletal simulants in precise victim body shapes, sizes, and angles and one using just appropriate thicknesses of the various simulants. Both produced amazing results nearly identical to the actual bullet conditions and wounds. The latter can be seen here in this excellent 2013 documentary:
PBS: Cold Case JFK
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/tech/cold-case-jfk.html
3) At the height of the cold war, self described Maxists do not get posted to the most sensitive base in the Military, in the highly secrect Radar task. Then get trained in Russian, and for good measure wander back and forth between the USSR and the USA at the height of the cold war.
Correct. But that makes him the perfect patsy for a conspiracy using him as the "lone nut." Those using him, I believe, were a combination of organized crime and Cuban expats, both in segments of their criminal networks that were intentionally ignored by the CIA and FBI because they were useful, useful for the organized crime segment in potential Castro assassination attempts and useful in the Cuban expat segment in their Bay of Pigs and Castro overthrow aid.
What was in it for the ignored criminal networks? In the case of organized crime, Bobby Kennedy was coming down really hard on them and Johnson and Bobby were major enemies. Get rid of JFK and Johnson is in charge, eliminating Bobby's powerful ally and installing an enemy.
What was in it for the Cuban expats? Retaliation for JFKs refusal to provide US military air support after the Bay of Pigs invasion started to go sour and to take the heat off of their drug smuggling networks via the marginalization of Bobby Kennedy.
Everything I've seen and read, and I've seen and read a lot, totally destroys scientifically any claim that there was more than one shooter or that shots came from anywhere other than the school book depository. However, for some reason, everyone seems to miss what I have concluded.
Why would Oswald mail order the rifle when he could have bought a totally undocumented one in a gun shop in Dallas? Why did he have that photo taken of himself with the newspaper and the rifle, a photo which is authentic BTW? Why did a voice stress analysis of the audio track from the news camera footage of him shouting "I'm just a patsy!" as he was hauled away indicate that it was nearly certain that he was telling the truth, as indicated in a documentary that I've seen years ago? Most importantly, WHY did Oswald's attempt to escape after his allegedly pre-planned assassination attempt appear to be totally unplanned and wildly desperate?
Simple. His ride never showed up!
Everything Oswald did indicates that he wanted the credit for the assassination, but why then the desperate attempt to escape? Again, simple. He wanted the credit, but didn't want to be caught and didn't think he would be, probably expecting to be smuggled away to Cuba. But the person or persons who conspired with him didn't show up when it counted. He was a patsy. Jack Ruby then made sure that was never revealed.
Among other events on that day in history are the deaths of Aldous Huxley and C.S. Lewis. Not to mention how it ruined my brother's 13th birthday...
Please don't let your animals play with any tinsel decorations over the holidays. That stuff is sharp and can do real harm to your four-legged friend's stomach and digestive tract. Protect the living.
Your totaly wrong on point 1. The doctor who worked first on Kennedy clearly says it was a shot from the front, oh but he was confused, not.
http://warrenkinsella.com/2013/11/the-irish-catholic-king/
Look at the magic bullet, NOVA used a full metal jacket, but the magic bullet was copper.
Nope. Did you even watch the 2013 PBS show, just one example of the many very careful forensic investigations I've watched? The "magic bullet" was a normal FMJ Carcano round, is still available in the archives, and was close-up photographed by the PBS documentary investigators. I've also seen period photos of it. All forensic reenactments I've seen produce an amazingly similar small deformation of the FMJ bullet. The 2013 PBS documentary also discusses the autopsy myths and errors and their causes in detail as did other documentaries I've seen.
The following point is absolutely irrefutable according to every bit of scientific evidence I've seen and that's a lot: one shooter in the Texas School Book Depository assassinated JFK using a Carcano rifle. Anything else is just a useless diversion which I could refute in detail point by point because I've read or seen all of the counterpoints, but I'm not going to take the time here. Take the time to fully investigate for yourself in great detail as I did.
Something that I am also very nearly as certain about: Oswald was the intended fall guy, something that he knew about but as a condition of participating expected not to be caught and held to account. Whether or not he was the actual shooter from the school book depository is actually irrelevant. He was the intended fall guy. He was also a stupid sucker or "patsy" as even he called himself.
now explain away the crowds reaction and the four witnesses on the railroad bridge who saw smoke and people behind the fence at the grassy knoll
and that bullet didnt just hit ballistic gel in real life, it shattered connelys bone
and listen to him change his story in his first two interviews
and thats just to start
Oswald was an early precurser to all of the purported AQ nitwits, entrapped nitwits at that, they keep wheeling out to impress everyone.
Oswald said he was a patsy just before he died. I don't go for conspiracy theories, but there are not too many reasons to lie with a bullet in your gut down at city hall.
Oswald shot but he wasn't alone, might have thought he was alone but he wasn't.
There is no way he could have got off three shots in the time alloted, with a bolt action, scoped Caranco, on a moving target going away from him. I'm sayin it would have taken him a minimum of seven seconds to take the recoil, rack in another bullet, reaquire and then shoot again...so Oswald ran out of time for the amount of shots taken, let alone the accuracy of the shots.
So in this regard, he was a patsy (IMO) even though he shot, he would have also known when he didn't shoot and JFK's head exploded.
