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The Most Boring Superbowl Ever … Until 9/11 Truth Proponent Interrupts MVP Interview
This clip has gotten a lot of media attention … almost as much as Peyton Manning explaining why the football hit his helmet on the very first play (leading to a safety, and the fastest score in superbowl history).
Winning Seahawks coach Pete Carroll also questions 9/11. As do some old-timers, like 5-time NFL Pro Bowl center Mark Stepnoski (Dallas Cowboys and Houston Oilers) and former NFL running back Bill Enyart (Buffalo Bills and Oakland Raiders).
What do you think? How many of you think:
(1) The government couldn’t have foreseen 9/11, and did everything it could to minimize the damage (while perhaps being negligent in its foresight, coordination, communication, priorities or execution)?
(2) 9/11 was an inside job carried out by rogue elements of the U.S. government as a “false flag attack“?
(3) The government knew the attack was coming, but allowed it to succeed to justify the launching of the war for oil – er, I mean the “War on Terror” – and to consolidate power and crackdown on liberties at home?
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It's useless, man. EVERYTHING is a conspiracy don't you know.
not useless. its a very useful thing to know that reality as most know it, is a construct that has been hijacked for a very dark purpose.
Sometimes the most fervent critics are leading their followers away from the scene of the crime, sometimes unwittingly, sometimes otherwise. I'm not pointing any fingers here, but it's always something to consider when the obvious is being over-looked.
I am Chumbawamba.
I had a conversation with someone a while back who had an interesting and surprising take on the NSA revelations- he was "shocked" that there were enough intelligent (and competent) life forms in another sector of intelligence complex to successfully execute that complex a plan and keep it under wraps so long even though they were interfacing with so many .gov drones outside of their silo/fiefdom...
There is a difference between a conspiracy within the government by employees of the government, and a conspiracy by the government (official policy).
Dunno, ask the NSA...they had to have known eh?
Super Bowl 48
the 911 of super bowls...
Probably 3 but you can't discount the possibility that government workers are useless and never see anything coming
4 Down arrows. At least 4 Gummint employees were literate enough to read your post. So they are 100% worthless. Then again, you did use small words.
Never attribute to malice that which can be readily explained by stupidity.
What I want to know is which ZHer was that guy?
What I want to know is what Edward Snowden's got.
take a careful look at the snowden story... "snowden's secret"... sound familiar?
http://www.zengardner.com/snowdens-secret-heard/
the fingerprints of the hidden hand are all over it.
"the fingerprints of the hidden hand are all over it."
http://www.scribd.com/doc/9647831/Epperson-The-Unseen-Hand-An-Introducti...
Great link on "Snowden's secret". My understanding of these psycho-sociopaths is that they are obliged to follow certain arcane rules if they want to capture and control the spirits of the victims, principally that they have to reveal to the victim the perpetration of the crime or abuse, invariably before it happens.
It is cited as ‘Revelation of the Method’. Once revealed, if the victim does not protest and resist the attack they are deemed to be submitting to the abuser’s control. It’s a rationale that appears to be not unlike the twisted psychopathy of a child abuser.
However, the nature of the Revelation of the Method is often hidden within the context of trance hypnotic illusion (see: mass media,pop music, films, bread and circuses, 9/11 psych trauma and its concomitant media-myth programming) and is ultimately just a disingenuous variation or modulation on ongoing media mind control.
Hardly fair and open disclosure...but then again what would you expect from these psychos...
Revelation of the Method - Introduction
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6j-w0nKIY0
Dean Haglund on Alex Jones TV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwK_3SUQ0DI
9/11 X-Files - The Lone Gunmen Pilot - Predictive Programming
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIdhoc0PRr8
Origins and Techniques of Monarch Mind Control
http://vigilantcitizen.com/hidden-knowledge/origins-and-techniques-of-monarch-mind-control/#qImIYSDSYZ7CdU4T.99
Simply put, the 'big secrets' are all hidden in plain sight.
Snowden's secret is that we're all meat on the inside. I don't get the connection.
Snowden spilled his guts. Catch-22 being one of my favorite novels, and having read it thrice, my first comment on the 'Snowden secrets' coming to light was the irony of his name. If I was an evil secret gov cabal concocting faux-whistleblowers as a way to spread public awareness (and implicit acceptance) of a new surveillance paradigm, I would want my treasonous secret-leaker to be named Snowden. That said, I've always hoped against reason that he is legit.
