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New Snowden Document Implies NSA May Be Putting Israel's Security Ahead of America's
The following leaked slide from Edward Snowden was released today by Glenn Greenwald in his new book, No Place to Hide:
If you can't read the slide, it says:
Balancing the SIGINT exchange equally between US and Israeli needs has been a constant challenge in the last decade, it arguably tilted heavily in favor of Israeli security concerns. 9/11 came, and went, with NSA's only true Third Party CT relationship being driven almost totally by the needs of the partner.
That is a stunning statement. It implies that the signals intelligence exchange between the American and Israeli governments has been driven almost entirely by the NSA giving information to the Israelis, instead of Israel giving information to the U.S. ... even though we were the ones attacked on 9/11.
Remember, the raw data on American citizens collected by the NSA is shared with Israel. As the Guardian reported in September:
The National Security Agency routinely shares raw intelligence data with Israel without first sifting it to remove information about US citizens, a top-secret document provided to the Guardian by whistleblower Edward Snowden reveals.
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According to the agreement, the intelligence being shared would not be filtered in advance by NSA analysts to remove US communications. “NSA routinely sends ISNU [the Israeli Sigint National Unit] minimized and unminimized raw collection”, it says.
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A much stricter rule was set for US government communications found in the raw intelligence. The Israelis were required to “destroy upon recognition” any communication “that is either to or from an official of the US government“. Such communications included those of “officials of the executive branch (including the White House, cabinet departments, and independent agencies), the US House of Representatives and Senate (member and staff) and the US federal court system (including, but not limited to, the supreme court)”.
This not only raises major privacy concerns for American citizens, but it might mean that Israel is spying on the American Congress and other high-level politicians.
We have nothing against Israel, but - as American citizens - we want our intelligence agencies to put the American people and American security first.
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Knowing what we know now, you cannot be a decent person if you are not anti semetic.
I can think of a handful of American jews that are critical of Israeli policies, AIPAC, and their control of the global financial system. And you know what happens to them, they are attacked and destroyed by ADL and other extremist organizations. Look at what happened to Professsor Norman Finkelstein. Or David Cole.
Find me one jew on this forum that will publically criticize this out of control situation.
Crickets.
Claiming that calling out the jews is anti-semitic is a complete canard. Did you even know that these people aren't even semites?
Do your research GW before you criticize those who have.
Agreed and up-voted.
Ashkenazi Jews, more than 80 percent of all world Jewry are in fact Asiatic mongoloids. NOT.THE.CHOSEN.ONES.
Buyig land in Israel, or wearing a yamaka, or being anti-christian atheists (most Israeli jews are) does not mean you are ISRAEL, the tribes thereof thousands of years ago.
So, bite me!
The assumption of this article is that the NSA gives two shits about our security. Give me a break!!!!!!!
Tuco
Im shocked I say, just shocked.
Israel bought up the infrastructure and now owns the NSA. The NSA sends it's raw data to Israel.
Another reason I am not sad my occupied country is going down in flames.
its the only way out at this point.
What's the correct expression?
'Shocked, I tell you! Shocked and SHAKEN!'
Have you ever danced with the devil, in the pale moonlight?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr0dvW9jmtY
An 'INSIDE JOB'?
HOW DARE YOU? HOW DARE YOU?!?
It's necessary to spy on the politician you purchased to be certain he is implementing your plans.
No shit!! Couldn't have said it better myself.
Hey Moshe!
I'm doin' yer girlfriend.
Now I'm a Hebrewsexual.
How ya like them apples?
WOW.
I mean, if you wanna fuck Jewish girls (or goys), that's YOUR choice.
I like all types of women, myself, but I have to warn you that you have to put up with all of that 'KULTCHAH' stuff, in your current life decision.
HERE: Let me guide you over to a site that will appeal to you:
http://www.jewcier.com/ShowLogin.do?trackid=000000181191&subid=159311678...
How about that 'play on werds' stuff, huh, Bernie?
'JEWCIER'...
I have to downvote you now, as you seem to aquaint everything in a sexual connotation.
