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Obama and NSA to the American People (and Congress): F@ck Off
Americans want NSA spying reined in.
But a poll from November showed that only 11% of Americans trust Obama to actually do anything to rein in spying.
We were right to be skeptical …
Today, Obama announced his fake “reforms” … and he’s not doing anything but putting lipstick on the same ‘old pig.
The New York Times notes that Obama’s “reform”:
Largely codifies existing practices.
The Times points out that the reform is meant to placate NSA critics, without actually challenging national security agencies:
The emerging approach, described by current and former government officials who insisted on anonymity in advance of Mr. Obama’s widely anticipated speech, suggested a president trying to straddle a difficult line in hopes of placating foreign leaders and advocates of civil liberties without a backlash from national security agencies. The result seems to be a speech that leaves in place many current programs, but embraces the spirit of reform and keeps the door open to changes later.
The Times includes a revealing quote:
“Is it cosmetic or is there a real thumb on the scale in a different direction?” asked one former government official who worked on intelligence issues. “That’s the question.”
The answer should be obvious.
This is – once again – Obama saying “trust me” … without changing anything.
Obama has repeatedly promised to change policies started in the Bush administration. But – instead of reforming them – he’s reaffirmed them … and made them worse than ever.
Obama and the NSA have lied over and over again. They have told the American people (and Congress) to f@ck off.
The real message they are sending is:
We hold the power … So we’re going to keep doing what we want, and you can’t do anything to stop us.
And see this.
NSA to Congress: F@ck Off
We’ve shown that the NSA has been spying on Congress for some time.
The NSA has never denied that it’s spying on Congress. Instead, the NSA first said:
Members of Congress have the same privacy protections as all US persons.
And Friday, NSA chief Keith Alexander wrote a letter to Senator Bernie Sanders saying that the NSA cannot reveal whether the agency has been targeting members of Congress in its metadata collection because doing so would violate privacy provisions accorded to civilians in the program:
The telephone metadata program incorporates extraordinary controls to protect Americans’ privacy interests. Among those protections is the condition that NSA can query the metadata only based on phone numbers reasonably suspected to be associated with specific foreign terrorist groups. For that reason, NSA cannot lawfully search to determine if any records NSA has received under the program have included metadata of the phone calls of any member of Congress, other American elected officials, or any other American without that predicate.
This is the exact same excuse the NSA and other intelligence agencies have previously given for hiding how many Americans they spy on.
As Wired reported last June:
The surveillance experts at the National Security Agency won’t tell two powerful United States Senators how many Americans have had their communications picked up by the agency as part of its sweeping new counterterrorism powers. The reason: it would violate your privacy to say so.
That claim comes in a short letter sent Monday to civil libertarian Senators Ron Wyden and Mark Udall. The two members of the Senate’s intelligence oversight committee asked the NSA a simple question last month: under the broad powers granted in 2008′s expansion of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, how many persons inside the United States have been spied upon by the NSA?
The query bounced around the intelligence bureaucracy until it reached I. Charles McCullough, the Inspector General of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the nominal head of the 16 U.S. spy agencies. In a letter acquired by Danger Room, McCullough told the senators that the NSA inspector general “and NSA leadership agreed that an IG review of the sort suggested would itself violate the privacy of U.S. persons,” McCullough wrote.
In other words, the NSA is sending the same message to both the American people and their representatives in Congress: f@ck off.
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We told you not to tell *anyone* that, malikai.
Your file will now be transferred to the Special Projects branch for rendering.
I once new a colonel from Fort Mead
She was kinky and like watching me pee
I said with a grin while sticking it in
so you think you're a spy, while i'm not so sly
when your screaming I put a bug in your rug.
http://dhnnews.com/renowned-cryptographer-believes-his-phone-can-stop-th...
Hopefully (and sadly) US tech companies should lose business over this. Maybe then next time they won't just roll over when the NSA comes knocking
General Alexander is the guy that the Founding Fathers anticipated, and wrote a constitution to guard against.
And fuck you, Congressman James Sensenbrenner, for personally letting this horse out of the barn. History will record you as being a treasonous son of a bitch.