Number 3
oil is only part of the picture. there is a war for global control underway. 911 kicked it into overdrive.
Very interesting, j39, as I had no recollection of "Snowden's secret" in Catch-22 but now do, if only faintly. Makes me want to reread it.
That said, I confess the article you cited makes me doubt that Edward Snowden's got the goods on 9/11. If he did, his leaks would be coming faster and harder, which they aren't. And the author could well be right that the steady drip-drip-drip is designed to further condition the American people to their enslavement, in which case Snowden really is a traitor, rather than the hero we hope he is.
But while there's not the slightest hope that the American people will risk their lives to regain their lost freedoms, there is the hope that Bitcoin and/or one or another of its cousins will provide a means of escape that neither the USG nor any other nation-state will be able to stop.
Which is why my hopes are not only placed there, but so, increasingly, are my efforts.
digital currencies are the NWO playing ground, watch out. they love things that are readily subject to manipulation. It is, afterall, how they have managed to control the masses of humanity for so long... deception. think about it. The NSA can literally hack a computer without an internet connection using nothing other than sound waves from a distance. it naive to think that a digital currency will somehow defeat these people. bitcoin may be the same basic operation as snowden, the object being to head people in the wrong direction. In the case of bitcoin, that would be (away from) gold, and the incredibly fraudulent game that has been played for so long. A digital currency just might allow them to come out of the other side of a total collapse, in full control with the masses none the wiser.
where's Fonestar!!!
You might be right, but I for one think that the genie's out of the bottle and that there's no putting in back in, meaning that cryptography is increasingly on the side of the people now and that the state is going to find it impossible to control when applied to money or anything else.
the state has almost unlimited resources, and very coercive means. the solution is to bring the state back in the position it belongs, under the control of the people, in a legal framework. take away the money changers and their evil, and we are halfway home.
Accent on halfway, as we either rid ourselves of the state, cancer-like, or it rids itself of us, no matter that it dies along with its host.
That's how crazy it is: if it can't rule, nobody does.
That's why my money (literally) is on Bitcoin and its cousins, as they represent the ultimate antidote: the cancer can't find the cells that it must spread to in order to survive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgrunnLcG9Q
For those of you with a short attention span.....
Also the guy was interviewed on Alex Jones show this afternoon (2/3/14 2:00 est)
I was in New York on a business trip from Sept. 3rd through Sept. 7, 2001 and I stayed at the Millenium Hilton, which was located next to the World Trade Center Complex. On Thursday Sept 6, early evening I decided to walk across the street to go up to the observation deck at WTC2. The usual operating hours were 9:30am until 9:30pm and I felt it would be nice to see the city before heading out for the evening.
When I arrived at the lobby of WTC2, I was stopped by security and informed that the observatory was closed due to contruction repair work being completed. I said I understood and walked over to WTC1 thinking I would go up to Windows on the World and have a drink and see the city from there. Again I was stopped by security in the WTC1 lobby and told that Windows was closed due to a private function. Many people were being turned away. It was obvious on that evening no one was being allowed to the upper floors. I had been to Windows many times and never had I seen it closed for a private party. I thought the whole incident unusual and just left.
When 9/11 unfolded as I watched on TV from my office in Florida I remembered the old axiom, there are no coincidences.
Edit: The events of that evening were recently illuminated from my memory when I was cleaning out some boxes and I found the flight and hotel receipts from that trip (yes, I'm a pack rat). I stared at those receipts for an hour last week recalling in vivid detail my unusual experience.
I really don't know what happened, but I sure as hell know exactly what did NOT happen.
One thing I have learnt, is that any "American official version" is a lie, from one end to the other. So with that out of the way, I am open to suggestions.
And for anyone to say that a conspiracy is impossible, because so many people are involved, and somebody will be talking. Yeah right. NSA is a prime example of that, and I agree, eventually the truth will out. The key word here is EVENTUALLY! that can be decades.
USA government, the most effective and best funded terrorist group in the entire know universe! Why would anyone believe a word of what they are saying?
Waaaaaaay beyond my comprehension!!!
best research on 9/11 i've found. Did you know they removed the bomb sniffing dogs on thursday? That there was a powerdown the weekend before 9/11? That the buildings were full of asbestos, which would have cost $1billion to rebate?
http://www.luogocomune.net/site/modules/sections/index.php?op=viewarticl...
If you don't pick #2, I've got some bad news for you. Santa Claus isn't real, Jesus wasn't God, and the tooth fairy is really your mother.
