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Call it what you will. Arrogance is overbearing pride, the self-importance of being superior and a public display of haughtiness that knows no bounds. We have the overt showy pride right here in our own back yard in Silicon Valley. The arrogant bigots that have made a fast buck on a techy idea have forgotten first of all where they came from and secondly who made them rich big-shots. The wheel of fortune turns and those at the top come tumbling down, one day. The higher they get, the harder that fall is, as they come crashing to the ground. Trouble is along the way they have amassed so much that they have lost touch with the reality of society. They either want to go it alone in some fake, unreal world that has seceded from the United States or at the very least to keep the poor at bay and scrubbing their floors still. Silicon Valley is cronyism at its ultimate, arrogance at a peak and boundless meritocracy at its best stroke worst.

Poor at Bay

Greg Gopman of AngelHack fame wrote on his wall on Facebook that “the difference is in other cosmopolitan cities, the lower part of society keep to themselves. They sell small trinkets, beg coyly, stay quiet, and generally stay out of your way. They realize it's a privilege to be in the civilized part of town and view themselves as guests. And that's okay”.

It’s a shame that certain people seem to believe that money bestows on them the ability to be bigoted and self-righteous regarding the rights of other human beings. People live in a free society and their poverty has nothing to do with their right to walk along the sidewalk. It’s a shame that Mandela’s death taught him nothing about Apartheid in modern cities these days. It’s not based on just color and creed. But, it’s the money thing that pops out right in your face too today.

The rich get to save on average 15-25% of what they earn. But, they of course get the right to put away what the workers end up spending. Workers spend (that’s the 99% of the US), rather than saving these days.

A New World

There are billionaires that would like to see the construction of brave new worlds in which entrepreneurs have the space and the comfort to “peacefully test ideas for government” (The Seasteading Institute), floating cities, where there will be a “blueprint for a new way of life – one that is more equitable, tolerant ad entrepreneurial”.

That’s just as long as you are one of the rich few. Pure Hollywood motion picture becoming reality.

They want to be able to build societies, cities that float off the coast of the US. Just near enough to be dropped from the helicopters and the private jets; but just far away enough to see the poor masses swimming over if they need to take cover and protect themselves. Government doesn’t need the techies to think up new ideas to change the way they govern us. They are doing pretty well all on their own thinking of new ways to keep the people down.

The Jungle

Naturally, the poor people that Gopman wanted to see on the other side of town where those that live in The Jungle.

  • It’s the Silicon Valley eyesore; the place where people live in encampments.
  • The USA has seen its homeless figures fall by 17% over the past 2 years.
  • Silicon Valley increased by 8%.
  • There are 7, 600 people that are sleeping rough and homeless every night in the Valley.

Once upon a time it was the banksters that were reviled for their aloofness and towering over the poor people with their millions. Now, they have become so commonplace that it’s the techies that are getting the flack, assailed with abusive language. Trivializing the situation and the poverty of the majority will never get you very far.

The techies have turned their Silicon Valley into the Promised Land and they are the gods.

It’s the techsters now that are taking over from the banksters.

The United States has been divvied up between the grubby ideas of the political leaders already that have ensured that the poor and the people in the middle class get no look in on what is being decided. We know from research that Senators and Representatives see little effect on them brought about by the bottom third of the strata of society. There’s no surprise that people are demoralized by what’s going on in the country and disinterested in politics.

The politicians stopped listening to people many years ago. Now, the country pie is being cut up and doled out yet again by the handful of arrogant masters of Silicon Valley. Profiteers and privateers are the ruling class.

But, in the mainstream of society there are people that are living like dogs. The only thing that the arrogant techies should take heed of is that dogs usually have nasty bites at some point.

Originally posted: The Arrogance of Silicon Valley

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Fri, 12/20/2013 - 20:41 | 4265715 GumbyMe
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Regardless of how one feels about Silicon Valley and the people that live there, tech geeks and etc., what the above article points to is an ever growing divide between the rich and poor, that is relatively of course, and the division this creates between various classes of people. In the end, there will be no winners, only losers, because class warfare knows no boundaries.