GOD, what a SCHMUCK you are!
Not to digress from the premise of this editorial, but I believe "Ed Snowman" and the NSA revelations are probably the least of our worries after spotting this one.
When I read it the first time I said to myself this might just be Russia's way of saying you've done way too much already (killing several dozen Russian speaking Ukrainians) and I need to extend my appreciation to you President Remus and your wonderful handlers with a nuclear deterrent exercise on my borders along with a very public gesture involving the Russian people this time that all is not going too well with Washington at the moment and you won't be leaving the Country anytime soon...
Or
Perhaps his Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines are seeing some things that they don't like in the way of intelligence information with the NATO gang and he made the decision to be a bit more proactive than he'd like, but hey when you have troop movements, ships and planes at your doorstep "dinging that bell" you answer the door!
I'll say it again. Where the fuck are the American people? And more importantly where is the entire American intelligence community after the lies that have been told the last 13 years walking away from their job "for good"? How could any paycheck be worth the potential of a hot war with Russia and China?...
And even if they had the goods that would secure some kind of sick victory (which I don't believe the U.S. possesses) after all the harm we've done to our reputations forever destroyed along with the human lives taken, what would that victory look like with half a World potentially wiped out!
How fucking sick could anyone possibly be? When you think about the story of Judus and his betrayal of his Master, he's looking pretty damn wonderful at this point compared to the United States of America!
I feel sorry for you, Nemo.
Seriously, I feel pain and angst at your statements. Those such as myself tried to tell you, but you willfully decided to choose the 'other' side.
In your obviously pained and twisted way, you automatically assume that those who are less exposed (and quite a bit younger) than you are somehow to be shunned with personal attacks on their own selves; by the means of fake apologetic argument, distraction, deflection, and 'name-calling' that has NO basis in logical or empirical facts as known or revealed. This maneouver that you have used, however, emulates another one which was made famous (infamous?) by one 'Saul Alinsky', in his tome 'Rulebook For Radicals'. You are laying it on thick and heavy, in your opening statement; TO WITNESS:
"Not to digress from the premise of this editorial, but I believe "Ed Snowman" and the NSA revelations are probably the least of our worries after spotting this one."
Ah, yes, you even seem to 'AGREE', as far as this goes for those who are still questioning or are not fully aware of the shit... as you go on to describe your desire that the United States (the CONSTITUTIONAL one) be 'dismantled'.
Well, perhaps you are simply spouting your viewpoint (as you supposedly 'see' it). I'll give you the benefit of doubt, here (but, I really REALLY had to downarrow your comment, because you appear to be using the same debate tactics that the CPUSA uses).
MS
Not sure what you are alluding to with respect to the other side?...
If you are referring to Zionist State Israel, well then yes of course I am well aware of the influence, arrogance and control they have always had over the Nation that put them on the map with the tacit approval of the British who no longer had the financial means or ability to control the "experiment" that we mutually gave birth to and the ultimate price that both have paid in it's creation?
Whether we like to admit these truths or not, tell me how 19th Century Westward Expansion in North Ameirca is any different to Israel's invasion, occupation and settlement of Palestine? Israel is a theocratic fascist oligarchy that hijacked a religion and told the World that God told them it was their land, the same way Western Europeans colonized North America all the while obeying the laws of the land that "All Men are Created Equal"... endowed by their creator with "certain unalienable rights"...
And now 238 years later that "manifest destiny/theocratic fascist oligarchy" is still open for business and changing the words and deeds to suit it's agenda as it's always done only this time with another superpower that has the means to defend itself unlike any other in history.
Ironically the same superpower that helped the Union keep the British and French out of it's territory while it was fighting a civil war and again helped it to win a World War that lost countless millions of it's own compared to the hundreds of thousands that the U.S. lost!
I'm also not sure what your premise is when you suggest that I have a desire to dismantle the Constitution??? In fact nothing could be further from the truth. If I' haven't made my point clear... We need to live the words of that Constitution through deeds if we are ever to see it's greatest potential realized. This is something we've never managed to fully secure because of the many contradictions to the laws we never have fully observed and obeyed at different times throughout our short history.
