Judge Falls for The Big Lie About NSA Spying

George Washington's picture

In finding the NSA’s metadata collection program legal today, Judge William Pauley III ruled:

The September 11th terrorist attacks revealed, in the starkest terms, just how dangerous and interconnected the world is. While Americans depended on technology for the conveniences of modernity, al-Qaeda plotted in a seventh-century milieu to use that technology against us. It was a bold jujitsu. And it succeeded because conventional intelligence gathering could not detect diffuse filaments connecting al-Qaeda.


Prior to the September 11th attacks, the National Security Agency (“NSA”) intercepted seven calls made by hijacker Khalid al-Mihdhar, who was living in San Diego, California, to an al-Qaeda safe house in Yemen. The NSA intercepted those calls using overseas signals intelligence capabilities that could not capture al-Mihdhar’s telephone number identifier. Without that identifier, NSA analysts concluded mistakenly that al-Mihdhar was overseas and not in the United States. Telephony metadata would have furnished the missing information and might have permitted the NSA to notify the Federal Bureau of Investigation (“FBI”) of the fact that al-Mihdhar was calling the Yemeni safe house from inside the United States.


The Government learned from its mistake and adapted to confront a new enemy: a terror network capable of orchestrating attacks across the world. It launched a number of counter-measures, including a bulk telephony metadata collection program—a wide net that could find and isolate gossamer contacts among suspected terrorists in an ocean of seemingly disconnected data.


This blunt tool only works because it collects everything. Such a program, if unchecked, imperils the civil liberties of every citizen. Each time someone in the United States makes or receives a telephone call, the telecommunications provider makes a record of when, and to what telephone number the call was placed, and how long it lasted. The NSA collects that telephony metadata. If plumbed, such data can reveal a rich profile of every individual as well as a comprehensive record of people’s associations with one another.

Judge Pauley is uninformed … and he fell for the “big lie” behind NSA spying.

Bill Binney – the high-level NSA executive who created the agency’s mass surveillance program for digital information, senior technical director within the agency who managed thousands of NSA employees, interviewed by CBS, ABC, CNN, New York Times, USA Today, Fox News, PBS and many others -  told Washington’s Blog:

[NSA chief Keith] Alexander wants you and everybody (including this clueless judge) to believe that caller ID does not work. First of all, all the calls that are made in the world are routed by machines. And, with machines, you have to tell them exactly what to do. Which means, the routing instructions calling nr and called nr have to be passed through the machines to route the call to get from point A to point B in the world.


So, he is feeding everyone a line of crap. If you buy into this, I have a bridge I would like to sell.


Also, all calls going from one region of the world to another are preceded by 01 or 011 in region “1″ (US/Canada/some islands) or by “00″ in the rest of the world. And that goes both ways on any call.


The Public Switch Telephone Network (PSTN) numbering plan is how we could eliminate all US to US calls right up front and never take them in.

In other words, while Binney headed NSA’s global digital communications gathering efforts prior to 9/11, his team knew in real-time which countries calls were made from and received in.  The NSA is lying if it claims otherwise.

ProPublica notes:

There were plenty of opportunities without having to rely on this metadata system for the FBI and intelligence agencies to have located Mihdhar,” says former Senator Bob Graham, the Florida Democrat who extensively investigated 9/11 as chairman of the Senate’s intelligence committee.


These missed opportunities are described in detail in the joint congressional report produced by Graham and his colleagues as well as in the 9/11 Commission report.




Mihdhar was on the intelligence community’s radar at least as early as 1999. That’s when the NSA had picked up communications from a “terrorist facility” in the Mideast suggesting that members of an “operational cadre” were planning to travel to Kuala Lumpur in January 2000, according to the commission report. The NSA picked up the first names of the members, including a “Khalid.” The CIA identified him as Khalid al Mihdhar.


The U.S. got photos of those attending the January 2000 meeting in Malaysia, including of Mihdhar, and the CIA also learned that his passport had a visa for travel to the U.S.




Using their true names, Mihdhar and Hazmi for a time beginning in May 2000 even lived with an active FBI informant in San Diego.