With betrayal in every word he utters and not one promise kept since he took his oath of office to the Constitution of the United States to a crowd of more than 1 million American onlookers in his 2009 inauguration.
Smug look. Chin out. Somebody stop me!...
I think Putin said it better than anybody with sarcasm when he stated not too long ago that he envied the power of the American President. Because it wasn't an indictment on President Obama's willful neglect and subversion of the rule of law. Rather. It was an indictment on the American people for continuing to allow it.
How ironic. Khrushchev said, "we will bury you." Had he only known he could sit back and watch us bury ourselves.
For some reason I feel obligated to continue the mantra, "we the people" must remove ourselves from party politics and bashing one president over another when the reality is, from the President of the United states and congress down to the lowliest municiple clerk in 30 miles from nowhere, we have allowed what is to occur.
When we do not challange "every" lie, "Every" incompetency because it may be inconvient to do so, we strengthen that what is.
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Was that "allow it" or "swallow it"?
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l always wonder what kind of people that outfit employs. it is huge, and yet only one guy has been man enough to say this is bullshit. clapper and alexander, don't they know historically things end badly for men like them. haven't they ever heard of nuremburg?
Obama has hurt too many already. His legacy will be that he caused so much lasting damage and pain, needlessly.
He is a fraud. He isn't who he says he is. He hasn't done what he says he's done. He doesn't do what he says he'll do. He is thoroughly dishonest, a fake, a fraud. The media helped create and elevated and propagated and supported and covered for this fraud and should right that wrong by now exposing this fraud. If the media does that, it would regain credibility, Obama would quickly be removed from office, the country would breathe a sigh of relief and set about righting the economy, righting healthcare, righting US politics, and begin planning for a less uncertain, brighter future.
Do you and your 22 upvoters not see? Obama, fucktard that he is, is not the problem. He and his ilk regardless of party have been runniing roughshod over all of us for years and we have allowed it. WE ARE THE PROBLEM. WE ALLOW IT!
"the media"
lmfao...good one.
Lest "the media" means "raging lynch mob" and "right that wrong" refers to pitchforks and rope.
Obama doesn't run anything he is a figurehead.
Thank you.
He was elected as a symbol of social progress, not because he was a competent leader.
Funny how he's joined the ranks of those leading us backward from real social progress - like the Magna Carta.
He was elected because he wasn't George Bush the Junior, and because he was the only other choice.
Next election is the sequel to anybody but Bush as Hitlery is foisted on the proles. The Clinton's are all about vengence. Barry on steroids.
"He was elected because he wasn't George Bush the Junior..."
Actually, in a way, he was. True, people THOUGHT he was different in 2008, but his RE-election shows willful ignorance on the part of his supporters. Try to think of one significant policy where BHO has differed in any meaningfully positive way from Bush policy. BHO doubled down on the wars in Asia minor while expanding the number of fronts (Libya and he tried to in Syria), he's continued to coddle banksters, he's taken extra-judicial murder to heights unimagined by GWB w/the use of drones, he's supported persistent violations of Americans' rights (4th amendment, for example, there are of course others), he signed the NDAA, he ran guns to the drug lords in Mexico, and on and on.
Im not making the case that GWB is any way great. He's not. It's just that this meme that BHO is somehow Bush's antithesis is wrong and positively harmful.
BTW, there is always an alternative choice....that choice is to abstain.
Like I said (more or less) in another thread:
Did people elect him, or did Diebold elect him?
It is kinda weird how people forget the (in some cases blatant) election fraud, especially on this site.
"double post...fuckin fumble fingers..."
Ron Paul ran in 2008. There WAS another choice.
That wasn't a choice and GOd forbid his son be considered a choice.
Hey NSA are you watching us, you watching us.....we are watching you.
"Obama announced his fake reforms"
Obama himself is a fake reform
These things are not going away
It does not matter which party tells its lies
This government is growing exponentially paranoid, corrupt and broke
with a proportionally inverse effect on every one of your rights
They will not back off until they break
Exactly !
