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"To me, social media is the worst menace to society."--Erdogan
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WB7: To me social media is the worst menace to Erdogan...
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By: @blumaberlin
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Erdogan is doing the Turkish people a service.
He's unequivocable response is letting the Turkish people know that the tape is not a fake.
Killing the bluebird might be his swan song.
We shall see.
What has been tickling my schadenfreude meter is watching and reading about how the heads of Apple, Google,Farcebook, and others, have been yapping at Obama about all the alphabet executive branch spying. It seems that the perception that they are in the bag for the administration has cost them customers and hence money. They are apparently in shark mode that is they either keep a a growing revenue stream going through their gills or they are going to run out of oxygen and die. The only down side for Obama is they might, maybe, stop campaign contributions but the administration has been diverting fed money to "non-profit" groups who kick it over to far left activists so Obama can tell them to go pound sand and get ready for their next tax audit.
The US is Turkey in 10 years unless the mockery bombs from sources like Banzi kick them out in 2014.
This week, the NSA's in house counsel said they all most definitely knew. Whoops, another conspiracy theory out the window.
Ben Bernanke’s first post-Fed public appearance ends in a fashion unimaginable in the US. The host announced that nobody is allowed to move before he leaves with the Emirate dignities.
haha, well, that whole -royal- schtick is coming to the whole planet, will that displease all the progressives and fake conservatives that are helping "change" by supporting the lies? erdogan is infected with muslim ideas, no hope there.
Stupid Idiots. Someone touches your little birdy you get all huff and puffy. Erdogan is the victim here. I am greek and I am not supposed to like turks, but I tell you, Erdogan is great. They are attacking him because he loves his country and is proud of his heritage. He hates Ata Turk: the murdering destroyer of Turkey and the founder of today's Turkish Central Bank. So what do the CBers do? They stir up the population using SM and cause lies riots and instability. You fucking losers are so stupid. You believe that Twitter and FB = Freedom, Internet freedom. At least Erdogan knows that the idiots who tweet are as free as the Ukrainians who just became part of europe and the IMF. He has freed his people from idiots like you who belive in crap. Yes you, with 2 brain cells and both of them dead.
the thing is---as much as i have turkish friends who don't like erdogan, some of them might agree with you.
we are living in very dubious unusual times. the u.s. and west generally are infiltrating global counter-propoganda in a way never before possible in human history.
we ---the west===are dominating the biggest game of all the game for the hearts and minds of the populations of every nation on earth.
in doing so, so much intentional noise is created to mask the source signal ----that the extent to which a counter-party population seems to be justified in their 'uprising' in nothing more than a story being told to us back in the 'west' about somethiing going on 'overseas'.
there is a story going on overseas. and there is a story about that story. and then there is a real story abouty what is going on in the united states. and then there is a story ahbout that real story being told to us in the news. part of the telling of domestic stories gets intertwined with e telling of international storeis in the propoganda nexus. and that in itself is a story .
the whole thing becomes so confusing after a while. even if you are on the 'inside' of some intelligence gathering organization-----you are possibly even more ignorant to the truth than people on the outside because of perspective. I like to believe in the truth that the CIA did not see the collpase of the soviet union coming. although there were grain shortages in russia, supposedly no on in the cia could foretell of the dramatic instability it would cause. why? russia and china were succesful at starving their own populations many times. so was england. and the united states did it during the civil war and the great depression and may expect to be doing it succesfully sometime in the future if necessary.
so if the cia could get something so big , so wrong----than who knows anything? the only thing you really know, if you know anything, is what you yourself want.
one cannot see the truth anymore, one can only interpret the existing descriptions of the world in favor of ones own desires, ones own view of the world as it should be.
being objective about what seems to be an accurate or censored description of the world requires first and foremost that you don't have a biassed perspective , meaning you don't have any affiliations with any world view points. that is a very very hard place to get to mentally, let alone to remain there.
what fun is it not to care, not to have an opiion about who is righteous, and who evil. who justified in resisting oppression by any means, and who condemdned as tyrant or lawless thug.
my favorite marvel characters were demi-gods called the 'watchers' . i dunno what this says about me so much as that i live in a dream world where it seems possible to look at reality from a stoic daoist style perspective. even that--is somewhat of a fiction. a man cannot be removed from the world. for in removing himself from the world, even he judges it as worth leaving. and if he stays in it, worth staying.
