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Polls: Americans Are Sick of the War On Terror, War On Drugs ... And All of the Other Failed U.S. Wars

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Americans Turn Anti-War

The American people are now overwhelmingly opposed to more war in Ukraine, Syria, Iran and elsewhere.

A new Wall Street Journal/NBC poll shows:

Americans in large numbers want the U.S. to reduce its role in world affairs even as a showdown with Russia over Ukraine preoccupies Washington ....

 

In a marked change from past decades, nearly half of those surveyed want the U.S. to be less active on the global stage, with fewer than one-fifth calling for more active engagement—an anti-interventionist current that sweeps across party lines.

A Pew poll from December found a majority of Americans - more than ever before in Pew’s 50-year history of polling this question – think the U.S. “should mind its own business internationally and let other countries get along as best they can on their own.”

A Pew/USA Today poll conducted over the weekend found that Americans  oppose - by a 2-1 margin - any U.S. military aid to Ukraine.

A YouGov poll conducted last month found that only 14 percent of Americans said the U.S. has “any responsibility” to get involved in Ukraine, and only 18 percent think the U.S. “has any responsibility to protect Ukraine if Russia were to invade.”

Huffington Post reports:

Americans are more likely than not to say that the United States has no responsibility to get involved in Ukraine even under extreme circumstances, the new survey shows ....

 

Pluralities of Democrats, Republicans and independents agreed that the U.S. does not have a responsibility to protect Ukraine.

Support for a war against Syria is 500 percent less than for the Iraq war (Americans would rather have a root canal or a colonoscopy than bomb Syria).

A USA Today/Pew Poll from January shows that Americans now believe by a 50%-38% margin that war against Iraq was stupid.

Support even for the Afghanistan war has collapsed. For example, only 35% of all Americans support the Afghanistan war, according to a 2011 CNN poll.

Most Americans are now strongly opposed to intervention in any Arab country.

The warmongers, however, are desperate to drum up business.

War On Drugs

A new Pew poll also shows that the American people are sick of the war on drugs, noting that a broad majority of Americans are ready to significantly reduce the role of the criminal justice system in dealing with people who use drugs.  Pew found:

  • 63% of Americans think that we should stop mandatory prison terms for drug law violations
  • 54% are in favor of marijuana legalization
  • 67% say the government should focus more on providing treatment for people who use drugs like cocaine and heroin, and only 26% think the focus should be more on prosecuting people who use such drugs

Of course, the war on drugs is a total boondoggle.  And stopping government support  for drug dealers and producers might be a good place to start (even though it is making American banks rich).

Other Failed Wars

Obama has also declared a war on inequality.   But given that income inequality has increased more under Obama than under Bush, and that bad policy enacted on a bipartisan basis is making inequality worse and worse, we may be in real trouble.

Of course, neither mainstream political party represents the interests of the people ... as revealed by polls.

 

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Fri, 05/02/2014 - 15:15 | 4721404 crazybob369
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I was having a discussion along these lines with my neighbor recently, and he also expressed the opinion that he had nothing to hide, therefore he didn't care about government surveillance and such.  Rather than attempting to explain to him that unfettered government surveillance of its own people is wrong, and unconstitutional, on its own merit, I simply pointed out to him that he may not think he had anything to hide, but that I was willing to bet him that on that day he had probably broken 3 or 4 laws, or violated some municipal code without even realizing it.  How would he feel, when some years from know, he would be prosecuted for crimes he didn't even know he had committed.  All he would have to do is piss off someone in a position of power, with access to that information, and at best, a few years in prison, at worst a one way trip to Guantanamo.  His response: "Oh!"

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 17:25 | 4721917 Two Theives and...
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What I say to people who believe "they have nothing to hide" is..."OK can I follow you around and record everything you do all day , every day?" . Usually they "get it" at that point...unless they're TOTALLY in the matrix...

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:08 | 4719922 forwardho
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May your wife never have to turn.

 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 09:02 | 4719596 kaiserhoff
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We are also sick of the War on Poverty.

