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CIA Spies On Senate Intelligence Committee In Effort to Block Senate Report On Disastrous CIA Torture Program

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A devastating and secret report by the Senate Intelligence Committee documents in detail how the C.I.A.’s brutalization of terror suspects during the Bush years was unnecessary, ineffective, and deceptively sold to Congress, the White House, Justice Department, and the public.

The CIA has long fought to keep the report secret.

That's not surprising, given that torture is wholly illegal (and see this).

And that the CIA's torture program ended up deceiving the 9/11 Commission. Specifically, the 9/11 Commission Report was largely based on third-hand accounts of what tortured detainees said, with two of the three parties in the communication being government employees.  The 9/11 Commissioners were not allowed to speak with the detainees, or even their interrogators. Instead, they got their information third-hand.  The Commission itself didn’t really trust the interrogation testimony ... yet published it as if it were Gospel.

New York Times investigative reporter Philip Shenon Newsweek noted in a 2009 essay in Newsweek that the 9/11 Commission Report was unreliable because most of the information was based on the statements of tortured detainees.

As NBC News reported:

  • Much of the 9/11 Commission Report was based upon the testimony of people who were tortured
  • At least four of the people whose interrogation figured in the 9/11 Commission Report have claimed that they told interrogators information as a way to stop being “tortured.”
  • One of the Commission’s main sources of information was tortured until he agreed to sign a confession that he was NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO READ
  • The 9/11 Commission itself doubted the accuracy of the torture confessions, and yet kept their doubts to themselves

Indeed, the type of torture used by the U.S. on the Guantanamo suspects was of a "special" type. Senator Levin revealed that the the U.S. used Communist torture techniques specifically aimed at creating false confessions. And see these important reports from McClatchy, New York Times, CNN and Huffington Post.

CIA Goes to Great Lengths to Cover Up Torture

The CIA has already gone to great lengths to cover up the torture ... and the unreliability of the testimony published by the 9/11 Commission.

The CIA has blocked release of the Senate's torture report for years. But it has taken many other actions to try to keep the lid on the torture program.

For example, the CIA videotaped the interrogation of 9/11 suspects, but  falsely told the 9/11 Commission that there were no videotapes or other records of the interrogations, and then illegally destroyed all of the tapes and transcripts of the interrogations.

9/11 Commission co-chairs Thomas Keane and Lee Hamilton wrote:

Those who knew about those videotapes — and did not tell us about them — obstructed our investigation.

 

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Government officials decided not to inform a lawfully constituted body, created by Congress and the president, to investigate one the greatest tragedies to confront this country. We call that obstruction.

(And the chairs of both the 9/11 Commission and the Official Congressional Inquiry into 9/11 said that Soviet-style government “minders” obstructed the investigation into 9/11 by intimidating witnesses.  We believe that some of the minders were from the CIA.)

Spying On Its Overseers In Washington

In the last 24 hours, the New York Times and McClatchy have published stories revealing that the CIA is spying on the Senate Intelligence Committee, as part of its efforts to block release of its torture report.

McClatchy reports:

The CIA Inspector General’s Office has asked the Justice Department to investigate allegations of malfeasance at the spy agency in connection with a yet-to-be released Senate Intelligence Committee report into the CIA’s secret detention and interrogation program, McClatchy has learned.

 

The criminal referral may be related to what several knowledgeable people said was CIA monitoring of computers used by Senate aides to prepare the study. The monitoring may have violated an agreement between the committee and the agency.

 

The development marks an unprecedented breakdown in relations between the CIA and its congressional overseers amid an extraordinary closed-door battle over the 6,300-page report on the agency’s use of waterboarding and harsh interrogation techniques on suspected terrorists held in secret overseas prisons. The report is said to be a searing indictment of the program. The CIA has disputed some of the reports findings.

Tech Dirt argues:

In many ways, the idea that the CIA is directly spying on the Senate Committee charged with its own oversight is a bigger potential scandal than many of the Snowden NSA revelations so far.

We partially agree … although the NSA has also been spying on (and perhaps even blackmailing)  its “overseers” in Washington.

