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ABC NEWS--The U.S. government “kill[s] people based on metadata,” but it doesn’t do that with the trove of information collected on American communications, according to former head of the National Security Agency Gen. Michael Hayden.

Hayden made the remark after saying he agreed with the idea that metadata – the information collected by the NSA about phone calls and other communications that does not include content – can tell the government “everything” about anyone it’s targeting for surveillance, often making the actual content of the communication unnecessary.

“[That] description… is absolutely correct. We kill people based on metadata. But that’s not what we do with this metadata,” said Hayden, apparently referring to domestic metadata collection. “It’s really important to understand the program in its entirety. Not the potentiality of the program, but how the program is actually conducted.

WB7: Not the potentiality? Of course not. They're turdworthy. Who would even consider such a thing.

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Tue, 05/13/2014 - 13:30 | 4755591 VWAndy
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Put a little list together in your head of things they could do to regular folks. Most of the time people would just assume it was chance or bad luck. It might be some times. But some times its not. Even if you caught on nobody would believe you. And there is no way to prove it.

 

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 01:21 | 4753700 VWAndy
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All this passive shit is pretty fn scary. Its the non passive things that are possible that will really freak folks out.

 My guess is it goes way past planting stuff on your PC. Anything that might get them more power and/or control.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 23:35 | 4753483 williambanzai7
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This suggestion that it is better to ignore the potentialities for the greater good is of critical importance.

It is a euphemism for trust us, we know what is good for you.

As they have clearly demonstrated to us in many different ways during the past several years...

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 02:49 | 4753770 blindman
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Network (1976) - Ned Beatty - "The World is a Business"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKkRDMil0bw
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somehow, this goes here.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 23:24 | 4753430 Aquarius
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Clapper's World:

Hope the Gay USA President (Greenwald) He? / She? loves kids like other American Presidents, Bankers, Economists, and ilk, then.

http://cryptome.org/2014-info/potus-kids/potus-loves-kills-kids.htm

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-12/glenn-greenwald-2016-elections-...

 

Now what about Belgium and the games the FedRes plays to help the Bankers

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/05/12/fed-great-deceiver-paul-craig...

 

Is there a Wall Street market in Killing 'our' Children?

Why do we keep referring to 'speculators' as "Investors"?

Why do we keep referring to politicians as competent and honest?

 Ho hum

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 02:24 | 4753749 blindman
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@"..Is there a Wall Street market in Killing 'our' Children?"
putting aside "education", fast corporate food, television, hollywood
roll models, "entertainment", drugs of all sorts, prison and student loans
(in a word, economics) i don't think we are there just yet. oh wait ....
yea, the dollar will do.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 21:58 | 4753172 acetinker
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Well, it's only metadata, after all. It's hard to incite one individual to kill another individual if they actually know each other.

Make no mistake, the oligarchs wish fervently that we will kill each other- it saves them the trouble and expense.

Fuck 'em. This goes for both those who can't fkn see and those who would exploit them.

They deserve what they get, as do I

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 20:56 | 4752991 g'kar
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The Turd Reich must endure.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 22:29 | 4753265 williambanzai7
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There ya go.

The Rise and Fall of the Turd Reich by Turd Ferguson

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 19:43 | 4752759 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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http://hackread.com/anti-surveillance-mask-security-cams/

If you are not comfortable with the surveillance cameras, an identity replacement technology that is basically a Surveillance identity prosthetic provides you a new face.

If you find all people around you having the same face like you saw of the agents in Matrix 3, then Leo Selvaggio is the one to thank.

He has designed a rubber mask with the aim to foil surveillance cameras. The mask features his own visage, and if he gets his way, then many people would be supporting this Prosthetic in Public. He is basically a Chicago based artists and this prosthetic is among the three products that he made under the venture known as URME Surveillance. This venture has been formulated for the purpose of protecting the people from surveillance and for giving them a safe space for the purpose of exploring their digital identities.

...

