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3 Times As Many Americans Supported King George During the Revolutionary War than Support Our OWN Congress Today
When Congress’ approval rating was in the double-digits, polls showed that it was less popular among the American public than cockroaches, lice, root canals, colonoscopies, traffic jams, used car salesmen, Genghis Khan, Communism, North Korea, BP during the Gulf Oil Spill, Nixon during Watergate or King George during the American Revolution.
An October poll by Public Policy Polling showed that Congress is less popular among the American people than zombies, witches, dog poop, potholes, toenail fungus and hemorrhoids. That was when Congress’ approval rating was 8%.
A new Economist/YouGov.com poll shows that Congress has hit an all-time low: only 6% of the American public approves of Congress.
To put this in perspective, Wikipedia notes:
Historians have estimated that between 15 and 20 percent of the European-American population of the colonies were Loyalists.
In other words, around 3 times as many colonists supported King George as the 6% which support our own Congress today.
Moreover, a May 2013 poll by Fairleigh Dickinson University found that 29% of registered voters think that armed revolution may be “necessary” in the next couple of years. In other words, the number of Americans who think that armed revolution may be “needed” dwarf the number of Americans who approve of the job that Congress is doing.
Even back in 2010, Rasmussen noted that only a small minority of the American people think that the government has the consent of the governed, and that the sentiment was “pre-revolutionary”.
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Imagine if Husbands and Wives only had a 6.% approval of each other. Then there would only be .36% happy marriages. What is the threshold for domestic violance if your spouse is sleeping around with a congressional lobbiest?
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I am not an American, but am I right in thinking that the constitution guarantees the right to bear arms for a specific reason.
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed
Just thinking aloud as it were, but what the fuck are you wusses waiting for.
To solve this, American's already have a mechanism: Voting against incumbents--its not even illegal. The problem is not the tyrants, its the sheep.
Indeed, we are wusses.
Loyalist refugees, mainly of British descent, later called United Empire Loyalists, began leaving at the end of the war whenever transport was available, with considerable loss of property and transfer of wealth. An estimated 70,000 left the thirteen newly independent states, representing about 3% of the total American population, of which 20-30% had supported the Crown during the American War for Independence
As Daniel Bliss of Concord, Massachusetts (who later became a Chief Justice of New Brunswick) stated: "Better to live under one tyrant a thousand miles away, than a thousand tyrants one mile away."
Thanks GW, as usual, for efforts to get people thinking. Sorry not everyone is capable of grasping the use of hyperbole to make a point, or, like, humor.
In fairness, zombies are quite popular.
Use the system you have, instead of hinting at armed insurrection. Get people voting and get them informed and thinking.
The political selection process filters out anyone with ethics, character, honesty, and love of our country when it selects candates to vote for. Then upon running for office, corrupt big funding supports the most compromised candidates. THen upon voting chicago style voting fraud via false registration, multiple voting, dead voting, electonic ballot box trickery, mail in advance voting, absentee voting trickery. Apealing to the dumbest of the electorate with emotional fear. Collectively the US is layers of trickery to elect the most profitable or malable puppet to obey a hidden set of controllers. The system has been broken since Eisenhower till we do not even have an american as president.
congress, the 'supreme' court, the next political candidate, etc are no longer on my radar screen. Elections ? with voting machines that can't be audited ? yeah, right.
This criminal ponzi scam is designed to steal as much from as many of the general public as possible. The psychopaths get off on theft and sadism. Unfortunately, most people have been brainwashed in public 'schools' so are completely naive and clueless sheep among wolves who only see them as prey.
If you have mostly vapid, self-indulgent, self-entitled voters you will have mostly vapid, self-indulgent, self-entitled politicians.
Wait wait, are you saying more than 8% of the American public approve of hemorrhoids? Are there that many proctologists in America? And what is the approval rating of dog poop?
Maybe it's just me, but I would rather step in some Congress than dog poop.
And in Australia its Defence spy agency .. DSD, has been spying on Australians already, and willing to hand over health records and sundry data to the US. Another Snowden release.
NSA has probably already profiled and categorised the population of the US. So when SHTF they will know who to put behind bars.
"Approval" is not part of the equation anymore.... For most of the population.
Also see the 1%
It didn't hurt the king's popularity that the penalty for treason was hanging. So picture this, a guy comes to your door and asks you if you support the king, I think most people would answer in the affirmative.
Careful we may be headed this direction with Gitmo and all the NSA spying BS. Alleviating term limits for the chief would help make this a reality, and then why bother with elections anymore?