 

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Thu, 03/06/2014 - 07:23 | 4515913 pc_babe
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Honestly Tyler ... soaking a few ass-sniffing Islamists, who cares.  They are trying to kill us.  On the other we have 4 dead Americans in Benghazi and another onthe boarder in Texas, all at the hands of a douche in the WhiteHouse.

Love your selective outrage   

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 05:05 | 4515810 Calculus99
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I really hope the NSA pricks haven't got anything on Jesse Ventura. He's probably the only hope the USA has right now. And if you don't like him for President then at least have the courage to agree that he was the best colour commentator that wrestling ever had...

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 04:15 | 4515765 bh2
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When did the CIA secure a charter to conduct domestic operations?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 23:46 | 4515322 DeadFred
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I wouldn't call what the CIA is doing to the oversight committee as extreme as what they're doing to the bankers who 'know too much'.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 23:07 | 4515162 Kina
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The gathering of information by the NSA is for the sole purpose of blackmailing anybody in a position of power that can give them what they want, and to protect themselves through blackmail.

  • Question is - who is it benefiting from the NSA - who are its really owners.

The NSA was created and is run for the entire benefit of the military bankster industrial state and none else besides.  It is an Uber  mafia blackmailing organisation, nothing more.

The inudstrial military bankster complex have no nationality, no state, they live outside of society, laws and justice. They will happily kill a million Americans for money as a million Iraqis.

Their loyalty is only to their own power and wealth.

There will be no congressmen or President allowed to be ellected unless first the NSA have some decent material on them.... else they are too clean to control

 

Thu, 03/06/2014 - 05:50 | 4515832 Leraconteur
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Consider how the elites have behaved since 1991 or so.

It is, prima facie, that your thesis is true. The only way to rise up to C-Level Suite or Congress or The Board Room is to be compromised and have a file on you with dirt in it.

Everyone has MAD via NSA dossiers.

You want to prosecute the bank executives? Fine. I release your hooker address book entries. 

Everyone at upper management or above is compromised.

The question is for whose benefit? Everyone gets the shaft from Madoff to Ventura.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 20:12 | 4514356 maskone909
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Hey george you have any info on that new infrared spy satallite the usa just launched? Is it to watch us or "them"?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 21:28 | 4514719 Dr. Sandi
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The infrared is used to keep us warm until we're ready to eat.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 21:44 | 4514812 TheMerryPrankster
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Solyent green is people..

But the CIA is just a bunch of friendly chaps keeping an eye on the bad guys and chumming about with each other, really just networking for the really elite, mostly Yale grads and bankers and such.

They have a little place in Langley they call the Farm, and apparently we are the cattle.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 19:57 | 4514254 SameAsItEverWas
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http://proxy.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?id=1250751

By Hunter S. Thompson
Page 2 columnist

It was just after dawn in Woody Creek, Colo., when the first plane hit the World Trade Center in New York City on Tuesday morning, and as usual I was writing about sports. But not for long. Football suddenly seemed irrelevant, compared to the scenes of destruction and utter devastation coming out of New York on TV.

Even ESPN was broadcasting war news. It was the worst disaster in the history of the United States, including Pearl Harbor, the San Francisco earthquake and probably the Battle of Antietam in 1862, when 23,000 were slaughtered in one day.

The Battle of the World Trade Center lasted about 99 minutes and cost 20,000 lives in two hours (according to unofficial estimates as of midnight Tuesday). The final numbers, including those from the supposedly impregnable Pentagon, across the Potomac River from Washington, likely will be higher. Anything that kills 300 trained firefighters in two hours is a world-class disaster.

And it was not even Bombs that caused this massive damage. No nuclear missiles were launched from any foreign soil, no enemy bombers flew over New York and Washington to rain death on innocent Americans. No. It was four commercial jetliners.

They were the first flights of the day from American and United Airlines, piloted by skilled and loyal U.S. citizens, and there was nothing suspicious about them when they took off from Newark, N.J., and Dulles in D.C. and Logan in Boston on routine cross-country flights to the West Coast with fully-loaded fuel tanks -- which would soon explode on impact and utterly destroy the world-famous Twin Towers of downtown Manhattan's World Trade Center. Boom! Boom! Just like that.

The towers are gone now, reduced to bloody rubble, along with all hopes for Peace in Our Time, in the United States or any other country. Make no mistake about it: We are At War now -- with somebody -- and we will stay At War with that mysterious Enemy for the rest of our lives.