Let’s turn to the comments of FBI Director Robert Mueller before the House Judiciary Committee last week.


Mueller noted that intelligence agencies lost track of Mihdhar following the January 2000 Kuala Lumpur meeting but at the same time had identified an “Al Qaida safe house in Yemen.”


He continued: “They understood that that Al Qaida safe house had a telephone number but they could not know who was calling into that particular safe house. We came to find out afterwards that the person who had called into that safe house was al Mihdhar, who was in the United States in San Diego. If we had had this [metadata] program in place at the time we would have been able to identify that particular telephone number in San Diego.”


In turn, the number would have led to Mihdhar and potentially disrupted the plot, Mueller argued.

(Media accounts indicate that the “safe house” was actually the home of Mihdhar’s father-in-law, himself a longtime al Qaida figure, and that the NSA had been intercepting calls to the home for several years.)


The congressional 9/11 report sheds some further light on this episode, though in highly redacted form.


The NSA had in early 2000 analyzed communications between a person named “Khaled” and “a suspected terrorist facility in the Middle East,” according to this account. But, crucially, the intelligence community “did not determine the location from which they had been made.”


In other words, the report suggests, the NSA actually picked up the content of the communications between Mihdhar and the “Yemen safe house” but was not able to figure out who was calling or even the phone number he was calling from.




Theories about the metadata program aside, it’s not clear why the NSA couldn’t or didn’t track the originating number of calls to Yemen it was already listening to.


Intelligence historian Matthew Aid, who wrote the 2009 NSA history Secret Sentry, says that the agency would have had both the technical ability and legal authority to determine the San Diego number that Mihdhar was calling from.


Back in 2001 NSA was routinely tracking the identity of both sides of a telephone call,” [9/11 Commission Executive Director Philip Zelikow] told ProPublica.




There’s another wrinkle in the Mihdhar case: In the years after 9/11, media reports also suggested that there were multiple calls that went in the other direction: from the house in Yemen to Mihdhar in San Diego. But the NSA apparently also failed to track where those calls were going.


In 2005, the Los Angeles Times quoted unnamed officials saying the NSA had well-established legal authority before 9/11 to track calls made from the Yemen number to the U.S. In that more targeted scenario, a metadata program vacumming the phone records of all Americans would appear to be unnecessary.

And see this PBS special, and this ACLU comment.

Indeed, the NSA and other U.S. government agencies had been spying on Midhar for a long time before 9/11.

Initially, an FBI informant hosted and rented a room to Mihdhar and another 9/11 hijacker in 2000.

Investigators for the Congressional Joint Inquiry discovered that an FBI informant had hosted and even rented a room to two hijackers in 2000 and that, when the Inquiry sought to interview the informant, the FBI refused outright, and then hid him in an unknown location, and that a high-level FBI official stated these blocking maneuvers were undertaken under orders from the White House.

As the New York Times notes:

Senator Bob Graham, the Florida Democrat who is a former chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, accused the White House on Tuesday of covering up evidence ….The accusation stems from the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s refusal to allow investigators for a Congressional inquiry and the independent Sept. 11 commission to interview an informant, Abdussattar Shaikh, who had been the landlord in San Diego of two Sept. 11 hijackers.

Moreover, Wikipedia notes:

Mihdhar was placed on a CIA watchlist on August 21, 2001, and a note was sent on August 23 to the Department of State and the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) suggesting that Mihdhar and Hazmi be added to their watchlists.




On August 23, the CIA informed the FBI that Mihdhar had obtained a U.S. visa in Jeddah. The FBI headquarters received a copy of the Visa Express application from the Jeddah embassy on August 24, showing the New York Marriott as Mihdhar’s destination.


On August 28, the FBI New York field office requested that a criminal case be opened to determine whether Mihdhar was still in the United States, but the request was refused. The FBI ended up treating Mihdhar as an intelligence case, which meant that the FBI’s criminal investigators could not work on the case, due to the barrier separating intelligence and criminal case operations. An agent in the New York office sent an e-mail to FBI headquarters saying, “Whatever has happened to this, someday someone will die, and the public will not understand why we were not more effective and throwing every resource we had at certain ‘problems.’” The reply from headquarters was, “we [at headquarters] are all frustrated with this issue … [t]hese are the rules. NSLU does not make them up.”


