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What's REALLY Going On In Odessa, Ukraine
Ukrainian War Crimes Whitewashed by Western Press
After more than 30 people died in a fire in the Ukrainian seaside resort town of Odessa, most of the Western press pretended that no one knows what happened or whose fault it was. For example, see these stories from the Guardian and BBC.
But USA Today reports:
Witnesses and journalists reported that as the building burned with people inside, a crowd shouted, “Glory to Ukraine!” and “Death to enemies!” [These are neo-Nazi slogans.]
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[T]he Associated Press reported that the Russian sympathizers took refuge in the trade union hall on Kulikovo Field Square after government supporters rousted their encampment outside and then burned their tents. Police said the building was set on fire with Molotov cocktails.
At 5 seconds into this 15-second video, you can see a Molotov cocktail being thrown at the building in which the Russian sympathizers:
Former Associated Press and Newsweek reporter Robert Parry points out how bad New York Times coverage of the Odessa attack has been:
On Saturday, for instance, the dominant story from Ukraine was the killing of more than 30 ethnic Russian protesters by fire and smoke inhalation in Ukraine’s southern port city of Odessa. They had taken refuge in a union building after a clash with a pro-Kiev mob which reportedly included right-wing thugs.
Even the neocon-dominated Washington Post led its Saturday editions with the story of “Dozens killed in Ukraine fighting” and described the fatal incident this way: “Friday evening, a pro-Ukrainian mob attacked a camp where the pro-Russian supporters had pitched tents, forcing them to flee to a nearby government building, a witness said. The mob then threw gasoline bombs into the building. Police said 31 people were killed when they choked on smoke or jumped out of windows.
“Asked who had thrown the Molotov cocktails, pro-Ukrainian activist Diana Berg said, ‘Our people – but now they are helping them [the survivors] escape the building.’” [Here's the Post story.]
By contrast, here is how the New York Times reported the event in its Saturday editions as part of a story by C.J. Chivers and Noah Sneider focused on the successes of the pro-coup armed forces in overrunning some eastern Ukrainian rebel positions.
“Violence also erupted Friday in the previously calmer port city of Odessa, on the Black Sea, where dozens of people died in a fire related to clashes that broke out between protesters holding a march for Ukrainian unity and pro-Russian activists. The fighting itself left four dead and 12 wounded, Ukraine’s Interior Ministry said. Ukrainian and Russian news media showed images of buildings and debris burning, fire bombs being thrown and men armed with pistols.”
Note how the Times evades placing any responsibility on the pro-coup mob for trying to burn the “pro-Russian activists” out of a building, an act that resulted in the highest single-day death toll since the actual coup which left more than 80 people dead from Feb. 20-22. From reading the Times, you wouldn’t know who had died in the building and who had set the fire.
Billmon comments:
Not even “atrocities were commited,” just a fire “related” to clashes that “broke out.” Immaculate conception theory of war crimes.
Postscript: While the Western press tries to paint the percentage of neo Nazis within the new Ukrainian government as small, the leader of the “protests” which ousted the previous president of Ukraine is a neo Nazi and follower of WWII Nazi sympathizer Stepan Bandera, and neo Nazis are largely in control of the new government.
Whatever You Think of Putin, You Should Understand How Russia Thinks
Even if you think Putin is a tyrant with ambitions to build an imperial Russia, you can’t understand the war in Ukraine unless you understand how Russians think.
20 million Russians died fighting the Nazis in World War II.
Neo Nazis just killed at least 42 Russians when they firebombed a building in Odessa, Ukraine that the Russians had taken shelter in.
Agence France-Presse reports:
Russian official rhetoric has increasingly compared events in Ukraine to the darkest crimes of Nazi Germany, ahead of next week’s anniversary of Soviet victory in World War II.
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The fire in the southern Ukrainian city of Odessa that claimed at least 42 lives on Friday has been swiftly dubbed a new “reprisal raid” and even the “new Khatyn,” a reference to the Belarussian village where 149 residents were burned alive by the Nazis in 1943.
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The Khatyn massacre went down in Russian history books as one of the Nazis’ most brutal “reprisal raids,” a term the Kremlin has now adopted to describe the offensive Kiev authorities have launched against pro-Moscow rebels in the flashpoint town of Slavyansk.
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“What has happened, especially in the Trade Unions House, brings to mind the crimes of the Nazis during World War II,” pro-Kremlin lawmaker Leonid Slutsky told reporters in Moscow, referring to the Odessa fire.