The most promising legal theory out there now http://wtfrly.com/2013/11/11/did-nist-fraudulently-omit-key-component-fr...
seems more like a structural engineering theory but thank you for the link.
Everybody knows Beiber did 911
There were "contractors" alledgedly working on the internet lines during working hours for weeks prior to 911. Many who worked there said it was not uncommon to hear loud drilling and unexplained "booms" going off somewhere on another floor. But the HEART of the 911 question should be "WHAT BROUGHT DOWN BUILDING 7?"
If you add all the "unexplained" evidence, you come up with an official problem, that the officials don't want you to know.
But the HEART of the 911 question should be "WHAT BROUGHT DOWN BUILDING 7?", Yes indeed this is the puzzle
Its like the riddle, "what falls at the freefall rate and seems to defy the laws of inertia and momentum transfer"
Why its WTC building seven, since only a controlled demoltion taking out each floor in the timed seqence form lowest floor to uppermost one, can acheive this result.
Conclusion: It was certainly an inside job! A false flag just like pearl harbor. What fool would trust any government?
It collapsed from the top and middle.
It collapsed at freefall speed
It collapsed into its own footprint
It collapsed after minimal damage and a low intensity fire of several hours.
Its collapsed resulted in a flowing cloud of pulverized concrete.
The energy to both destroy all the structural steel so the building could collapse straight down and pulverize the concrete and eject it out in a flowing cloud is more energy than existed in the entire building.
The collapse at freefall speed into its own footprint is a signature of controlled demolition.
The ejection of clouds of pulverized concrete is a signature of explosives.
There is no other conclusion for the collapse of building 7 than intentional controlled demolition.
The implications are more than most people can bear, so their minds refuse to entertain it.
"It collapsed after minimal damage and a low intensity fire of several hours."
Did you ever see the photo of the floor to ceiling flames pouirng out windows on the east wall on the 7th or 8th floor? Those flames were intense.
THAT IS NOTHING.
This one did not collapse.
http://intellectual-thoughts.com/images/China%20fire%20no%20collapse%202...
"THAT IS NOTHING.
This one did not collapse.
http://intellectual-thoughts.com/images/China%20fire%20no%20collapse%202..."
This one is a different construction than 7 World Trade.
thought for "Spinone."..
pyroclastic flows...
big billowing hot ,fast moving ,clouds of fine particles
only three ways they occur:
1 volcanos
2 underwater avalanches
3 high velocity explosives
No, those create mud flows, not pyroclastic flows. Pyro is Greek for fire, whereas;
Solid crystaline clastic detritus is not typical of turbuidite mud-flows, though some may be described as clastic, in some cases, but certainly would never be referred to as pyroclastic.
I suppose you could call a cloud from explosives 'pyroclastic', but that would also be a misuse of a defined geological term, that has a specific technical meaning that's not meant, or proper, to be applied in a non-geological context.
The term applies to the subdiscipline of volcanology, alone.
and it imploded after the BBC reported its collapse. also, larry says he "pulled" it...
and after they pulled every single video footage around the pentagon within minutes, why won't the government just show some footage of that big plane going through that small hole to shut us all up?
And Cheney not only ordered NORAD to stand down, five strange war game exercizes were scheduled, some moved, on the very same day drawing away lots of planes and placing fake radar blips to confuse air traffic controllers. There are tapes of them asking if this is real or the exercise. What are the mathematical odds of outside terrorists (1) knowing this kind of deep miitary information and timing on it?
The implications are more than most people can bear, so their minds refuse to entertain it.
Which is why instead of running up to a microphone and yelling about 9/11, we need to be running up to microphones yelling things like:
Why are there so many people on food stamps?
Why is it so hard to get a job? Why do we keep shipping jobs overseas, and bringing in more immigrants?
Why are all our politicans bought and paid for, and who owns them?
Why is our currency based on debt, who does this benefit?
Who owns the Federal Reserve?
Why do none of the theives of the financial collapse go to prison?
Why is there so much debt everywhere?
Why are we still sending Americans in Iraq and Afganastan to die and get mamed after 13 years?
I'm tired of constantly being spied on.
These type of outbursts would reach alot more people to our cause.
SMG - Okay - you guys go first.
I'll be right behind you.
