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Polls: Americans Are Sick of the War On Terror, War On Drugs ... And All of the Other Failed U.S. Wars
Americans Turn Anti-War
The American people are now overwhelmingly opposed to more war in Ukraine, Syria, Iran and elsewhere.
A new Wall Street Journal/NBC poll shows:
Americans in large numbers want the U.S. to reduce its role in world affairs even as a showdown with Russia over Ukraine preoccupies Washington ....
In a marked change from past decades, nearly half of those surveyed want the U.S. to be less active on the global stage, with fewer than one-fifth calling for more active engagement—an anti-interventionist current that sweeps across party lines.
A Pew poll from December found a majority of Americans - more than ever before in Pew’s 50-year history of polling this question – think the U.S. “should mind its own business internationally and let other countries get along as best they can on their own.”
A Pew/USA Today poll conducted over the weekend found that Americans oppose - by a 2-1 margin - any U.S. military aid to Ukraine.
A YouGov poll conducted last month found that only 14 percent of Americans said the U.S. has “any responsibility” to get involved in Ukraine, and only 18 percent think the U.S. “has any responsibility to protect Ukraine if Russia were to invade.”
Huffington Post reports:
Americans are more likely than not to say that the United States has no responsibility to get involved in Ukraine even under extreme circumstances, the new survey shows ....
Pluralities of Democrats, Republicans and independents agreed that the U.S. does not have a responsibility to protect Ukraine.
Support for a war against Syria is 500 percent less than for the Iraq war (Americans would rather have a root canal or a colonoscopy than bomb Syria).
A USA Today/Pew Poll from January shows that Americans now believe by a 50%-38% margin that war against Iraq was stupid.
Support even for the Afghanistan war has collapsed. For example, only 35% of all Americans support the Afghanistan war, according to a 2011 CNN poll.
Most Americans are now strongly opposed to intervention in any Arab country.
The warmongers, however, are desperate to drum up business.
War On Drugs
A new Pew poll also shows that the American people are sick of the war on drugs, noting that a broad majority of Americans are ready to significantly reduce the role of the criminal justice system in dealing with people who use drugs. Pew found:
- 63% of Americans think that we should stop mandatory prison terms for drug law violations
- 54% are in favor of marijuana legalization
- 67% say the government should focus more on providing treatment for people who use drugs like cocaine and heroin, and only 26% think the focus should be more on prosecuting people who use such drugs
Of course, the war on drugs is a total boondoggle. And stopping government support for drug dealers and producers might be a good place to start (even though it is making American banks rich).
Other Failed Wars
Obama has also declared a war on inequality. But given that income inequality has increased more under Obama than under Bush, and that bad policy enacted on a bipartisan basis is making inequality worse and worse, we may be in real trouble.
Of course, neither mainstream political party represents the interests of the people ... as revealed by polls.
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the war on drugs was the bush crime syndicate's scam to gain control of the world wide drug distribution and to destroy competitors.
unfortunately americans are not sick of wars - they keep voting republican or democrat year after year after year. demorcats and republicans are ziocon war mongers. a vote for either one is a vote for totalitarianism and poverty.
the government's cut and control over mind altering substances goes a little farther back
The government itself is a "mind altering substance!"
It is basically a "war on consciousness," whereby the ruling classes use dishonesty, backed by violence, to keep those they rule over ignorant and afraid. The origins of such slavery probably go way back before the beginning of written history, and at least that far.
I tend to believe that the economics of slavery drives the racism, and that applies also to the primary ways that the drug wars developed. However, there were always complicated feedback loops, and such loops are not easy to say ever started or stopped on one point.
Who ever thought that up,,, Pretty fn clever.
The first time I saw that phrase:
" War against Consciousness "
it was used by Graham Hancock.
http://www.grahamhancock.com/
He and Richard Sheldrake hold the distinction of having their Ted Talks suppressed, which is quite the political stunt, in a back-handed kind of way.
These days I tend to believe that human history was NOT the way we were taught in schools, but that there actually were some pretty astonishing civilizations a lot more than 10,000 years ago, which were pretty well totally wiped out by cosmic events.
Of course, that view challenges the current holy trinity of "Science, Technology, and Evolutionary Progress" with the notion that advanced civilizations could be wiped out, back to almost nothing, instead of continuing to Progress. The American Dream was largely based upon a linear view of history, which no longer appears to be holding together. The endless Debt Slavery, backed Wars Based on Deceits, appears to be driving America towards Debt Insanities, which could provoke "Wars" which become Death Insanities. Indeed, the way that people tend to refuse to think through the paradoxes of feedback loops, such as found in evolutionary ecologies, but rather, want to continue thinking using simple notions of linear progress is one of the deeper reasons why the American Dream has turned into a Nightmare.