“These are the new Khatyn and Auschwitz.”
A senior official in the pro-Kremlin government of Crimea, Ukraine’s peninsula taken over by Russia in March, chimed in.
“The last time people were burned alive in Ukraine was by the Nazis during the Great Patriotic War,” Rustam Temirgaliyev said on Facebook, referring to the Russian name for World War II.
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Russia’s losses and sacrifice during World War II remain a hugely sensitive subject in the country ….
To the extent that the U.S. and Nato are backing the right-wing Ukrainians, we are creating conditions that the Russian leadership – rightly or wrongly – considers an existential threat.
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Another problematic woman in the fray here is Samantha Power, u.s. ambassador to the un. Irish, married to a jew and most assuredly working the interests of israel far before those of the u.s. What is america to do with all these gentile front people? They must think they're gettin in early on the zionist world domination gig or something. In any case... they betray- there's no other way to put it
Dude, Israel is 1/2 step below the US on the evil global oppressor list as far as Samantha Power and the Obama Administration are concerned. They might be all for world domination, but if you think it's at the behest or for the benefit of Israel, you need to check your premises. They'd be the first ones celebrating if Israel was to just disappear tomorrow.
this is not unusual haircut
this is Cossack haircut
http://www.expatsua.com/_/rsrc/1339791732433/home/country-facts/kozak.jp...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khokhol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oseledets
Taras Bulba rides again.
"If loving a Pole is wrong, I don't want to right."
(That's what she said at the club the other night.)
I think U referring to Taras Bulba film; right?
http://www.cineol.net/galeria/fotos/taras-bulba-1962_68055.jpg
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Yes, but a couple of folks do not know the film or the history of the area and the (three) jokes in my comment above all went right over their heads.
Zero Hedge, I love you but you are a whore for the Russian Government.
What is going on in Ukraine and Odessa? Well, the truth, whatever it may be, will NOT be found on Zero Hedge.
"Glory to Ukraine!” and “Death to enemies!” [These are neo-Nazi slogans.]
Really, Zero Hedge? Those are "NAZI"?
Viva la France, Nazi Slogan.
Viva Mexico, Nazi Slogan
Vive le Québec libre Nazi Slogan
Leve Sverige Nazi Slogan
viva la raza OMG Nazi Slogan!
Shall I go on?
You might have a point if the shouters of the slogans were not wearing neo-Nazi symbols and burning people alive.
Look, all the kids are doing that these days. Heck are here you can't walk through a shopping mall without tripping over at least a dozen flag-waving slogan-shouting neo-Nazi in arm bands.
They are so cute goose-stepping all over the place.
my enemy's enemy is my friend
And my enemies friend's are my enemies. And my friend's friend's enemies are my enemies. And my friends friends enemies' friends are my enemies. And my friend's enemies' enemies who are my enemies are ...
You are your own enemy. Deal with it.
Novictim, I see where you are coming from, but get this straight…
Straight out of Nazi styling’s.. based on Roman styling’s emulated by the radical Ukrainians, Muslims, Persians and other archaic thinkers.
Extreme Ukraine Nationalism (Neo-Fascism) is the blend of Nazi authoritarian socialist styling’s with Western MIC corporate support (funding).
How many western funded NGO’s are operating in Ukraine?
No one that is not a Neo-Nazi marches and chants “Glory to the Reich (country/regime)” or "Death to Enemies (anyone)".
A clue should be the portraits of terrorists and tyrants on buildings and banners.
By rights, this should be an enlightened era -- even there.
"How many western funded NGO’s are operating in Ukraine?"
-Ok, HOW MANY? And when you get that answer, tell me the significance in a "cause and effect" hypothesis. I will listen. But tell me, don't just name drop "NGO" and think that that carries some talismanic power with me!
Plenty of reporting from western Ukraine describes normalcy and a LACK of attacks of ethnic Russians as claimed is happening on RT news services. Man, you have an uphill fight to validate this nonsese. But I will listen.
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No one chants "Death to our enemies" unless they are NAZI? Silly. History and common sense tell you different.
Your "clues", Man, are false and rely on your limited grasp of world history.
Stepan Bandera seems to have been locked up in the Sachsenhausen concentration camp in 1942-44. So I don´t think that the Nazi label is 100 % correct as regards Bandera. His goal was an independent Ukraine. Therefore, the Nazis locked him up. But he co-operated with the Nazis in 1941 and in 1944-45.
