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The 4 Deeper Truths about Benghazi and Libya
Democrats and Republicans have very different views about Benghazi, Libya.
Republicans say the Obama administration is to blame for the death of Ambassador Stevens – and have created a special committee to investigate Benghazi – while Democrats by and large say that the is nothing but politics.
The truth is bigger than either side is admitting …
First, Pulitzer prize winning reporter Seymour Hersh – who broke the story of the Mai Lai massacre in Vietnam under Nixon and the torture scandal under Bush – says that Benghazi was really a CIA outpost for running weapons capture from Libya after Gaddaffi was overthrown into Syria … approved on a bipartisan basis by both Democrats and Republicans.
Second, it has been confirmed that the U.S. backed Al Qaeda terrorists in Libya so that they would overthrow Gaddaffi.
Third, as we noted right after Gaddaffi fell, the Obama administration’s stated reason for going into Libya makes no sense. Now, RAND Corporation political scientists theorize that Obama might have decided to bomb Libya – not for any reason having to do with Libya or Gaddaffi themselves – but rather “to keep the Arab Spring going“.
The U.S. ousted Gaddaffi and then left, and Libya has now descended into chaos.
The Washington Post argues that America fighting the Libyan war is a bigger scandal than Benghazi itself:
Republicans have a potentially strong case to make against the Obama administration’s handling of Libya, as the latest political developments there underline. On Sunday, a disputed vote in parliament led to the swearing-in of a new prime minister — the sixth since former dictator Moammar Gaddafi was overthrown in 2011 with the help of U.S. and NATO air forces. The new leader, an Islamist from the city of Misurata, replaced pro-Western prime minister Ali Zeidan, who was driven out of the country this year after his government proved unable to stop a militia from filling a tanker with stolen oil.
From the safety of Europe, Mr. Zeidan conceded what was obvious all along: Libya’s post-Gaddafi government has no army and no way of establishing its authority over the hundreds of militias that sprang up in the vacuum that followed the revolution. Libya has fragmented into fiefdoms, its oil industry is virtually paralyzed, massive traffic in illegal weapons is supplying militants around the region and extremist groups such as Ansar al-Sharia, which participated in the Sept. 11, 2012, assault on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, are unchecked.
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The Obama administration and its NATO allies bear responsibility for this mess because, having intervened to help rebels overthrow Gaddafi, they then swiftly exited without making a serious effort to help Libyans establish security and build a new political order. Congress might usefully probe why the administration allowed a country in which it initiated military operations to slide into chaos.
Fourth, the Libya war – just like the Iraq war – was illegal, as noted in the New York Times, Washington Post, Huffington Post, Washington Times, Guardian, Salon, and elsewhere.
Those are four the deeper stories about Benghazi and Libya which neither the mainstream Democrats or Republicans want you to know about.
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Arming al Qaida is the gift that keeps on giving.
4 Americans vs 40,000 and counting Syrians.
Where else can the White House get a ROI like that?
What hath Obama, McCain and their DC cabal wrought? They sowed their seeds into an Arab Spring, which grew into a tangle of thorns and poison fruit. When will the sheeple and/or its media withdraw their consent to any more of their wretched leadership?
" When will the sheeple and/or its media withdraw their consent to any more of their wretched leadership?"
The media belongs to the people??? Please realize from here on that the legacy media is joined at the hip to the power structure in this country. Until this system crumbles completely under its own weight, the media will never provide information that provides any true analytical utility at all regarding the actions of the elite that own them.
Long story short, the media is owned by the real "wretched leadership". Get used to this and treat the media accordingly.
"Democrats and Republicans Are Both Missing the Big Picture On Benghazi and Libya"
Pardon me, GW, but isn't obfuscation in their job descriptions?
Love your work, just a thought.
Yeah, they aren't missing anything. They know. What they are doing is political theatre. Making lemonade with lemons.
Making lemonade with lemons hand-grenades.
A symptom of the sad state to which we've fallen. A lame President, an even worse Congress and 4 people killed because of the gutless mishandling of a situation we had no business being involved in anyway. Of course, all will be re-elected and get their pensions.
Don't know why anyone thumbed you down.
It is clear both Demicans and Republicrats support illegal wars and the rape of the Constitution.
