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The Most Boring Superbowl Ever … Until 9/11 Truth Proponent Interrupts MVP Interview
This clip has gotten a lot of media attention … almost as much as Peyton Manning explaining why the football hit his helmet on the very first play (leading to a safety, and the fastest score in superbowl history).
Winning Seahawks coach Pete Carroll also questions 9/11. As do some old-timers, like 5-time NFL Pro Bowl center Mark Stepnoski (Dallas Cowboys and Houston Oilers) and former NFL running back Bill Enyart (Buffalo Bills and Oakland Raiders).
What do you think? How many of you think:
(1) The government couldn’t have foreseen 9/11, and did everything it could to minimize the damage (while perhaps being negligent in its foresight, coordination, communication, priorities or execution)?
(2) 9/11 was an inside job carried out by rogue elements of the U.S. government as a “false flag attack“?
(3) The government knew the attack was coming, but allowed it to succeed to justify the launching of the war for oil – er, I mean the “War on Terror” – and to consolidate power and crackdown on liberties at home?
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There is a problem with patriotism George, and I am sure you are aware of it. Patriotism can be nicely conflated to nationalism, and nationalism fanned into acts of war - beware the religion of state - love your people and culture, habor a deep suspicion for those who would turn this into a tool for their own use.
Better I think to extend patriotism only so far as your community, then rely on the interactions of communities to create a national culture.
I despise America. America is a criminal enterprise.
Don't equate 'America' with the shadow elite who control it and do the awful things you object to.
If America falls, the standard of living for citizens across the globe will resemble that we see in bad side of Bejing. This is a war on the middle class.
Yes, we ARE America, and we are a good, fair-minded, hard-working, creative and tremendously productive people. We have been swindled and abused, hoodwinked and robbed, and terrible things have been done in our name, but that is not who we are.
EscapingProgress, you are young, am i right? You may not remember as some of us do the time when this land was the shining city on the hill, when the chant USA, Number One rang true, when young people thanked God for having been born an American. All my life I have watched our country being robbed and plundered, our birthright being stolen, our once proud people being reduced to debt-peons and beggars, our democracy reduced to a hollow shell. But that is not who we are, because America is an idea, a flame that still burns in our hearts.
Left and right, high and low, young and old, new heroes are starting to step forward. Thousands and then millions of unsung heroes. We are finding our way out of the swamp into which we have been led, finding our way back together, one people from many lands and many walks of life, united by a dream. We will redeem and avenge ourselves, we will heal the terrible wounds that have been inflicted on our land and on our souls, and we will reclaim America as the envy of the world, a name that will again justly swell our hearts with pride.
You will see.
Well said. I personally am gripped by a terrible rage against the poeple who have done this to America. The American people are amongst the finest I have come across and I've been just about everywhere. To see the country going down the tube before our very eyes drives me to distraction. And I'm not American.
Please read this. http://irishsavant.blogspot.ie/2014/02/my-righteous-jews-spreadsheet.html
I have already addressed this topic once on ZH, but it is important that I address it again. You/We/Me is/are not America. America is a gang. It is an extortion racket for the plebs and a protection racket for the elites. The Americans are the politicians, bureaucrats, judges, and enforcement personnel (police, soldiers, etc.). You and I are victimes of this racket. You and I are no more Americans than a victim of the Gambino crime family is a Gambino. You must understand this. There is an enormous difference between victim and member. The gov't and the people are enemies. It has always been that way, and it always will be that way.
EscapingProgress, we're talking about a word, and what it means to us.
"American" is a powerful word. It has a deep history and it's a two-edged sword. Much of its history - our side of it - has been forgotten and suppressed, and it has indeed been shamelessly claimed and massively used against us by the elites and the racketeers. But they didn't invent the meanings they put on it. Those meanings were born in our struggles and they stole them from us.
We could choose to give up the word, accept that we're all just humans trying our best. There's something to be said for that. But the word American has power, it taps into our deepest feelings of love and pride, love for each other, pride in our sacrifices and those of past generations. If we surrender the word we surrender it's power and leave it to the racketeers.
If we pick up that two-edged sword, if we claim "American" as our own, we need to be prepared to defend the meaning that WE give to it.
And we can't surrender it. It's too close to our hearts. So claim it and fight for it we must.