If you love him so much, why don'tcha marry him?
Here is the schtick jack, anyone who is intimidated by dissent, passes laws that block web sites without court orders and requires them to keep private user data, making it available to the authorities on demand, is not OK in my book. I don't care what his politics are or where he comes from or how many shoe boxes of cash his pals keep under their beds.
NSA or Turkish NSA, no matter. The boot stops here.
BTW, I would suppose that a Greek saying he likes Erdogan is something else Mr Erdogan would want to keep in a shoe box. Just sayin based upon my visits to both countries.
And here is another little tid bit for you. No matter what you think about his merits or those of his adversaries, the ends can never justify the means. We all know where the reverse leads.
I think Jack's comment has some merit!
The internet is a weapon and there are masters out there that are expert. It is very easy for a constant barrage of defamatory post, comments and uploads to destroy a person, state or enterprise.
Social media is a powerful thing, just look who owns the MSM and what they can do with it.
BBC, CNN and the like!
William you have become popular here and you may also be accomplice in the destruction, are you sure your view is best for the world?
One hundred years ago news print was the evil threat that people were told would bring down civilization, followed by radio TV and now social media. The dynamic between the empowered, the corrupt and the exploited has not changed much either. They hate dissent and ridicule.
I also have the benefit of a brief conversation I had with a Turkish artist visiting HK last year before the street battles in the park. I started by saying hmm, the economy in Turkey is doing ok no? She reponded by saying, we are not a free people and it is going to blow.
When there is no social media or mobile telephony you know where the next line of communication will run? Through the mosques. We know where that leads as well.
Those people who defy authority by communicating by whatever means take a great risk. They know it. But they do it anyway. There is a big difference between that and being a social media couch potatoe.
I have no fear of the technology!
Only those that use it for specialinterets
Yep, a dictator turning something off is obvious.... we in the 'free world' have our twitter, FB, CNN and our Tavistock Institute, Brookings Institute, Club of Rome, CFR, etc etc all tweaking and overloading the system with simplistic popularised concepts supporting the passive submission to economic warfare and resource/wealth transfer.
As another couple of billion people uptake smart phones the net becomes even more corporatised by a few to ensure full harvesting of info and consumer money. This suggests limited ability to shut anything that impedes the corporation from the global consumer and so its likely that national actions to shut down SM and other sites are going to have to first 'do no evil' to the corp'n interests - after all that is the point of the TPP and other free trade agreements using secretive courts and laws that ordinary people can't.
We all know that Erdogan has gone completely mental. Bill here has done a sterling job of portraying him as the idiot he obviously is.
Regarding politics, the most basic right of all the people on the planet is the right to speak the truth to power. Whether the social media medium - probably the most monitored of all communications - is the place to do it is moot. His attack is essentially not on the medium itself but on the people using it. That should be abundantly clear.
To confuse his attack on Twitter as an attack on the corrupt corporations who are busy selling out their customers' personal information to the fascists in government, is imo, completely wrong. Yes, some social media companies are evil bastards, and the implications of their data mining are very grave indeed for future generations and everyone using them now with the illusion that their privacy is safe. We also know that the Twittersphere is heavily infiltrated by the alphabet agencies to spread propaganda and destabilise countries. But what Erdogan is doing is attacking his own countrymen who are critical of him by shutting down the medium, something he would obviously not be doing if they were praising him instead on Twitter.
I reckon the Western governments are taking a long hard look at how this progresses in Turkey to prevent it from happening to them, although I am pretty sure evil bastards like Cass Sunstein have already covered any contingencies with armies of paid mouthpieces to go to war on any social media to put down popular dissent. It's a funny old world, in which without a sense of humour (and the sybaritic effects of alcohol), I would not have survived for long.
turkey and greece are due for a huge earthquake.....according to geologists.
eat that shit!
maybe i'm just western centric, but i'd say erdogan satire isn't your strong suit banzai.
how about skewering the fucking farce that is google encrypted email and the prez meeting with faciabook and other tech ceos.
also, where is the fucking satire of elon musk. i want more of that. moar!!!!
when are you going to satire yourself? :)
I only have 72 hours in my day. Why don't you gin up something and share it with us.
