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Is The NSA Quartering “Digital” Troops Within Our Homes?
We have extensively documented that the U.S. government is trampling virtually every single Constitutional right set forth in the Bill of Rights.
One of the few rights which we thought the government still respects is the the 3rd Amendment, which prohibits the government forcing people to house troops:
No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.
But security expert Jacob Appelbaum notes that the NSA may be digitally violating the 3rd Amendment.
By way of background, this week Appelbaum was the main force behind an expose in Spiegel – and gave a must-watch talk – on the NSA’s systemic offensive programs to commandeer computers and computer systems, phone connections and phone systems, and communications networks of all types.
Appelbaum shows that the NSA has literally taken over our computer and our phones, physically intercepting laptop shipments and installing bugware before themselves shipping the laptop on to the consumer, installing special hardware that overcomes all privacy attempts, including “air gaps” (i.e. keep a computer unplugged from the Internet). Appelbaum also notes that spyware can suck up a lot of system resources on a computer or smartphone.
And he says this is the digital equivalent of soldiers being stationed in our houses against our will:
The parallel might not be as far-fetched as it may seem at first …
The NSA itself says that it’s in the middle of a massive cyber war. As such, malware, physical spying devices and offensive internet workarounds are literally the main troops in the NSA’s offensive cyber army.
Quartering meant that Colonial Americans had:
- No control over when the British troops came and went
- No say in what resources they consumed
- And no privacy even in their own castles
Similarly, mass NSA spying means that modern day Americans have:
- No control over when military presence comes or goes from our computer and phones (NSA is part of the Department of Defense)
- No say in what resources the spies suck up (remember, Applebaum says that spying can use a lot of resources and harm performance)
- And no privacy even in the deepest inner sanctuary of our electronic home base
Colonial Americans lost the quiet use and enjoyment of their homes. Modern Americans are losing the quiet use and enjoyment of our digital homes because the NSA is stationing digital “troops” inside our computers and phones.
Just as the Colonists’ homes were no longer theirs … our computers and phones are no longer ours.
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"Mankind are more disposed to suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the Forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long Train of Abuses and Usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a Design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their Right, it is their Duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future Security." (Declaration of Independence)
... que the Militia, Pitches.
I attempted to view a militia site via google search. The site was most likely filled with backdoor malware that totally crashed my firefox browser. Tptb are anticipating this but cant stop it
I would not visit those sites.
Back in the day, some of those people were real crazy.
Not that their ideas were wrong about the Law and Constitution, but their remedy was not good.
A lot of them are also Fed fake sites, so keep that in mind. Eack KKK club has 5 feds for each real KKK guy. Same with the other groups.
Good advice and my feelings exactly
Simply put, the Militia is the Citizens' arrest on steroids. Good advice about web pages - they are most likely feds. And, good places to start are your church, family and friends. You don't need to file a charter at the County recorder, but the law was simply 12 members electing one to lead. All that may sound well and fine, but the legal - as well as the NSA implications - are staggering. Ha ha, scares the shit out of them, but a lot of feds are actually on the side of the Militia, and we outnumber politicians by about 100K to one.
It's just a good idea to have someone who has your back when things go south. Safety in numbers and all. Train, familiarize and have a plan. And, if you are in a large metro area, try to have a bugout location.
Stay perky my friends!
California just banned magazine rebuild kits. Add ca to the growing list of states that are infringing on our right to bare arms.
I don't think they mind bare arms, but they don't want you to bear arms with them.
Sorry, couldn't resist. No offence intended.
My arms are truly naked without weapons ; ) derp
My naked arms are a weapon...The mere sight of the ugliness of them has been known to cause permanent Brain Damge to the victim.
The third is for human flesh soldiers and does not apply to bugs.
I think it is self-evident. The real subject is violation of the 4th.
DING! There's the winner right there. We're supposed to be secure in our personal effects. Essentially that means the FUCKING DOUCHEBAG FEDERAL GOVERNMENT is supposed to stay out of our personal business; computers, phones, bank accounts, etc.
The judicial branch is no longer protecting us against an overbearing feral Federal Government. It's just that simple!
The two people who downed me believe it is ok for the gov to bug homes without warrant in times of war.
They may have come to the conclusion, based on your comment, that YOU think bugs are OK.
Just a thought.
How? The Constitution does not give the govt the right to mass collect data on citizens, a right the govt is fishing for.