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re. forgotten history:
Check out The First American Revolution, Before Lexington and Concord, by Ray Raphael. Astonishing book, vital food for thought about who we "really" are.
WTF are you saying here buddy? Trying to say the country founded "For the People, By the People and Of the People" no longer exists? Is that what you are saying? Taxes negate that theory. Tax payers own this country. The govt works for the tax payers. A check is written to them from the treasury which is owned by the tax payers. You are suggesting that a silent coup has taken place. Is that what you are saying? Who are you? This isn't a country to be passed between business like a useless fraudulent financial instrument. This is the home of 300 million people. Chop it up and sell it off with the help of UN's agenda 21's inventory team acre by acre, if you must, but the day, when only the strong are left, the revolt, the fight to survive, will leave the memory of foolish rich men so sheltered and lacking in experience of life, begging for their lives at the foot of a mob the size of New Jersy. It only takes 1 disloyal person and a match.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBjQ9tuuTJQ (Pretender)
I'm saying that the "by the people, for the people" slogan is a lie. The gov't does not work for the taxpayers no matter how much you want that to be true. The taxpayers are human livestock whose wealth is extracted for the benefit of an aristocratic class of human farmers through taxation and inflation.
Creative methods have been used propaganda, blackballing oponents, redistricting, Supreme court ruling and interference tactics intended to prevent people from voting for the right leadership. Politicians lie through their teeth, talk out of both sides of the mouths, get rich as stink and live happily ever after because this is a democratic republic. Low education voters, voters who count on free crap to survive (stockholm syndrome) because they took the goddam jobs, voting on a work/school day for something like 12 hours which is absurd when your country is so important. but the less people voting the better is their motto. These men are ruthless murdering bastards.
You assume that this is not how the system was designed.
Lets roll.
Not America, only the Government.
America is the government.
It's all the citizenism ... it's in the water. Leads to terminal blobbing-up and farming the weak, extorting the poor.
Citizenism is part and package of the 'american' mattering thing. Very crusty.
you know it's bad when supporting a war effort that was doomed to fail from Day One is considered criminal.
How is an "American" suppose to make sense of "being an American" in that context?
Here's how I do it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42i-bL5bZuE
stupid fucks got into something bigger than they could handle?
that sounds like a good beginning to me...
Its no sin, just confirmation that you are Anti Establishment and/or paying attention.... The "Other 1%"
dissent is another bad word.
who would ever have thought there would be "free speech zones" supported by the courts in the usa?
the biggest hole in the .gov conspiracy theory is that skeptics only need to debunk one part of the story to expose the entire story as a hoax. if building 7 was a planned demolition (way, way too obvious. that was their oops moment.) then the towers were intentionally demolished and the whole story falls apart.
I only have one nagging thought. No conspiracy, but science. And proven truth.
How much force would it take to render two 1/4 mile tall structures to their base components?
That being said, I offer this. We have all seen controlled demolitions. Yeah there is dust everywhere, but not that much.
How much of Manhattan was 2" deep? In dust, and I will stop there. Fires in the buildings (Official) and unburnt paper everywhere.
1320 feet to nothing in 9 seconds? How much force? The official explanation, yeah, yeah?
NIST, ditto?
Physically impossible events happening is the reason why we have tin foil hats!
No? See the fourth sentence.
The truth lies in following the money that was moved prior to the towers falling. I.E. Operation Hammer.
Look it up.
93 was shot down. Check the witness remarks about the 8 mile debris field over a lake.
We've been had people. 2008 ain't got nothing on what is coming. Planned, executed, and they ain't done yet.
Us or Them? Us or Them? Time to go..............
"How much force would it take to render two 1/4 mile tall structures to their base components?"
How much weight were the top 15 floors of WTC1? Once critical failure due to fire was reached, how could total collapse have been prevented, with that much material falling down onto the rest of the building?
That being said, I offer this. We have all seen controlled demolitions. Yeah there is dust everywhere, but not that much. How much of Manhattan was 2" deep?"
Two 110 story buildings would produce a lot of dust.
"Fires in the buildings (Official) and unburnt paper everywhere."
Most of each Tower was not on fire. It makes sense that there would be unburt paper everywhere.
Every floor level structure of a building is designed to support more than twice the weight of everything above it.
"Every floor level structure of a building is designed to support more than twice the weight of everything above it."