Fri, 12/20/2013 - 14:56 | 4264716 snarkolepsy
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"And I think if you've ever spent anytime in Silicon Valley doing the "entrepeneurial thing", it is endless string of failures and near misses that really makes SV work. "

 

I'm getting the idea you don't live here and write only about things you read on the internet. EVERYONE in Silicon Valley has worked for at least one startup. I worked at Apple in the early days. So eff you. Things were completely different then. I think jobs is an asshole. That's how early days I am. You are jsut throwing our buzzwords.

 

A better use of your time would be to find out how to get these people off the streets. Something San Fransisco unsuccessfully tried for the better part of a decade. We spent untold amounts of money. A lot of these people are URBAN campers. We give them money for DOGS! Just hand them money. We make it so they can sell the food and toys the government gives them for DOGS. They are the most pampered and entitled group you can imagine. Next to the Berkeley ones.

 

Additionally by attacking people who are telling the truth you enable the horrible conditions people in SF live with. You are part of the problem.

Fri, 12/20/2013 - 15:16 | 4264809 snarkolepsy
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http://www.examiner.com/article/homeless-problem-becomes-homeless-crisis

Read and learn. This is in 2010. The homeless problem is even worse now.

Fri, 12/20/2013 - 14:20 | 4264560 KingTut
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While this article brings up some good points, it is really just a snarky, self-righteous criticism of young people with more money than they know what to do with.  That they are arrogant is just part of human nature.  Perhaps you wish young people came out of the womb wise with a grand view of the human condition, but I don't live on that planet.  SV is full of successful older guys who are not anywhere near as arrogant as, say, a Goldman Sachs VP.

Steve Jobs is rapidly becoming the go to guy for Silicon Valley paradigms.  His early days were not unlike many SV entrepeneurs who came, made a fortune, made a mistake and are now people we no longer talk about.   Steve's real success came after a truly humiliating failure.  And that failure forged his resolve and his approach to success.  If you've ever tried to manage computer programmers, then you know it was his aggressive approach to management that is THE ONLY WAY to get high quality products out of those guys.  "Yes, I'm a total asshole, but it's my way or the highway."  That's not arrogance, that's confidence that you are right, which he was.

And I think if you've ever spent anytime in Silicon Valley doing the "entrepeneurial thing", it is endless string of failures and near misses that really makes SV work.  A few get lucky and hit one out of the park the first time at bat.  Yes, they're smart, but EVERYBODY in silicon valley is smart.  They are just lucky.  God save us from guys like the Google twins, Zuckerberg, Elon Musk and even Bill Gates who want to rebuild the world in their image; they are more lucky than good.  

However, Pivotfarm seems to think you can get iPhones without colataeral damage.  Innovation is messy, and there is a lot of human disappointment littering the streets of Palo Alto.  The majority of the world is not even remotely innovative, yet Silicon Valley keeps doing it over and over.  It's messy but has changed world several times in the last 50 years. 

 

Fri, 12/20/2013 - 14:17 | 4264495 jballz
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Jesus you people are a lost cause. You spend half your time bitching about the abuse of the rich at the hands of the poor and the other half bitching about everybody who has made it in any way that you personally are not capable of doing. Which is everything, because you cannot spend 100% of your time bitching and make any money.

Why don't you learn how to write code, get a good job, and then don't be an asshole, and then you are part of the solution.

Or just keep fucking complaining. I'm getting away from this site before I end up poverty stricken and jaded like the rest of you.

Get a fuckin life OP, or get off the fucking internet if you don't like tech. Kind of ridiculously ironic that this worthless product is your sole venue.

Fri, 12/20/2013 - 13:36 | 4264280 jm
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It is obvious this article doesn't contain even the slightest clue about the Bay area. Please STFU about cities you merely fly over.