It will be a Religious War, a sort of Christian Jihad, fueled by religious hatred and led by merciless fanatics on both sides. It will be guerilla warfare on a global scale, with no front lines and no identifiable enemy. Osama bin Laden may be a primitive "figurehead" -- or even dead, for all we know -- but whoever put those All-American jet planes loaded with All-American fuel into the Twin Towers and the Pentagon did it with chilling precision and accuracy. The second one was a dead-on bullseye. Straight into the middle of the skyscraper.

Nothing -- even George Bush's $350 billion "Star Wars" missile defense system -- could have prevented Tuesday's attack, and it cost next to nothing to pull off. Fewer than 20 unarmed Suicide soldiers from some apparently primitive country somewhere on the other side of the world took out the World Trade Center and half the Pentagon with three quick and costless strikes on one day. The efficiency of it was terrifying.

We are going to punish somebody for this attack, but just who or what will be blown to smithereens for it is hard to say. Maybe Afghanistan, maybe Pakistan or Iraq, or possibly all three at once. Who knows? Not even the Generals in what remains of the Pentagon or the New York papers calling for WAR seem to know who did it or where to look for them.

This is going to be a very expensive war, and Victory is not guaranteed -- for anyone, and certainly not for anyone as baffled as George W. Bush. All he knows is that his father started the war a long time ago, and that he, the goofy child-President, has been chosen by Fate and the global Oil industry to finish it Now. He will declare a National Security Emergency and clamp down Hard on Everybody, no matter where they live or why. If the guilty won't hold up their hands and confess, he and the Generals will ferret them out by force.

Good luck. He is in for a profoundly difficult job -- armed as he is with no credible Military Intelligence, no witnesses and only the ghost of Bin Laden to blame for the tragedy.

OK. It is 24 hours later now, and we are not getting much information about the Five Ws of this thing.

The numbers out of the Pentagon are baffling, as if Military Censorship has already been imposed on the media. It is ominous. The only news on TV comes from weeping victims and ignorant speculators.

The lid is on. Loose Lips Sink Ships. Don't say anything that might give aid to The Enemy.

Dr. Hunter S. Thompson's books include Hell's Angels, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72, The Proud Highway, Better Than Sex and The Rum Diary. His new book, Fear and Loathing in America, has just been released. A regular contributor to various national and international publications, Thompson now lives in a fortified compound near Aspen, Colo. His column, "Hey, Rube," appears each Monday on Page 2.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 19:25 | 4514075 Chupacabra-322
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Don't tell anyone but apparently they all work for the Vatican Jesuits, at least those at the top levels of GooberMints

http://vaticannewworldorder.bl...

Karen Hudes a world bank whistle blower also says they are working for the Vatican and are in cahoots to loot the World of its wealth and are hiding it away in vaults all around the world, she says they also control the lame street media

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

The Global Criminal Oligarch Cabal Bankster Intelligence Crime Syndicate.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:42 | 4513905 LetsGetPhysical
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Why should the Senate be any different than the rest of us? 

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 19:29 | 4514091 Chupacabra-322
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Study history. The Congress have been useful idiots in aiding and abetting the imposition of tyranny in this country, and they also know where many of the bodies are buried. TPTB are now done with Congress. Just look at how Obama is centralizing all power into the Executive Branch ("I have a pen and I have a phone"). When the SHTF, I would not be surprised if Congress isn't systematically executed, and I don't mean 'fired'. If you study history, this is how it always works. The globalists can see that Congress is untrustworthy based on what they have allowed to happen to the population they are supposed to serve. They have shown themselves to be dishonest men and women, and not to be trusted. I think Congress is going to be in for a rude awakening in the not too distant future.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 21:39 | 4514789 TheMerryPrankster
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Congress invented or created the CIA in 1947 with the national security act and a couple years later they sealed our coffins by making black budgets legal and secret forever.