Frederich Nietsche...
+1 for one quoting neeetzh. keeping shit real banzai. toushe. :)
is Turkey going off the grid (maybe i'll move there) the government of Turkey is under Shia law, like Syria, and a few months ago the (obama?) college student protestors took to the streets (for beer on campus, yeah forget the bill of rights its beer the new generation wants) so far the MSM has confused everybody about what the arab spring means, on one side you have nations under Shia law, Iran, Syria, Turkey, and then you have ALQAEDA, which is against the leadership of these nations (hmmm) and you have the american press and the neocons trying to roll them all up into one group so we can FIGHT THEM and exert HEGEMONY, and even better get them to FIGHT EACH OTHER so we can come in after both sides are finished and pick the winner. (didn't work in W1 though). Turkey is a NATO ally of course, which means Erdogan is probably on the way out (and ALQAEDA which we finance) is on the way in. modern day carpetbaggers will exploit as much of central asia as possible for the benefit of profits on wall street naturally. whats next a suggestion that Turks can join the EU? ah the siren song
The real arab spring began in Tunisia, and then was one in Turkey;
I see some pattern - wherever people want more freedom and democracy (inflated term) there such protest is crushed and not covered by MSM to much or at all; in other countries so called arab spring was exploited for geopolitical reasons, chaos errupted and military or some sort of militias doing their job:
-Libya - oil fields (before 1.5 mln barrels/day; now 0.3 mln/day)
-Egypt Suez Canal (oil tankers, nat gas tankers passing through) and strategic location between Asia and Africa
-Syria possible route for pipelines and Iran ally
-Syrian Kurdistan - MSM don't cover this subject at all; and it's very interesting subject, Kurds fight Free Syrian Army, Al-Nusra, ISIL, and Assad and they literally set up their own semi-independent state in north; north - east of Syria and teritories they posses are in a way of new Nat Gas pipeline; and they are winning so unfortunately someone will take care of ....
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Map is worth a thousand words
Gotta get that EU pipeline thru there...
I believe that SM is like double-edged sword. If you gonna use it, learn how to avoid cutting with it, because if someone with a bigger and heavier sword comes to fight you, you gonna get cut by your own weapon.
We all know that our "anti-establishment" virtual behaviour is being recorded, and even the ones who are gathering that data now don't know how it gonna be used.
I believe that (as someone around here said a week or so ago): The power that the governments are getting are so big, that only one crazy dictator have to get over it to destroy all our society.
Just imagine the ilimited capabilites of the data that they have now!.
0.They know all what you do, when do you do it, with who, what do you speak of, what are your political views, what are you gonna do.
1. It's a behavioral data of precedents that can be used against your child and they children. (we can get even to DNA discrimination in the future, etc)
2. It can be used for a fuking lot of sociological theorization and modeling of the evolution of the "undesirable" social element. (imagine genocides of "possible disturbers", etc)
3. It can be used to trace all the connections of every society on earth to manipulate them and know what people to remove so an entire system collapses
4. Just imagine the modelling of social trends to know when you can use focal attacks to provoque the "butterfly effect" that can destroy it?
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Im really afraid of the future where my grandsons gonna live, its just a fucking totalitarian consumer world (Orwell-Huxley hybrid).
And if you wanna have a glimpse of what can be done with your social info, check http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=facebook+profile and push the "analyze data" button. It's fuking scary!.
Social media is like a big park full of protestors, if you show up you can get clubbed or sprayed just like everyone else down there. This is a risk anyone using twitter in Turkey politically currently faces. They can wind up walking the wheel.
Unfortunatley, we all know very well this is the same risk you now run if you show up at any organized protest in New Amerika. They have it all down to a Homeland Science.
There were some posts last summer where they ran a meta data graph analysis of Paul Revere and his associates. Very interesting. You should check it out. The inferences generated by a few parameters was astounding.
Here is the metadata link o great one.
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2013/06/prism_m...
Well let's see all 'social media' is 100% seed financed by the CIA,
Then its managed by the NSA,
Its primary customer is the local law enforcement and DHS,
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Is any one really surprised that country's all over the world are shutting this shit down?
If you ruled TUVA would you really want some fuckhead in the USA running the heart&minds of your children?