With the NDAA as that ultimate of all contradictions to the backdrop of the Constitution, lets hope we still have time to reach the rest in this Country that either don't understand or don't care about the ultimate costs and burden that would be associated to a war with a Country we have no business or means to control -before it's too late!
Our reputations?
Haha...You funny guy.
+100
The USs name should be changed to "Judonia" - the Hageeites would climax all over themselves and it would be very accurate.
New Khazaria.....?
read Koestler's 13th tribe....
smells Caucasian to me.
You are a victim of Jewish misdirection. Twelve major genetic studies (Jewish and gentile) have concluded that Jews across the world (Sephardic and Azkenazi) share 70% of their DNA. That is to say that they have more in common with each other than with the local population they parasite off. Jews try to persuade you they are not a race, or at least not the Hebrew race, so you don't realise that their negative genetic charactistics go back thousands of years. Thety have been screwing people for a very long time.
There was a study from a Jewish guy at John Hopkins which concluded that the Khazar hypothesis was correct. But closer inspection didn't support this conclusion. The guy couldn't even properly locate one of his population samples in Africa.
Israel causes many serious problems for the United States, so I have a problem with them getting this intel on all of us including our three branches of government. Providing this type of information should be considered treason as far as I'm concerned. Exactly who is our government protecting anyway? Are we just pieces of fucking meat?
"Are we just pieces of fucking meat?"
Well, Skippy, welcome to REALITY 101!
Your course instructor has been called all kinds of derogatory names, and is quite young and idealistic, but we're sure that you will overlook these issues and see the facts that he presents with an open and honest mind...
IN-Q-TEL was doing this shit way before September 11. Look the stuff up.
SNOWDEN isn't revealing 'news'. he is simply confirming what others have already TOLD YOU (while you were willingly being a part of the 'digital transition').
SO: You went to work for that 'big company', never questioning the fact that your hiring and position and pay were directed by a group of, um, 'people' called 'the H.R. department'. You KNOW this stands for 'Human Resources', but never questioned the concept that you willingly and blindly accepted (because you were taught from childhood to NEVER put the meanings of ANY words in true CONTEXT).
Natural resources. Man-made resources. Capital resources. HUMAN resources. Something to use up, and dispose of when done with (or, when viability studies suggest that the upkeep/production ratio will soon cross the 1:1 curve in a descending arc on the pie-chart).
"Are we just pieces of fucking meat?"
NAW. Meat is already dead, and cut from the body; ready to be consumed. It is not animate, and cannot bitch, moan, and pule about it's condition as it sits upon the plate. They do THAT to your body LATER, when they sell your organs on the so-called 'Black Market'.
YOU are 'CHATTEL'.
A LIVE, HUMAN COW. Being MILKED doesn't feel good, but when your masters throw the GMO hay out, you fill your belly with it. You're conditioned to think that this type of exchange is somehow 'natural', via phrases like 'give and take'.
Your next class is starting, called 'Musical Appreciation 102a'. Your teachers are a group of long-haired revolutionaries, who got their start in a garage in Sausolito, CA., long before you were born, I suppose. Their current field of study discusses the ties between the slave classes and their masters. Their presentation will describe the point of view of the 'lower' of these so-called 'classes':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyQDr4ZBvAA
I read the article, and slammed my hand against my forehead in mock realization. I said, out loud, "GEE, YAH THINK?!?" Further, as I finished, I exclaimed in mock seriousness, "REALLY?!?"...
Back when i was a kid, we used to make fun of people who were so fucking blind to the facts that they were surprised when this stuff was pointed out to them, by looking in to their faces, and saying, "WELL? DUH!" (reference: internet picture entitled 'Picard Facepalm'. for further eludication)
Since you have managed to make it over here to the Fight Club, you might not be as stupid as your question appears, however.
For what it's worth, vampires, spiders, various parasites require a living host as meat to feed on.
Once you know the context it all makes sense.
USSA prime goyimburger.
Are we just pieces of fucking meat?