Harry Truman and Warren G. Harding were two of the biggest fuckwad presidents of the 20th century. Harding and the Federal Reserve and Truman and the CIA, NSA and Israel. They boned us and served us up on a platter to the oligarchy, and Harry did it for a lousy pension.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 21:27 | 4514718 A doubt R 2
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I don't  know if your suspicions are correct but I would welcome it.  I am that disgusted with the whole lot.  In fact, the whole system stinks like a pig farm. What can be done?  Is isn't like it was 120 years ago.  Not just anyone can even run for office, now, unless the regime sponsors them.  So there has already been a coup, long ago.  And only now are people starting to awaken.  Does anyone want their children and grandchildren living under this crap?  I don't.  Oh gee! Now they have my ID and may indefinitely detain me.  don't think s. 

Does anyone else think that the CIA is totally out of control?  How about Congress?  How about the Presidency (not just O, but the previous three as well)?  Does anyone think the Judicial System is healthy?  

I read a  book, forty years ago by a guy named Larry Abraham.  The title was Call It Conspiracy.  It explained how the CFR, IMF, World Bankers, and the FED and the like had a plan call "The Attack of the Robes."  It would, over time and slowly so as not to be conspicuous, destroy the Religious, Judicial, and Educational systems within the U.S. in order to diminish and weaken the Constitution so the the Government as it was known would be overthrown.

Perhaps by the time this all goes down, few will want the "old regime, anyway.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:26 | 4513846 goneYonder
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Government IS violence.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:01 | 4513727 sosoome
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"The CIA Inspector General’s Office has asked the Justice Department to investigate allegations of malfeasance at the spy agency..."

Eric will jump right on it.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 17:54 | 4513689 ThisIsBob
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They have to be blackmailing Obama.  How could they not know what is in those records he will not release.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 20:07 | 4514330 FeralSerf
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They don't need to blackmail Obama. They OWN Obama.

Obama's family was all CIA.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 21:36 | 4514768 TheMerryPrankster
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Mostly on his mother's side of the family, his father was just a typical cia drone groomed to be a tool to do their bidding in Africa.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 17:57 | 4513705 johnQpublic
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i like the way your mind works

 

your dick, not so much

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 17:50 | 4513674 Bastiat
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Can't wait to hear Fienstein defend the spooks on this one!

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:15 | 4513760 Emergency Ward
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Diane and Barack will tell us what a fine job the intelligence community is doing to protect the public.  An "investigation" will be carried out but the results will be classified.  Diane will go on with her plum oversight assignment and Barack will continue his secret torture programs.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 17:54 | 4513666 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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In the last 24 hours, the New York Times and McClatchy have published stories revealing that the CIA is spying on the Senate Intelligence Committee, as part of its efforts to block release of its torture report.

Sounds like typical White House tactics to change the story away from the IRS and Lois Lerner along with Ukraine now. Create a different distraction remember who's stooge Brennan really is. Wouldn't surprise me if he okayed this on purpose to take heat off the boss.

This is really a giant nothingburger when you get right down to it. CIA tortures people 'old news'. The CIA spying part well more serious but spying over an unclassified report that is going to wind up getting released anyways one way or the other is not a big story. Call me when they get caught meddling in the Benghazi investigation then that will be big news, news the MSM WON'T report.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 17:55 | 4513693 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Keep your eyes on the prize and don't fall for the look at my left hand. That means the right hand is up to no good.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:30 | 4513859 Emergency Ward
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In a room full of nine-tailed weasels it's hard to spot the eight-tailed weasel.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 17:44 | 4513653 kellycriterion
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Such is the nature of information and measurement, taken to it's logical conclusion the Spookocracy would end up owning everyone. Yes even the political class and their thugocracies.

It's getting complicated but the unintentional humor is priceless.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:26 | 4513806 Emergency Ward
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Spy Vs Spy, mad-hattery madder than Mad because here the spies wear the same color hat.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 17:18 | 4513539 Ignatius
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More than anything else it was torture (and the phony Iraq war) that woke me up post 9/11.

American Exceptionalism (our national religion) "We don't do that."

But 'we' did.

