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Reddit Censors Big Story About Government Manipulation and Disruption of the Internet

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The moderators at the giant r/news reddit (with over 2 million readers) repeatedly killed the Greenwald/Snowden story on government manipulation and disruption of the Internet … widely acknowledged to be one of the most important stories ever leaked by Snowden.

Similarly, the moderators at the even bigger r/worldnews reddit (over 5 million readers) repeatedly deleted the story, so that each new post had to start over at zero.

For example, here are a number of posts deleted from r/news (click any image for much larger/clearer version):

Related posts from other sites – like 21stCenturyWire – were deleted as well:

And here are a number of the posts deleted by the moderators of r/worldnews:

Write-ups of the same story from other sites – like Zero Hedge – were also deleted:

Two Redditors provide further information on the censorship of this story:

This isn’t the first time Reddit moderators have been caught censoring:

Source links: Here, here, here, here, here and here.

 

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Wed, 02/26/2014 - 21:00 | 4482815 ChacoFunFact
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why does the word "Ashkenazi " have the word Nazi in it?

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 17:52 | 4482127 lakecity55
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Reddit and forget it.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 16:58 | 4481801 dizzyfingers
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Reddit, trying to stuff 5 pounds of poop into a 1-pound bag.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 16:31 | 4481631 Blood Spattered...
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I'm sure there was an arrangement made after Obama's AMA on Reddit.  Never seen so many softballs lobbed towards an interviewee before.

 

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 11:15 | 4480004 Shizzmoney
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Aaron Swartz is rolling in his grave.

BTW this is why Twitter is so useful.  Reddit is a bubble in itself.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 11:12 | 4479986 Duc888
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Yea, because Reddit is such a paragon of free speech.

Too funny.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 16:16 | 4481549 Pickleton
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Isn't reddit a left wing outfit?  Left wing is pretty synonymous with censorship in the first place.

 

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 17:19 | 4481957 Mi Naem
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They most certainly do not have any monopoly on censorship, they only call it by other more innocuous sounding names.

Experienced left-wing activists tend to be more linguistically sophisticated, using euphmisms, various NLP tactics, etc.  That way, you can censor yourself, and think that you are just being civil, sensitive, and respectful.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 20:35 | 4482712 satoshi123
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Yep, thank god that ZH doesn't censor, ban or delete anybody or anything they find objectionable to the circle jerk.

Thank god.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 10:28 | 4479789 thurstjo63
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The real question is why do people continue to use Reddit?

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:53 | 4480475 fuu
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There are actually some useful subreddits for particular interests. /r/worldnews and /r/news have been jokes forever.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:10 | 4480258 Bananamerican
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Because some people have a deep seated need to feel incredibly witty and hip

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 09:59 | 4479680 Frostfan1
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Interesting observation, GW.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 09:54 | 4479666 rsnoble
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I've never looked at reddits site.  

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 10:12 | 4479735 NYPoke
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Neither have I, but the CIA has been doing this since WWII.  Good chance somebody has been doing it since the Civil War.

 

Interesting but expected.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:52 | 4480238 SameAsItEverWas
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Neither have I, but the CIA has been doing this since WWII.  Good chance somebody has been doing it since the Civil War.

Try Charlemagne.  Imposition of centrally-defined "thought" has been continuous since the Middle Ages, courtesy of the Vatican.

Read Harry Elmer Barnes, History and Social Intelligence, published 1926.  Title is euphemistic because it would not have found a publisher if he had called it "History and Social Stupidity" ... but that is exactly what the most excellent book is about.

Per later work by Barnes (see Cato Paper 12), Professors Langer and Gleason received huge grants from the-then War Department and OSS for writing their college history textbooks.  Foundations like Carnegie, Pew, and Rockefeller then took up the slack.

And, per Barnes citing Stephen Spender, the original title of George Orwell's most-known novel was the unpublishable "Nineteen Forty-Eight," the year Orwell hoped would see its publication.  BTW, Barnes died in 1968.  Cato Paper 12 is hard to find, but you can find his other books for cheap, of course not at Amazon.  The Pro-Slander Legion has pretty much eliminated all positive mentions of Barnes for decades before the internet even existed.  No lie that. 

SameAsItEverWas

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 09:28 | 4479593 Johnny Cocknballs
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I think this capture is the key one.