Livelong welfare is an abomination and needs to end NOW.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 15:02 | 4720779 nuclearsquid
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Good luck with that!  They will fight more vehemently to keep the handouts than you will fight to stop them.

 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:36 | 4719413 blindman
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war, follow the credit money
and look for what can be stolen through
financialization and securitization.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:28 | 4719994 kurt
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and privatization

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:23 | 4719342 Notsobadwlad
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It is very clear that the US government does not represent the best interests of the vast majority of the people. I think, but do not know for sure that if a government that the people believed better represented their interests wanted to overthrow the current US government, the people would simply stand aside and let it happen. This does not mean that they would actively participate in the overthrow, simply that they would not lift a finger to help Obomber, Reid, Pelosi, Boehner, Holder, any Clinton, any Bush ... the entire Supreme Court or anyone on Wall Stree and most others.

This is sad, but also tells a tail of just totally corrupt and bad these things representing themselves as pokiticians are.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:14 | 4719317 pupdog1
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If we keep re-electing senile sociopaths like McCain and Ladyboy Graham, then the draft should come only from AZ and SC.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 09:10 | 4719643 MassDecep
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We the people need to wake up and realize the election system is manipulated. No one talks about this most important subject. They control the votes. They own the  tallying companies. They make the elections look close, but fraudulently rig them for "Their Man" in the important elections. The facade of close elections is to give the divided masses a little hope, so they remain "plugged into their system". Divide and conquer, is their game. They cannot have an angry united "intelligent" mass of people, knowing their dirty deeds, or they get the Bundy ranch standoff.....in mass.

 

 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 17:28 | 4721931 Two Theives and...
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+1 I will NEVER forget the Cheshire Cat grin Papa Bush had on his face when he disputed the Florida election results on election night 2000 (when it first appeared Man Bear Pig Won) ...it sent CHILLS down my spine ...never forgot it.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 17:28 | 4721930 Two Theives and...
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+1 I will NEVER forget the Cheshire Cat grin Papa Bush had on his face when he disputed the Florida election results on election night 2000 (when it first appeared Man Bear Pig Won) ...it sent CHILLS down my spine ...never forgot it.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:55 | 4720482 dizzyfingers
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MassDecep

In the home voting districts where who gets on the ballot is decided, special interests control the decisions. Special interests are not half a world away, they're right in our communities, and they have the power, only partly because they have the power of jobs, or, being local, to get peoples' relatives hired/fired/dinner at the White House, etc. But you're right that computer voting makes it much simpler to skew votes. Program the machines by leaning on the county clerk or by getting special interests to place someone in the clerk's office; ten votes for our side, one for their side, twenty votes for our side, one for their side... And  so it goes.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 10:12 | 4719927 detached.amusement
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I keep saying that, and very few people seem to recognize the difference between voter fraud and electoral fraud.  Voter fraud is when auntie progressive goes and votes twice because she thinks its *that* important.  Grains of sand, in other words.  Electoral fraud is when you get something like Bridgeport CT in the '10 elections, they short the # of ballots needed, then there's a big hubub about it and they make a big deal about getting extra ballots - oh, and then after the fact, dont mention this, but we found some bags here with tens of thousands of votes in them.  Margin of victory, just a couple, but that's ok too.

Congrats Senator Blumenthal and Governor Malloy.

 

Or, courts have to decide which ballots are good and which arent.  Congrats Senator Franken.

 

Or, you never never hear about it in the first place - congrats yet again Senator Reid, how doooo you do it?

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:01 | 4720191 11b40
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Don't forget the 2000 election when the Supremes gave it all to Bush....and that, my friends, is when the worm really turned and the Neo-cons were given the keys to the kingdom. 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 12:42 | 4720683 MassDecep
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Just the male parasite of the same species. Repubs, Dems, Neo-cons, Libs, all the same person.....

Your response (11b40), is part of their programming.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:10 | 4719304 russwinter
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The Fast and Furious Travesty:

http://winteractionables.com/?p=11330

 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 07:45 | 4719255 SMC
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Sick of "polls".