The URME stated that:

“Our world is becoming increasingly surveilled. For example, Chicago has over 25,000 cameras networked to a single facial recognition hub.” It was further stated on the website that, “We don’t believe you should be tracked just because you want to walk outside and you shouldn’t have to hide either. Instead, use one of our products to present an alternative identity when in public.”

It is basically a 3D printed resin mask which has been made by using a 3D scan (of Selvaggio’s face), and has been formulated by Thatsmyface.com. The mask renders both his skin tone and his features, and provides quite a realistic look. However the eyes which appears from the eye holes in the mask look a bit creepy. Well creepiness is actually a part of the whole idea of the artist i.e. “my face in your face”. This approach is with the aim of exploring the impacts which have been caused by this hugely networked era on personal identity.

The artists said that:

“When you wear these devices the cameras will track me instead of you and your actions in public space will be attributed as mine because it will be me the cameras see.” He further said that, “All URME devices have been tested for facial recognition and each properly identifies the wearer of me on Facebook, which has some of the most sophisticated facial recognition software around.”

...

 

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 23:45 | 4753526 palmereldritch
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There is art and sadly, misplaced science:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/identity-profiling-covert-biometrics.html

 

DARPA has begun a four year research program called ‘Active Authentication’, which will focus on methods to validate identity online using cognitive biometrics, such as computers which ‘recognise’ the operator by assessing their habitual movements, and comparing it to their stored profile to validate identity in real time.

Late last year, DARPA announced another research project called ‘Human Identification at a Distance’, which includes developing techniques which can covertly collect reliable heart biometrics to verify identify without any contact with the person being tracked. Wired.com announced,

“In 2006, Darpa developed Radar Scope,which used radar waves to sense through walls and detect the movements associated with respiration. A year later, the Army invested in LifeReader, a system using Doppler radar to find heartbeats. More recently, the military’s been using devices like the AN/PPS-26 STTW (“Sense Through the Wall“) and TiaLinx’s Eagle scanner, which can sense the presence of humans and animals through walls.

Handy though these gadgets may be, Darpa wants to one-up them with some new and better capabilities.

First off, Darpa wants its biometric device to be able to work from farther away. Right now, it says the accuracy of most systems taps out at around eight meters. And while some see-through devices can see through up to eight inches of concrete, they don’t do as well in locations with more or thicker walls. So Darpa’s looking for the next system to push that range past 10 meters, particularly in cluttered urban areas.”

 

the following features can be tracked from a distance, covertly:

  • Face
  • Iris and retina
  • Eye movements
  • Veins
  • Ears
  • Outline of hand patterns
  • Body odour
  • Finger prints
  • Finger image
  • Keystroke
  • Voice
  • Sweat pores
  • Vital signs: heart signature, brain wave patterns – these are unique to each individual because of our DNA (the heart and brain are composed of protein tissues)
  • Behavioural/cognitive biometrics e.g. gait, breathing, emotional responses to targeted stimuli, galvanic skin response.
  • Gait

http://www.infowars.com/new-behaviometrics-technology-allows-government-...
Big Brother doesn’t just want to know where you are, he wants to know what you’re thinking. Short of implanting a device in your brain that divulges your every thought, the government has opted for the next best thing – behaviometrics – a new omnipresent surveillance technology developed for the US Air Force and destined to be used in law enforcement to “monitor suspicious behavior”.

 The system revolves around a camera that tracks facial movements biometrically in order to build a psychological profile of the individual under surveillance.

“Huntsville, Alabama’s Photon-X, Inc. recently received an Air Force contract to develop such a camera,” reports Wired News. With one snap, the company claims, its sensor can build a three-dimensional image of a person’s face: the cornerstone of a distinctive “bio-signature” that can be used to track that person anywhere. With a few frames more, the device can capture that face’s unique facial muscle motions, and turn those movements into a “behaviormetric” profile that’s even more accurate.

This new technology is the next step up from DARPA’s infamous gait analysis program, which purported to be able to identify terrorists by the way they walked. 

