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The Most Boring Superbowl Ever … Until 9/11 Truth Proponent Interrupts MVP Interview
This clip has gotten a lot of media attention … almost as much as Peyton Manning explaining why the football hit his helmet on the very first play (leading to a safety, and the fastest score in superbowl history).
Winning Seahawks coach Pete Carroll also questions 9/11. As do some old-timers, like 5-time NFL Pro Bowl center Mark Stepnoski (Dallas Cowboys and Houston Oilers) and former NFL running back Bill Enyart (Buffalo Bills and Oakland Raiders).
What do you think? How many of you think:
(1) The government couldn’t have foreseen 9/11, and did everything it could to minimize the damage (while perhaps being negligent in its foresight, coordination, communication, priorities or execution)?
(2) 9/11 was an inside job carried out by rogue elements of the U.S. government as a “false flag attack“?
(3) The government knew the attack was coming, but allowed it to succeed to justify the launching of the war for oil – er, I mean the “War on Terror” – and to consolidate power and crackdown on liberties at home?
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The government story is phyically impossible. Why did you sell your soul again? I know it's a rough job market, but surely you can do public relations work that isn't advocating and harboring evil people.
Let me tell you about a story. There was a famous journalist who supported his regime. He aided and abetted criminals in his government. His name was Julius Streicher. He was sentenced to death by hanging for war crimes. You are not immune. There will eventually be justice, and everyone involved will be tried, even regime PR people.
"When death, the great reconciler, has come, it is never our tenderness that we repent of, but our severity."
George Eliot
"The government story is phyically impossible. Why did you sell your soul again?"
There was nothing that was physically impossible. Otherwise it would not have happened. I have already debunked several false comments. If you want to talk about people selling their soul, i suggest you talk to them.
It is BIZARRE how you keep on repeating that strange assertion, moneybots!
"There was nothing that was physically impossible.
Otherwise it would not have happened."
CLEARLY, THAT STATEMENT IS TRUE BY DEFINITION.
However, as has been pointed out several times before by other people who have replied to you, moneybots, the POINT of demonstrating that something is "physically impossible" is to conclude that the official story, which requires that impossible thing to have happened, is therefore a LIE! That is, the official story about what happened on 9/11/2001 was a pack of absurd LIES, because that story requires one to believe that a bunch of physically impossible things actually happened, the ways that that official story requires must have happened, IF that story was not a LIE.
Primarily that means that steel frame building have to suddenly collapse, in ways which are physically impossible, UNLESS THERE WAS A CONTROLLED DEMOLITION INSIDE THEM!
(I guess, from a sublime point of view, I am merely wondering how your mind works, moneybots, and within that context, I am wondering whether you are being paid to be so absurdly dense, and to continue to spout such obvious logical absurdities? ... However, like I said, in my previous reply to you, there is no practical point to any such arguments, because the real world is actually being controlled by lies, backed by violence, which ancient system has been driven utterly mad by the development of weapons of mass destruction.)
"It is BIZARRE how you keep on repeating that strange assertion, moneybots!
"There was nothing that was physically impossible.
Otherwise it would not have happened."
CLEARLY, THAT STATEMENT IS TRUE BY DEFINITION.
However, as has been pointed out several times before by other people who have replied to you, moneybots, the POINT of demonstrating that something is "physically impossible" is to conclude that the official story, which requires that impossible thing to have happened, is therefore a LIE!"
The official story did not require something physically impossible to happen.
The jetliners could fly that fast, they could be piloted by hijackers who went to a cessna based flight school, well enough to keep them in the air. Passengers who called from flight 93 said that the hijacked part of the flight was rough, which confirms that airline pilots were not flying the plane, but people without a lot of experience.
The fires were started by the burning jet fuel, but the office combustibles were what fed the fire, which raged from floor to ceiling and beyond, out through the windows. The heat from the fire was hot enough to weaken the structual steel.
Once catastrophic failure occurred, there was no stopping the complete collapse of the Towers. The Towers did not collapse naturally, faster than was physically possible. It was not physically impossible for concrete poured to form the floors, to be pulverized to dust from a natural collapse.
Witesses saw a jetliner strike The Pentagon. There was some debris from the jetliner strewn on the ground outside The Pentagon. One or more light poles were knocked down and a jet engine hit a structure outside The Pentagon.