Fri, 12/20/2013 - 13:18 | 4264205 snarkolepsy
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You are so completely off base here. San Fransisco homeless are the most deeply poor you can imagine. But it isn't because we don't care for them. San Fransisco invites them from all over the country with the best services you can imagine. THEY EVEN GET DOGS and the city gives them a stipend of 50-75 dollar per week for the animals for everything to checkups, toys, leashes and veterinary.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/13/dogs-for-the-homeless_n_1594811.html

 

I'd wager SF has the most homeless of any State due to the weather. And they are super aggressive. Think India. You literally can not walk one one half of one block without being hussled for money. It is NOT safe. Especially at night.

This post is about class warfare and nothing else because you don't know what you are talking about.

Fri, 12/20/2013 - 13:36 | 4264295 midtowng
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BTW, I live in San Francisco and you obviously don't know what you are talking about.

Fri, 12/20/2013 - 13:37 | 4264284 midtowng
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Techies are more in denial than anyone else. When things turn sour, and they will soon, the techies will lose their money. The banksters know the score. They will survive long after the techies starve.

Fri, 12/20/2013 - 12:56 | 4264100 carbonmutant
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After having spent 40 years doing business in the valley I think I can safely say that the current attitudes by the alpha geeks in that valley predated the arrival of the Google class Billionaires...

Zuckerberg is an icon of what every entrepreneur in that valley wanted to be.

Tech is a very strong drug... and like coke it makes you believe you can do things other people can't do. It makes you believe you're better... But in the end you're just another cog in the wheel...

Fri, 12/20/2013 - 12:12 | 4263915 RenegadeAnalyst
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Whiles there is defintely truth to what our politicians are doing, the majority of this article sounds like a commie rant by a jeaolous mooch.

Fri, 12/20/2013 - 12:00 | 4263896 Lordflin
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Here is a news flash for you... the bankers are still the reviled class...

Fri, 12/20/2013 - 13:22 | 4263824 silentboom
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This is true of any aloof group in society who look down their nose and say "eww" when they see a dirty guy laying on the sidewalk.  I think what's key is that these techies are Californians!  Hard core leftist liberals for the most part and so this would make sense that they are seperated from reality and living among the privledged with the help of government fiat.  I'm a techy (CTO) in another state and I'm a hard core anarcho-cap libertarian who is very grounded.  I don't think it's the "tech" part that you should be looking at.

Fri, 12/20/2013 - 13:28 | 4264248 chumbawamba
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You're a pompous, self-aggrandizing douchebag.  You'd fit in well in Silly-con Valley.

I am Chumbawamba.

Fri, 12/20/2013 - 13:35 | 4263785 michael_engineer
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Merry Christmas everybody.  Speaking of Silicon Valley, this new suite of apps was mostly developed there by a single developer : http://logicenginedesigns.com.  No corporate arrogance "inside" as he was pretty much living out of his truck, staying in motels on El Camino Real, and hanging out near Cupertino trying to learn and build skills in mobile programming.

The free version makes a great Christmas present.  The app has been approved my Moms with Apps (http://momswithapps.com/members) and it lets you do dozens of unique and fun things that you have never done before that are intuitive, intellectualy stimulating, creative and extremely visually appealing.

Everybody out there is looking for a good Christmas gift.  This could be just what some of the ZH readers are looking for.  It's simple in ways and not "commercialized", yet elegant, exquisite, and aesthetic.

Here is a link to the free version/free Christmas present : https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/icanmorph3/id736763181?mt=8&ign-mpt=uo%3...

Please don't slam me for spam because this is free (and there is a tie in to this articles topic) and I am sure that several ZH readers will find this as a useful way to brighten some children's Christmas, whether that reader is poor and can't afford much for presents, or whether they are well to do.  Either way, the gift has value due to it's uniqueness.  Many parents will spend some quality time with their children exploring the unique controls, beat frequencies, morphing possibilities, and unique patterns that are possible to view.  You don't even have to run out to the store to get it, so it's a very green way of celebrating and giving.