Congress has the power to defund the NSA. They can absolutely and unquestionably end domestic spying by the NSA. Are they even willing to threaten it?
And watch how fast NSA hacks the economy. And do a much better job of it than the FED.
NSA has been running the FED for years, the NSA has been printing unlimited off budgets BILLIONS of USD's for years,
CIA has been dumping $100 USD notes out of CONTAINERS for years in war zones to BUY hearts&minds.
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Don't kid yourself that the US Congress could defund NSA/CIA, ..
US-MIL controls the FED, the US Congress is a puppet show.
The CIA/NSA both have their own printing presses and have been doing so for years.
That's why fascist NSA want's more spying.
Every ASSHOLE on earth wants INFORMATION, the POWER TO CONTROL
The coming universal BIT-COIN will allow them to deny food or oil in real-time to any person earth.
The power to turn any woman into a whore, the power to force any parent to sell their child. This is total power.
The good news is that not all country's are ran by assholes.
Try me....
well right back at them...and obomba can take his illegal, unconstitutional "executive orders" and the pen he signs them with and shove them all right up his ass sideways. He's a piece of shit of the lowest as well as highest order, and I'm sure nobody else in the world knows just how much of a major piece of total shit he is than the fucking NSA. And they can fuck off too for all I care.
Edit: Oh...and to the CON-gress as well...they can all fuck off too. Every piece of shit in D.C. and that's around 98% of them can suck it. They're all criminals and traitors, save a few good guys and gals who are way in over their heads and who will never make a bit of difference in that cespool, shithole town.
War-Criminal-in-Chief Obama tells Afghan mother and seven children to fuck off permanently with US bombing strike; dead identified as "enemy force".
http://news.yahoo.com/afghan-president-accuses-us-killing-8-civilians-ai...
You know things have changed when these monsters are actually tried for war crimes.
all the way back to Bush.
Heck, throw Bosnia Clinton in there too....though he might be near dead by that time
u4, that would be the day when things change. Those fuckers control the courts so I don't expect anything soon.....
and we will suffer the economic consequences off it. you can call windows 9 what eva ya want, new google secure etc. cant unring a bell motha frecken.
If you like your opinion, you can keep it.
Hey NSA, GET FUCKED! If you're the ones spying on me, you're the ones violating my privacy. Revealing that you've been spying on me is violating your paranoid secrecy delusions.
NSA is a jew backboned spy agency feeding like a parasite on the American people.
I will concur that the best Jewish Lawyers & Judges that money can buy have quietly setup the USA/ISRAEL police states that exist today.
Even in Hitler's Germany many right-wing Jews colluded against their own people, right-wing jews worked along side Hitler in the Warsaw Ghetto slaughter, then as now it was an easy way to get somebody's real-estate, and valuables.
Are you talking about Soros?
Almost all of the hardware&software for PRISM came from ISRAEL, but so what?
ISRAEL deals with intelligence for the same reason as the USA, to control its prison population,
In the USA you are all Palestinians.
But make no mistake
The MOSSAD isn't JEWISh
The CIA/NSA isn't Christian.
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AIPAC, JDL, ADL are all right wing zionist NEO-CON fuck-tards, that have nothing to do with religion,... zionism is about stealing real-estate.
Real Estate is a bad investment. Are they stupid?
I said "STEAL", I never said they were paying for anything.
Investment is using your OWN money, stealing is using other peoples money.
ZIONISM was always about stealing Palestinian land, The USA was about stealing North American Indian lands, ... manifest destiny, ...
Of course they treat Congress with disdain . . .
. . . doesn't everybody??
Tell us something new . . .
The cONgress jerks deserve disdain just like the NSA does.
All of them should just fuck the fuck off.
This is gross. Blech
when you get your pitchfork and do something about it I'll take notice.
ooooh those jews make me sooooooo angry
(gotta be worth at least 10 up votes, surely)
Same as it ever was.
Believe in Santa Claus, receive coal.
Keep voting though. That'll fix everything!!!!!
One of these days perhaps you'll stop being such an evil, incoherent statist, GW.
Until then, all you're doing is continuing to feed The Beast.