 

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 21:46 | 4753141 the grateful un...
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if you walk into a public place wearing a mask the cops are going to jump on you. (not sure what the law says about wearing masks in public places, oh whats that you say? the cops will beat the shit out of you and throw your mask in the trash.) right

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 20:52 | 4752983 Seer
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I think that it would be appropriate for everyone to wear a mask of Alfred E. Newman... (that or Guy Fawkes, not sure which I like more)

And then there's this one from that great movie Brazil:

http://www.yourprops.com/Brazil-Baby-Mask-replica-movie-prop-Brazil-1985...

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 23:27 | 4753453 Cthonic
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J.R. Dobbs

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 20:08 | 4752841 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Think of all the fun you can have if a couple of hundred people though it will probably only take about 10 or so showed up at once all over Chicago with Michael Hayden masks on carrying black knapsacks and pressure cookers. The software and server would probably have a nervous breakdown....

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 19:38 | 4752745 Dewey Cheatum Howe
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Snapchat has agreed to settle with the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) deception charges leveled against itself without admitting or denying any wrongdoing, says an official statement released on Thursday.

As part of the settlement, the company is required to implement a privacy program monitored by an outside privacy expert for the next 20 years.

This settlement is similar to arrangements endorsed by Google, Facebook, and Myspace.

FTC had complained against Snapchat for ‘making multiple misrepresentations to consumers about its product that stood in stark contrast to how the app actually worked.

...

 

Other charges slapped against Snapchat included:

  • It stored video snaps unencrypted on the recipient’s device in a location outside the apps’ ‘sandbox’
  • Misrepresentation of data collection practices
  • Collection of iOS users’ contacts information from their address books without their consent: The apps, during registration, prompted the users to enter their mobile number to find their friends on Snapchat. It informed the users that the apps will collect their email, phone numbers, and Facebook ID. However, it also collected the names and phone numbers of all the contacts in their mobile device’s address book without the users’ permission.
  • Failure to secure its ‘Find Friends’ feature that resulted in a security breach that allowed the attackers to collect usernames and phone numbers of 4.6 million Snapchat users. The apps was updated later and provided the users with an option to opt out of the Find Friends feature.

Snapchat is a widely used messaging apps, which promises privacy and security, because the messages exchanged through its servers do not stay there forever but disappear after the recipient has viewed the message.

However, FTC claimed that messages did not disappear; conversations, images and videos could be easily saved by third party applications and that the application’s premises were misleading.

FTC recorded several cases of misrepresentations from the messaging company. Recipients could easily access the videos once they connected their mobile device to a computer and navigated the file directory of the device. As well, FTC found a false claim about the user receiving a notification whenever the recipient tries to take a screenshot of the video or the message. A recipient using Apple device with an operating system prior to iOS 7 can escape the screenshot detection.

Additionally, the Snapchat’s Android application transmitted geolocation information of its users, observed the FTC.

...

 

Snapchat is a Los Angeles-based company, run by Evan Spiegel and Bobby Murphy, two former Stanford alumni.

Released in 2011, the service quickly gained a following and now claims to transmit 700 million messages every day.

...

But it is no big deal because 4 out of 5 dentists agree

...

Security researchers firmly believe that anything sent over the Internet stands chance of interception and that anything posted on the Internet remains forever.

...

Well no shit sherlock that doens't absolve them from doing nothing about protecting the content from prying eyes.


Mon, 05/12/2014 - 19:24 | 4752706 nmewn
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#FascistsInControl

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 19:11 | 4752657 Lumberjack
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European Court of Justice (ECJ) Confirms Application of Consumer Protection Measure to Cross-Border Services

 

http://www.natlawreview.com/article/european-court-justice-ecj-confirms-...

 

In its UPC judgment this week the European Court of Justice (“ECJ”) has clarified the application of consumer protection laws to, and the jurisdiction of national regulatory authorities over, providers of electronic communications services (“ECS”) that are established in one member state who provide services in another.  The court also confirmed that ECS providers need not establish a branch in member states in which they provide service, as long as they are established in at least one member state.