Those who are worth a damn think for themselves and do not need a "poll" to establish or justify their position on a subject.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:37 | 4719418 weburke
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well, at least be happy polls are uncorrupted !  If you notice when you hear of polls, over time, you will see something.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 06:33 | 4719121 Comte d'herblay
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This piece starts off once again, with a faulty conclusion.

Since when did what the "American People Want"  matter to the Elite, the Lobbies, and the CorpoTechnoTyrantcrats???

How naive.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:46 | 4719485 overmedicatedun...
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polls useful tools to make the people accept the rigged elections and meme's of the elite reptiles, ever wonder why the pols are always within margin of error? so what ever the outcome it seems legit..that senile smuck mccain was dead last in primary races and broke with empty campaign coffers, then one month later he led the pack...almost as transparent as btfd markets.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:58 | 4720501 dizzyfingers
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overmedicatedun...

McCain = lots of clout. 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 06:49 | 4719143 El Hosel
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You forgot the "Happy Ending".... The War on the Vix and free money for all BULLISH speculators.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 05:08 | 4719031 NuYawkFrankie
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re the American people NOW overwhelmingly opposed to more war..

 

Too late for such "lofty sentiments".

The beast is loose. It will be fed. It slowly turns, to fix its lazy gaze closer to home.

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 12:19 | 4723716 kikk
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That is exactly what the US government are good at, war on abstract nouns. The world is sick of it. US foreign policy is as big a cause of global problems as financial corruption is.

 

Oh and it doesn't matter who you vote for, we all know that the presidency, much like justice is a commodity that is for sale in the USA.

 

I've said this before, there are millions of decent, honest, hard working Americans, and not a single one of them will ever be in a position of authority at any level. It seems that to get on in America you have to be criminally minded, corrupt, greedy or preferably all three.  

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:57 | 4719555 doctor10
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Along with the "Affordable Care Act"; the "Patriot Act" -alal-in-all when congress starts to legislate in this day and age-you can pretty much assume what comes out will have the inverse consequence of its name

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 11:39 | 4720407 redd_green
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What wrong wit da ACA?  You got a toof ache, jes sign over your house and all your money and your children to serve da state.  Fair trade, no?

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 07:58 | 4719281 Pee Wee
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Mission A-fukin-complished, fool!

All bullshit, all the time (and the "MSM" takes it from there).

 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 03:43 | 4719026 The_Prisoner
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Janus, that was righteous! thank you for another display of eloquence we camo to expect from the old Janus.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 05:27 | 4719078 NuYawkFrankie
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You are Number 6

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 05:08 | 4719064 janus
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fellow Prisoner, i do sincerely appreciate it.  you know, i often wonder whether my methods in developing certain ideas does more harm than good.  the class of folk that were around the Hedge when i first began were, let's say, on the whole a bit more appreciative of Art...i know they're still around, but they seem to contribute less (and that is unfortunate).  and i worry whether people 'get' what i'm doing when i provocatively manipulate 'janus' to embody something that is...something...hmmm, how shall i say this?...well, let's say that 'thing' i occasinally peddle is an unsettling and affecting 'honesty'.  

i find Art more compelling than essay...but inasmuch as i have certain and specific things to say, i often resort to a more palatable means of delivery.  however, this in no way implies that i intend to totally leave off in the ways of aggressive and hilarious provocation...i happen to enjoy writing it, and i also happen to know that a few out there appreciate my humble efforts.  so i soldier on.

and, with respect to 'righteous', i'm now steam-shooting-outta-my-ears righteously pissed at amorica.  i'll just say that i'm trying to channel my rage into productive (Artistic) endeavors.  i'm done...just planning my escape at this point.  i'm even considering soliciting a russian publisher for my book (should be finished in a couple months...i'm focused now).  two reasons: 1) russians have an intrinsic appreciation (and aptitude) for lit. 2) to make a point...to wit, america sucks and almost every among her enemies is preferable. 