Exactly. All of our 'elected' leaders should be chosen by lot. It wouldn't solve all our problems but it would make a huge difference by minimizing the number of sociopaths we have in power.
"So picture this, a guy comes to your door and asks you if you support the king"
I knew some good would come from that 10 years I spent as a professional liar.
What a dumb ass story. The revolutionary war was over 200 years ago, and the population of the 13 colonies was very very small. Stick to the environmental stories, at least those make a certain sense.
Indeed. The ending sucks and the effects aren't very special.
But the book is much better. More interesting, however, are the original source documents, including the Treaty of Paris (1783). In it, King George III proclaims himself as "King of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, Defender of the Faith, Duke of Brunswick and Lunebourg, Arch- Treasurer and Prince Elector of the Holy Roman Empire etc.. and of the United States of America..."
Now, ain't that something? King of France? Wasn't France America's ally during the Revolutionary War? Hmmmm. But what's the real kicker is that he was Arch-Treasurer of the United States of America, i.e. the corporation formed as a partnership between he and the Pope with the Rothschilds financing it as a sub-corporation of the British East India Company.
Do your research.
The fact is, most colonists were loyal to the King and Great Britain and considered them their brothers, because they were, until the King just made life as a colonist untenable. Then the majority turned, just as the King and his advisers expected them to do. They're doing the same thing today that they did back then, and things will continue to get shittier until all of you sideliners finally have had enough. They want you to revolt. They need you to revolt. The New World Order is depending on it.
Shall you play right into their plans?
I am Chumbawamba.
Intruiging post and well written. Are you suggesting the Revolutionary War was planned as a way to institutionalize a central bank with direct ties to then the BoE and Rothschilds?
Basically letting the US think they won, but the fix was in all along? I've read theories that the funding of the Revolutionary War came from the same source, and that most major wars were similarly funded. Is that your take too?
Perhaps its time to go back to smaller more governable regions than this shitstorm known as the USSA:
http://www.debate.org/opinions/should-u-s-be-divided-into-smaller-countries
Like perhaps into a northern half and a southern half... ;)
The percentages of a poll are reflective of public opinion, whether you base them on 100 or 1,0 million respondents.
You would then expect independent candidates to do well then...or can't they do that in the US?
I think people when they get over the blue / Red flag waving begin to see that the whole thing is a con and that both are sides of the same coin beholden to Corporate American only.
And it is not as the Whitehouse or Congress have covered themselves in glory since 2008. Stuffing corporate America with huge sums ... but sweet FA to mainstreet.
And the US is in an economic mess because Congress and POTUS have devoted themselves to looking after Corporate America only. Create a two standard country .. where laws, justice and punishment don't apply to rich and powerful who are able to undertake any and every crime to stuff the pockets...with zero risk.
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It's not going to happen. There are ballot access laws and rules in each state, created by the national one-party system which pretends to be two-party, which create multiple obstacles and roadblocks to getting on the ballot for any candidate who does not bow down and worship the donkey-elephant idol.
Yep, and let's also not forget that the fraudulent Election Commission requires at least 15% polling results (before the fucking election!) in order to participate in the debates.
Highly recommend Youtubing 'Who's afraid of an open debate.'
Very well done mini documentary that lifts the curtain on our shameful presidential elections. The shit is rigged since day 1, no 3rd party has a chance.
Either you get a near 0% voter turnout for an election, or literally every incumbent is replaced by someone else, all 535 of them over the course of all elections, one after the other, or else I don't buy into these surveys. I don't see any other workable options within the system. I have a few choice additional suggestions, but it gets considerably less polite from here....
The Congress can be replaced easily. A few well-placed metal-jacketed implants will cure the problem.
We must remember: The first duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.
Starve The Beast.
Everyone in the US should have the opportunity for public service, once. After that you go home and back to work. No second term, no retirement, no higher office, nothing. Real public service.
When did politics become a full-time job? With full-time Oxford benefits?
To your point, jury duty: you do the time, then go back to work.
The system is so inbred that nothing will ever change until every one of those guys are thrown out, doors shut on the Lobbyists. Till then one can dream and tell each other every 4 years or so, you can masturbate and show that you care. Lost Decade my azz, more like 2 or 3 at this rate.