It specifically mentions similar mod-methods to suppress the story about the NSA raw data share with Israel.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/11/nsa-americans-personal-data...

The importance of the 'raw' aspect of this sigint sharing can not be overemphasized, yet recall that the NYT editor decided not to cover this story, either.

http://publiceditor.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/09/16/guardian-story-on-israe...

This wasn't the only NSA/Israel story that went mostly unreported in the MSM.

Shady Companies With Ties to Israel Wiretap the U.S. for the NSA

 

Let's pull off this band aid quickly - both the NYT and Reddit are owned by Jews, and largely managed by them, and they tend to simply not cover stories which are negative about Israel.  Just ask the Palestinians.

Can anyone name a single major news station, news paper, or internet news hub that is not owned or managed entirely or largely {over 25%} by Jews - who, to highlight why this query has merit, are often pro-Israel biased and only 2.6% of our population? 

I think it is an eminently fair question. For those who don't - I think you're either fundamentally dishonest and hypocritical, or haven't actually thought through why, as to news coverage, it is valid to worry about bias, particularly given the outsized influence of Jewish/pro-Israel lobby groups on US foreign policy. Apart from this kind of bias, over-representation by any cohesive minority group means that the majority and other minorities are under-represented and have much less of a voice in our news media.

 

 

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 21:37 | 4482979 Absinthe Minded
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Before you all get your cocknballs in an uproar listen to the man. If you happen to be Jewish he is not saying you are doing anything wrong. It is the douchebag .01% er Jewish who are running our country into the ground. There is no doubt the Jewish elite have their fingers in every dirty fuckin' scheme you can think of. If you take out all the bankers I hae to say it but it is probably going to be 75% Jews.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 16:17 | 4481555 Pickleton
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The Blaze.

Tho your anti-semitism would make the owner of the Blaze cringe.

 

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 17:37 | 4482041 Johnny Cocknballs
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What is the antisemitic portion of the post, precisely, and why do you know it is both untrue and hateful, and devoid of any other content?

I bet you can't summon anything like a colorable argument based on what is actually written.  But I'll happily watch you try....

As discussed below, the inevitable allegations of anti-Jewish hate are absurd.  You're insipid, predictable smear just goes to the idea that you can not question not just disproportionate, but very highly disporportionate ownership, management, and control of major media by a cohesive minority group many of whom have allegiance [primary or secondary] to a foreign state locked in conflict with its neighbors.

So if you're going to use the very fucking smear under discussion, kindly provide the basis for it.

It's only polite.

 

Also the blaze is hardly "major"

 

I think it is an eminently fair question. For those who don't - I think you're either fundamentally dishonest and hypocritical, or haven't actually thought through why, as to news coverage, it is [not] valid to worry about bias, particularly given the outsized influence of Jewish/pro-Israel lobby groups on US foreign policy. Apart from this kind of bias, over-representation by any cohesive minority group means that the majority and other minorities are under-represented and have much less of a voice in our news media.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 16:57 | 4481799 The_Dude
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It's anti-semitic to ask questions now?

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 17:21 | 4481969 GeoffreyT
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It's anti-Ashkenazi to mention the J-, Z-, and I- words in anything other than fawning praise about native intelligence or oppression (received, not perpetrated) or bravery in the face of existential threats from nasty brown folks.

And if you give the slightest indication that you give a fuck about the poor brown bastards whose land has been stolen off them by a bunch of white blue-eyed eastern European rabbit-eaters with zero genetic link to the land they claim was promised to them by an invisible Sky Fairy (in exchange for genital mutilation), you're pretty much saying that they should all be sent to the ovens.

 

Anyone who ever uses the 'anti-S' word reveals that they should not be taken seriously.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 20:42 | 4482735 satoshi123
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Well 'palestinians' are semitic, yet its anti-semitic to support palestinians and their 'right of return'

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All is illogical, that is for damn sure, but its clear that over-use of Z-, AI-, and  J- get's you banned and deleted here on ZH.

Another point you all might be missing is that ZH lives for google clicks, e.g. ad-nickels, and once a site has a large use of Z-, J-, and AIP-, then they get dropped in rankings and that is KISS-OF-DEATH for ABC-MEDIA and ZH.

ZH tunes this site for the 'sweet-spot' where it can be controversial enough to get visits which leads to nickels, but they censor anybody that jepardizes their ranking.