"Primarily that means that steel frame building have to suddenly collapse, in ways which are physically impossible, UNLESS THERE WAS A CONTROLLED DEMOLITION INSIDE THEM!"
Untrue. 2 World Trade collapsed in the fire zone. 1 World Trade collapsed in the fire zone. There was nothing physically impossible about fire being the cause, added onto damage caused by the planes crashing through the buildings. The fire was widesporead in the east wing of 2 World trade and the catastrophic failure caused the upper floors to lean to the east, as the collapse began. Fire was more evenly spread through 1 World Trade, as the jetliiner plowed through the center of the building. That affected it's manner of collapse.
"I guess, from a sublime point of view, I am merely wondering how your mind works, moneybots, and within that context, I am wondering whether you are being paid to be so absurdly dense, and to continue to spout such obvious logical absurdities?"
It is not me that is being dense. "Kerosine doesn't melt steel" as has been repeated countless times. So? The Towers fell because fire weakened the steel, not because it melted steel. I am not the one being illogical. I am not the one trying to force something irrelevant (kerosine doesn't melt steel), into some kind of incontrovertible proof of something that it isn't. The combustibles in the Towers produced enough heat to negatively affect the steel, causing it to fail. It is the reason that fire retardant is sprayed on structural steel. Again, i am not the one being absurdly dense.
Nor am i being paid by anyone, to post on Zero Hedge or any other web site.
It is physically impossible and it DID NOT HAPPEN.
What actually happened is 3 buildings were taken down by thermite & explosives and 2 planes didn't hit 3 buildings NOR did fire from jet fuel melt any steel. Proof time & time again has debunked your story & the official government story. On Earth not one person ever IN ALL HISTORY has been able to melt steel with jet fuel. None. Not one.
Why was the area not sealed off and treated as a crime scene.
The law was broken in a big way just by that fact alone.
The big queation is WHY?
Maybe USS New York should be tested for nanothermite?
No steel allowed for forensic testing, but some kept track of for propaganda purposes????
Give me a break. I was born at night, but not last night.
The Litmus Test
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21pPpYw_axQ
For sure that won't become another nipplegate in the media.
Having extensive experience in aviation accident investigation, provides me with the skill to analyse the pentagon attack, for me it's the smoking gun. No large aircraft hit the pentagon. That said, what others lies have be told by the Government / 9-11 Commission.
One non-truth leads to more questions.
Max
A bit more evidence of your so-called expertise would be appreciated.
He's a guy on the internet proclaiming expertise, surely thats enough ;-)
MaxThrust, I liked this presentation on that topic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fvJ8nFa5Qk
9/11 Pentagon Attack - Behind the Smoke Curtain
- Barbara Honegger
That presentation was on January 12, 2013, about what happened and what didn't happen at the Pentagon on September 11, 2001. Honegger reviews her conclusions regarding who ran the 9/11/2001 inside job, false flag attack. At about the 2:15 mark in that video, she states the 9/11 was not merely an evil plot, it was a diabolical plot, and at about the 2:19 mark, she states that "The Insider 9/11 Plot Was the Highest Evil."
"No large aircraft hit the pentagon"
Witnesses saw an American Airlines jetliner hit The Pentagon.
http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/photos/yardparts.html
http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/photos/hullpiece.html
Actually what they saw was a remote controlled military craft hit them
"Actually what they saw was a remote controlled military craft hit them"
It was an American Airlines jetliner.
People can think they saw many things, just as they did during the radio broadcast of the "War of The Worlds'. That is a problem with 'eye-witnesses' unfortunately.
"People can think they saw many things, just as they did during the radio broadcast of the "War of The Worlds'. That is a problem with 'eye-witnesses' unfortunately."
A jetliiner with an America Airlines paint scheme was to big to mistake as something elese.
yet NON EXISTENT martians were cleary seen by hundreds of people that went as far as calling local authorities about it. Some people see what they are told to see in effect.
No, witnesses who were IN THE PENTAGON came outside & saw NO PLANE DEBRIS. No plane hit the pentagon.
Not even the smell of jet fuel.
http://youtu.be/88JQL4esHFg
"No, witnesses who were IN THE PENTAGON came outside & saw NO PLANE DEBRIS. No plane hit the pentagon.