when missing a single doctors appointment is enough to precipitate a visit from child services, have your children's custody threatened, watch as they're forcably injected with caustic 'medicines', be extra-judically declared 'neglectful' because you're dubious of our medical/bureacratic thug's anti-biotic racket, be proven correct in your assesment of the child's condition...but being right means nothing before tyrannical might...and still get 'the treatment' cause it's SOP.  fuck this country!  after all i've been through since starting on the hedge...and still, i wanted to believe there was something worth salvaging in amorica...something noble glistening beneath the dross...but it was just pyrite and glass shards.  and whatever they wanted to do to me...fine.  my kids?  they continue to come afte MY children. this was truly my last straw.

no wonder Bad-Ass-Vlad banned amorican adoptions of russian children...who in their right mind could possibly blame him.  poor slavic waifs, they will so miss their doritos, day-cares and sex ed.  horrible that they are now forced to grow up in such a 'retrograde' traditional society.

this nation is a sickening abonmination.

you guys can have it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgTYMnMazh0

sincerely,

janus

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 03:14 | 4719016 janus
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as i live and breathe! amorica goin soft on warfare?  you've got to be out of your cotton-pickin minds.  bitchez, you simply don't have a fuckin choice.  are you unfamiliar with your seminal essence, your raison d'etre, the coded fundaments of your national DNA?

when i hear folks speak of our 'war making apparatus' or 'the military industrial complex' or 'the security state' i do all that can be reasonably expected of one such as janus.  graciousness and sympathy being the twin pillars of my being, i often condescend to gently explain to lesser-thans the whys and what-fors of our democratic republic, the purpose of amorica and where this is all going.

any who fail to understand that amorica is one gigantic war-making mechanism -- an holistic and perfectly integrated structure articulated for a singular and horrific purpose -- similarly fail to appreciate their own role in the belligerent madness.  have you not eyes to see and ears to hear, amorica?

we've quite literally beaten our plowshares into razor-sharp, steely and blood-soaked swords...who among you would dare argue that american agri-buisness (specifically seed-tech, grains, protein and dairy) hasn't been refashioned into a weapon?  we use food to subdue, slay, ply, persuade and plague.  it is an evil from olde...we no longer burn crops, besiege peoples or poison wells...well, at least not in the crude and antique ways of our roman and mongrel progenitors.  we're far more 'scientific' when going about our calculated genocide these days.   

our economy is but a thermo-nuclear menace.  again, it's difficult to contradict any who would assert as much.  yes, buffett, derivatives are financial weapons of mass destruction...but so's wells fargo, BoA, JPM, goldman, the fed, the bis, libor, the imf, the world bank, the ratings agencies (i could go on, but this is the Hedge...no need to belabor the econ stuff -- hopefully, we all understand this much at least).

and since we're speaking of the world's buffetts and their banks, it's important to understand how vital is the war on drugs viz. our efficacy in delivering death & devastation to the remotest corners of the globe.  without the help of their laundering facilities in mexico and the carribbean (and other locales), and without the diverted hard cash to fund ops on the street level, none of our nation's fun & games would be possible.  amorica, your bullshit war on drugs and the profits you've reaped from the associated prison industrial complex, the distribution and production of the goods, the laundered hard assets you endlessly rehypothicate, and the black-budgets you with great intricacy fabricate...golly gee, you religionists and do-gooder fascists, you have, by 'virtue' of your sanctimony, wrought untold and incalcuable suffering upon millions of households -- here and far abroad.  can i get an amen?

then there's pharma and bio-med...if you bitchez only understood how deeply these tentacles have penetrated the globe's various toe-holds.  no healing is accepted or acknowledge unless pharma or bio-med stands to inhale a massive windfall.  moreover, i find the rates of infertility, cancer and other ailments resulting from the gates foundation cholera, polio, tb and other third-world disease eradication programs toubling to say the least.  but it's more than that...it is not speculative to suggest that our nation's bio-warmaking-complex has developed many ghoulish weapons with the cures already prepared.  and then of course there's the element of patented medicines, restriction of their availability to 'resistant' nations, the prosecution of molecular 'copyright' infringement...well, i could again go on, but i offer our 'food & meds for oil' program in iraq as evidence...what's the most conservative estimate for deaths (especially among the young) from lack of basic nutrition and medicine?  400,000...what did madeline albright have to say about their plight?  

