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They've Found the Missing Fukushima Nuclear Cores ... Scattered All Over Japan
We reported in May 2011 that authorities knew – within days or weeks – that all 3 active Fukushima nuclear reactors had melted down, but covered up that fact for months.
The next month, we reported that Fukushima’s reactors had actually suffered something much worse: nuclear melt-throughs, where the nuclear fuel melted through the containment vessels and into the ground. At the time, this was described as:
The worst possibility in a nuclear accident.
But now, it turns out that some of the Fukushima reactors have suffered even a more extreme type of damage: melt-OUTS.
By way of background, we’ve noted periodically that scientists have no idea where the cores of the nuclear reactors are.
And that highly radioactive black “dirt” has been found all over Japan.
It turns out that the highly radioactive black substances are likely remnants of the core.
The Journals Environmental Science & Technology and Journal of Environmental Radioactivity both found (hat tip EneNews) that the highly radioactive black substances match fuel from the core of the Fukushima reactors.
The U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission agrees.
Indeed, “hot particles” with extremely high levels of radiation – 7 billion, 40 billion , and even 40 billion billion Bq/kg – have been found all over the Fukushima region, and hundreds of miles away … in Tokyo.
Let’s put this in perspective. The Atlantic notes:
Japanese regulations required nuclear waste with 100 or more bq/kg of Cesium to be monitored and disposed of in specialized containers.
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The new government limit for material headed for landfills is 8000 bq/kg, 80 times the pre-Fukushima limit.
So the hottest hot particle found so far is 5 million billion times greater than the current government limits of what can be put in a landfill.
In other words, the core of at least one of the Fukushima reactors has finally been found … scattered all over Japan.
How did material from the cores get dispersed so far? Remember, there was a huge explosion at reactor number 1 , and an even bigger explosion at reactor number 3.
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it's great to be open minded, but not so open that your brains fall out. Any concept you derive must be tested against reality. This is why you do experiments. The next step is to try to prove yourself wrong, to avoid the embarrassment that someone else will.
Unfortunately, many people here on this thread are irrational - ideological. They don't know enough science to avoid making fools of themselves.
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Once again, I find your comments very astute. However, I guess I'm not as pessimistic concerning the possibility of avoiding this tunnel vision, at least as far as our inherent limitations as human creatures in the natural realm is concerned. Yes, the vast majority will function according to the pain/pleasure principle, but there are also those who are able to transcend that.
As a practical matter, one only need study science at a fairly high level to become convinced of the need for humility and openness in the sense of being dazzled by the gifts, imagination, and insight of others. To make the hard climb toward mastery of a difficult discipline reinforces this need for openness and humility in achieving a maximum of comprehension, given one's personal limitations. It was fascinating for me to read an account of the mathematician John Boas, for instance, on the rather pathetic error Einstein made in developing his general theory of relativity and how that error set him back several years. This appears to call into question Einstein's intellectual brilliance, but Boas goes on to praise him for his determination and his humility. The latter was evinced by the word "Grossman" in his notes. That is, Einstein had to get help from his mathematician friend to learn about Riemannian geometry to overcome his impass.
I would love to hear the details of Boaz and Einstein and know if it related to perhaps Einstein's most profound assumption and error, the absence of an ether, which, (not surprisingly) kept his theories consistently incomplete and 'special'
Another key mystery where Tesla differs from Einstein involves the paradoxical findings of Michelson and Morley who in 1887, tried to detect the ether by using two sets of mirrors pointed at each other and placed miles apart. One set was aimed in the direction the Earth was moving and the other set was aimed at right angles to the movement of the Earth. It was hypothesised that if the ether existed, once an impulse was sent, there would be a difference in the return times of each set, yet no difference was found.
Einstein essentially agreed with the findings by stating that by its nature, the ether could not be detected. However, Einstein also upped the ante considerably by also saying that if the ether could be detected then his theory of relativity was in error.5 Einstein further stated that if light could travel like a particle it would not need a medium (i.e., the ether) to travel through. Even though most of the great scientists of the day such as Maxwell, Faraday, Kelvin, Fitzgerald and Lorentz all accepted the obvious conclusion that there had to a medium of transfer in space, i.e., the ether, all of this was glossed over. This led to a generally accepted conclusion that the ether did not exist and that is the situation today, a full century later! It would take Einstein 15 years before he addressed this glaring misconception but the damage had already been done.
http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/articles/tesla-vs-einstein-the-ether-the-...
And that's pleasure and reward EC, the motivation to openness and discarding of old ideas. :)
I would not call it pessimism, just an observation of the developmental stage where people get caught up. If you actually enjoy destroying fake or flawed ideas there is no catch, people then develop.
good chat, cheers
To Element and Escapeclaws,
Beautiful discussion guys, 100 thumbs up. Thank you.
"sense-of-disproportionate concern and sense-of-proportion virtually absent"
Pretty much covers every one of Washington's posts.
If I understand the situation at Fukushima correctly, there are 4 reactors. 3 were full and operating, and #4 was empty and in the refueling process. So there could be 1 (or more) reactors that blew all over the place and there would still be at least 1 core remaining. So my point is that 1 or more of the cores could have 'vaporized like a friggin dandelion' as you put it and there would still be remaining material on sight requiring cooling.
6 reactors, 3 operating, 1 undergoing core replacement.
There is no evidence that the containment over any of the reactors was breached. If there was such evidence Geo. Washington would be spinning a fable about it.
The spent rod pool was on building #4 and it was not damaged in the explosions. You can see photographic evidence of that. The rods have since been relocated from the top of building 4 to ground level.
What is proposed by GW is (at least partially) a manufactured dichotomy though.