At time, useful meat.
i think we are talking about technological
annihilation capabilities as they relate to
family "money", money being the capital that
translates and gives access to the lever of
energy usage, the power to flip the switch
and the power that comes from flipping the
switch; that which is transmitted, that
which is impacted and the affects. more complex
than even a three body problem so no single noun
can ever come close to depicting the beast as
it is. no single perspective can encompass the
milieu , always in search of the other perspective
to satisfy the deficiency the mind knows. when alert
and sharp the mind
knows an honest account from a deception at first blush.
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nouns. capabilities. potential nuclear strikes.
geography. technology. none of it is by accident
nor is there any innocence or sanity in it. imho
Money is an easy singular concept. That which serves well as a traded object is money.
Everything else is junk, some forced on us like fiat usury-based currency.
One time, back in Hermosa Beach, when you could get any type of drug that you can imagine, I look some blotter LSD called 'Four-way Windowpane'. Well, since i had smoked some Thai-stick (I was taught that the correct spelling was 'TIE-STICK', because they have a stick that they TIE the buds to, before they hang the sticks to 'resonate' over the boiling opium vats; in TAILAND) and had a few beers and a few lines of 90% coke, I was talked in to trying it.
While your comment isn't quite as lucid as my experiences in this regard, it reminds me of this, in a vague, disconnected, and quite irrelevant fashion.
I thank GOD that Metallica hadn't cut their first album at this time, as I would probably had gone on a 'poetry and shooting spree'.
The madman, spouting Shakespeare, and continuously pulling the trigger of the M-14... See the yuppies, fleeing, and laughing at the sight of the chaos... nouns, capabilities, tanks, guns, nuclear strikes...
The words 'MY' and 'OPINION' are the dipolar opposites of the root word 'HUMILITY'; from which comes the derivative 'HUMBLE' (shut up, and listen; bend over and take what you are given; opinions mean NOTHING in the presence of those who KNOW). THUS, the abbreviation 'IMHO' as a conclusion to your weird statement becomes meaningless.
'I THINK...'
This is INCORRECT phraseology. You have to KNOW, before speaking. FACTS are the only things that are important, and so-called 'opinions' are like ASSHOLES. EVERYONE has one, and most don't smell very good; and what people 'think' really isn't coherent or important to contributing to discussions regarding, well, ANYTHING of magnitude.
I'm really NOT 'DISSING' you, you know.
HMMM... 'DISreSpectING'...
What a strange 'Ebonics' word... it reminds me of like 'Hebonics', or Hedonics', or 'Hebrewnomics', when they talk about 'broken windows' that will 'stimulate the economy' or the number of 'cup holders' that a car has when it is produced being a 'metric' of the 'intrinsic value increase' that is 'value-added' and can be used to 'calculate' the 'net gain in value'; thus 'driving up' the 'GDP' statistical reports... after 'they' factor OUT the obvious losses like the thickness of the steel being used for the body panels, and the paring down of the number of strands in the wiring... AND adding the 'cool wheels' to the car, thus increasing the 'BLING' quotient... like good Hebrewconomists do...
NO fucking FAKE HUMILTY here, boi.
no single perspective can encompass the
milieu , always in search of the other perspective
to satisfy the deficiency the mind knows. when alert
and sharp the mind
knows an honest account from a deception at first blush.
OOH, the MILIEU!
FIRST BLUSH!
Let me see your soft, well-manicured hands, boi. The obvious lack of callouses in your palms tells me that you are soft, and not accostumed to the capabilities and realities of survival and providership as a MAN sees it.
'When alert, and sharp the mind...' You forgot a comma in your fake 'pregnant pause' moment.
I'm really NOT 'DISSING' you, you know
One day, you'll look back, and understand. You might even thank me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCsH1g5ZESk
Methinks you have Un tied the TieStick today.
@Montgomery
Is that you Les Visible?
Smoking mirrors!
let me start with wtf? and a couple historic links
to shred your mind should you decide wrapping it around
current political policy is worth the effort. this shock and
awe is for them and us to share, here, in this life. a legacy
gifted to the children.