The rest is just talk, as once they get their position it's Navy Bean soup in the House Cafeteria and when they leave cushy salaries working for RAND or a Bank or some Lobbying group, and their CONgressional pension.
Gravy train.
Ever heard of a thing called Hegalian Dialectic?
Watch this short introduction: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYhmATD8hLk
The house cafeteria didn't have navy bean soup the day I ate there.
But it had a hell of a spread.
Your link to the Seymour Hersh article is a 404. Maybe the mainstream media is covering its/Obama's tracks?
Fixed the link ... thanks.
Is the special panel a total sham? It seems theyve been real resistant and I think Tray Gowdy isn't as corrupted as the other DC "elites".
Gowdy is a preening punk who thinks he is a peacock. Just another partisan hack trying to make a reputation for himself as a holier than thou tough guy. Issa's butt buddy. As the post says, both parties know the real truth about what was going on there, but after 2 years of "investigations" they still are not discussing the core issues. The GOP is already blasting out fund raising letters & emails about this new improved "investigation". This is just political theater....again....and we poor taxpayers are funding it. Expect the Dems to do the same kind of fund raising momentarily.
Seems you've hit a couple of neg buttons.
Not me cause I'm with you on most of it.
And as a reminder "'What difference, at this point, does it make?'"
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2610598/Group-US-switched-sides-War-Terror-facilitating-500-MILLION-weapons-deliveries-Libyan-al-Qaeda-militias-leading-Benghazi-attack.html#ixzz3198KSvN5
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Negs are certain anytime you fail to fawn over a "tea party darling'. The tea party was a good idea for about 30 minutes, which is about how long it took the Kochsucker brothers to buy them out and put in right-wing, old line leadership. Pavlov's dog response. ;-)
We're going to run the same game in the Ukraine.
And it will end up being something that "no one could predict".
Their lies are interchangeable among debacles.
"Their lies are interchangeable among debacles."
Debacles? Far from it. They are crowning achievements.
Depending on your POV, you're right.
I think that sowing chaos in the region is all part of the master plan... Obama is simply continuing the neocon/neoliberal foreign policy.
“Until they became conscious they will never rebel, and until after they have rebelled they cannot become conscious.”? George Orwell, 1984
Leaderless? Anarchy? Isn't that what half the 'Hedgers want for themselves? Just leave 'em alone for a few months and watch those "pure, free markets" emerge ...
You forgot sub-plot/story #5, the kidnapping plot ....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2610598/Group-US-switched-sides-...
Hey now.
"'What difference, at this point, does it make?'
This is the quote we should bring up at the drop of a hat.
#6
Let us throw SS Schumer into the mix.Arrived @ the WH around 17:30, left at midnight on the night of the attack.
http://www.examiner.com/article/sen-schumer-emerges-as-surprise-key-play...
"Leaderless? Anarchy? Isn't that what half the 'Hedgers want for themselves? Just leave 'em alone for a few months and watch those "pure, free markets" emerge"
Hey waterhead, those free markets can only be free without the initiation of force or cohersion. Now go back and tell your government boss how you got your ass kicked at ZH and to send over some real muscle.
XP
And who is going to ensure there is no initiation of force or "cohersion"? You mean we can't just "leave them alone for a few months"? You're jumping all over the place here.
P.S. Yes, I knew I was poking a stick in a hornet's nest by making the first comment but I had to do it anyway.
Many of us see Benghazi in a much simpler context. What happened was covered up for political purposes by blaming a video since; 1) Obama's only "success" of his first administration was "defeating Al Qaeda", 2) an Al Qaeda sponsored terrorist group killed our embassador and 3) public knowledge of this would have been devastating to his re-election efforts.
The legality questions, judgment calls on whether or not we should have gone there in the first place, clandistine operations to shift arms to Syria, failure to support the new Libyan regime, etc. etc. are all appropriate criticisms, but they are not the crux of the matter that concerns many Americans.
Did Obama and his administration lie and purposefully deceive the American public for political gain?
I suspect we will learn (or maybe not) that Petraus' downfall was directly related to Benghazi. The Administration needed to get a loyalist to head the CIA in order to prevent the truth from leaking out. JMO.