as for manufacturing, we've whittled it down to either outright munitions production or agri/construction equipment; that or other heavy industries that are specifically relevant to war-making or it's ancillary supply concerns.  throw in a few industries and facilities that could be readily retrofitted if war-making needs' be, and you've got the whole of amorican manufacturing-economy.  it's just so goddam blatant. 

then there's the entertainment industry and our officially sanctioned media apparatchiks...otherwise known as Propaganda Inc.  the maudlin moralizing and formulaic dreck oozing out of hollywood is far-past nauseating.  (here comes a digression...or, more properly, a muted rant) and the bitches ain't even pretty anymore.  for example, i have never, and will never, meet anyone who thinks anne hatheway is even remotely pretty.  she looks like a gangly and awkward 14 year old boy.  and this is supposed to be some kind of sophisticated sex symbol?  i wouldn't even let this swag slobber on the ole knob, much less pay to see her in anything.  for the life of me, i can't think of a single starlet that could make a fella of discriminating tastes swoon...hell, forget swoon -- it'd be hard to get from semi to stiffy with any of these bitches in bed.  perhaps it's cause hollywood truly is run by fags -- maybe nobody there understands what makes females attractive to men.

but, up until a point in our history, this all served your individual interests -- at least financially.  sure, we were most evil beginning with the end of (if not the beginning of) WWII...doubtless, we'd been pretty evil preceding even this...it was comfy beneath our blanket of sin -- and all the world wanted in.  we were able to consecrate our most wicked endeavors in the baptismal font of propaganda, all under the rubric of 'constitutional democracy' and 'civil rights' and 'free trade'.  we put this century's greatest poet in a cage and then forcibly committed him to a psyche ward for speaking out against it all...and in this land of 'free speech' and NDAA we do it still today to every powerful dissident.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVdelS1J0as

this nation is composed almost exclusively of cowardly bullies who offer tyrants up to act on their behalf...nihliists who serve no other cause but acquisitive and relentless gain -- it is in the god of mammon we trust, and he's now turned against us...mammon always sows the seeds of destruction in any land inviting his habituation; it just takes a while for the foul fruit to flower and ripen. 

which leads me to my concluding point:  this is all being targeted at you, now, amorica.  the oligarch's enemy is no longer cast abroad in squalid villages and backwards provinces...you are the enemy...you are the threat...you are the object of spying, propaganda, discord, fear, depredation, predation, dispossession and outright violence (and oh-so much more of all of this and most especially the lattermost to come).  they are slicing the armed forces to bits (not that i support current military spending) and diverting the funds to 'domestic security'.  alas, and again, have you not eyes to see and ears to hear?

it's not coming...it's here.

good luck with your mid-term elections, 'patriots'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnaxvBsyigM

the blizzard/

the blizzard of the world has crossed the threshold/

and it has overturned the order of the soul/

...your servant here/

he has been told/

to say it clear/

to say it cold/

it's over/

it ain't goin any further/

and now the wheels of Heaven stop/

you feel the devil's riding crop/

get ready for the future/

it is murder.../

give me Christ or give me hiroshima...

much luv,

janus publicus

 

Sat, 05/03/2014 - 09:33 | 4723388 tip e. canoe
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mooch-ass grassy-ass for the Pound on the Tube, j
most excellent rant, one of your (if not the) best.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 19:24 | 4722318 blindman
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" love is the only
engine of survival." .. l.c.
pub-lish it all
in full resplendence and
perfidity.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:32 | 4719386 SofaPapa
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@janus publicus

+1 for the epic rant that was remarkably well-written!

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:29 | 4719290 11b40
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Here's your amen, Janus.  Amen.

Did you get up early this morning, or have you been up all night?

BTW, thanks for the "Willin'" cut.  Been my theme song for bout 55 of my 66 years.

Keep working on that project of yours, and let us know when its done.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 07:46 | 4719258 Uncle Remus
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.

good luck with your mid-term elections, 'patriots'.