 I frown on spam too, but my track record here at ZH over these past years has been very insightful.  If you've appreciated some of my insights over the years, then please check this out.  If you really need your down arrow fix today, there are several other postings nearby of questionable value that may be better targets of opportunity.  But these are not the droids you are looking for.  They may go about their business.  Move along.

Any long time ZH readers curious enough to download, "kick the tires", and provide a reply/comment?  You might be surprised and find enough merit to pass on the recommendation for the free present to a friend, especially if they have children.

To pique your curiiousity, I was at a meetup in San Fran where the prototype of this app was pitched 6 months ago.  An asian software developer in the audience commented that he thought his rich uncle would buy each of his nieces and nephews an iPad just so they could have this app.  Best --

Fri, 12/20/2013 - 10:35 | 4263594 Stuck on Zero
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What a pile of crap.

 

Fri, 12/20/2013 - 10:58 | 4263676 Jumbotron
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Wrong.....there is truth here.

This is what you get when you have a collection of wizards making magic which is transforming an ENTIRE world.......and in doing such....they are made rich beyond the dreams of kings.

We have an ABUNDANCE of myths and allegories and epic stories throughout time and spanning all cultures speaking about what happens when you combine unlimited wealth and hubris.

The stories never end well.

Fri, 12/20/2013 - 10:13 | 4263528 Joe Davola
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Workers spend (that’s the 99% of the US)...

Addendum:  99% of the 47% who actually work.

Fri, 12/20/2013 - 11:15 | 4261992 gdogus erectus
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There are many groups of assholes in this country, including most law makers, upper level bankers, politicians and mercs but singling out Silicon Valley engineers is a big miss. Don't get me wrong, the googles, microsofts and faceplants all get their top spots filled with the evil cronies' butt boys but the rest of us are just hard working, semi-asbergers, looking for love. There happens to be a slightly higher level of awake and aware here because you can point out to an engineer that planes don't do u-turns in the sky when proving that Chemtrails are real. Or point to Engineers For Truth, etc.

Homeless? Yeah, it's warm here and there's lots of soup kitchens.

Fri, 12/20/2013 - 11:44 | 4263845 silentboom
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True, just look at Washington, Sodom and Gomorrah on the Potomac.

Thu, 12/19/2013 - 17:49 | 4261909 MeBizarro
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If you want to quickly learn what someone is like, get them drunk and see what comes out.  That is closer to their true nature. 

Same is when you go out in public to a restaurant.  Varies upon the culture considerably given norms though.  In the US or Western European, if someone treats people at a restaurant belligernetly especially for no good reason and is a cheap tipper especially at an expensive place, I almost guarantee that person is a scumbag. 

Fri, 12/20/2013 - 11:06 | 4263711 Jumbotron
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Yep....you're right MeBizzaro.

Just get a load of this article about what one reporter saw when a bunch of Wall Streeters went to see the premiere of "The Wolf of Wall Street" at a theatre right by Goldman Sachs headquarters........sad, but true.

 

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/saw-wolf-wall-street-bunch-160915591.html

 

 

Fri, 12/20/2013 - 14:28 | 4264607 MeelionDollerBogus
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the Orcs cheered on Saruman at his own gates, in the shadow of the Great Squid Eye(s)...
shocking.

Thu, 12/19/2013 - 18:27 | 4262035 Boris Alatovkrap
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All people is vomits mass when drunk. What is point? Bring living organism to toxicity level of oxygen deprivation and any body is to act strange. Maybe tell more about person by abstinence from libation than what is say drunk?

Thu, 12/19/2013 - 17:32 | 4261834 are we there yet
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Financial capital follows intellectual capital. Brains and skill produce value. Get used to it, all people are not created with equal intllects, or anything else. Homeless people are sad but in some way they are just lacking what it takes to prosper. Perhaps it is health, substance abuse, native intellect, imbeded character flaws, etc.., but it is not a problem caused by silicon valley.

Thu, 12/19/2013 - 17:43 | 4261893 MeBizarro
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No but he was an ignoramus who doesn't know what the hell he was talking and was just ranting.  Funny thing is that it wasn't nothing new in the least and you could find the exact same thing being said in 19th century London or in 18th century Paris. 