It's obvious that they have some kind of 'warning system' that scans these sites and count's frequence of use of J-, A-, Z-, and if its over a threshold then ZH acts and quick.

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In summary the real enemy here is GOOGLE, as its google that controls the DEBATE, because all these dumb whores running websites only want to suck the google tit, and GOOGLE is a NSA(AIPAC/MOSSAD) company.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:41 | 4480352 SameAsItEverWas
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Can anyone name a single major news station, news paper, or internet news hub that is not owned or managed entirely or largely {over 25%} by Jews - who, to highlight why this query has merit, are often pro-Israel biased and only 2.6% of our population? 

Easy.  Rupert Murdoch ain't no Jew.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 17:25 | 4482000 GeoffreyT
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Incorrect. Murdoch is halachically Jewish (i.e., through his mother): if you think that had no bearing in his (and his father's) access to capital throughout their careers, and his 'benign' treatment during the period when he was close to bankruptcy, you really need to think again.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 17:38 | 4482048 Johnny Cocknballs
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I don;t know, and I'd provisionally accept Fox - but Fox is about the most Zionist outfit going, and havin a non-jewish face to it doesnt mean there isnt heavy zionist and jewish influence within the org... it suggests it is there.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 13:59 | 4480805 Creepy Lurker
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Hmm.. I've heard that said so many times - that the supposed Jewish lock on media is disproven by Murdoch not being a Jew. But check this out: http://www.nndb.com/people/420/000023351/

Scroll all the way to the bottom of the page. How reliable is this website? Will anyone vouch for it?

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 13:04 | 4480533 DaveyJones
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no, he's just a pro imperialist, yellow journalist, go establishment kind of guy

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 10:05 | 4479705 Frostfan1
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Your question isn't unfair but you're cherry picking.  NYC has always had a huge Jewish population and most of the media that people read is based there so why use a 2.6% number?  I don't know if the Jewish population of NYC is 25% now but in the past, I think it was.   No one forces you to read or listen from these outlets anyway.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 17:01 | 4481839 The_Dude
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Yes...but it is force-fed to my neighbors....so I have to be concerned.....

The brain washing of America continues and your response is to have those with any recognition/understanding of the issue to go away....sounds like a perfectly planned partitioning of a society so TPTB can continue to control it.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 11:28 | 4480042 Johnny Cocknballs
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it's not "cherry picking" at all, but I do take your point - NYC has a higher pop/% of Jewish people and so does LA and theres also probably a strong correlation to owners/editors from these two cities.

But it doesn't explain the level of over-representation.

My concern here is really people getting a very warped picture of Israeli spying, crimes, etc.  There's no question there is a pro-Israel bias and whitewash in media.  All you have to do is dedicate some time reading about the occupation and ethnic cleansing of Palestine.

 

The junkers likely don't have an argument to why the question is unfair.  They just use a double standard - questions that would be fair to ask about any other group are not fair to ask of one particular wealthy and powerful minority.

That naked hypocrisy is something I will always call bullshit on, even if the dumb fuckers are brainwashed binary thinkers who will inevitably go to the inane 'antisemite' smear.

 

Fuck 'em.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 15:20 | 4481263 Itgoestoeleven
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Johnny,

When the time comes and the military is called to handle things. I bet  there are no jews in charge. Mostly christian white men. Nobody is out to get you personally. They have power and want more. they don't care about ethnicity, race or religion. They want to exercise power. If they can get people to rally under a certain flag and do the dirty work that's great for them.  Thinking the enemy is a certain race or of a certain culture blinds you from the fact that all people suck. 

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 16:17 | 4481552 Creepy Lurker
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Err...

Have you googled 'generals replaced by Obama' recently? The replacements are certainly of a different culture than previously. It's the culture of the Left.

But even so, the military commanders have civilian superiors. Those civilians want to make sure they are obeyed.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 10:01 | 4479686 Frostfan1
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What's the Jewish ownership of USA Today and The Washington Post?

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 11:36 | 4480078 Johnny Cocknballs
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usa today the publisher is Jewish, but it's owned by Gannett {not} - I dunno about upper management and the staff editors, but I would be surprised if there weren't many Jewish people in their ranks.

but the editor and publisher of the W Post are both Jewish.  Jeff Bezos bought it last year, before that and for years it was owned by the Graham family who are Jewish - descended from Eugene Meyer.  I will presume many of their mid level editors are Jewish as well.