One should not take an absence of knowledge about what hasn't been observed to mean that what hasn't been observed due to imparted technical limitation, isn't still right where it should be, and to which the most direct observational evidence is in fact consistent with. Namely, the cause of the technical reasons for why we have not observed the much-alleged 'missing', in fact provides a rather good indication that the allegedly 'lost' is in fact still precisely where it should be.
To stridently conclude from this that what's alleged to be 'missing' will inevitably be elsewhere is hardly a compelling rationale. Which fake-dichotomy and unnecessary conclusion thoroughly erodes subsequent analytical credence.
But for some, not so much.
Well lets see it this way, if a plane stiking a building can make it fall at free fall velocity, then maybe hydrogen explosion can pulverize and spread the core material far and wide.
Dunno.
Read a while ago that the one explosion was Hydrogen, but the other was in fact a nuclear criticality IE an actual nuclear explosion.
If a core went critical then it would disperse bits all about the area. The videos comparing the explosions are instructive and clearly are different; the comparisons and video of the one critical event to actual low yield atomic weapon tests are identical.
No links but reporting on this should be simple to google.
http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/fukushima1.html
Make sure you open-up the hi-res aerial photos.
This link does a good job of proof of Criticality
http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2013/12/fukushima-was-nuclear-explo...
Find out if a jew double insured the plant a couple of months before it blew and you have your answer.
Could be his Japanese cousin, Larrito Silversteinku.
Core redistribution. Will these socialists ever stop?
Best comment of the day. +100
Kind of you to say. Thanks!
Thank you disinformation agent. I guess it's safe then. When are they going to turn back on San Onofre? Nuclear is safe, right? It's a proven technology, right? They have long term solutions for the waste, right? I know! We can store it up your ass.
Whether reactors are turned on depends upon the benefits and risks. Nuclear reactors have far fewer dangers than coal burning power plants and they put much less radiation into the atmosphere, from the Thorium in the fly ash.
There are long term solutions for nuclear waste, but the Democrats are blocking them. Currently, the spent fuel rods are in pools outside the power plants. There are safe locations, but Senator Harry Reid prevents them.
I'm not fond of any of the nuclear reactors in operation. They are very old and safer designs are available. But, the government would rather spend the money it would take on the bureaucracy.
I still want the potassium iodide concession at the 2020 Olympics.
FukiGate may be the disaster that slowly wipes out out ... at least the dinosaurs went fast when the meteor hit ...... our demise may be painful and slow, I'm afraid.
Mother Earth can only withstand so much before she yields.
mother earth doesn't give a shit. what we should be worried about are the people living on her.
This is a world killer and I think some know this. And if not a killer a world crippler.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRPmxQqn3tg
Mother Earth will be fine. Humans, not so much.
This shit is Still nowhere near as "hot" compared to my morning glory...
..and if I can’t get the potassium iodide deal, I would settle for a Cesium Sushi Stand franchise.
Are they sure the fallout was limited to just landing on Japan?
depends what you mean by "fallout" and "landing". there's this:
The man in charge of the clean-up at Japan’s Fukushima nuclear plant says growing stores of contaminated water from the site will eventually have to be dumped into the sea.
In an exclusive interview with the ABC, the chairman of the Fukushima Monitoring Committee, Dale Klein, has also admitted there are likely to be more blunders and slip-ups at the plant in the months and years to come.
“I think the best word to use with Fukushima is challenging,” the former chief nuclear watchdog in the US said.
We do not know whether there even is a safe level of radiation. But then the IAEA is owned by the nuclear industry just like the Federal Reserve is owned by the banks.
well that's comforting.
Most of Fukushima's problems are political. Doing the scientific thing, like dumping water with Tritium in it, creates a scandal.
Accidents will happen; that's life. But, every day, the radiation level is dropping, too. So far, no one has been killed at Fukushima. The worse isotope, Cesium 137, has a half life of 30 years. The time will come when we can ignore Fukushima.
Laboratory evidence says that the level of radiation which gives rats the longest life span is three time the normal background radiation. This is why Leadville, Colorado, which has a background of two and a half times normal, does not have a higher rate of cancers than Palm Beach, Florida.
Regulated industries are problematic, because they are protected from the marketplace. They don't have normal industrial insurance which an industry would have to tell them to improve their safety or else they get a rate increase.
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Fukushima puts the lie to environmentalism. This event should have been met by a clamor that didn't die until an international effort was made to contain the disaster.
Fukushima is being contained. The real problems are local.
Unfortunately, there are Anti-nuke activists who want to create problems where none exist. They obsess about imaginary dangers, such as the problems with moving spent fuel rods from the top of building 4 to ground level, when the real dangers are being contained.
By contained, I mean they are held in place until they can harm no one. In time, the radiation dangers will decay away. The isotopes with the shortest half lives are gone now. The worse in the immediate area is Cesium 137 which has a half life of 30 years. It will be a concern for the next 60 or so years.
So far, the management has been successful, no one has died from the accident and only a few people have been put in harms way. Children were given Iodine supplements, so the five thyroid cancers discovered are only slightly above the normal rate. That danger is over, the Iodine 131 has decayed.
Only a small amount of Strontium 90 is present, mostly in the stored water from depleting Cesium from the waters in the basements.
All that is left of concern is the Tritium produced when the reactors were in operation. It has a half life of 12 years, so it will mostly be gone in 30.
The hysteria on this thread is from Cesium which has been gathered by the rain. It just needs to be found, scooped up and buried.
Gulf of Mexico and dumping of Corexit + GM bacteria wasn't really important, either.
And the idiots are worried about some dung-eating turtles in Nevada? Are they serious???
When shit hits the ground, BOYCOTT JAPANESE!
So if a meltdown in a US reactor results in the China Syndrome, did Fukushima result in the US Syndrome?
why, didn't Tepco covered it under a [green] slimmy sheet of someting?