The time for Oswald to shoot (if we are to believe the single assassin theory) is when the motorcade is coming directly toward the book depository building and him...growing larger in his scope (not smaller) and nowhere for the motorcade to go after the first shot (when everyone starts screaming) but full stop or toward him.
I'll give him the one through his neck, not the second or third.
Many open windows, many unsaid words: DRAGUNOV, note adoption date compared with JFK...
Just sayin' things I ain't never heard no cowboy sayin'...
There are so many BS myths about the assassination, e.g. "There is no way he could have got off three shots". It is totally plausible. Successful tests using the same type of weapon show it is very reasonable that 3 shots were fired from a single weapon in the time of the attack.
If you're going to quote me, please include the entire quote, thanks and no harm, no foul:
"There is no way he could have got off three shots in the time alloted, with a bolt action, scoped Caranco, on a moving target going away from him."
He (Oswald) was not that good of a shot, he barely qualified as marksman. That little factoid is media hype, him being "a marksman". If Carlos Hathcock couldn't do it at Quantico (if you know who is), Oswald damned sure would not have been able to do it in Dallas, in real life, suppressing his adrenaline (before and after his first shot) even if given one trillion tries to get it right. He's shooting at a president, not a squirrel or a stationary target on a range.
I'm telling you, I know snipers, Oswald was no sniper.
Sorry, you are simply projecting...
LHO was more than qualified to get lucky...
For Oswald, one shot through the base of the neck on a moving target would have been "lucky" Flak. The second (or third depending on what evidence you prefer to believe) would have been impossible for him.
We're talking about the difference between a trained sniper who uses the same weapon over & over & over again (almost daily) to achieve the highest degree of skill possible and this doofus named Lee Harvey Oswald, who bought a bolt action, scoped Caranco off the shelf.
We don't even know if he ever sighted it in to the distance he planned to shoot from. He barely qualified in the Marines (years earlier) with the M1, a semi-auto and iron sights and we know he sucked at hunting when he defected to the USSR and was in Minsk, Belarus. If he couldn't hit a stationary rabbit in the Soviet Union he damned sure couldn't hit JFK's head, moving along in a limo.
This establishes (for me) that he is not a "sniper" or even a reasonably good shot by this point in his life.
The two shots that hit JFK, hit within five seconds of each other. The second shot (or third) missed and hit a curb injuring a bystander to bring it all to eight seconds. If the second shot hit JFK (his head exploding) he had no reason to fire a third shot did he?...(he would have seen it, processed the kill shot and been thinking seriously about getting out of there). If it was the third shot, how could he have possibly missed with the second and JFK is now even further away than the first shot that went through his neck?
No, JFK's head flying apart was not from Oswalds gun, I'm giving Oswald more respect as a shooter than he deserves by even giving him a "lucky" first shot (through the neck) but not a second (or third) to the head from further away, with the weapon said to be used, in the time alloted. We're talking about Oswald here, not a trained shooter/sniper.
As I said earlier:
The Kennedy Assasination is a perfect Rohrschach Test... people see what they want to see...
Hey, write a book about it.... Lot of people have...
Maybe I will...but most of the main characters/witnesses and further avenues of exploration all seemed to have wound up dead in yet another very short period of time, for some odd reason.
Probably mere coincidence or just more dumb luck...lol.
There is more to the story.
So, why do you think Ruby shot Oswald? You thinking Ruby was overcome with grief and just a big ole JFK supporter at heart, what with his AG brother Robert nipping at the heels of his mobster buddies like he was?
Again, as I said above...
There were probably people that didn't want their names being mentioned in any potential trial despite the fact they had nothing to do with the assasination...
FWIW, are you aware that in a poll immediately after 40% of Americans said they would kill LHO if they had been given a chance and they approved of JR's actions, thinking him to be a hero?
I wish I had written this
http://scienceblogs.com/denialism/2013/11/22/its-been-50-years-time-to-drop-the-conspiracy-theories/
I have no doubt 40% would have.
I also have zero doubt 100% of those who were involved, felt the same way about killing him before he could talk...lol.
Perhaps the 40% were caught up in the "red under the bed" thingy. I don't know. But evidence points to Oswald involved (with an accomplce) in trying to kill General Walker. Many would like to know who the accomplce was in that one too.
And yes, he couldn't hit his target in that one either, even though the general was sitting down, completely stationary. But I'm certain after that, those who could shoot straight, took note of a patsy in their midst they could use.
This is not meant to convince anyone to change their mind, but it is a interesting perspective and I thought it was well written
Lee Harvey's Final Steps
It was well written.
I had forgotten about De Mohrenschildt and John Abt (who was not mentioned in the article) in the ideological sphere.
Its been a long time since I gave it this much thought...but there were a lot of people who wanted him dead for many reasons. Carlos Marcello among them, in the "just business" sphere as well.
I have a friend who is an ex CIA sniper who happens to agree with you. On a personal note, my personal best hitting a running squirrel at fifty feet with a .22 is now 1 out of 10 and not all are kill shots. I know I would improve if I could just entice the little buggers to run towards me! The skill level of Oswald is the clencher for me. This could have only been done by a master marksman.
Miffed;-)
A .410 works better...lol.
And certainly more appropriate than grabbing my 12 gauge in frustration! " Improve your marksmanship shooting squirrels with a .22" my ass.
Miffed;-)