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I used to back in the day say "The internet will allow people to TYPE in their own dossier for the POLICE-STATE"
I was wrong, people are now typing in their own 'DIARY' for the NWO.
Social media is like a car, if you want to drive it drunk, you will crash and burn.
The average sheep does not realise this.
Those who do and do not take full on evasive action are either reckless or willing to risk putting their neck on the block for a higher purpose. [There is no such thing as 100% security on the internet so anyone who says anything politically oriented is taking some a risk. And as long as there are Sunstein's on the loose, the risk is substantial].
I suppose there are plenty of brave necks on the social media block in Turkey right now: "Come and get us, but until you do we won't STFU."
We could do with a lot more of that and a lot less "tittytainment."
Wall Street did this years ago in an article called
"why we have guard rails"
Yes, banzai a minority of drivers are TOO stupid to stay on the road, but the majority of us don't need rails,
So why must we live in a world designed for the most stupid? Just life
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But your analogy fails, because the STUPID aren't told that everything they say and do on Social-Net is going to stay with them and fuck them for their entire life.
There are no guard rails on the social-net, in facct its virtually impossible to get out, unless your a CS expert.
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Google, FB, TWITTER all suck dick, you go ahead and defend it BANZAI,
Your consistent I admit this you always are on the wrong side of every debate, meaning you always defend the assholes, yet your graphics castigate them, ... I guess this is your game, but it is boring IMHO.
i drove semi, and i will tell you guard rails guard nothing. their value is purely visual, here's a fence at the edge of the highway, and especially on a sharp turn, so the visual line of that fence brings your eye around the corner (where hopefully you are going). it could be paper mache and serve the purpose. in federal reserve lingo its guidance. (guidance won't put back your losses) when some fed chief says screw it, the fed shouldn't give guidance you have reason to wonder what he or she means, do they mean, too many of you are using the guard rail like this was a disney land ride. or maybe he or she means just what i said, that the guidance isn't there to keep you on the road.
the nearest thing to a guard rail on a california freeway is the concrete barrier in the center, which keeps you from going headon into oncoming traffic. you would be surprised how many people try that.
If you find Banzai7 boring then you're probably on the wrong site. I'd suggest Fox they may have what you're looking for.
I'm a hard core anarchist, I find Banzai to be the kind of fascist that I have been fighting my entire life on earth.
IMHO while Banzai's graphics are amusing, his rhetoric is 100% Rush Limbaugh.
Signed, Emma Goldman
An anarchist with Hitlery as your avatar, nuff said
lol...you create an account, to be included on a free website and then jump up and down, declaring yourself an anarchist, screaming that everyone else is a fascist, while bitching about what is being offered to you.
Is that about right?
I'll give you the opportunity to call me one then too.
If I allow you into my house and you open the door to my well stocked fridge, scream that there is nothing to eat or drink or that you don't like any of whats in there, call me a fascist for inviting you into my house and offering you food & drink for free...I will grab you by the scruff of the neck and the back of your belt and throw you face first down the front walkway.
I promise.
If you must lie, at least try to tell the truth.
"Everyone" as Facist, NOT I have only called Banzai's rhetoric 'fastcist', but his graphics are great.
Mwewn, me thinks like all these sites there are only 4-5 people masquerading as 100's, its your game, but don't resort to lies, it cheapens the product your selling.
"...me thinks like all these sites there are only 4-5 people masquerading as 100's,..."
All what sites?
"...its your game..."
And now you've slipped over into delusion.
Banzai knows I'm quite real. Tyler & Sacrilege know I have but one screen name & account, so you're barkin up the wrong tree here spud.
Zionhead is a 3 week 4 day expert on all of us, particularly the old timers who have stuck it out since 2009.
The guys a fucking trip, hard to tell if his name is a takeoff on godhead productions or what.
But one thing is for sure, he said "all these sites" meaning to me, not just ZH or you in particular but any free speech venue...definitely an odd duck.
Claiming to be an anarchist too...lol.
The only asshole I am defending right now is you: You have a right to spew your incoherent nonsense just like the next babbling fool, myself included.
Many of them have been told and do not bother to listen because they are stupid, thoroughly brain washed or both.