Even now the govt can say we are at war, the war on terror bs.
Clearly the 3rd was written to apply to human soldiers, not souless things.
I thought I was being fairly clear.
Given I'm an anarchist, I'm unlikely to side with government. I was trying to point out that the bugs and the soldiers are pretty much equivalent, given there is a human being (maybe a soldier?) using the aforementioned bug against you.
IT'S THE INTENT THAT'S IMPORTANT.
You're joking I hope. People are not using their brains. The 3rd states clearly a soldier in any house. A remote human connected to a bug is not a soldier in your home. It must be the revenge of the Bitcoin pushers downing me. This is too obvious:
To quarter is to give shelter and lodging.
It does not make any difference if that soldier is in your home physically or via electronic communications link. The effect is the same, that a soldier is in your home without your consent.
haha, what if you are or were a soldier and are currently living in your own house?
I self-violated the Third.
Being in your home electronically is not covered in the 3rd amdt. The 3rd was written for sheltering human soldiers, not for spying on the homeowner. Bugs do not need shelter and lodging.
I tried real hard.
Now I'll just give up - you don't even seem to understand the English language, or have any concept of logic.
As for the BitCoin thing, where the fuck did that come from.
Jeez!
I've angered lots of Bitcoin pushers. The 3rd applies to shelter and lodging and is too easy to comprehend for all the down votes. For an anarchist you go out of your way to reach for excuses for the govt to get away with violating the people.
Like I said, I give up.
I may have put you on the offensive when I said 'you're joking?' If I did I apologize.
I try never to be offensive, it's counterproductive.
This is the problem of the 'legal' system.
Defining words in narrow ways to achieve a desired end result.
It's the intent that's important. If the Brits had had the tech we have today, they could have left the soldiers in the barracks.
Recommending articles about Snowden, Greenwald, and NSA on http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/ from Sibel Edmonds, for those who have not noticed yet, like me.
I guess I do not understand how anyone can access your computer if it is unplugged fm the power outlet. Can anyone tell me how this is done and what are any countermeasures one could use? I just don't believe that is possible....
No one can access your computer if the battery is removed. If the battery is inside, the computer can be woken up over the wireless network and operated with the screen disabled (dark).
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee851581%28v=ws.10%29.aspx
Your computer can be used to bug you when it's off, even with the battery removed by illuminating it with a microwave carrier and processing the mix products re-radiated from semiconductor junctions in the audio circuit. This technology was used in a famous case involving bugging of the US embassy in Moscow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPJjxiuyy4A
I unplug and take the battery out, but when I reconnect to power my clock shows the correct time even though I am not connected to the net for automatic time sync, so there must be an internal battery.
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GW, The 3rd amdt does not sanction eavesdropping. Quartering means to give shelter and lodging. Bugs do not need shelter and lodging. Therefore the premise of your assertions are wrong. Warantless mass wirtapping is a violation of the 4th.
There are small capacitors that power the main-board for a few hours even after you unplug everything and take out the battery, but it will go completely dark after 24h or so.
That is probably it. If I could just leave my computer off long enough to test it.
wifi, battery.
go back & listen carefully from 56 min. They can kill you.
You may be missing the point as described. The pc must be powered on, else it's of no use to the individual user, and connected via an ISP to the 'net. But once the pc has been compromised, then anytime the NSA wants to access/control it is merely a matter of the pc being booted up and connected to an active modem.
it's virtually possible
More on the spying of students. It happened and can again.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/18/harriton-high-school-spie_n_467491.html
There is 3DS, Wii and Xbox hacks, as we know
In Pennsylvania not long ago the school board of a school rigged the cams of the laptops that the students took home so that they could spy on the children when home. When they were caught, they claimed it was just a way to spot the students who might have been using drugs.
Its not only your government you need be concerned about. Its also the local school boards that have powers to control what your children read and many other aspects of your childs life.
http://boingboing.net/2010/02/17/school-used-student.html
i do believe the laws have been passed in persuance of the quartering of digital troops, as the war on terror was declared, and was constitutionally legislated. Like it or not, their your reps. Furthemore, the 4th Amendment, "protection from seizure" is what is in violation, as 15yrs are kept prior to search, prior to probable cause on collecting the globe's data (stictly legally speaking, as surely we know what the federal courts would say about federal probable cause existing to collect and store all information pre-emptively). Missed the nail Washington, stick to salmon