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Why Forecasts of a World Without Carbon-Based Fuel Are Delusional Pt 1
Resource pressure is a constant.
While the US continues to engage in a delusional energy “debate” about whether we will continue to burn coal and whether natural gas is a panacea, China is struggling to acquire and deploy of energy resources to support its economic growth targets.
China has an environment versus growth problem. Already China is the #1 importer of oil in the world. That‘s right. China imports more oil than the United States.
The US can hold its energy consumption below GDP growth through increased energy efficiency (technological improvements) and because our economy is more “services based” than China’s.
China on the other hand has to continue to consume more energy, particularly oil. The emerging and growing middle class there wants to buy cars, as is typical when annual GDP per capital hits $10,000-20,000 per year. With 4X the population of the US, if China approaches even 50% of the US’s car ownership rates, it will have TWICE as many cars in nominal terms.
Consider the following data point: China is adding one million new cars to its expanding road and highway network every single month.
This kind of growth will strains China’s energy and water supplies. Whenever the gap between demand and supply is enormous, literal fortunes can be made.
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Agenda 21...
Don't make me laugh. Govt. inventing a virus that actually works in the real world? Funny.
Some monkey in Africa is doing a better job of it, as we speak. Some double ++ Ebola with a long enough incubation rate to spread ought to do the trick.
Might have a few bumpy years getting technology back online but after the die-off it will be all happy days again.
Except for the wars and shit.
I always look at the sunny side of life.
It is easy to demonstrate how dependent the world will continue to be on petrochemicals. Just check this site:
http://usdebtclock.org/energy.html
After the US has just spent I don't know how many bazillions of dollars on solar and wind power, we still apparently obtain less than 1.4% of the total energy we consume in the US from solar and wind, combined. What is that? 'About $400 / gallon, gasoline equivalent price, per Joule of energy?
Oh My God!! I thought I'd stumbled into the CNBC chat room by mistake. Nonsense article, orver simplifying everything, and ignoring the longer term view....
Unless, of course, Rossi's cold fusion (which is now in production) works, then oil, gas, uranium, coal will not be so vital to run our economies. And then we can do what Buckminster Fuller suggested in "Critical Path" : improve the living conditions of all people and as a by-product, watch the planetary population decrease naturally.
Ya think a 5 trillion dollar industry is going to let Rossi in? $100 Billion is chump change to $uck him
LENR... Got a calcium deficiency? Don't take calcium. Your body will turn silicate into calcium. Your crops got a manganese deficiency? Treat them with copper.
Low Energy Nuclear Reactions. It's what we do...All living things.....
I'm working on my dick turning Shit into gold....'and I'll never run out of bankers'...right?
Whateva'
In 2010 there was a report by the US military saying that they expected a Global stortage of diesel by 2015. (A thread on ZH if I remember)
Regards
"Self-management communities instead, do not favor a global centralized control of any kind because they can operate locally and autonomously, merely having some common values and common characteristics. The locality of the self-management communities is a great advantage as there are no large energy requirements due to scale, but also due to a culture of degrowth and restrictions on basic needs at an early stage. Thus, self-management communities are possible even for the poorest societies."
"...before economic crisis hit the green development, there were proposals at European level, like for example microgrids, i.e. small and flexible electricity distribution networks, ideal for renewable energy applications and communities of small populations."
http://failedevolution.blogspot.gr/2013/09/self-management-societies-vs-...
Self management needs some help.
I'll be king, ok?
I just hope I fall through the cracks.
Re "The US can hold its energy consumption below GDP growth through increased energy efficiency (technological improvements) and because our economy is more “services based” than China’s." :
No. The US holds its energy consumption below GDP growth by making everyone too poor to drive (or buy anything for that matter), by outsourcing production, and by printing phony GDP numbers.
"TPTD" - too poor to drive. This is going to be in common use soon, remember that you heard it from PT first!