It also seems as if Western media and politicians who generally strongly oppose nazism and ultra nationalism in the West think that they can use Ukrainian ultra nationalists as a means to take control over Ukraine. I also suspect that CIA and MI5/6 are smarter than the Ukrainian ultra nationalists.
Yes, but it was a planned action by the Gestapo . Bandera was kept as a VIP person with the most valuable guests in a special "A" block .
Along with him , for example, former Chancellor of Austria remained Shushning , his neighbors were the son of Marshal Badoglio Italy , Churchill 's nephew , the son of the Prime Minister of France captain Blum, senior members of the governments of several European countries , prominent politicians , whom the Germans successfully exchanged for their prisoners .
On September 25, 1944 there was a fact unprecedented in the practice of Hitlerism - Bandera with a group of his supporters had been released from a concentration camp Sachsenhausen death .
Say that Bandera not collaborated with the Nazis , to deceive your mind .
Well, the above article is somewhat true. However, you can not ignore the fact that there are plenty of Russian Nazis fighting on the side of separatists in the Eastern Ukraine. You can not ignore the fact that separatism in the easter Ukraine was started by Russians from Russia (just look at their weapons and how well armed they are. )
It would be unjust to highlight one side and not to highlight the opposite. The situation is somewhat complex, and most of the coverage of it is biased.
Before the occupation of Crimea, there was no threat whatsoever to Russian speaking population in Ukraine. Sure, there were a few right wing nuts and related organizations, however no one supported them. And all of their threats were just on paper. Now, those nuts are getting much wider support, because they are trying to do what government does not, protect their country. The same story is in Russia. Most people did not belive the Ukraine was unfriendly to Russians untill the propoganda of the last two months. Now, th emajority actually believes Russians in Ukraine were prosecuted. To sum it up, Padnora box has been oppened, and there will likely to be lot's of innocent blod spilled on both sides. And the responsibility for it lies on Putin (most of it) , EU and a guy in white house talking about red lines and consequences.
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Ummmm, yes, it is ignorable. Stating something is fact because you want it to be fact does not make it fact.
Also ignorable. Cheap fantasy flight. Facts are what they are but it is also a fact that the Ukrainian Junta Citizenism citizens nature is eternal and that their capacity to deny facts will astonish.
They might even come with some properties of facts to justify their denial of facts.
That is quite a mental construction.
"quite a mental construction."
It's nearly a cottage industry these days. If you didn't know better you might be lead to think someone was desperate to control public opinion through disreputable propaganda. Or something.
I'm pretty sure the hard evidence suggests that the US had funneled $5 billion into Ukraine with the intent of bringing it in line with the West as of December 13, 2013, and that we were planning on installing a puppet government BEFORE Yanukovych fled. I'm also pretty sure that such foreign meddling when conducted on Russia's front doorstep is guaranteed elicit a response, right or wong, given Russia's history of being invaded. Just picture how the US would react if Russia was conducting similar monkey business in Mexico.
And, BTW, in that video where the APC gets torched in Kiev, there are signs that it was planned. Who, pray tell, carried out that attack?
(just look at their weapons and how well armed they are.
You miss the fact that entire formations of the Ukraine military refused the order to attack civilians and were then disbanded by the putschists in Kiev. The 25th Airborne Battalion was one of these formations. After being disbanded they placed their weapons and APCs in the service of the people, those people opposed to the undemocratic and unelected government in Kiev, the one placed in power by the USSA and its $5 billion in funding.
No, actually the responsibility lies with the Neocunt and her EU fucktards who could not leave well enough alone.
She and her ilk know very well how to tear apart a country.
We have seen it again and again. It is no coincidence.
I am found of Neocunts & EU experiment as much as you are. However, Putin can give amost any neocon run for his money when it comes to Empire building.
please tell what "empire building" has Putin Administration done?
compare to the MIC empire unto itself acting out in bad way to unbuilding civilization
It's not emprie building if it brings home our oil from those dirty countries.
Putin knows very well how to play the game.
The neoclown game is to open Pandora's box on behalf of oil companies and klepto financiers.
It is too complicated for most people to understand.
Fortunately nearly all complicated things eventually collapse of their own inconsistencies. Were it not so the stupid people of the world would have found themselves being routinely used for food starting 4,000 years ago.
Eggzachery. Fuck the East and the West and all thugs inbetween.