Not to get technical but the WTC collapsing from the middle is consistent with standard building practice. The weakest structural components, the joist supporting the floors, are throughout the floor.
http://are320k.wordpress.com/structural-vocabulary/
oddly, *we* were also in WTC1 and WTC2 "on business" between sep 3 and sep 7, having a "private function" on the upper floors!
but we weren't able to get into the millenium hilton! maybe it was our big sucuracom t-shirts that had the concierge spooked. beats me!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Securacom
hugs,
marv
All I know is the goblins will eventually be hanging from many, many, many lampposts.
If only Snowden would release verifying evidence of that!
Snowden fails the 9/11 litmus test horribly.
The Superbowl commercial the world needed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tuyh3m0qb5o
Oklahoma City Bombing RARE footage
"Multiple bombs were found inside of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City."
FBI Hall of Shame
"Convicted Oklahoma City (OKC) bombing conspirator Terry Nichols has alleged that former high level FBI official Larry Potts gave instructions to Timothy McVeigh to orchestrate the bombing. Nichols claims McVeigh said this before the bombing in a 'slip of the tongue' when McVeigh said he was angry with Potts for 'changing the target'."
"Assistant Deputy Director of the FBI, Danny Coulson was also assigned to the OKC bombing investigation."
Was FBI early arrival in Oklahoma City?
"The FBI’s top counterterrorism agent checked into an Oklahoma City hotel nearly nine hours before a truck bomb nearly leveled the Alfred P. Murrah Building, according to a receipt obtained by WorldNetDaily, despite claims that he was in Texas the morning of the attack."
"The Embassy Suites Hotel receipt of Danny Coulson, then-director of the FBI’s Terrorist Task Force and founding commander of the bureau’s Hostage Rescue Team was dated April 19, 1995, with a check-in time of '00:20' – military time for 12:20 a.m. (Editor’s note: His last name is spelled 'Coulsen' on the receipt, but it indicates he is with the 'FBI,' located at '50 Penn Place, Suite 1600; OKC, OK.')"
Secret Police Murder and Cover-Up
"And it's great to have as our guest this morning Mr. Jesse Trentadue. Jesse is a lawyer in Salt Lake City, whose brother, Kenneth, was tortured and murdered by federal agents in a federal prison because of a case of mistaken identity involving the Oklahoma City bombing."
"The U.S. attorney conducting the hearing jumps up and says, 'Your Honor, we've got to seal this transcript.' And the court says, 'what do you mean?' And the U.S. attorney says, 'we don't want anything getting out of here that would compromise the McVeigh trial in any way.' The defense attorney at that hearing says – I'm quoting from the transcript – 'What do you mean by compromised? Do you mean shared with the McVeigh lawyers'? And the judge responds, 'Yes, or something that would come up. You know, we have got evidence that the ATF took a trip with somebody that said buildings were going to be blown up in Oklahoma City before it was blown up or something of that nature, and try to connect it with McVeigh in some way or something.'"
"That's an exact quote from a federal judge. And he orders the transcript sealed. So here you have the government acknowledging that they had known four months prior to the bombing that it was going to happen, and didn't stop it. And to me, more incredible still is that a federal judge would order that evidence sealed, not made public."
"At that point in time, he writes to then-Attorney General Ashcroft, and [Terry Nichols] tells Ashcroft, he says, 'come and see me and I will tell you all about the bombing, who was involved, to what I think was the government's role in the bombing.'"
"Now, you would think the attorney general of the United States, whether or not you believe Nichols, you would at least send someone to speak with him, if for no other reason to find out what makes people do these kinds of things. But Ashcroft doesn't send anyone to interview Nichols. Instead, he issues an order that Nichols is to have no contact with the media. And to this day, he's not allowed any contact with the media."
"But I was able to get a sworn statement from Nichols that the explosives used to detonate the bomb, which was an explosive called Kenestick, was actually provided by an FBI operative."
"I found out that PATCON was an acronym for Patriot Conspiracy."
"And PATCON is an ugly, ugly story. According to this man, that PATCON was running guns and ammunition, automatic weapons out of the same gun store in Arizona that's now the subject of the Fast and Furious scandal, and doing it in the '90s."
We know Cheney told NORAD and the Air Force to, "Stand down!" Norman Mineta testified to Congress about that.
Was it also a False Flag? Of course it was. The hijackers were not equiped to fly jumbo jets in such flight patterns. They were patsies for missles hitting the Pentagon and the planes that took WTC 1 and 2 down. Also, how can we explain Builing Seven? We can't.
There is a rouge faction of the monied elite that planned the attacks on September eleventh. Who they are, we may never know.