Thu, 12/19/2013 - 17:27 | 4261815 MeBizarro
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It is the Rich vs Poor.  Always has been, always will be.  The only difference is what they call themselves and the other thigns they focus on to divide the haves and have nots and how easy it is to move up. 

Thu, 12/19/2013 - 17:22 | 4261796 DollarMenu
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Slightly askew of the topic, but relating to the geographic/demographic profiled,

this interesting take by the entitled on the SF Transit strike:

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2013/10/dont-disrupt-the-disruptors/

Thu, 12/19/2013 - 18:22 | 4262018 nightshiftsucks
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The link was a waste of 30 seconds of my life,what a douche bag.Most people who use bart aren't rich.Also if the dumb fuck new anything he would know that at the moment bart only goes to Fremont,not the heart of Silicon valley.If I saw that guy on the street I would beat his liberal pussy ass. It was about money,plus those assholes get benefits that I will never get.Hey everbody lets start paying everyone based on how expensive the area instead of how difficult the job is.Shit should have been a bart cop,those guys make bank.

Thu, 12/19/2013 - 17:13 | 4261752 Son of Captain Nemo
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The Arrogance of Silicon Valley" to be short lived...  Would be a more apt title.

Don't agree with the author that these guys still have the hubris they once possessed -oh say 14 years ago.  That train came and went with all of the .coms and if Silicon Valley owes there inflated wealth and opinion of themselves it was the bankers and the Federal Government that granted them that dubious distinction.

Take it from one that was in the center of that beautiful ride to the top in the mid-90's that worked for an up and coming internet standout that took the "steroid cocktail" and in less than 2 years went from a 1.5 billion fledgling internet concern to a 42 billion Corporation that owned it's own fiber and supported the likes of Microsoft's network in the space of less than 3 years.  Just remember what happened to the likes of Cisco, Nortel, Juniper, Foundry and so many others after they facilitated the growth of this national to international business transformation?

Who helped facilitate the financial promotion and growth of that concern and it's rapid rise "to the top"? Why Solomon Brothers of course.  As soon as SB financial engineering's internet team came to town and displaced all of the humble talent that built it, the small and very innovative internet Company who's founder(s) made it so successful were either bought out or left voluntarily because the handwriting was on the wall.  I call them "financial engineering" because these internetworking engineers from Manhattan were technically some of the most incompetent individuals in their niche and would end up ruining just about everything they added on to that network.  What suffered the most almost immediately was the delivery of service that was based on the false numbers and profits that you see today everywhere you look in the housing and financial markets.  From “Day 1” they couldn't keep up because it was never about legitimate business service to it's clients, it was about stock price.  If any of you out there remember the Frame Relay meltdown that lasted several days it was the beginning of the end for this Company.

By 2001 after the "big event" what happened next is for the history books.

More consolidation and the scandal of all scandal(s) that landed and ex-basketball coach turned CEO of that Company in prison for allegedly being the “mastermind” at that time of one of the most expensive fraud case in U.S. history. By the end of 2002 the old consolidated RBOCs aka AT&T and MCI/Verizon with the love and support of the Feds ushered in their important work in helping to make communications safe and effective in the new global "war on terror". 

If you were wondering why no business executives from Solomon Brothers went to jail along with the “basketball coach” you have to recall that all the evidence was severely compromised in that 47 story building’s collapse due to “terrorists”.

Hope you enjoyed the stroll.                                                      

 

Thu, 12/19/2013 - 16:57 | 4261706 SmittyinLA
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they Nor Cal liberal assholes, they vote for mass criminal invasion, then vote to restrict housing, then vote to make everybody buy healthcare for illegal aliens, they're scum, they deserve to be eaten by their children 

Thu, 12/19/2013 - 16:31 | 4261620 Gringo Viejo
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As JG Wentworth is wont to say.......

"It's your money........."