In an odd way France has surrendered to Germany again, and the Huns are running rampant across Europe.
This time it is banks not tanks, and the U.S. is on the side of Germany and Japan.
What, is it so much more acceptable wrapped in the flag of "democracy"?
We shouldn't be surprised to see a Sino-Russian alliance.
Dumb and Dumber.
'Americans' residing in Germany are not of the side of the US.
On the contrary, they do as much as they can to try to slow down the advance of the US in their eastern sphere of influence.
Today, it is 'americans' vs 'americans'
There is no german economical miracle. The bonus they have is to be connected to one area of the world that has not yet be fully consumed by the 'american' way of doing things.
Just as the 'americans' residing in France did not support the effort of the US to expand in Africa (their turf), the 'americans' residing in Germany do not support the effort of the US in their eastern turf.
The german press echoes all the russion disinformation material.
In a way yes, and Rimbaud saw that coming :
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"Democracy
The flag goes with the foul landscape, and our jargon muffles the drum.
In great centers we’ll nurture the most cynical prostitution. We’ll massacre logical revolts.
In spicy and drenched lands! — at the service of the most monstrous exploitations, industrial or military.
Farewell here, no matter where. Conscripts of good will, ours will be a ferocious philosophy; ignorant as to science, rabid for comfort; and let the rest of the world croak. This is the real advance. Marching orders, let’s go!
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(Rimbaud, Illuminations, not very good translation....)
To paraphrase Mr Takagi: "We couldn't get you at Pearl Harbour so we did it with tape decks"
Same applies to Germany as Japan post-WWII.
Funny old world, aint it?
Meanwhile, hollywood has been very busy making Russians villians in movies again
well, then Germans get a break...
Germany gets a break
but they get no Gold ..
Thank God. I'm sick of my German brothers being trotted out ad infinitum as the bad guy.
It makes me want to crush them under my Iron Boot!
Obama was credited with the lie of the year in regard Obamacare. Obama's White House was revealed preparing a lie about a video causing the attack in Benghazi. Obama presented that lie to the whole world, when he repeated speaking at the UN. Only a fool trusts that liar about the Ukraine.
Obama gets the Noble Peace Prize and then funds war crimes in the Ukraine and Syria. Obama demanded the elected President of the Ukraine not use force against the protests and then demands, through the IMF threat to withdraw funding, that the unelected coup President use military force against protestors.
Which American fools will be the first to die for their lying master, Obama?
Playing golf will make you look only so white but joining the Nazi will transform you into a white trash outright. Dear leader must be coming in his pants seeing his Aryan brothers in action.
What is it about slavery is freedom, violence is peace that you do not undertand ? Nobel piece prize is about how many nations you can tear into pieces.
I saw the following in the Guardian. It says a lot.....
Source -> https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1375136832773724&id=100008322601683&stream_ref=5
Hello, my name is Igor Rozovskii, I'm 39 years old , I live in the city of Odessa . For 15 years I have been working as a doctor in the ambulance service .
Yesterday, as you know , in our city there was a terrible tragedy , some people kill others. Brutally murdered - burned alive. Not intoxicated, not for the inheritance of my grandmother , but because they do not share the political views of the nationalists. First, severely beaten , and then burned .
As a physician , I hurried to help those who could have been saved , but I was stopped by gunmen , not allowing to approach the wounded . One of them pushed me roughly , promising that soon me and other Jews of Odessa face the same fate .
I saw a guy who could have been saved if I could take him to the hospital , but all persuasions run blow to my face and the loss of points .
For 15 years I have seen a lot, but yesterday I wanted to cry no, not from pain or humiliation but from helplessness , to do something . In my town there was something that was not even the Nazi occupation. I wonder why the world is silent ?
Ethnic clashes where one group of people attack and kill people of a different ethnicity are so common across the world, if the world had to react to each and every one of them, they won't have time for anything else. However, the world does react to events where the government was an active or passive participant in such clashes. It is not obvious that the regime in Kyiv was either directly or indirectly behind the attacks. That some Svoboda members are part of the regime in Kyiv doesn't automatically mean they are behind the actions of anything that can be attributed to Svoboda or similarly minded people.
I agree.
I see the theory of mass self-immolation as highly probable too.
I also don't rule out a renegade band of boy scouts working on a fire starting merit badge.