The FBI contacted Marriott on August 30, requesting that they check guest records, and on September 5, they reported that no Marriott hotels had any record of Mihdhar checking in. The day before the attacks, the New York office requested that the Los Angeles FBI office check all local Sheraton Hotels, as well as Lufthansa and United Airlines bookings, because those were the two airlines Mihdhar had used to enter the country. Neither the Treasury Department’s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network nor the FBI’s Financial Review Group, which have access to credit card and other private financial records, were notified about Mihdhar prior to September 11.




Army Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer and Congressman Curt Weldon alleged in 2005 that the Defense Department data mining project Able Danger identified Mihdhar and 3 other 9/11 hijackers as members of an al-Qaeda cell in early 2000.

We reported in 2008:

The U.S. government heard the 9/11 plans from the hijackers’ own mouth. Most of what we wrote about involved the NSA and other intelligence services tapping top Al Qaeda operatives’ phone calls outside the U.S.


However, as leading NSA expert James Bamford – the Washington Investigative Producer for ABC’s World News Tonight with Peter Jennings for almost a decade, winner of a number of journalism awards for coverage national security issues, whose articles have appeared in dozens of publications, including cover stories for the New York Times Magazine, Washington Post Magazine, and the Los Angeles Times Magazine, and the only author to write any books (he wrote 3) on the NSA – reports, the NSA was also tapping the hijackers’ phone calls inside the U.S.


Specifically, hijackers Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi lived in San Diego, California, for 2 years before 9/11. Numerous phone calls between al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi in San Diego and a high-level Al Qaeda operations base in Yemen were made in those 2 years.


The NSA had been tapping and eavesdropping on all calls made from that Yemen phone for years. So NSA recorded all of these phone calls.


Indeed, the CIA knew as far back as 1999 that al-Mihdhar was coming to the U.S. Specifically, in 1999, CIA operatives tailing al-Mihdhar in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, obtained a copy of his passport. It contained visas for both Malaysia and the U.S., so they knew it was likely he would go from Kuala Lumpur to America.

NSA veteran Bill Binney previously told Washington’s Blog:

Of course they could have and did have data on hijackers before 9/11. And, Prism did not start until 2007. But they could get the data from the “Upstream” collection. This is the Mark Klein documentation of Narus equipment in the NSA room in San Francisco and probably other places in the lower 48. They did not need Prism to discover that. Prism only suplemented the “Upstream” material starting in 2007 according to the slide.

Details here and here.

Another high-level NSA whistleblower – Thomas Drake – testified in a declaration last year that an NSA pilot program he and Binney directed:

Revealed the extent of the connections that the NSA had within its data prior to the [9/11] attacks. The NSA found the array of potential connections among the data that it already possessed to be potentially embarrassing. To avoid that embarrassment, the NSA suppressed the results of the pilot program. I had been told that the NSA had chosen not to pursue [the program] as one of its methods for combatting terrorism. Instead, the NSA had previously chosen to delegate the development of a new program, named “Trailblazer” to a group of outside contractors.

Moreover, widespread spying on Americans began before 9/11 (confirmed here, here, here, here and here.

And U.S. and allied intelligence heard the 9/11 hijackers plans from their own mouths:

  • The National Security Agency and the FBI were each independently listening in on the phone calls between the supposed mastermind of the attacks and the lead hijacker. Indeed, the FBI built its own antenna in Madagascar specifically to listen in on the mastermind’s phone calls
  • According to various sources, on the day before 9/11, the mastermind told the lead hijacker “tomorrow is zero hour” and gave final approval for the attacks. The NSA intercepted the message that day and the FBI was likely also monitoring the mastermind’s phone calls
  • According to the Sunday Herald, two days before 9/11, Bin Laden called his stepmother and told her “In two days, you’re going to hear big news and you’re not going to hear from me for a while.” U.S. officials later told CNN that “in recent years they’ve been able to monitor some of bin Laden’s telephone communications with his [step]mother. Bin Laden at the time was using a satellite telephone, and the signals were intercepted and sometimes recorded.” Indeed, before 9/11, to impress important visitors, NSA analysts would occasionally play audio tapes of bin Laden talking to his stepmother.
  • And according to CBS News, at 9:53 a.m on 9/11, just 15 minutes after the hijacked plane had hit the Pentagon, “the National Security Agency, which monitors communications worldwide, intercepted a phone call from one of Osama bin Laden’s operatives in Afghanistan to a phone number in the former Soviet Republic of Georgia”, and secretary of Defense Rumsfeld learned about the intercepted phone call in real-time (if the NSA monitored and transcribed phone calls in real-time on 9/11, that implies that it did so in the months leading up to 9/11 as well)

But even with all of that spying, the government didn’t stop the hijackers … even though 9/11 was entirely foreseeable.  Moreover, the entire “lone wolf” theory for mass surveillance is false.  In reality, 9/11 was state-backed terror.

As such, blaming 9/11 on a lack of ability of the NSA to spy is wholly false.

As TechDirt notes:

The [court's] footnote refers to the 9/11 Commission Report whose findings directly contradict this narrative. The problem was not that the information wasn’t there. It was that it wasn’t shared. It was the fact that the CIA lost al-Mihdhar, but rather than issue an alert or place him on a watch list, it chose to do nothing. Many things went wrong, but not having the intel wasn’t the issue.

Indeed, the Boston Bombing proves that mass surveillance isn’t what’s needed.  Even though the alleged Boston bombers’ phones were tapped – and NBC News reports, “under the post-9/11 Patriot Act, the government has been collecting records on every phone call made in the U.S.”mass surveillance did not stop the other terror attack on U.S. soil since 9/11.

In reality – despite the government continually grasping at straws to justify its massive spying program – top security experts say that mass surveillance of Americans . Indeed, they say that mass spying actually hurts U.S. counter-terror efforts (more here and here).

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q99x2's picture

Judge didn't fall for anything. Dude's life was threatened. Every Governor has a CIA agent assigned to them. The United States of America is an occupied nation. The Banksters have taken over America and people need to stop them.

rsnoble's picture

He didn't fall for anything he's an Obama supporter.  Anyone in a tax supported position wants to keep an eye on the pitchfork crowd.

redwater's picture

Maybe it will be the Iranians. Maybe China. Perhaps Russia. Or Anonymous.

Eventually, the NSA will get hacked.

The names of those in the NSA will eventually get leaked.

All the intel that the NSA stole will be in the hands of other people/foreign governments/organized crime.


blindman's picture

by some estimates there are dozens of actual video
recordings of the area around the pentagon on 9/11/2001
that were confiscated by some "authority" and the public,
the citizens, the real people of the country called
the united states of america have seen none of this
history of the facts of the scene.
we have had investigations, heard theories, seen computer
generated reenactments , diagrams, witness accounts etc....for what?
the freakin' event was captured on security videos from
the gas stations, the 7 elevens and taco bell ..etc.
but the public sees none of it because ....why?
there is no freakin' airplane! but ...so what, who cares?
so the evidence is
being withheld for 12 years and counting but the lies
concerning what happened and the uncertainty remain.
the brutal backlash both domestic and foreign are just
forgone conclusions stemming from an event that was
never even properly described or characterized.
how is greater nsa surveillance of the innocent and
the victims of these types of terrorist attacks going
to fix this fundamental inconsistency and injustice?
is it that the problem is the "solution" that the
terrorists impose to cover up their crimes?
at this point it would be faked video anyway ....
at least the "authorities" could give out a list of the
video evidence that was confiscated and a corresponding
description of what was observed or captured from that
particular vantage or perspective.

mumbo_jumbo's picture

this cock sucker is a fucking tool, 9/11 could have and should have been prevented, "able danger" had identified the perps along with many other warnings non of which were used to stop the "false flag attack" and all this NSA spying won't stop the next one either.......we live in opposite world.

Dollar Bill Hiccup's picture

Maybe Pauley should go for a ride.

Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.

Son of Captain Nemo's picture
Judge Falls for The Big Lie About NSA Spying...

No No...

Judge is given his job and keeps it because the Federal Government that gave it to him along with his paycheck tells him everything he must do to keep our Nation safe from terrorism -or else!... Or perhaps like Obami and Congress he's also a duplicitous psychopath who's in it for the power trip and the money like the rest of them.

Wouldn't we love to know the dirt the NSA has on Judge Pauley?  Just imagine what would happen to him if he didn't follow directions from the same sheet of music they all do and decided to obey the laws he swore an oath to protect and defend?

How can you not hate this Country for what it does?

SamAdams1234's picture

Something with a goat and some grease.

starman's picture

You mean judge gets payed off.

rwe2late's picture

Another inspired legal benchmark:

The test of legality only considers critical

whether the government declares something efficacious

to its declared purposes.



chunga's picture

OK Snowden...this is your queue.

The ball is in your court now.

sgt_doom's picture

Recommendation 31


From the special report on NSA surveillance to the president:


Recommendation 31:


(1) Governments should not use surveillance to steal industry

secrets to advantage their domestic industry;


(2) Governments should not use their offensive cyber capabilities

to change the amounts held in financial accounts or otherwise

manipulate the financial systems;


During the Bush administration, there were several national demonstrations concerning immigration --- each one knocking the news item of the day completely off the national news, and each time that news item was:  warrantless wiretapping!


By warrantless wiretapping, they referred to the eavesdropping on emails, wire transfers, all forms of data transmission, computer systems, etc.


Both of these marches were organized by Spanish-language radio stations.  The next obvious question is:  who owned those Spanish-language radio stations?


At that time they were owned by the largest private equity/leveraged buyout firm around, the Blackstone Group.  Founded by David Rockefeller's protégé, Peter G. Peterson, with seed money from Rockefeller, along with co-founder Stephen Schwarzman, a Yalie Skull & Bones member, chosen for that fraternity by a group of upperclass men including one George W. Bush.


Curious that the senator who ardently pushed for legal immunity for AT&T and the other telecoms from warrantless wiretapping was none other than Sen. Jay Rockefeller!


Today, the Blackstone Group is the single largest landlord in America, owning some 41,000 rental homes.  Their latest financial scam is to issue a rental home-based security.


Amazing, given that revenue streams --- from those rental homes --- to pay investors will be diverted from normal expenses:  upkeep and normal home maintenance, property taxes, homeowner's insurance, etc., etc., etc.


(And that's assuming all the rental homes are fully paid for --- no monies going towards paying off the mortgage lenders and/or banks.)


Just does not compute! ! ! !


The Blackstone Group enjoys a nefarious past:  buying and shutting down oil refineries to drive up the price of oil; speculating on oil and energy futures during the 2007 - 2008 period (when the paper price of oil rose to 13.8 times higher than its actual physical price), broker on the World Trade Center deal prior to the 9/11 attacks, and mortgage holder of record of WTC Building 7, and after the 9/11 attacks, overseer of the $1 billion captive insurance fund awarded to Blackstone from the US government, ostensibly to help out the families of the victims of 9/11; leveraged buyouts across the US healthcare sector, driving up the price of healthcare from 2000 - 20008, and, taking Blackstone Group public, as in on the New York Stock Exchange, while somehow still ONLY paying capital gains rate on taxes, when legally they should be paying the higher corporate tax rate!


Recommendation 31 begs the question:  on whose behalf was NSA manipulating financial systems and accounts?


Was it Monsanto?


The Blackstone Group?


JPMorgan Chase, Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley?


GE and AT&T?


Or all of the above?


Recently, the news reported that the Obama Administration is suppressing a $40 million report on illegal CIA torture --- been suppressed for about a year now.


John Kiriakou was charged with treason and is now in jail for leaking information that implicated the CIA in illegal torture --- most notably torture of innocents, as the CIA would pay Afghanistani warlords per Taliban they handed over to them, and said unscrupulous warlords would round up innocent villagers (perhaps they liked the looks of their wives, daughters, etc.) and sell them to the equally unscrupulous CIA.