12,000 Years Old Ancient Temple Structure - Göbekli Tepe , Turkeye
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCl4YJVPxmI
Göbekli Tepe - National Geographic Channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JfbV21weQE
"the war on drugs was the bush crime syndicate's scam "
Maijuana was outlawed in 1932, Opium and Cocaine were outlawed in 1914, Heroin partially in 1924 and totally by 1956 (It was still prescribed). The outlawing of Marijuana had ALOT to do with the racism against mexicans. Opium outlawing had alot to to with the racism against the Chinese. The first poster was correct, it was due to a whole bunch of racism.
But, BUSH!
The current "War On Drugs" was declared by Richard Nixon in 1971.
It was a war against anti-war, commie, pinko, rock n' roll, anti-American radical youth. Between the Civil Rights movement, Women's Liberation, Anti-Viet Nam War protests, and the explosion of drug use, the establishment was losing it's grip on society. It was a very diferent world then - much better in many ways; worse in others.
The current "War On Drugs" was declared by Richard Nixon in 1971.
Nixon imposed the "Nixon Doctrin" and ended the war for Americas involvement. By 1971 things were starting to wind down and by August 73 direct US involvment had ended. However he did start the "War on Pollution" with the creation of the EPA on December 2, 1970.
Nixon got elected in '68 with his secret plan to end the VN war.
In '69, he illegally bombed the shit out of Cambodia and ratched up the war. He also put the draft lottery in place near the endo of that year.
Virtually every major college campus exploded in anti-war protests, and the conscript army, the boots on the ground in VN was falling apart, too. Troops were becoming evermore unruly and unwilling to fight. Fraggings were a growing and very disturbing trend. Flat out insubordination in the field was becoming more common and herion was a HUGE problem.
Nixon also declared the war on drugs in 1971.
keep mining the early 70's for similarities, its a rich vein.
next up? "oil crisis"? where the price of gas quadruples?
who benefits?
11b40
Any prohibition makes the named item(s) valuable (i.e. profitable). Otherwise, why bother banning anything...
And then there are the folks like the American Temperance Society... (they promoted freedom on other things, but with alcohol the wanted to remove freedoms)
Lots of religions can also support clamp-downs without necessarily doing so based on financial gain (other than dredging for "converts" perhaps).
A serious history of those days is The Politics of Heroin in Southeat Asia; an excellent piece of journalism. A very good novel of the same time and place is Sympathy for the Devil. Highly recommended.
Hongcha Thanks for the reference to the book. Click link and read "Publication" notes, interesting about the CIA. The book has been updated and republished. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Politics_of_Heroin_in_Southeast_Asia
I have substantial first hand experience with heroin abuse there during '71
I went to VN as a grunt. During Lam Son 719 (Dewey Canyon 2), an Air Mobile & Convoy Escort MP Company out of Cam Ranh Bay was sent up North to assist with supply routes into Khe Sanh, and I was assigned to those MP's working out of Phu Bai. When it ws over, I caught a break and got to stay with them, returning to the relative paradise that was Cam Ranh. Though not a school trained MP, I performed some regular MP duties for a few months (before becoming a Courrier). In the rear areas, heroin abuse was rampant. I personally found dead soldiers with needles in their arms twice, and we had a big re-hab center there, too. The theft of personal items by the junkies was astronomical. It was common to bust some GI for some infraction, only to discover a few hours after they were locked up that they were starting to jones. Watching someone going through detox in a cold cell was a very ugly sight. The heroin was cheap, plentiful, and pure. If you ever started shooting it, it was a virtual death sentence. It was mostly smoked in regular cigarettes, and impossible to detect - no odor at all. Snorting was the other way, and a faster ride to addiction.
Cam Ranh was a huge base, 23 miles long. Fraggings were a growing menace, too, and the officers were getting evermore nervous, but itwas far worse in the infantry outfits.
I have no doubt that large channels of these drugs were moved through or protected by "official" channels.
The Brits went to war with China in the mid 1800s (the Opium Wars) for the right to sell Indian opium in China. They needed foreign exchange so they could purchase, then export, coveted Chinese goods (tea, silk, etc.) back to England and beyond. Because of 'criminalization' illicit narcotics have become hugely profitable.