Not even the smell of jet fuel."
Photos show military people picking up the airliner debris and early photos of the fire show airliner debris on the ground. A jetliner hit The Pentagon, witnesses outside the Pentagon saw it do so.
These photos do not exist.
I dare you to try to show even one of them.
NO debris, no airliner, no fire.
Witnesses outside the Pentagon directly reported the absence of these things. No plane, no fuel, no fire.
"These photos do not exist.
I dare you to try to show even one of them.
NO debris, no airliner, no fire.
Witnesses outside the Pentagon directly reported the absence of these things. No plane, no fuel, no fire."
The photos are on the internet. Witnesses outside The Pentagon saw the jetliner strike the building. Security camera photos that were released showed the fireball caused by burning jet fuel.
These photos are not on the Internet. They do not exist. You won't link one because all searches & all blogs turn up nothing. Government has never released such a photo, ever.
Security cameras show a MISSILE impact, including showing the missile - no jet, no jet fuel. No debris whatsoever.
Not one witness ever has said he/she saw a plane hit the Pentagon. Several witness absolutely declare seeing no plane, seeing empty space without debris where a plane must be IF a plane hit. Nothing.
April Gallup is one of those witnesses. No plane.
Some of the survivors smelled cordite instead. It must have been the first cordite fueled airliner instead.
You solved the mystery!! We finally found the ter'rist!
It is clear from you previous comments, moneybots, that you are emotionally unwilling to look at the available information more objectively, and comprehensively, (or perhaps you are a paid troll, since one could barely tell the difference.)
There are now available better, painstaking documentaries, which have attempted to interview all the witnesses. E.g., http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/911-eyewitness/ ... Yes, there were witnesses that thought they saw things, ... but one has to sift through lots more information to gain more perspective upon anything like that.
Meanwhile, there were dozens and dozens of security cameras whose recordings were all confiscated, and whose images were never made public. The refusal to make that evidence public raises serious question. Anyway, I believe that a missile hit the Pentagon, not a plane, while a plane made a fly-by to cover that up.
"Anyway, I believe that a missile hit the Pentagon, not a plane, while a plane made a fly-by to cover that up."
Witesses SAW the jetliner strike The Pentagon.
moneybots, The Heart provided a link to a short segment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvyQ0vVwjqc
from a longer documentary that took a long hard look at all the eyewitness reports about the Pentagon related events on 9/11. I watched the whole thing, which contributed to my view that I believe that a missile hit the Pentagon, not a plane, while a plane made a fly-by to cover that up.
All of my opinions regarding 9/11 are the result of spending thousands of hours looking at the available information, since 2006. In my view, your views, moneybots, are either due to you being emotionally incapable of facing the facts as a whole, or else you are being paid to troll and present logical fallacies, which you seem to repeat throughout all your replies.
The bigger picture regarding 9/11 and Pentagon, I repeat, was reviewed well here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fvJ8nFa5Qk
9/11 Pentagon Attack - Behind the Smoke Curtain
- Barbara Honegger
That presentation was on January 12, 2013, about what happened and what didn't happen at the Pentagon on September 11, 2001. Honegger reviews her conclusions regarding who ran the 9/11/2001 inside job, false flag attack. At about the 2:15 mark in that video, she states the 9/11 was not merely an evil plot, it was a diabolical plot, and at about the 2:19 mark, she states that "The Insider 9/11 Plot Was the Highest Evil."
OF COURSE, I RECOGNIZE THE BIGGER PARADOXES IN WHICH 9/11 TRUTH TAKES PLACE, WHICH ARE THAT THE REAL WORLD IS CONTROLLED BY LIES, BACKED BY VIOLENCE.
THEREFORE, I CONCEDE, moneybots, THAT THOSE WHO WERE BEHIND MAKING 9/11 HAPPEN ARE TRILLIONS OF TIMES BETTER AT BEING DECEITFUL, AND BACKING THAT UP WITH DESTRUCTION, THAN I WILL EVER BE ... THEREFORE, I CONCEDE THAT THEY (IF THEY WANTED TO) WOULD BE ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE MORE ABLE TO MURDER ME, THAN I WOULD BE TO BE ABLE TO MURDER THEM FIRST.