There were multiple reasons the CIA did this:  they could point to their capturing the enemy, plus it afforded them a large and unaccountable revenue stream --- for each payment made for an innocent villager, a so-called Taliban, who knows how much money the CIA agents would pocket and keep?

Just as the salaries offered for torture specialists ("professional interrogators") were quite handsome --- $163,000 starting salary, as abstracted from help wanted ads.

Would that $40 million report on the CIA's illegal torture validate Mr. Kiriakou's actions while invalidating his harsh jail sentence?

Most probably --- which is why Barack Obama is suppressing this report!

Wonder who received that $40 million for that suppressed report?


There are simply too many jackholes in the CIA, NSA, DIA and Pentagon who are embezzling and stealing gobs and gobs of taxpayer monies.


The Special Inspector General's Iraqi Reconstruction Report (SIGIR report), clearly indicated the large number of officers, senior noncoms, various contractors involved in such thievery at the volunteer military level --- and the numbers would only increase should a real forensic audit ever be undertaken of the CIA, NSA and DIA!


Hope and change?  Transparency in government or greater and endless corruption from our latest presidential administration?








chunga's picture

it's all so creepy sarge

i wish none of this were true but i have a feeling it's probably worse than any of us can imagine

blindman's picture

separation of powers
concentration of powers
you choose. (warning to independents, libertarians, individuals in general)
there will be attempts and successes at organisation by many other people
and their efforts will over run your individuality, independence and
libertarianism. conclusion; sadly, collectively, something must be done to counteract those
over runs! as them people(they) dismantle the government that was to be based
on the idea of separation of powers it is a uniquely good time to consider
becoming vocal and involved in the process of securing liberty and the rights
of the individual by speaking out in defense of the sanctity of human life
and demanding that those respects be reflected in all legislation proposed
by yourself and your representatives.
the idea of voting yes on a bill to find out what is in it demands
repeal of unconstitutional legislation and removal of those in government
who adhere to those treasonous methods of tyranny.
anyway ... it is paradoxical and maybe impossible but there is a
brawl brewing in the realm of , not money, but the power to create
money, sovereignty. there the people sit ; deaf, dumb and, you guessed it,
blin ......

moneybots's picture

"Judge Pauley is uninformed … and he fell for the “big lie” behind NSA spying."


Is Pauley uninformed, or willfully blind, because he supports the NSA massive spying in the first place?  If he is willfully blind, he wouldn't have seen the information, even if it was printed in large bold type in neon, six inches from his face.

Joenobody12's picture

This mf judge is making an armed revolution inevitable.

SamAdams1234's picture

There can only be a revoluton if there is a plan. There can be no planning when there is no privacy. The threat of  revolution has been eliminated. 

el Gallinazo's picture

Yeah, right.  William Pauley was ignorant about the NSA "lie" just like Adolph Eichmann was ignorant about what was going down at Buchenwald.  Hopefully, they will have the same sentence.

bunnyswanson's picture



An 85-year-old former civilian employee of the U.S. Army was fined but avoided prison time on Friday after earlier pleading guilty to giving classified documents to Israel in the 1980s in a case the sentencing judge said was "shrouded in mystery."


Court documents showed that Ben-Ami Kadish, who was fined $50,000 but spared prison time, reported to the same handler as Jonathan Pollard, an American who spied for Israel in the 1980s and triggered a scandal that rocked U.S.-Israeli relations.

"Why it took the government 23 years to charge Mr. Kadish is shrouded in mystery," U.S. District Judge William Pauley said during the sentencing hearing in Manhattan federal court. "It is clear the (U.S.) government could have charged Mr. Kadish with far more serious crimes."

Kadish pleaded guilty in December to acting as an unregistered agent of Israel. He was arrested in April 2008 on four counts of conspiracy and espionage. The spying charge, dropped under a plea deal, had carried a possible death sentence.

"I am sorry I made a mistake," a frail-looking Kadish said during the sentencing hearing. "I thought I was helping the state of Israel without harming the United States."