.
The New American Century. Part 1/10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U14cONsdsYQ
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The Grand Design: The Hidden Plan That Shapes U.S. Foreign Policy | G. Edward Griffin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz4PXuykXdE
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The Moon Landings Fact or Fiction complete fixed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mzh-CWImMA
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http://www.youtube.com/user/TREAPATRA
Patrea Patrick - American Empire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOxkaFCvTRU
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Norman Dodd and Stan Monteith - The Enemy Within [Foundations]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8irQifrpmEY
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i'm really not trying to overload your internet choices
with the above links, just interesting stuff.
my hands have seen it all, nearly. some things my mind
could, would and will never let them see.
Throwing around the term "treason" has become as passe as making nazi comparisons... and yet... we could quite comfortably stand firm on Constitutional grounds and lawfully try and jail and / or execute a substantial number of senior government officials and elected representatives for the ways in which they have sold America down the toilet to the highest bidder.
No wonder they're afraid of patriots.
One day..... one day..............
Dream on Dr. Bonzo - 'merica is full of cowards and bootlickers. Witness all the "brave men and women" who bomb children from the air or the ones who beat down reluctant arabs on the vast battle theaters of 'merica. Country is full of brainwased dupes who tear up at the sight of 'merican military commercials.
Now cowards and bootlickers. Your institutional structure has been taken, corrupted (and the MSM) and the people who runs them has beem bought. However, it's not just the USA.
At a certain point we'll face it and we'll have to choose. Freedom or the NWO kind of. It's gonna be hard, I believe. They've become too powerful over the years.
I thought 9/11 was going to cause the domino to start falling, that americans will react 'cause it was so too fuck..g much, though.
By the way: "They" are not all jews, of course.
What about Saudi Arabia, for instance?
Nonsensical non-sequiturs
Errata corrige.
I meant "NOT" cowards and bootlickers.
And "been" not "beem".
Sorry.
The Saudi royal family are reputidly of Iraqi Jewish descent.
Without Jews there would be no NWO. There are useful idiots and traitors. But it is interesting to note how many of those "traitors" turn out to be crypto Jews. For example, the author of the Balfor agreement was secretly Jewish accoring to a Rabbi who did background research on him. These people commonly change their names to hide the extent of their influence e.g. John Kerry.
god's chosen people will be shat on repeatedly because their god is the dark prophet lucifer hence on one hand they are feared and on the other hand they have endured the worst plagues visited on any people in history. Pity the jew for they are marked for destruction hence the self inflicted marking they endure for their god's sake. The lower case is intentional.
Sorry I had to thumbs up because it's so freaking hilarious.
never lose the main plot, the hand that lends,
from the thin air, is above the hand that borrows
and is closer to the ground. i say scam,
ricki says scram.
That the Israeli's were "required" to destroy any communication identfiable as orginating with an official of the US government is both laughable and equally to the point shows the level of surveillance being conducted. It was altogether anticipated by the NSA in data dumps to Israel Ivy Bells station that communications of this type would be swept up. The NSA spies on, simply put, EVERYBODY, ALL THE TIME, THE BEST THEY CAN. AND THEY ARE TRYING TO DO BETTER.
This is the modern digital age accumulation of the secret files that J. Edger Hoover kept personally for decades when he was the head of America's internal security agency.....a role they happily filled in tracking and suppressing dissent throughout the entirety of Hoover's tenure.
The identification of dissidents, suppression of movements they start, and direct targeting of the leadership to discredit them or worse is simply a part of their mission statement.
Strange/funny how we need a document to prove what is apparent on its face.
We get few documents from the CIA, therefore they're doing nothing?
File this one under a big fucking "No Shit"
I'll take "Dual Citizenship" for $400 Alex.
the united states is a colony of israel. ariel sharon acknowledged that point when rabin worried about american reaction to israeli atrocities and murders. israel should be bombed back into the stone age. they are vile, murderous, genocidal assholes, victoria "fuck the eu" nuland being a recent prime example.
but the other point is that israel and the cia conspired to bring about 9/11, in part because the terrorist state wanted the usa to do its bidding in the middle east. of course it always does. blow away israel, and you will see a huge reduction in terrorism and violence. blow away the cia and you will have world peace.