Facts.  The case was referred to the ECJ by a Hungarian Municipal Court dealing with legal proceedings relating to a fine issued by the Hungarian telecoms regulator against UPC (a Luxembourg-established supplier of packages of radio and audio-visual broadcast services which are uplinked to satellites from Luxembourg ).  The fine was issued after UPC refused to provide information regarding its contractual relationship with a customer to the Hungarian regulator, on the basis that the regulator did not have jurisdiction over UPC’s activities.

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Keep an eye on UPC. Both on telecom and energy issues. 

 

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 19:04 | 4752639 Grouchy Marx
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The more I read the news, the more I realize Snowden is an outright hero.

Sure, he may have aided our enemies, and I denounce that to whatever degree true, but he exposed clearly that the greatest enemy of America is its own leaders who have repudiated the Constitution, and those among us who have sworn to protect it, yet fail to even raise the slightest objection.

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 10:14 | 4754464 Seeing Red
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Computer backdoors give the NSA information.  Information is power.  Power is always abused (ok, perhaps not immediately).  Snowden spoke up on OUR behalf (people don't seem to get this); he is a true patriot.

Note to Cisco et al regarding your recent foreign sales losses:  Lie down with dogs, and you get up with fleas.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 19:18 | 4752686 EscapingProgress
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"Sure, he may have aided our enemies..." You should rethink that.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 19:34 | 4752734 Grouchy Marx
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Before I get droned? Yes, Mr. Clapper, I am deeply sorry. No, you can't have a list of all of my friends. Why are you laughing? 

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 20:48 | 4752972 Seer
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I retain the e-mail addresses of people that I no longer wish to associate with (people that have pissed me off).  It's clutter, but if I get probed by the lizard people they're going to be probing all my "contacts."  Doing my part for KARMA...

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 19:15 | 4752676 rsnoble
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Congrats you're now a terrorist just like me.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 18:48 | 4752589 Sathington Willougby
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never trust an insect

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 17:47 | 4752424 Obamanism
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Metadata is the MEANS to your ENDS

 

You like your Metadata then you can keep your Metadata

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 16:52 | 4752239 pupdog1
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I'm certain that the accused at Nuremberg squealed about their constitutional rights.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 16:38 | 4752189 hot sauce technician
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Facebook, twitter and friends

are means, not the ends

subjugation the objective

your security subjective

circuses for the plebs - to make amends

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 16:38 | 4752186 the grateful un...
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killing people using metadata is essentially genocide

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 22:57 | 4753348 blindman
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a far cry from trial before a jury of
your peers evaluating facts and evidence.
that process was put to the dustbin to
cover up the 9/11 crime and the "country",
apparently, concluded if this new order of
justice is good enough for the foreigners
it is good enough for the domestics. moral hazard
has become the promoted by corporate and government
norm so we will circle the drain for a while.
and not one in a hundred gives a shit or even
could understand these simple things. it is crazy
because they are all so smart and capable but this,
they refuse to see.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 20:56 | 4752993 Pitchman
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That is exactly what the Nazi's and IBM did.

Where exactly are we, 1934 or 1837.

http://notionalvalue.blogspot.com/

Tue, 05/13/2014 - 02:48 | 4753769 El Vaquero
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Or 1774.  Or 1859.  Or 1897.  Or 1913.  I can find parallels between all of those times and today.  History doesn't repeat, it rhymes, and this time around, it has a lot of material to rhyme with.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 16:30 | 4752153 blindman
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in the hayden/greenwald and others debate hayden
objected to the claim that the nsa collects content,
stating "that is what google does". if i remember correctly.
then, google gives the content to the nsa i'm sure. the google
stock is apparently highly recommended and doing well, buying
some of its own drones?
so there is the fascist national security state in full bloom,
in every retirement account in the country, no? even reggie
loves there business model and management and everyone uses
their products.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 18:30 | 4752542 the grateful un...
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they can use metadata as a justification to do content searches (wiretaps and so forth) their justification is that the false positives will not be prosecuted (of course). if you happen to have certain content red flags (they're looking for someone with relatives in NJ by ex) they will investigate you.