Selective Sentencing Protocol (Preferential treatment toward benefactors mofos)

blindman's picture

The Who - Won't Get Fooled Again (With Lyrics)
when the perpetrator of the crime is the security and intelligence
apparatus of the dominant aspect of the state itself all the
surveillance in the world of the innocent and victims will be
for naught (except for the purpose of framing a patsy
or misdirecting the suspicion surrounding the crime), as we
can see in the case of jfk assassination , mlk,
9/11, etc and many more to come. now , don't you just feel safer
knowing that.
power corrupts and absolute power is most corrupted and there
is no ultimate over seer other than death itself; so i guess
that is a good thing.

WarPony's picture

Exactly! Who is watching the watchers - nobody. The stasi apparatus is now embedded into the status quo and will compromise all who stand in opposition - que SkyNet.

NSA, may the ticks of a thousand camels infest your pajamas.

blindman's picture

you might dig this?
" A philosophical and psychological exploration into the origins and our society’s dysfunction and the emergence of a new culture.
Professor Ashok Gangadean is the distinguished Margaret Gest Professor of Global Philosophy at Haverford College in Pennsylvania, where he has taught for almost 40 years." ...
though the people sleep as in "they" do not even consciously exist
as it is a mystery and intangible this term for the shared mind of
a collection of people, their collective will and heart and intent;
"they" / "we" sleep but in our sleep, we are watching. we are
over seeing even though we do not consciously know it. but ....
watch, it will become the future !

blindman's picture

@" ..may the ticks .."
that is a good one !

MFLTucson's picture

A courrpt judiciary finishes the loop of mass courrption in the United States Marxist revolution.

Winston Smith 2009's picture

NSA program stopped no terror attacks, says White House panel member


And the linked-to PBS documentary, "The Spy Factory," shows that it was the failure of fedgov agencies to communicate with each other combined with high-level incompetence, NOT a lack of resources, that resulted in the failure to stop 9/11. But, of course, huge bureaucracies never openly admit fault, they always claim that they didn't have enough funding or resources.

DaveyJones's picture

True, Mr. Cheney only told a select group

Such a prude

sgt_doom's picture

Actually, you are (as I'm sure you realize) correct!

Cheney and Rummy advised the Blackstone Group, Veritas Capital and AIG as, after all, they were part of the operation.

DaveyJones's picture

something about American milestones and the name Dick... 

WarPony's picture

All NSA has to do is track the insider trading just prior to the attack in order to spot the criminals. But, I suppose they are one in the same.

bunnyswanson's picture



Published: May 1, 2009

WASHINGTON — A case that began four years ago with the tantalizing and volatile premise that officials of a major pro-Israel lobbying organization were illegally trafficking in sensitive national security information collapsed on Friday as prosecutors asked that all charges be withdrawn.

The government’s motion to dismiss said the government was obliged take a final review of the case to consider “the likelihood that classified information will be revealed at trial, any damage to the national security that might result from a disclosure of classified information and the likelihood the government would prevail at trial.”



(one and the same)

Gringo Viejo's picture

He didn't fall for anything. Federal judges are federal employess that tow the federal line. Nothing more. Nothing less. If you've notions of "law", "justice" or the "Constitution"......you're a fucking child.

Papasmurf's picture

What we have is a massively expensive, massively ineffective and massively offensive violation of the US Constitution.  The NSA is more dangerous to US citizens security than all terrorist's actions combined.

Ratscam's picture

you call the 2.3 trillion dollars that rumsfeld said were unaccountable at the pentagon on 9/10 excessive? come on, what is a trillion or two among friends......

DaveyJones's picture

falling or jumping judicial suicide

the last branch is no longer alive

WarPony's picture

Dead for decades, gone to the dark side. Juries once were the deciders of facts and the judge decided only the law, but now the judge can overrule the jury. And, certainly don't expect a jury of your peers because the Equal Rights Amendment NEVER became law and you will likely have women on the jury. You could always appeal I guess.

KickIce's picture

Supreme Court has become an extension of the executive/ legislative branch.  (Pick one, or both...)