Thu, 12/19/2013 - 15:27 | 4261441 LongPAU
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Can you please clarify? You're saying high-wage engineers are all assholes because some nobody from a no-name company has the ethics and social grace of a rotten cabbage? Is that correct?

 

Or, do you think it "news" that computer engineers aren't very personable?

Thu, 12/19/2013 - 16:55 | 4261689 Reference Variable
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The problem is that most of it's fluff. It's a bubble funded by easy money. There is no value to what many of these companies produce and some of the stockholders/employees, predictably, are acting like entitled assholes. I don't think the beef is exclusively against tech.

Thu, 12/19/2013 - 17:28 | 4261824 Freddie
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It is worse than that Dude.  I am amazed that more ZH'ers do not talk about this.  You know that Obama's algos and HFT through the Fed are all programmed to use Fed money to pump the stocks of his allies.

They all gave money and all of their stocks are being pumped including dogshit Facebook, Tweeter and Yahoo along with the rest.  It is so obvious.

Thu, 12/19/2013 - 16:33 | 4261625 Wyatt Junker
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No.  Its none of those things.  Didn't you see the roundtable of Lambda Lambda Lambdas at the White House this week, fawning over Bronco Bama? 

Sickly, obsequious fucks. 

You ever see Eric Schmidt's slimy face?  Its wet.  All the time.  Why?  Its like a slow drip water system. 

Zuckerboy.  Not him.  But the second-in-command bitch.  She was all HAHAHAHAHAHA knee slapping next to Blammo, just sucking his tiny pole. 

The Yahoo bitch. 

All of them.  Just premier assholes. 

The Zynga maggot was there too.

Lackey meffers in all their glory, hob nobbing with the NIC, pretending that their 'work' is genius when most of them just lucked out. 

When the EMP goes off, they won't even know how to change an oil filter because there's no way to do it digitally. 

Fri, 12/20/2013 - 14:39 | 4264642 MeelionDollerBogus
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we'll just shove the holes in the wires full of bitcoinz until the fibres hold the photons back in!
oh wait...

Thu, 12/19/2013 - 17:28 | 4261812 Freddie
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+1

They are all haughty like John Kerry Kohn.  All of Silicon Valley is on the take from MIC and Uncle Sam.  I hope all of their businesses gets destroyed because they are all spying for Obama.   The Yahoo bitch worked for Obama in raising money or something.  Yahoo cannot even run an email server.

Thu, 12/19/2013 - 16:45 | 4261654 zipit
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RE: "pretending that their 'work' is genius when most of them just lucked out." BINGO!

Fri, 12/20/2013 - 10:41 | 4263614 ElvisDog
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"pretending that their 'work' is genius when most of them just lucked out."

I occasionally visit Mountain View, CA, and you can observe that first hand in the upscale bars and restaurants on Castro St. They are full of 20-somethings who think they are Kings and Queens of the world when what they really do if you boil it down to its essence is largely give people another way to waste time or spend money.

Fri, 12/20/2013 - 11:31 | 4263774 Dr. Bonzo
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Same over here in Hong Kong. Office tower canyons full of the young and entitled Patrick Bateman Wanna-bes. What's worse is, after '08 legions of financial firm flimflam refugees from the London and NY cataclysm fled to these regions... and then after the Japan tsunami in '11 JPM, Goldman and Deutsche dumped even more of their scumbag shyster brokers traders scammers and swindlers on this side of the water... forget about the toxic air... the sidewalks are posolutely absotively crawling with banker scum.

 

Break out the motherfuckin guillotines already.

Thu, 12/19/2013 - 17:24 | 4261799 MeBizarro
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They are geniuses for the most part especially Zuckerberg and Mayer.  Of course there is 'luck' in what they did and when they created it but to not acknowledge that they are very bright people and in Zuckerberg's case created a very unique product is just foolish.  You lose all crediblity. 