 

Try to see how many Muslim managing editors or publishers or owners you can find.

Or Catholics.

Or Italians.

 

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 09:21 | 4479576 Agstacker
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Fuck Reddit, I quit reading that shit years ago.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 08:19 | 4479471 Disenchanted
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Has everyone already forgotten the "Persona Management Software" story that came out in 2010/2011?

Why is this Greenwald/and Paypal pal website story such an earth shattering revelation?

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 07:43 | 4479399 ThisIsBob
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The front page of Reddit this morning has two stories on this with  over 3,000 comments.  Both stories posted yesterday.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 08:47 | 4479519 El Hosel
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Is this a bigger story than the constant manipulation distruption of the Markets?.... Bonds, Stocks, Currency, Metals ,Energy, FUTURES.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 05:11 | 4479321 Bloodstock
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Funny thing about it is that they still think we're all stupid. Dam figured them out a long, long, time ago.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:36 | 4480387 SameAsItEverWas
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Funny thing about it is that they still think we're all stupid.

Sad thing is that almost everyone really is stupid!  And I can be specific by saying that "almost everyone" means at least the central 2-sigma, which is close enough to the "magic number" 95%.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 12:48 | 4480445 Bloodstock
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Perhaps you are part of that central 2-sigma, but I would like to believe not. However your participation in the George Goebbels notion of "if you tell a lie often enough it becomes truth" alludes to you being dumb enough to think that many are stupid. Nah, people are a lot smarter than they are given credit for. Check your controlled apathy at the door.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 13:58 | 4480529 SameAsItEverWas
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Perhaps the lady doth protest too much.

Go read some Barnes (1889—1968); you'll see! 

Like I said, you'd need to get the books because he's been totally scrubbed for long before TCP/IP was even invented.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 05:07 | 4479315 Bloodstock
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So much of the big shit is a big turd. That should be your first indication. Lots of shit turds to sift through gets messy sometimes.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 03:46 | 4479249 jackstraw001
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Wasn't one of the Reddit guys suicided a few years back after standing against this sort of thing?

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 04:44 | 4479293 janus
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he had a name...

his name was Aaron Swartz.

tptb, can you see my kneck-veins throbbin?

you buncha murderous thugs.

you make janus think very, very, very bad thoughts.

read your Bibles, tptb...

"temptation would not but come into the world/

but WOE unto them through whom temptation commeth",

janus

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 07:46 | 4479422 disabledvet
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information liberation movement.

was caught downloading proprietary information at MIT vis a vis basic research they were looking into.

That guy was no whistleblower but a "cyber terrorist." and yes he committed suicide.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 16:33 | 4481655 Blood Spattered...
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Sounds like you were mentally disabled well before any involvement in the military.

Go find another website to shill at, military scum.

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 14:24 | 4480918 janus
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DV,

i respect you too much to get raw with you...but in this case you're just wrong.

his father, an MIT professor, doesn't think he offed himself (but withdrew his assertion when tptb at MIT came down with a hammer on his tenure and/or pension), his girlfriend doens't think so...

this is a young man with LOTS to say; and you think he'd pass without a so much as a note?  much less a goddam manifesto?!?

again, i'm not going to get into any more of this...i feel my blood pressure starting to spike already. 

i'll only say, in light of other things you've written, that you should know better than this, DV.

and, help me if you could, please share with us all the supposed means by which he snuffed himself.  was it pills?  no indication.  did he hang himself?  did he jump from a building?  did he shoot himself four times in the head?  what?

but, sure, a young man who'd devoted so much of his time and resources would just off himself right before he got his day in court.  sure.

qui bono?

well, it's clear to anyone with a couple electrons dancin in their noggin that the US attorneys stood to benefit.  they get the presumed conviction in abstention and rid amorica of a a big-time trouble-maker.

btw, the research he downloaded had nothing to do with patents in development; nor was it in anyway sensitive to national interests.

Aaron Swartz was a patriot and hero (a real one).

{ps, Aaron, you're getting a dedication in my book...but that's nothing new, it was decided long ago}

these people have so much innocent blood on their hands i can smell it from here...makes me violently ill.

janus

Wed, 02/26/2014 - 14:53 | 4481105 g speed
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of course they have blood on thier hands --thats how you get power in the world---you do murder--

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