It is inside of that context that I read your replies ... The great paradox of developing weapons of mass destruction is that there are no longer any sane ways to fight either wars, nor violent revolutions. Rather, our civilization is terminally screwed, and headed towards mad self-destruction. Personally, I see no practical point in promoting more "9/11 Truth" in that context, other than due to a sublime, abstract desire to try to understand the world ... which serves no practical purpose, since the systems of lies backed by violence do not care about "truth" ... Rather they deliberately ignore evidence and logical arguments, because the only thing that they really care about is being able to continue to back up their lies with violence.
Hence, it does not surprise me that there are people like you, moneybots, who steadfastly continue to ignore the overwhelming abundance of evidence and logical arguments that all add up to the conclusions that 9/11 was an inside job. After all, the reason why the established systems keep on going and going is that they ARE LIES BACKED BY VIOLENCE, WHICH DO NOT CARE ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE BUT CONTINUING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT!
Since I can not imagine any sane and practical way to do anything to actually change that situation, I merely indulge in "truth for truth's sake" regarding 9/11, which otherwise has no practical point that I am aware of ... since there is nothing going to stop the runaway insanities of the combined money/murder systems driving themselves through towards they own eventual psychotically mad self-destruction ... about which I can actually do nothing whatsoever to change.
Indeed, I repeat, that the only real result from promoting more "9/11 Truth" is that those who do so will probably be murdered when the democidal martial law that has been prepared by those who actually did 9/11 finally gets implemented. After the development of weapons of mass destruction, continuing to play the old militarism games, of backing up deceits with destruction has become collectively suicidal ... but that is not going to change anything, since the people actually doing that are like you, moneybots ... They will continue to be able to deliberately ignore any evidence and logic whose conclusions they do not like ... for instance that real wars, and real violent revolutions, will result in everyone losing!
"moneybots, The Heart provided a link to a short segment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvyQ0vVwjqc
from a longer documentary that took a long hard look at all the eyewitness reports about the Pentagon related events on 9/11. I watched the whole thing, which contributed to my view that I believe that a missile hit the Pentagon, not a plane, while a plane made a fly-by to cover that up."
People SAW the jetliner strike the building. It was not a missile. A missile would have caused damage in a specific way and the damage pattern does not support it having been a missile.
They are still running scared which may be hopeful, maybe not. The comments on this article are proof in my mind. ~13 years ago the event occured, yet in real time, the paid trolls swarm on this article. Reading all the comments, I can't but help notice the verbiage, the talking points, nothing has changed in 13 years. They have a script that has not changed in 13 years. Who can find these articles, and deliver propaganda personel to this article 13 years later. That is in an interesting question itself.
"Reading all the comments, I can't but help notice the verbiage, the talking points, nothing has changed in 13 years. They have a script that has not changed in 13 years. Who can find these articles, and deliver propaganda personel to this article 13 years later. That is in an interesting question itself."
There have been quite a few comments to debunk. Despite photographs of airliner debris on the lawn at The Pentagon, people still repeat the false claim that no airliner hit the building.
http://www.twf.org/News/Y2005/0307-Pentagon.html
Above is a compilation of information and photos of Pentagon on 911
Below is Rumsfeld helping out after the strike...errr ... crash. Taking and saving lives. Then off to pick up the scrap metal (or was it in the ambulance and was he laying remnants down on the lawn?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipxiGjgA5Xs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae63iivRHt8
More Pentagon footage and observations for your perusal.
Rumsfeld who on the day before testified before congress vast sums of money have gone unaccounted for.
but you know all this - you are just dickin with us
"but you know all this - you are just dickin with us "
I certainly know who is and it is not me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvyQ0vVwjqc
Your claims are the ones which have been debunked thousands of times.
Not a shred of evidence backs one of your statements, not for one second, not one atom of material.
Yet tons of evidence, literally metric tons, proves your assertions & that of the US government to be absolutely not physical reality.
"Your claims are the ones which have been debunked thousands of times."
No they haven't.
You just keep pretending. I showed you a video of zero twisting as WTC 7 fell and you said "it twisted" yet the video shows a straight fall with no twisting.
You get debunked then you pretend you are blind.