That sucked :/
The Chinese are a little late (about 50-100 years) to the growth phase of the world energy system. We should be focussing on some sort of steady state condition in quasi-equilibrium to avoid destroying yet more of the earth. But that's hard to do with 8.5B people. Its not that fossil fuels are limiting (that's nonsense to when E=m*c^2) and one can convert mass to energy so easily via fission, its more that that the carrying capacity of the earth is already exhausted. Of course one major pandemic may bring things back into equilibrium.
Cheers
Climate change, pollution, world water shortages, food shortages, shortages of trees, sickness, poverty, wars etc are all related to one huge gorilla in the room.
And that gorilla is overpopulation.
The ultimate solution, as propsed by the UN way back in 1992 and already old hat and well under way, can never be realized without an all-powerful World Government.
Google 'Agenda 21' -- which more or less defines a world wide human culling program which is as advanced as the World Governance agenda -- they must both happen together to achieve the ultimate hidden goal.
Now imagine a hugely culled world population in the future with heavily regulated human buffer zones with well-defined no-go green areas. In other words a controlled and heavily regulated world society where democracy no longer applies or exists. Where the power now resides solely with the elite and where such heavily regulated human populations become little more than worker cattle to be milked forever for the sake of their elite sheperds.
And all for the sake of "Saving the World" ?
So when is the next HIN1 epidemic due? Or is it now called H5N2....I guess we'll have to ask the researches at the laboratories of Fort Dix to be absolutely sure on that one. Perhaps we could also ask their researchers if they have a successful vaccine yet (I'm pretty sure that the elite already know the answer to that one -- lucky bastards!!)
So if you're a Greenie -- please think a little deeper about this problem -- it's just not as simple as "We must save the world!!". More importantly, you should be asking "For whose benefit?". For nature or mankind? For the plants and animals? Or is it really for the sake of our elite and all-powerful sheperds?
"Now imagine a hugely culled world population in the future with heavily regulated human buffer zones with well-defined no-go green areas. In other words a controlled and heavily regulated world society where democracy no longer applies or exists. Where the power now resides solely with the elite and where such heavily regulated human populations become little more than worker cattle to be milked forever for the sake of their elite sheperds. "
I do not have to imagine this. It is the reality now. Or perhaps you have not noticed. The only thing that's yet to begin is the killing. Only a matter of time.
But I call bullshit on the reasons. "Climate change, pollution, world water shortages, food shortages, shortages of trees, sickness, poverty, wars etc are all related to one huge gorilla in the room.
And that gorilla is overpopulation."
Ugh, please. Same old sky is falling bullshit. Climate change? I thought it was warming? Wait, no cooling? I forget. Earth is like honey badger-it don't care. Me I welcome a it bit warmer. Perhaps like when Greenland was a agricultural society a while back and wine grapes grew in what we call Great Britain. The climate's gonna change. We do not and cannot control it. Adapt.
Povert, wars are the reult of coercive governments that rule by the monopoly of violence. And a tribe is nothing more than primitive goobermint. And we're getting more tribal not less. Cause it's in the interest of TPTB to keep it that way so they keep pwoer and all the loot. IT'S THAT FUCKING SIMPLE.
There are more trees in the US than when the first knucklheads went west. There is plenty of food and water to be had it's just a logistics problem and the fact that governments, cartels, syndicates, and just generally criminal entities (but I repeat myself) prevent most of the planet from enjoying all these things.
The UN, World Bank, IMF, and all the other shitnills are just agents of the global elite who fear a world in which they do not control the masses. Keeping folks hungry and poor is a really good method for control. And control they muct because if left to their own devices these maggots would not last a minute. They are parasites by nature and will fight like dogs to keep their free lunch coming.
China will continue to "develop" until they posion themselves.
The fact china needs a lot of energy has nothing to do with the fact fossil fuels will someday be scarce. Do you think we're fucking idiots?
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Well. Not one person has replied. I don't bite and always try to be a good person. And I love cats and I don't lie. Yes, it's very difficult living in this world surrounded by zombies. All of these here highly-educated, high-income males who live alone, and not one of them has answered my plea. Have all the decent people of the world been killed or made too scared to email a decent stranger who is clearly in need?