Ain't THAT the m'fing troof.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 06:48 | 4719132 Comte d'herblay
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You're digression to Anne Hathaway is a bit misguided, as is your contempt for all Hollyweird actresses.  The Gay scenario is likely right, but I have to disagree about the women and girls,  some of the pulchritudinous beauties (let's put their morals aside for a minute) that inhabit Southern California are women and girls I would happily have over many of those of the more pedestrian vaiety.

Esquire Magazine frequently features "Women We Love" in their middle pages, and I have found I agree 90% of the time.  Take a look at some of them and you will find some reasons to back down from your opposition to all the women in the industry.

http://www.esquire.com/women/women-we-love/

e.g.  http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/EvangelineLilly3.jpg

Please, after the Pope just announced not one but two new "Saints", after those two presided over the most corrupt eras of Catholicism, do not give me Christ. 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:23 | 4719345 Pee Wee
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"let's put their morals aside for a minute."  There is no dignity or worth left in the female.  Look around, even the "pretty ones" are ugly and stupid as hell beyond the parts you can see, just like their good for nothing mothers of divorce and ill repute.  Beauty is just another rehypothecated lie we tell and sell our pathetic selves using denial or ommission.

The beautiful American female is all but dead.  Pretty maybe but dead.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 07:15 | 4719199 janus
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i guess it's impossible to present a fully-orbed position in a parenthetic digression; and so i won't bother to disagree with you...in point of fact, i agree with your overall argument -- or, at the very least, the way i'm interpreting it.

you're talking to a true afficianado of so-cal pussy...regionally speaking, they are the only ones comprable to southern girls -- and, to be fair, the do slightly out class the southern girls in looks alone.  and i do adore the laid-back so-cal girl vibe...married it, actually (didn't at the time realize there was another side).

anyway, that's what makes the thing so ironic.  i mean, of all they have to choose from out there...and considering the ones they energetically push on audiences...well, somebody somewhere is doing a very poor job of casting...that, or the casting couch requrirements are now getting really, really 'exotic'.

now, as to Christ and catholicism and the whole of religianity...i don't have the time to get into it; but, reductively speaking, churches are religions and the Gospel of Christ is the very antithesis of 'religion' -- as it's commonly appreciated. the basic message of Jesus is fundamentally revolutionary and inimical to worldly powers...whether they be preistly or princely.  True Christianity is a person, not a religion: He is God & Man; you either have Him or you do not.  you will know if His words stir something profound within you...it is affirmed if it makes a change in you.  all the same, and all things considered, up until the present age, i bascally think religion has been a general positive.  it has done much to relieve man from savagery and barbarism...it's just time to take the next step -- cut the cord, so to speak.

i don't intend to be dogmatic...just thought i'd try and reveal a bit of my thinking's texture.

janus

 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:27 | 4719363 Pee Wee
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The casting couch requirements are the same in pork processing.

Lips and assholes make the meal. Can't (won't) suck or fuck -- next.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 07:13 | 4719192 nickt1y
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The Pope and Christ do not have to go together. Do not condem one because of the other. The Catholic church is the worlds oldest corporation. Selling a brand ... you can go generic. Read the Book, think for yourself ... if you must follow someone do so with your brain engaged.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 05:22 | 4719073 NuYawkFrankie
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A posting for the ages. 

A veritable Tour De Force of unflinching, rapier-like insight.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 06:34 | 4719122 janus
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ole friend, mind if i get a bit mushy for a moment?  NYFrankie, i have to say, going back to the very beginning, you have always been a purveyor of the most poignant and a kind-hearted & validating cyber-friend.  furthermore, you tend to complement the very posts i like the most (and i always have this sense that you've up-arrowed my more 'naughty' work if i see that you're casting about).  i really can't thank you enough.  you really don't know how much you and many others here (but you and a specific few in particular) have kept me encouraged in my little life-adventure. 

if...or should i say WHEN i finally head down your way, we'll at long last do this zchat thing and figure out a way to meet up for a beer or coffee or ibogane ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibogaine ) or whatever.