Fire weakened the structual steel, in the fire zone, thus it no longer met its original design capability. Once catastophic failure occurred, the force of collapsing debris overcame the design capability of the floors below.
Follow the money is right. Read this about Lucky Larry http://irishsavant.blogspot.ie/2011/11/lucky-larry-luckiest-man-alive.html?zx=8b2399b135f2625a
Anyone who takes the time to study the evidence surrounding the 9/11 attacks and denies that it was an inside job is simply a fool or a liar.
It is my opinion 9-11, the Bush election, the housing bubble, dollar bubble, American bubble are all connected. It is also my believe the towers were erected to demolish exactly as they were. From all the information that I have gathered, I can say that I believe this was an act of war against the US by the elites. The elite, zinonists, Federal Reserve, the variety of secret and exclusive committees and clubs where all the same faces show up - they arethe enemy and they are, unfortunately, winning. The imagination can only grasp the possibilities for a few seconds before, gut wrenching repulsion takes over and I go to the internet and try to warn everyone. I have nothing to lose.
Hello Bun, since you are on this track, and wont stop, here is the end of the line, to save you time and trouble........ Yes they are all organized, although all the groups are not aware at all that they are, but, at the top, they are playing god, and know it, and we will have a lord on earth, and he will rule. Completely. Period.
Cruelty will end, but not until much more cruelty happens, so carpe diem, sieze the day, enjoy moments with people, stop trying to save yourself and us with data, relax and if you need a safe place to live when things get too ugly, I reccomend boston.
Frequency weapon.
either a) scalar interferometer, or b) quantum potential
"Physically impossible events happening is the reason why we have tin foil hats!"
Nothing that happened was physically impossible, otherwise it would not have happened.
"How much of Manhattan was 2" deep? In dust, and I will stop there. Fires in the buildings (Official) and unburnt paper everywhere."
The fires in the Towers were confined to upper floors. Use some critcal thinking as to unburt paper littering the ground. 110 story buildings collapsed, thus the volume of dust would have been huge.
" ... thus the volume of dust would have been huge. "
That's precisely where part of the problem seems to lie. Apparently, in case of a "natural" fall (which means no controlled demolition), the volume of rather "large" debris would have been huge, not the volume of dust.
"Apparently, in case of a "natural" fall (which means no controlled demolition), the volume of rather "large" debris would have been huge, not the volume of dust."
Factually, you are incorrect. Tons of debris crashed down onto each floor, pulverizing the contents of each floor.
Each floor level structure is designed to support more than twice the weight of everything above it.
" Tons of debris crashed down onto each floor, pulverizing the contents of each floor."
Apparently, in such a case, you would have had essentially small parts, maybe weighing from some tens of grams to some hundreds of kilograms, but not dust (well,of course, there would be some dust but not to the point of what happened in the 9/11). It's a question of energy: you need a lot of energy, applied locally, to turn concrete into dust ... something that the fall of the buildings probably could not have provided.
I wrote: "... rather "large" debris ..." , to express the fact that most of the debris, even if relatively small, would have been far larger than dust particles .
"Tons of debris crashed down onto each floor, pulverizing the contents of each floor."
"Apparently, in such a case, you would have had essentially small parts, maybe weighing from some tens of grams to some hundreds of kilograms, but not dust"
In the case ot the World Trade Towers, the tons of debris crashing down onto each floor, did pulverize the contents of each floor, including the concrete.
"I wrote: "... rather "large" debris ..." , to express the fact that most of the debris, even if relatively small, would have been far larger than dust particles"
If they would have been, then that is what the World Trade site would have looked like, but that is not what the World Trade site looked like, so tons of debris crashing down on each floor, did pulverize concrete to dust.
and each such destructive impact would absorb much energy/momentum showing the collapse. Providing that enough energy was available to turn virtually all the concrete to dust-which is ridiculous on the face of it.
"and each such destructive impact would absorb much energy/momentum showing the collapse. Providing that enough energy was available to turn virtually all the concrete to dust-which is ridiculous on the face of it."
The force of the collapsing debris sheared the floors from the flanges connecting them to the exterior walls, for one. Once the collapse began, falling debris quickly took out each floor. Obviously, there was enough gravity induced energy to pulverize the concrete to dust, as that is what happened.