Haha! It's game over....the joos already own the USA. Resistance is futile!
American / Isreali Dual Citizens Running the American Government:
Attorney General – Michael Mukasey
Head of Homeland Security – Michael Chertoff
Chairman Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Richard Perle
Deputy Defense Secretary (Former) – Paul Wolfowitz
Under Secretary of Defense – Douglas Feith
National Security Council Advisor – Elliott Abrams
Vice President Dick Cheney’s Chief of Staff (Former) – “Scooter” Libby
White House Deputy Chief of Staff – Joshua Bolten
Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs – Marc Grossman
Director of Policy Planning at the State Department – Richard Haass
U.S. Trade Representative (Cabinet-level Position) – Robert Zoellick
Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – James Schlesinger
UN Representative (Former) – John Bolton
Under Secretary for Arms Control – David Wurmser
Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Eliot Cohen
Senior Advisor to the President – Steve Goldsmith
Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary – Christopher Gersten
Assistant Secretary of State – Lincoln Bloomfield
Deputy Assistant to the President – Jay Lefkowitz
White House Political Director – Ken Melman
National Security Study Group – Edward Luttwak
Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Kenneth Adelman
Defense Intelligence Agency Analyst (Former) – Lawrence (Larry) Franklin
National Security Council Advisor – Robert Satloff
President Export-Import Bank U.S. – Mel Sembler
Deputy Assistant Secretary, Administration for Children and Families –
Christopher Gersten
Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development for Public
Affairs – Mark Weinberger
White House Speechwriter – David Frum
White House Spokesman (Former) – Ari Fleischer
Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Henry Kissinger
Deputy Secretary of Commerce – Samuel Bodman
Under Secretary of State for Management – Bonnie Cohen
Director of Foreign Service Institute – Ruth Davis?
You are confusing zionists with joos.
My point exactly: CIA = white people sucking jews' asses. Stand for once stupid CIA.
I have to clarify. Stand up to jews but don't kill the messenger. Me specifically. LOL.
Janet Yellen has such an UGLY ass!
Do I REALLY have to suck it?
I mean, Bernake and Greenspan were bad enough, but, FUCK...
"may be"?
Christian conservatives are a large part of the blame for this.
From the pulpit to politics, it's about how much sovereignty America can relinquish to Israel to them.
Groveling before Israel is a right of passage for Christians.
Christianity is all about destroying American sovereignty to cede power to Israel.
To cede power to Israel where their king will rule the earth.
No constitution or self-determination. They believe in a global monarchy. Where their king will rule the earth from Israel after he destroys new babylon (America).
Christianity is all about destroying American sovereignty to cede power to Israel.
To cede power to Israel where their king will rule the earth.
Really???
If you had bothered to read the book of Revelation then you would understand that it is the antichrist whom will establish his kingdom in Jerusalem from the rebuilt temple on the temple mount in Jerusalem. Christians are diametrically opposed to the antichrist.
The first problem is that you do not understand the Christian mindset because YOU DO NOT READ what they have read..
This leads to the second, and most troubling, problem in that you follow through by writing with the expulsions from your anus. Yes you are talking out of your ass.
Actually it is quite humorous that there are at least twenty other people whom are as ignorant as yourself on this forum.
Freedom from bondage (REDEMPTION) and salvation is the ENTIRE THEME of the New Testament. That is true salvation. What is REDEEMED??? Who paid the price?
There are no Political Solutions. There will not ever be a Political Solution. If you place your faith in man and his systems which are prone to corruption then you will be sadly disappointed. There will be no utopia here in this World. So...Go ahead and knock yourself out if that is your inclination.
(BTW...Good work George Washington...as usual. Thanks)
Read?
What they do is what matters.
What they do is suck cock for Israel, in the past burn "witches" and in the past before that wipe out as many indigenous people as possible where they go.
Parasites.