i was thinking back the other day on some olde school ZHealots...remember Agrotera?  ahhh, our goddess from memphis.  i sure do miss our muse and angel.  i have her email adress from back then...and, no shit, i made myself a promise (at the very origins of this caper) that, once fully completed, i'd send the first copy to her.  see...told ya i'd get mushy.  but i'm tired and i mean it...couldn't be helped.

so, in keeping with tradition, a song for NYFrankie & 2 for Agrotera (wheresoever she may be in the wiles of cyberspace, there is no doubt she's improved it by her presence, and everyday more sorely she is here missed)

oh, yeah, and speaking of the girls we used to have here at the Hedge, kekekekekeke...i had a crush on that chic....and then there was swisschic, speaking of chics.  she, too, very crushworthy.  but i'm the nostalgic sort...would'a married em all.  so, before i get to your's and Agrotera's songs, one to all the ZH lasses i would'a bedded if given the chance to excercize my highly developed Seductive Arts.  (see, i have to seperate Agrotera from this camp...she was more a matronly influence -- janus ain't into wierd stuff).  MsCreant is still saunterin about...so that's somethin worth noting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6ODMKSWzT4&feature=kp

alright...enough of all that -- i'm a married man after all; and i can't complain, or at least i suppose i shouldn't.  it's just this 'modernist' aversion to polygamy...i can't seem to get hip with it. 

here's a song for Frankie and all the good ole boys:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k52A0nQH3E0

here's two for Agrotera & the True Ladies of ZH:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e-LF21yFWM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lg_PNKah1ow

& i suppose i should throw in one for all the haters...suck on it, bitchez!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq5eI_Hk8As

when i'm on the mic the suckers run/

...i got more juice than picasso got paint,

janus

 

 

 

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 08:11 | 4719301 NuYawkFrankie
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Oh man.... thanks for the kind thoughts !

Right back at  ya ;)

Just love that song! Funnily enuf I was regaling a gaggle of inebriates last night about the time I was almost thrown in the slammer down Mehhiko way - in ol'  Tijuana.

Seems the federales didn t like the look of my mug - but thats a story for another day.

Tip O' The Hat to the Big "J"  - keep truckin' bro ;)

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 01:44 | 4718974 pparalegal
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An Attorney General that should be doing hard time,

some mad cow diseased out of control women running foreign policy at the State Dept.,

most of the 535 politicians legislating the Bill of Rights null and void,

CIA funded terrorists,

the TSA,

the Stasi DHS bitch & Co. training cops like police dogs without a leash,

and two hundred armed goons sent to collect some rancher's rental debt. 

All while the Prez starts WWIII, handicaps bassaball and golfs while sending "let them eat cake" mama-O out with her crew and the the 747 to shop.

What's not to like?

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 01:16 | 4718952 Dr. Sandi
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Support for a war against Syria is 500 percent less than for the Iraq war

My bitch here has nothing to do with the issue at all. But I REALLY HATE it when people use percentages incorrectly.

There is no mathematical way to more than 100 percent less of anything. Too much nothing is still nothing.

Perhaps it's 1/5, or perhaps it ain't. But I know for damned sure it's not 500 percent less. And if I have numbers tossed at me, I like to have some kind of resaon to believe they're not entirely bullshit. And 500 percent less doesn't feed this particular bulldog.

As bad math becomes more common, my bullshit detectors have an ever tougher time making any sense of figures used to support whatever argument is being tossed at me.

So please, George, keep the good stuff coming, but please keep the math away from divide by zero errors.

Fri, 05/02/2014 - 02:01 | 4718973 George Washington
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Thanks, Doc ...is this better:

Support for a war against Syria is only one-fifth the approval level Americans had for the Iraq war in 2003 (Americans would rather have a root canal or a colonoscopy than bomb Syria).

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Fri, 05/02/2014 - 06:20 | 4719108 Dr. Sandi
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Can I have a new war AND a root canal?

I've had to give up colonoscopies since the methane explosion that levelled the clinic.

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