" ... each such destructive impact would absorb much energy/momentum showing the collapse. "
You meant "slowing", of course .
Thanks for raising that point, I didn't think about it.
Are you stupid or a government troll/worker?
Wait, that's redundant.
use your eyeballs: the fire was already out when far below the fire explosions started slamming building materials sideways and molten metal was pouring out.
If the jet-fuel fire was not out the people would have been burned alive - yet they were standing in the open, easily seen from helicopter-mounted cameras or people IN the helicopters holding video cameras.
The official story as told is absolutely physically impossible.
The physical evidence of 9/11, especially the fire burning without oxygen underground for THIRTY DAYS, shows the precise opposite of the official story.
That burning was thermite. Nothing but NOTHING down there burns 30 days without oxygen over 1000 degrees detected with infrared cameras & broadcast on CNN.
"use your eyeballs: the fire was already out when far below the fire explosions started slamming building materials sideways and molten metal was pouring out."
The Towers were still on fire when they collapsed. So was WTC7.
A jet of smoke further down the tower, as it collapsed was not from an explosion. Explosions do not cause jets of smoke. Explosions are instantaneous.
The only molten metal pouring out, was in one window of WTC2, a few minutes before the building collapsed. Wreckage of the jetliner caused columns near there to bulge out when they were struck.
All video & photos show the fires were definitely out when the collapse started.
Explosions ABSOLUTELY cause jets of smoke, fires do not.
That smoke is debris from the outer walls & windows and the explosive material itself.
Molten metal YOU ADMIT has only one source: thermite. Jet fuel can not ever burn that hot & never has. It burns more than a thousand degrees hotter than the jet fuel could & that's the heat required.
It was DURING the collapse never before it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qitq-a9DXBU
Also: http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/thermite.php
"All video & photos show the fires were definitely out when the collapse started."
I suggest you go back and view the videos again. The buildings were still burning when they collapsed.
"Explosions ABSOLUTELY cause jets of smoke, fires do not."
A jet of smoke is under constant pressure. The jets of smoke streaming out windows below the fire in the Towers, as they collapsed, was due to smoky air being forced down through the building as the floors collapsed.
"Molten metal YOU ADMIT has only one source: thermite."
That was not thermite. There was no thermite reaction occurring at the source of the orange sparks that were falling from one window at the east end of the north wall of 2 World Trade, just before it collapsed.
There was most certainly thermite reaction - nothing else could do that - and thermite residue found.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/thermite.php
http://www.thepowerhour.com/images/9-11_thermite2.jpg
http://youtu.be/fEX0MtQkwf4
http://youtu.be/m3Oig4IbBNg
http://youtu.be/SwPqKLU0BGA
http://youtu.be/-WdFpAb_N6I
There was no pressure for jets of smoke from fire: the space was open, a giant hole from an air plane. All areas under pressure had NO fire at all. None.
This was dozens of floors BELOW the fire & the fire was ALREADY OUT. People were standing in the open space visible on camera not on fire.
Without thermite NO SPARKS HAPPEN. NONE. Jet fuel fire + metal = NO SPARKS. None. Thermite is the ONLY possible method.
I suppose you believe in bullets that can turn corners, go through 2 bodies (hitting bone in one case) that fall out of one of the victims' bodies on a gurney, in pristine condition.
"I suppose you believe in bullets that can turn corners, go through 2 bodies (hitting bone in one case) that fall out of one of the victims' bodies on a gurney, in pristine condition."
CE399 was not pristine. It was dented flat at the base, due to hitting rib bone in John Connally.
Connally was sitting on a jump seat which positioned him to the left of JFK. The bullet did not have to turn. Watch the Muchmore film as the limo turned onto Houston Street. At the point at which the limo was face on to her camera, you can see just how far inside the limo, that Connally was seated.
Just so you know: some bullets can turn corners thanks to MEMS
Sandia is now looking for private companies to develop the patent-protected system to full production. While the technology is proven, more work is needed on the right propellant to get beyond the current 2,000 meter range.
I'm talking 50 years ago.
I've seen some of the stuff about steerable bullets.
Be nice if such ingenuity was used for the good of humanity, rather than what the MIC gets up to.
Still leaves the pristine bit to be explained though!
I didn't miss the reference but I felt an up-to-date interjection would still be of value.
Yes. He needed to date November, 1963. Point taken.