if the content doesn't match their metadata profile, they you don't have any thing to worry about (notice the word profile) but if they find a marijuana plant in your basement will they use that against you? yes if they really think you are it, and they want to go after you and dont have enough evidence. its always been this way. its also likely they will go after you, and lacking any reasonable cause they will cook some metadata and take it to the (quote) judge.

everyone worries about the CIA, which is largely what it is says it is, information gathering, and no one considers the insidious record of the FBI as a tool for political attacks. most of that is passe. your either a statist or a terrorist, and the few tea party cranks are mostly ineffective at changing anything. (truth) bagging terrorists is a sport, which pays the political bulldog. the real issue is what all this metadata is being used for, which is a corporate system of consumer needs to be used in means tested dispersement of government entitlements. this is their plan for oppressing us, if your political views and intentions are not in line you will never get into Harvard (with the kerrys and bushes) and other things like healthcare food transportation, will all be rationed according to your needs (sounds vaguely marxist and it is) its  brave new world, where you live, what you eat, where you travel are all going to be rationed. govenrment decides who gets the goodies (just like now hanidng money to wall street and adios to main street)

 

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 16:25 | 4752131 kchrisc
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Think about it, what he actually said is that ALL people are just 6 degrees of separation from being droned to death.

 

"The DC US criminals and their bankster masters are only 4 degrees away from my guillotine."

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 17:11 | 4752313 Squid-puppets a...
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and on the metadata by which we visit ZH, so are we targeted irrespective of the content we place here.

Fuck you NSA. Fuck you Obama. Long live king Snowden

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 17:32 | 4752375 kchrisc
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Another way to think about it is, that because of me and my "metadata" connection to my children, they are now subject to a "kill-list" droning.

"Good morning, welcome to the police-state."

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 19:11 | 4752660 Squid-puppets a...
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yer

i think i'll hold a wedding in afghanistan, invite everyone i hate (that means you jamie dimon & co), and not turn up meself

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 20:48 | 4752964 Seer
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[deleted- missed my target]

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 16:00 | 4752027 kchrisc
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"My guillotine works on Constitutional oath and Article 3, Section 3 violation metadata."

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 15:39 | 4751927 dontgoforit
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I'd say if you're on their list, you're history if you've really scared them.  Justification after the fact is easy for anyone willing to say anything in order to achieve their goals.  Under the guise of 'protection' our constitution is being shredded by the very folks who took an oath to uphold it.  Talk about Catch 22...

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 15:37 | 4751919 Emergency Ward
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That's that fucker EriKKK Holder in that Nazi costume, right?  He shaved the 'stache.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 16:14 | 4752095 Jumbotron
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"That's that fucker EriKKK Holder in that Nazi costume, right?  He shaved the 'stache."

That's because Obama complained that it scratched his ass.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 15:46 | 4751905 Save_America1st
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The NSA's spying again

They lie and say they are our friend

With friends like these...

...who needs enemies

They're all just NAZI's - in the end

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 15:31 | 4751880 Colonel Klink
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We aren't citizens but property of the US corporation, to be done with as they see fit.

Learn from government, freedom and justice come from the barrel of a gun.  In both directions!

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 16:06 | 4752055 kchrisc
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As for me being their property, my AK and guillotine say, "Molon Labe."

 

"If the choice is to die miserably working for them in a work camp, or to die miserably working to end them. I will choose the later."

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 15:21 | 4751830 Zirpedge
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The potentiality of turning this drone warfare apparatus on the 'Merican public is like having a priapism you just cant satisfy.

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 17:26 | 4752359 mccvilb
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Priapism = Woodie for those without their Oxford's English Dicktionary handy... or Goldie if you're me (but ZH regulars wood know this).

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 15:43 | 4751940 Patriot Eke
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I just finished commenting on a picture from FascistBook where a long list of people were practically begging for the government to use drones domestically to kill people.  I'm not kidding...

Mon, 05/12/2014 - 16:02 | 4752036 kchrisc
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Link please.

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!