GW, as a foreigner I can't hide that it's shocking that the US Congress has such a low approval rating. perhaps frightening is the better word
yet isn't it a side issue to the current polarization of US politics? If I understand it correctly, voters are supportive of their congressman (of their district) - a byproduct of homogeneization of districts, both by volutary resettlement and redistricting - and very unhappy about the other congressmen, of the other party/factions
imho it's not necessarily a loss of faith in the institutions as such, and more a way of expressing the feeling that things would be better if the others would not meddle
of course I do not understand properly the South, or the Tea Party or any political faction and movement that isn't currently sharing power. they have been reluctant to ever communicate in a way that foreigners might understand sufficiently. probably by lack of interest, or an other effect of the sheer insularity that US political thinking suffers so often
Our whole system is a joke. Our local Congressman (would probably be considered "Tea Party") is a pretty good bloke. I used to work with him and would certainly meet him for a beer any time. The fact of the matter is, however, that he has zero ability to move an agenda or effect change in Washington D.C. The party leaders control the agenda and they are all totally dependent on the campaign funds from the D.C. Lobbyists. The Democrats are no different except they answer to the unions and professional Left as well as the lobbyists. The TBTF banks have bankrolled the last several Presidential elections (on both sides) and no significant number of politicians in D.C. will cross them. It is a rigged system and proof that democracy can be exploited by the ultra-powerful to gain and keep control. The Roman Republic in its later years taught us this lesson but no one reads history any more.
Ghordius, I have been trying to rid myself of our congressmaggot for 5 years with no success. There is a statewide movement to rid ourselves of one of our senators next year and we will see how much traction they can muster. I am beginning to consider that who counts the votes counts may trump the other variables. Then again, we may just have that many complete idiots among us.
Yeah Ghordius I think you overestimate us. 50% of us don't know who our representatives are. 40% of us no longer care and mayby 10% actually get involved like zhandex.
Fonz, you underestimate the level of ignorance of the 99%. They don't realize that democracy has marginalized them in the quest for Liberty and Independence. There are two types of government and in the history of governments there has only been one which wrote the rules for Independence and Liberty. Independence in this situation means individual independence, not sovereign independence from some Empire (although that was fought for as well). The Constitution of the United States is the first written book of laws and standards that records what it takes to be free from the tyranical oppression of over officious and liberty trampling, big government (in all its forms).
That other form of government is what we have today; representative of the ideals and ambitions of the undeserving bureaucrat. These types were the norm throughout annals of history. Americans re-wrote the playbook. It's a pity that the book of individual liberty, The Constitution and what it takes to maintain this system, has been ignored by the citizenry, it was their only road map to prosperty and freedom. They are now distracted by the liberty crunching voting system which bestows a mandate for one party of bureaucrats to extract goodies from one portion of the population and hand them out to another (usually the bureaucrat). It's like the pony express; every so often they change riders or horses but the story remains the same.
For years, the running joke in the former Soviet Union was "We pretend to work, and they pretend to pay us." Here, it's increasingly "We pretend not to have to work, and they pretend to pay us."
What's the difference? In the end, nothing, as it's only a matter of time before we do precisely what they did: Just say no to a system so dysfunctional that there is no saving it, our miserably failed experiment in federative government spiraling down the same totalitarian drain that theirs did.
And the last thing you want to do is go down the drain with it:
http://readynutrition.com/resources/52-weeks-to-preparedness-an-introduc...
America is dead. Long live America.
fonz, I'm used to operate in many countries, and have to assess at least superficially "how it blows", politically. note that I wrote "voters", not "people"
US politics is a though nut to crack (meaning understand) for me 'cause it's so loud. And so many people make a living by spin
as such, disinterest of a greater majority in anything that has to do with politics is a "green light", for me, and a sign of a stable political environment
note that stable does not automatically mean in any way not corrupt or even not autocratic. some Sultanates and Emirates come to mind
at the end, most small biz and citizens just wish for a stable environment, particularly when it comes to the judiciary. often states achieve success in this by drawing clear lines between what is legal and what is illegal
a friend of mine used to say to this that most punters don't care if the casino is rigged or criminal, as long as the rules of the games don't change during their play
a damn depressing view, I know
Ghordius, there are two choices for changing districts; move to a higher population density (more traffic) or lower density (greater distance). The congressman in my previous district has voted the way I wanted more often than not, but I had an 80 mile one-way trip to work. Put 200K miles on a car in 5 years. When gas hit $1.50 a gallon, I gave up and bought a house 12 miles from work.
zhandax, in order to somewhat test my premise I'd have to ask if there is a different district not too far from you with a congressman that would be acceptable for you
interestingly, Ukraine is hitting the ZH headlines, and there you could see a lot of similar issues in the last years, which led to a greater discussions on the merit of FPTP vs proportional voting systems
one side each favours one of them, the poor "middle" realized it would shift power towards one of them and they compromised on a mixed (fifty/fifty) system
yet changing voting systems is - as far as I understand - unthinkable, for a majority of Americans. another cultural gap I still can't bridge properly