AGuy's picture

"Judge Falls for The Big Lie About NSA Spying"

Or bought off. I wouldn't be surprised if the wife or other family members of the Judge ends up geting a special consulting gig that pays millions for doing nothing for the NSA or an NSA connected contractor. The NSA is going to morph into an organization that pulls the strings of politicians. NSA can create fake evidence and use it against candidates that don't support them. Or other Politicians can use the NSA to suppress their corruption or to target against political enemies.

The only silver lining is that the US is deep in debt and has pissed off every nation on the planet. The US gov't is doomed and will eventually fall.

assistedliving's picture

$13+++B CIA budget

$75B+++ NSA budget

DoD budget $700B



suggest we hire a few 'local' contractors to build a few schools, hospitals and roads $20B budget

spend the rest at home.  better still, why collect the taxes & spend it at all?


xavi1951's picture

Not disagreeing with the premise that it is a bad decision, GW is again citing himself as a source to back his claim.  "It must be true because I have said it was true here, here, and here."  Your posts are more believable when you don't cite yourself.  Fortunately, in this case you also cite other people and saves this post.

MeelionDollerBogus's picture

idiot. The ARTICLES have deeply listed sources and the zerohedge article is a condensed short reference TO all the other articles which themselves have references.

You never read any of them before, did you? When I have time I read them all. When I don't have time I put them in a list that automatically opens up first in the morning on my first day off so I will make time.

TheReplacement's picture

What morons down voted this logical statement.

Richard Chesler's picture

Uninformed, the PC term for Corrupt.

Joebloinvestor's picture

The judge is a STOOGE.

I hope his pig fucking pictures go mainstream.

blindman's picture

you have heard of manufacturing consent,
get ready for the memory hole and hacking the
truth; manufacturing digital reality in real time.
what will he do when he can actually compose
people, places and events in real time;
this modern man playing at being god?

WarPony's picture

Manufactured Consent for murder: 1) was the Associated Press and the Justice Department during both the Ruby Ridge and Waco standoffs.  Weaver (Ruby Ridge) managed to get Jerry Spence to sue and win millions, the Davidians didn't fare so well & 2) also surfaced in the Montana Freeman and Fort Davis (total fed op) standoffs - same organizations - but was countered by opposing boots on the ground. FBI ROEs changed during Montana, and the jury for the Freeman trial heard all about the consent manufacturing, convicting only the undercover fed (Jacobi) on the conspiracy charge, leaving the Federal Government as the unindicted co-conspirator (1st trial) - what a hoot that was.

Also, Allison Sesnon, the AP reporter (most likely Mossad) arrested by the Freeman for trespassing, when testifying about who arrested her said she didn't get a good look at the "victims" (no one perished) - Freudian slippage and the jury (1st trial) threw out the kidnapping charges.

blindman's picture

the new intelligence and data grab, manufacture
and surveillance paradigm is offered to make false flag operations
and mind manipulation even more efficient, convincing
and effective and it works and will continue to work until
people demand of themselves that they put the awful effort required
into critical thinking. evidenced by the horseshit people
so facilely accept as fact and evidence we have a long way to go.
under the new virtual paradigm you will not be able to
believe your eyes and ears to apprehend even the facts
never mind comprehend the truth!
and then you might wonder is it even worth the disappointment
and effort to confront the truth? i have been personally told
by more than one person that it is not worth it.
the argument then ensues and continues to this day, but there,
right there! you see the focus is shifted from the core issue !
and the train rolls on down the next few yards of track,
unabated and relentless.
April 26 2012, Jim Fetzer, How JFK Assassination Research Leads to 9/11 truth

WarPony's picture

Great points, you can't beat the king in the courts of the kingdom. But, that shouldn't stop folks from trying since a trail is blazed a step at a time.

Winston Churchill's picture

Runymeade was supposed to have changed that.

Now its just a piece of paper, like the constitution,something to be circumvented while paying

it lip service.

Al Gorerhythm's picture

This judge needs the treatement handed out to Piers Morgan by an Aussie cricket legend.


Ctrl_P's picture

5 1/2 ounces at 85mph...

The after photos and list of injuries read like a typical aussie backyard!