It's really not that difficult to extract my email from the PGP key posted here. And it's OK if you don't want to use PGP. And I really don't care what your handle here is, if any of the tech stuff too intimidating. Try wait, maybe it's ME who is intimidating because I show off my knowledge. But that's the whole Fight Club meme, and it's not me, or at least not always.
Let's try this again, please. And I'm gonna keep at it until I get at least one genuine response. I'm not just repeating the exact same post over and over again. It will keep changing and will be reposted until I get a civil answer. Mahalo!
Inmate of open-air prison run by lunatics and populated almost entirely by zombies is desperately seeking a pen-pal ... because Aldous Huxley gave someone to Winston Smith.
For mutual support in these trying times, am seeking fellow non-zombie intelligent, open-minded, and well-informed inmate for discussing topics of mutual interest, such as:
Both actual and notional nuclear accidents, and nuclear technology of all sorts. Is nuclear safety always an oxymoron? I'd love to find a fellow atomic scientist here, as in Bull. Atom. Sci.;
Same as it ever was. “Kill the man, kill the problem,” Joe Stalin. Change is a process, not an event. Chicken Little has always been wrong, so why not now?;
Same as it ever was. Bankers v. The People is nothing new. In 1833 Andrew Jackson took on and succeeded in killing the Second Bank of the United States. In 1963 JFK took on the Fed and was killed. The bankers will do “whatever it takes” to keep it going as long as possible;
Same as it ever was. Historical Revisionism of WW1 and WW2 as a battle of valiant truth-telling historians versus the plush OSS/CIA myth-telling “historians” as waged notably by the largely, and very sadly, forgotten Harry Elmer Barnes, 1889–1968. Many brave souls such as he have seen history through the lens of The Truth is First Casualty of War … and lived to tell the tale, or at least published before their death. Big Mahalo to the CIA for renaming the quaint (and hifalutin) pre-JFK historical revisionism into the much more catchy (and contempo) conspiracy theory;
Same as it ever was. John Kenneth Galbraith 1975 Money: Whence it Came, Where it Went about the Capitalist Crisis as predicted by Karl Marx. Four decades later and still going?;
Same as it ever was. George Orwell's intended title for his most famous book was “1948,” its year of completion, nuff said. 1984, Alice in Wonderland, and The Wizard of Oz as works of history – and Newspeak, shunning, straw man, murder, etc., as (largely) effective social controls;
zerohedge.com as an island of sanity, albeit very sadly wholly lacking in collegiality; and, most importantly,
weaknesses in the open-air prison system which might allow its escape and/or subversion, because a mind is a terrible thing to waste.
SOS SOS SOS SOS SOS SOS SOS SOS SOS SOSSOS SOS SOS SOS SOS SOS SOS SOS SOS SOSSOS SOS SOS SOS SOS SOS SOS SOS SOS SOS
Suggestion: Single males who have the experience of having not been single before and who are now happy to be so, see the phrases "my plea," high-income males," and "in need," and sprint the other way. Your handle is just sugar on that analysis. No offense intended, but there ya go.
Based on the title, I* expected to eviscerate the author. Too bad there was insufficient data to even start.
Actually, there is an abundance of "data"--of the illiterate type--to throw an evisceration Party! For example, the "author" could begin by looking up the definition of the italicized, key phrase in the following:
"TWICE as many cars in nominal terms."
New IPO...
Floating Pig brand bottled water for the masses.
Ground floor opportunity.
https://illinois.edu/blog/dialogFileSec/3093.png
+1 for a chuckle.
Uuuuuuuuuuu.....can't wait for the Part 2 explosive expose'.
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The title promised a lot, so I didn't click by accident, but now I am disappointed that the article does not add anything to the title. Where's the beef?
Fishhawk
The Author is a primitive Carbon-based lifeform and must be eradicated.
I am sorry I clicked your article. Accident. Won't happen again.