Torture is primarily used to extract false confessions in support of an elite narrative and agenda.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 19:46 | 4514172 Fidel
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Old Merry Inquisition.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 17:43 | 4513651 johnQpublic
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you know what woke me up ignatius?

talking to a friend who was working construction in shanksville that day

what he saw in no way matched the official story

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 17:36 | 4513618 johnQpublic
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stuff like this lends credence to the stories that the CIA was directly involved in the assassination of JFK

and RFK

and MLK

and lennon

and....fill in blank

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 21:33 | 4514747 A doubt R 2
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AND the Arms for Drugs sales for the last fifty years AND the current drug-faucet stuck in the full-on positions with all of the hard stuff rotting a whole, young, useless generation with nothing but idle time on their hands and no hope for the future.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 17:10 | 4513499 MrTown3
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This country has always been allergic to the truth.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 17:34 | 4513614 El Oregonian
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I believe we have a whole sub-set of imbreds running Washington these days.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 17:37 | 4513624 johnQpublic
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just 'these days'?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 15:05 | 4512844 sleepingbeauty
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I see, it isn't important until someone with power is targeted. I guess that to some makes this revelation bigger than Edward Snowden.

It is pretty crazy that the spooks are spying on their own oversight committee.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 17:30 | 4513591 Raging Debate
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Sleepingbeauty - Of course. I remember asking my mother if the mass protests of the Vietnam war was what ended the conflict. She said no, it was when politicians sons had to go because of the draft.

I have mentioned the revolution as begun. Be careful, just keep speaking truth to power. Because when an empire starts to fracture and internal revolt begins one can get trampled picking sides. When elephants dance ants get _________

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:48 | 4513930 11b40
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Your Mother was 100% correct.
The "draft" had been badly abused by those of privelege. For example, Dick Cheney got 5 student defermnents to avoid serving, while the common man was being scooped up for cannon fodder. The complaints from the public eventually got too hot for the politicians to handle, so in late 1969, the Lottery was introduced to make it more fair.

It turned out to be so fair that the entire draft was abolished in Jan 1973. It only took a few years of children of the elite being coming home in body bags to end both the VN war AND the draft.

Now, we have a mercenary army the politicians and MIC can use at will. If we would simply rid ourselves of the 'volunteer army' and bring back Universal Service you would see a rapid end to this militaristic foolishness we have been projecting on the world.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 22:47 | 4515082 Tall Tom
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Bring back the lottery draft and draft women. You will see how quick they will stop their Foreign Adventures.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 17:22 | 4513552 ptoemmes
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If anyone with access to the report had half the backbone of Snowden...just slip it to Greenwald.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 13:38 | 4512420 Cognitive Dissonance
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"... although we believe that the NSA has also been spying on - and blackmailing - its "overseers" in Washington."

 

Everyone is an enemy of the state, even those who supposedly run the state.

<"You can never have enough blackmail material. Never!" - Overheard in the CIA executive washroom.>

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 17:40 | 4513639 johnQpublic
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that is positively surreal

is the CIA even part of the US?

seems they are in fact the real terrorists

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 21:23 | 4514703 Dr. Sandi
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Ever since the CIA cut themselves into the international drug trade racket, they've been self-funding.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:28 | 4513854 SAT 800
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Welcome to reality. No they are not part of the US; they are their own nation; yes they are the real terrorists, and everything they've ever done or misdone, or undone, has been either useless or a national disaster. They desperately need to be defunded; eliminated, terminated, retired, and completely and totally done away with; along with the EPA and about 7 other alphabet soup agencies.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 18:55 | 4513955 Bangin7GramRocks
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The EPA! What the fuck is wrong with you. Spend a month in a Chinese city and tell me again about the evils of the EPA. These companies would cover your kids in tumors if it wasn't for the EPA. As flawed as it may be.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 21:35 | 4514763 A doubt R 2
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Why do you think there were Presidential Candidates wanting to disband the whole agency?

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 21:30 | 4514730 Dick Buttkiss
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Jesus, where to begin:

http://blackagendareport.com/category/us-politics/epa-corruption

http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/02/epa_corruption_and_scandal.html

http://www.forces.org/evidence/epafraud/files/epacorr.htm

. . .

Point is, China is out of control, yes, but it's business productivity that is driving environmentalism in the US, not government regulation that is bought and paid for by those who can't compete in the marketplace.

A truly free market under a rule of law based solely on the protection of life, liberty, and property would ipso facto put an end to the economic externalities that are choking the life out of the planet.

Wed, 03/05/2014 - 20:50 | 4514531 Infinite QE
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Spot on.

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