But most sheeple who are told now or who accidently glimpse the news, God forbid, think what Goebbels wanted them to think: If you have done nothing wrong you have nothing to hide.
So is it still possible to exist without an ISP account, a mobile phone, a car, a guard rail, a TBTF bank account, a credit card or a gun. The answer is yes.
Does that mean we all don't? Obviously not. You use them it is up to you to protect yourself from what is painfully obvious and won't be changing anytime soon.
Wrong side of every debate indeed, at least I know I'm a fool, 3 week and 4 days douche.
“What actually happens with national security is protecting the interests of New Zealanders, and if people aren’t doing something wrong, then it’s very unlikely they would be falling within the remit of the GCSB’s activities.”
-ex NY Fed man and current prime minister of New Zealand John Key
This is their favorite line and it puts a crimp into their bullshit counter meme that it is blasphemous to compare the current behavior of the power elite with nascent Nazism. It is classic Goobbels, who today would no doubt be a fervent admirer of Cass Sunstein.
as for NZ.... my local ANZ branch now holds less cash for my security and requires a phone call if you want to draw out AUD5000 or more....things that make you ummm - all these claims of actions for my safety and security.
You have more than 5k in an ANZ account? Get it out quick and spend it on Perth Mint silver it's GST free.
Until there's a cure for stupid, this is just natural selection. I far prefer everybody identify themselves and get it over with.
Concern trolling is the passive agressive way of being a douche. Just throwing that out there.
banzai,
you can defend evil if you wish,
but a car can take you places and give you freedom,
all social-networking is just data harvesting, that's why it's free.
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Your CAR ain't free your INSURANCE ain't your FUEL ain't free.
Your GOOGLE, FACEBOOK, ... are all FREE, because they are stealing your privacy.
You pay for your car, and its all private.
You play on social networking and its all PUBLIC.
The lunatic fringe is not the people who take part in interactions with people they know.
The lunatic fringe are the people who set ~booby traps~ in order to grab the prize (our stuff).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTFVMMCwsss&feature=share A song to make my point - Red Rider, Lunatic Fringe (I know what you're after) for your listening pleasure.
It's only just begun. There isn't a reason I can think of that would lead to my approving the gifting of prime global real estate, the planet itfuckingself to lying, thieving, murdering numbskulls who never knew a moment of despair.
The strength required to say: fuck off you assholes, WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE
is far less than watching our children be sent into a LIFE OF FUCKING SLAVERY becuase human resources are the only asset the USA has left to bargain with. but, that is the plan. You can do a 2 step and show the audience your soft shoe act, but this is nothing more than do-or-die business approach and the only defense to that is...welll....has been done before. Isolate. Eliminate. Alienate. Exclude.
Because goddam it, there are very good people who have a lot to give to this world that will be turned into ground beef, a common child, for no other reason than these fat cats ~want no competition~. Weak links in the chain are in charge. Shut up and do something.
(slavery: Work to death, barracks, the minimum required sustenance to sustain life) sorry typos
Just commenting on Blogs is dangerous enough but I'm too paranoid to use social media. Facebook, twitter, and etc. all have data bases attached that are way to insecure, and yes I have a gmail.account, dang it. The other thing is not only can anything you say be observed anything you said in the last decade seems to be on a database some dang place. That selfie you took of your bare drunken ass is also forever.
One thing I've noticed the more corruption and crime a country gets in its political class the lower the GDP drops. Business gets too hard and wealth leaves. Turkey was just creeping into a decent manufacturing base but now? Totally farsoomed.
We have learned in just about one year now that there is absolutley no facet of the internet and global telecommunications media that is not being used as a spy toolof one kind or another.
Oddly, Hollywood actually said this in no uncertain terms in the 90s, perhaps to create the notion that it only happens in movies.
We have been merrily rolling along under the total misapprehension that whatever is good for Silicon Valley (which is a front for the NSA et al) is good for everyone else.
The basic theory of social graphing is something the Stasi applied manually and is now applied digitally by the Feinsteinplex.
I just go for it - social media, driving a car, buying whiskey on my bank card - I have nothing to fear so I have nothing to hide.
It just occurred to me that this is a great parody slogan for T-Shirt art. Belushi crushing a beer can on his head comes to mind.
Mashed up with "What? Me worry?"