"You just keep pretending. I showed you a video of zero twisting as WTC 7 fell and you said "it twisted" yet the video shows a straight fall with no twisting.
You get debunked then you pretend you are blind."
I have not been debunked. The eastern north wall of 7 World Trade twisted to the north as the global collapse occured. Floors below the east penthouse had collapsed underneath it, causing the east penthouse to collapse. Lateral support did not exist there when the global collapse began. I suggest you go back and look at video of the north side of 7 World Trade as it collapsed.
Nearly every real estate transaction that takes place in this country provides the purhasing/leasing party the opportunity to inspect the physical characteristics of the target property in order to determine the financial viability of the purchase/lease.
A billion dollar long term lease of a piece of property with acknowledged asbestos issues would be an extreme example of that practice.
The Twin Towers and Building 7 were wired for demolition thoughout the summer of 2001 duringe the negotiations between the Port Authority and Silverstein Properties. The people who were murdered in those towers let the murderers into their offices and probably held the latters for the pricks under the illusion that they needed to get a look at the deck above for the due diligence being performed on the building.
Tell that story to any experienced Commercial/Industrial Real Estate Broker and watch their brain go tilt as it all comes together in their mind. The look on their faces is incredible, I do it all the time.
"The Twin Towers and Building 7 were wired for demolition thoughout the summer of 2001 duringe the negotiations between the Port Authority and Silverstein Properties."
That is quite a fantasy.
Except the nyfd says that the explosions were coming from inside the elevators
"Except the nyfd says that the explosions were coming from inside the elevators"
When the jetliner struck WTC1, it broke elevator cables and burning jet fuel poured down elevator shafts.
"That’s the first thing that got me. That and in front of one of the big elevator banks in the lobby was a desk and I definitely made out one of the corpses to be a security guard because he had a security label on his jacket. I’m assuming that maybe he was at a table still in a chair and almost completely incinerated, charred all over his body, definitely dead. And you could make out like a security tag on his jacket. And I remember seeing the table was melted, but he was still fused in the chair and that elevator bank was melted, so I imagine the jet fuel must have blown right down the elevator shaft and I guess caught the security guard at a table, I guess at some type of checkpoint."
"(Vasana) Mutuanot was in the lobby of Tower One when she heard the first explosion. Thinking it was a bomb like the terrorist attack in 1993, she turned to run, looking over her shoulder as flames leaped from a freight elevator shaft cooking her back and legs and right cheek. "It was a fireball with sand and heat, like a hurricane of fire," she said."
“I saw a couple of elevators in free fall; you could hear them whizzing down and as they crashed, there was this huge explosion, like a fireball exploding out of the bank of elevators,” Kravette said. “People were engulfed in flames.”
The condition of the buildings, a new owner loaded up on insurance for a 'terrorist' attack and trying to put in multiple claims... all that is only ONE aspect of 9/11.
Follow the money. A number of high level investigations into financial crimes came to an abrupt halt on 9/11 (including that missing $2 trillion in the Pentagon). A few hundred billion in T-Bills that weren't supposed to exist got cleared the following day onder emergency measures (Cantor Fitzgerald was the biggest firm trading government securiotioes - lots of evidence went up in dust there). Not to mention vaults in teh basement that ended up empty..... 9/11 was very convenient for a lot of people (none of whom were Muslim).
Of course 9/11 was a Godsend to those who'd been trying to gut the Constitution for years and the neo-cons who wanted never-ending war in the Middle East with the US dominating oil fields for the next century (though the incompetent morons blew that).
9/11 is a perfect example to show how 'much' your government 'cares' about you.
12 Sept - the air's fine, just go about your business as if nothing happened.
In the next 20 years, the asbestos exposure, that could have been at least somewhat mitigated, will kill at least 10 times as many people as the event itself.
Got to keep the money moving..... fuck the little people.
mesothelioma can take 50 years but your grim point is right on.
That would be ladders they were holding for the pricks rather than latters. For the sake of accuracy.
Means, Motive and OPPORTUNITY.
Excellent, fresh perspective. Thanks.
We boycott the NFL .They are vaccine pushing, anti gun activists.
Screw them.
I've posted it here before. There is a difference between intent and capability. Read it.
http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/26430.html