It's primarily about profits and control and governments covertly manage the illicit drug trade. Organized gangs get a slice and pay for it by being the fall guys providing 'plausible deniability' cover for the real controllers. Those in control of it wouuld never leave that kind of money ($300 billion+/yr) on the table.
DOPE, Inc. http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Drug_War/DOPE_INC.html
"Those in control of it wouuld never leave that kind of money ($300 billion+/yr) on the table."
Nicely put.
No doubt. Too much information is out there now. Anyone who votes GOP or Dem in national elections is implicit now.
"implicit"...
Uh, implicated, n'est pas?
Anybody and everybody that lives in the USA is complicit in MURDER and PLUNDER of the world.
End game is that either the USA becomes a prison to make the world safe, or all the US citizens terminate one another.
Take your pick.
I'll terminate you first. And then your mother, and finally her basement, the you're living in.
How about a war on wars against victimless crimes, the human condition, bad words and shit happening?
As long as they don't try to start a war on lez-porn...
Never happen.
What would Boxer and Feinstein do for pocket money ?
They HAVE apparently launched a war on porn ...
Talk about a circle jerk.
*sigh* True, that. I was trying to omit the sarc tag, but it seems as if it wasn't needed. Can't let the plebs thinking they can indulge in the same pleasures as the elites, though. :/
We need to have a war against the fucking clowns in DC!! And we may end up getting one as if they are going to go away.
Well let's see............what can these criminals do to convince us otherwise about war is good since not enough of us are buying the stupid fucking books on the subject and brainwashing ourselves.
The war on drugs is the most racist policy ever enacted and I can't believe that the country's minority politicians aren't screaming about it daily. Treatment is the only way to deal with addiction and there ain't no treatment in prison.
They can't scream about it, as then the 'checks' might dry up.
They sold themselves back in to slavery in the 60s.
Yeah, would have been better to continue to be lynched.
Rich white folks got 150 years head start. Anyone who has the slightest inkling as to what makes a business succesful KNOWS that early market capture is HUGE. Yeah, oppress for 150 years and then call it all even... and then wonder why the uppities are uppity.
Yeah, I don't like the way certain portions of the population act, but when you get down to it, there's a reason they act that way, and we (and I include that portion of the population in the collective "we") have to acknowledge three things before we can actually fix things:
1) They act the way they do.
2) There is a good reason they act that way.
3) It's not an excuse.
Political correctness does nothing to help this. I have blood relatives who are darker than our cocksucker-in-chief who are act decent and are decent. I'll side with my blood in a serious matter before I side with any white supremacist (or most anybody else, for that matter,) but accusations of racism when there is none only further the problem. Actual racism also furthers the problem.
And contrary to what you may believe due to my screen name, My arms and legs will tan. Kind of. My face just turns red and peels. I'm that white. Or red. Or whatever.
Really hard-core racists keep giving standardized tests to all races. These racist test makers have never been able to create a test that blacks completed as successfully as whites. When you go through the educational system and life taking racist tests, who wouldn't fail? The fact that any blacks at all succeed is a minor miracle.
"Jim Crow" was government using the law to target particular people--unequal protection before the law.
Civil rights laws transformed the crimes of government from unequal protection for one group to a wholesale violation of Liberty, Property and free association rights of ALL Americans.
Blacks sold themselves to the DC US so as to enable that.
What I am most fed up with is the Federal Government's War on Americans.
I want my country back from militarized police, agents that believe they can kill with impunity, a revenue system that will baldly steal from personal bank accounts, and a political class that is wholly owned by world oligarchs.
The only war I'll support would be the next civil one.
"The only war I'll support would be the next civil one."
Wars are over before the shooting even begins. So, in that case, folks should declare their own wars and just get on with it (instead of waiting around for the "signal").
Minority politicians are not immune from payoffs.
Right, all sociopaths seek power/control/influence/$$$
They seem especially prone to pursiung it.
“Americans Are Sick of the War On Terror, War On Drugs…”
Yes.
They know that and it is exactly why they are now giving us “Cold War 2.0” as a replacement.
And how do you fund these endless wars? With wars on the Constitution, wars on the middle class, wars on civil rights, and wars on the dollar.
.....the war on political corruption.
Given the history of the opium trade following empires around the world, it would seem the war on drugs is quite profitable for Al CIAduh.
War is young men dying, while old men talk.
Indeed, its a war on wars if you think about it...
The bankers must be getting busy with all new propaganda efforts. Can't have mega profits without war.
FORWARD SOVIET!
At least we won the War on Civil Liberties!
Problem is, we were fighting a war on oppression.