Fri, 12/20/2013 - 14:45 | 4264663 MeelionDollerBogus
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#1 stole, not created. That much is very clear.
#2 very unique product: no, it was just another myspace.
Once enough people felt like sticking to one site, regardless of what it was, could have been any site, the quality OF the interface completely went to shit.
No longer could you move boxes around for your chosen interface features, no longer could you control & delete every item, and your privacy, no longer could you even play the games that first started as they were removed and new crap was added.
faceplant turned to garbage because it was the only way to keep everyone's information unprotected & massively collected.
Deleted mine years ago.

Thu, 12/19/2013 - 17:32 | 4261829 MeBizarro
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I guess this comment pissed off some of the posters on here.  Good.  Zuckerberg is 'smarter' than me and I'm pretty sure Mayer is too.  You aren't able to do what they did academically/professionally especially Mayer's work at Stanford. 

Sun, 12/22/2013 - 21:17 | 4264699 MeelionDollerBogus
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stealing other people's business & selling their information illegally to the espionage military industrial complex is something I choose not to do.
I'm able but to do so is to demand a first in line spot for the guillotines when the revolution comes.
Not smart at all.

Absolutely not one part of what you're referring to is academic or professional.

Facebook also deigned to block any posting I put on it when it was pre-IPO with hard facts released about the IPO's massive fraud with massive over-investment & poor accounting of private dollars via Goldman Sachs indicating hidden money that amounted to money laundering. Not my claims, just the claims of Max Keiser with numbers to back up the claims - mere re-postings.

Block, block, block - can't have the truth exposed.

Oh, and by the way, for those lucky FB stock holders who can't seem to get their questions answered for the investor quarterly calls, your calls are filtered. Each company, e.g., Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, etc., permitted to ask a question dials in a special number & no one else even has a chance to ask a question dailing in on the other number. Zero chance.

Fri, 12/20/2013 - 12:18 | 4263967 adr
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I went to school with the forerunners of these pricks. The Dotcom1.0 class. I can tell you they are not smart. Just the overpriviledged spoiled stock of rich daddy who believe they are entitled to riches without having to work for them. They never went to class, skipped exams and threatened lawsuits against the University if anyone dared question them. A lot of these assholes lived like kings for a couple years, then the bubble burst and left many of them penniless. 

Have you listed to one of Zuckerberg's speaches? There is not a single word uttered with any meaning. It's all bullshit. He's never held a real job and never had to work for anything, so he has no ability to understand what it takes to run a real business.

Zuckerberg did nothing to create the Facebook you see today. The seed money came from a source the unconnected can not tap. Government sponsored angel investors. The only thing he made was a webpage where frat boys could comment on the hotness of the girls pictures in the online Facebook. Harvard, MIT, CMU, etc used to give every freshman student a Facebook. Pictures and names off all the students in the class to help the kids that were the dorks of thier high school with no friends meet people. The first thing the upper classmen did was get thier hands on a Facebook to survey the stock of fresh meat and give rankings to the girls. There is your $100 billion company.

Meyer, Zuckerberg, and just about any one of the Silicon Valley set couldn't run a real company producing productive goods if thier life depended on it. They couldn't run the smallest factory in Shanghai. They'd fail in days. You can't run a real company burning through hundreds of millions while giving your product away for free.

Thu, 12/19/2013 - 17:53 | 4261923 Boris Alatovkrap
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Sure, perhaps maybe Zuckerberg is "smarter", but maybe is not so much smart but totally void of scruple that is key for success in new USSA economy. Strangely is familiar formula of success in USSR and all other totalitarian regime steeped in crony class favoritism. Not the value you are make, but ability to extract value from those around. More is heartless, more can extract from citizenry and become big P O S C E O.

Thu, 12/19/2013 - 17:29 | 4261816 Suisse
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Yahoo is doing poorly and propped up by Alibaba. Facebook was just a rehash of Myspace. 

Thu, 12/19/2013 - 17:40 | 4261881 MeBizarro
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Facebook wasn't simply a rehash of Myspace and what does Mayer's ability as an executive at Google/Yahoo have to do with her overall intelligence directly?

Fri, 12/20/2013 - 15:30 | 4264902 MeelionDollerBogus
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I used both.
Rehash 100%.

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