Cherry pickers are always the victims, Oh lord I am a victim, I am a victim
So long as pro-Kiev thugs kill russians, they are allowed to kill as many jews as they pleased.
Quite an achievement for a Nobel Peace Prize winner to associate himself with such characters.
The West is so fucked-up...
The Nobel prize winner must do the bidding of his master, WeThePeople aka the 'american' middle class.
The 'american' middle class have always favoured nazis as long as they stay in their position.
"I wonder why the world is silent ?"
Because the money has said that in order to get the loans, there must be war.
The world is silent because the world belongs to the USSA and its dear leader insitigated the nascent civil war by overthrowing your elected president. What do you expect ? That the fox has mercy on the souls of the hens ?
Because there is no oil in the Ukraine! Hope that will answer your question doctor, I am sorry to see this in such a peaceful and wonderful country I visited many time.
birds of a feather flock together
There are two areas of shale oil resource in Ukraine. The first is in the Western area and extends from the Northern border almost to the Black Sea. The second smaller area underlies the area of Eastern Ukraine that is the centre of resistance to the putschists.
There are also reports of possible oil resources in the Black Sea off Crimea.
US oil companies were in negotiation to commence exploration activities in the months prior to the coup. THis provides possible reasons for US intervention:
1) Support US MNC resource exploitation
2) Ensure that revenues from resource exploitation go to support a "western" allied government in Kiev rather that a Russian allied government.
This would be in addition to other motives such as enabling NATO encroachment on Russia, reigniting cold war fears in support of NATO and US arms sales, blocking the creation of an EU China overland trade route (The New Silk Road), maintainence of US global reserve currency, compensating for dick headed USSA foreign policy in Syria.
Romania Wants Stronger NATO, US Military Presence
Romania's Foreign Minister Titus Corlatean has requested a strengthened presence of US and NATO forces in the country in response to the Ukrainian crisis.
While on a visit to Washington, Corlatean discussed the situation in Ukraine with US officials, including members of Congress and Senate, including John McCain and Dan Croats, respectively from the foreign affairs and intelligence committee in the Senate, Romania's ACT Media reports.
The Foreign Minister stressed the need of a long-term increased US attention to the Black Sea regions which would put a hold on attempts for destabilization...
NATO has already adopted measures on bolstering defense in the Black Sea after Moscow incorporated Ukraine's Crimean peninsula in mid-March.
A number of its vessels have been deployed to the Black Sea for joint drills with Romania and Bulgaria, which are both part of the alliance. On Friday, it emerged that a Canadian warship will be the latest Western vessels to enter Black Sea waters in a gesture of support for Ukraine.
Unlike Bulgaria, however, Romania has become the one of the staunchest supporters of toughening measures against Russia, as it has common borders both Ukraine, which is crisis-torn, and Moldova, in which the unrecognized ethnic Russian enclave of Transnistria is situated.
Bucharest has therefore adopted a harsh tone against Moscow and has decided to increase military spending by 0.2% of the GDP. Under government plans the country's defense budget should reach 2% of the economy by 2017, up from 1.36% of the output for 2013.
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Factbox: Ukraine says groups from Moldova's Transdniestria stir unrest in Odessa
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/03/us-ukraine-crisis-transdniestr...
(Reuters) - Ukraine's SBU security service says illegal military groups from Moldova's breakaway Transdniestria region worked with Russian groups to stir up unrest in the Ukrainian Black Sea city of Odessa, where dozens died in clashes on Friday.
It was not the first time largely Russian-speaking Transdniestria, a strip of Moldova bordering Ukraine and less than 100 km (62 miles) from Odessa, has been drawn into the crisis.
NATO's top military commander said in late March that the separatist region, which declared its independence in 1990, could be next in Russia's sights after its annexation of Crimea earlier in the month.
Russian President Vladimir Putin said last month the people of Transdniestria, who have voted in a referendum in favor of joining Russia one day, should have the right to decide their own fate, though he stressed the need for negotiation.
Moldova, one of Europe's poorest countries, is seeking closer ties with the European Union, which last month said Moldovans would no longer need visas to travel to most of the bloc.
Both Kiev and Moscow have alleged outside interference in clashes that have been concentrated in the mainly Russian-speaking south-east of Ukraine.
Russia's U.N. Ambassador Vitaly Churkin said English was heard over the radio as Ukrainian forces sought to dislodge pro-Russian rebels from the city of Slaviansk on Friday.
"English-speaking foreigners were noted," Churkin said.