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Debt Ceiling Negotiators Propose a "Super Congress" To Do the Dirty Work and Avoid the Wrath of Voters
Huffington Post reports:
Debt ceiling negotiators think they've hit on a solution to address the debt ceiling impasse and the public's unwillingness to let go of benefits such as Medicare and Social Security that have been earned over a lifetime of work: Create a new Congress.
This "Super Congress," composed of members of both chambers and both parties, isn't mentioned anywhere in the Constitution, but would be granted extraordinary new powers.
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Legislation approved by the Super Congress ... would then be fast-tracked through both chambers, where it couldn't be amended by simple, regular lawmakers, who'd have the ability only to cast an up or down vote. With the weight of both leaderships behind it, a product originated by the Super Congress would have a strong chance of moving through the little Congress and quickly becoming law. A Super Congress would be less accountable than the system that exists today, and would find it easier to strip the public of popular benefits.
Michael Rivero comments:
This article is correct. The Constitution does not provide for such a sham. This group of 12 will do the dirty work so that the rest of Congress can evade the wrath of the voters in 2012. No doubt the 6 Senators will not be up for re-election in 2012 while the 6 house members will either be impossible to defeat or predicted to lose anyway no matter what they do.
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Yeah, a Fiat car! (pun overintended)
Just another ploy to pilfer our pockets. Whats really sad is they will promise the moon so the people will not rise up and do anything. I hate to agree with politicians on how they view most Americans. They think most Americans have a short term memory loss. Give them their remote controls and SNAP and all is well.
They will continue to rape the people and most of them will love them for it. WoW and we think the EU is in trouble! Most likely they will be politicians that intend to retire or cannot be re-elected. Seeing as they are again breaking the Constitutional rules, they may even bring in former president's and retired Congressional members while they are at it. I can see the headlines now.
Carter and Clinton Save the USA!
So....
In America you've got elections... for guys and dolls that don't do shit... besides filling their pockets....
and...
other who are not elected run the shit... because... if the real congress would need to do stuff... that's bad for the people... it would damage their popularity....
and now they have somebody... TO USE AS A SCAPEGOAT AND BLAME STUFF ON?!!
GENIUS!!
If only Marx and Lenin where still alive...
WHO CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA?!! CHINA?!! RUSSIA?!!! LIBYA?!!
WHY CAN'T I HAVE A SLAVE WHO DOES MY WORK, WHILE I GET PAID FOR IT!
The last time America had a system like that... it took a guy with a beard and a large nose... and a civil war to fix it...
when a gov. is overthrown and a new gov. is formed, the old debts go away. This is international law, is it not?????????
I think it is time for succession.
No I think not. After WW1 Germany was forced to print like crazy to repay their debt which caused the Hyper inflationary episode there, which led to the rise of Hitler.
Our debtors will want their money and will fight us for it. Maybe not here, but maybe here.
The best solution would be the launch of a new US currency for use by US citizens to conduct their in country trade. Back it with Gold, silver, oil, land, natural gas...etc.
Then gather up all the old currency and put it on a ship bound for China. - "Here is all that money we borrowed from you. Thanks a ton for the lead painted toys and toxic sheet rock."
I am The Chief
Super Congress. That must be the Congress elected by Super Voter$.
How about the names, political affiliations, recent political contributions and /or recent bank deposits for these so called "Debt Ceiling Negotiators".
There is no rule of law. None. Just a bunch of corrupt politicians living in fantasy land, thinking their legislation has any weight or meaning.
I have long thought the (D) or (R) after a politician's name is a useless distraction. A more informative set of initials to see when they're interviewed or quoted would represent their top three donor(s). (O) Oil, (F) Financial, (P) Pharma, (D) Defense, U (Unions), (A) Attorneys, (I) Insurance, etc.
Doubt any of them would rate a (C) Citizens.
Gary Snyder once wrote a thoughtful essay suggesting that other species get Congressional representation. Sequoias, wolverines, etc.
Maybe we just break it into political-economic interests, including kids, the unemployed, soccer moms, and so on, and then let them have at it. Yes, cranky white guys who hate paying for things get a rep too :*)
But public interests get two votes for every corporate interests' one. There, fixed.
I remember that essay, Jim. I also recall the poem about all the important little men running around DC while bird soars overhead: the last line of the poem: "The world does what it wants."
Finger twitch post.
So now congress wants to incororporate and consolidate, just like big business. We know the supreme court already supports it.
If you can't beat them join them.
Throw the bums out for treason!
"Super CONgress", yet another stealth attack on the US Constitution.
The stealth is getting more shoddy these days as they learn the public will swallow evey load given.
A Debt Ceiling Star Chamber! What a super idea!
Just when you think these fucknuts can't get any more evil... sigh.
Actually...the sar chamber is a great idea... But like everything becomes corrupted.
Don't get ORI started on that; he is all about 33rd parallel and super nova implosion!
Yes, I've heard about this Debt Star hitting the Earth in September causing mass extintcion. The ancient Mayans predicted it. The buzz all over the internet.
Super congress is needed so the rest can take a vacation from Aug 2nd. Too many bored congressmen out there.
Taxation without representation.
And GE writing tax law through their lobbyists is representation without taxation.
If most of the pols that are there now were doing what a representative should be doing, there would be absolutely no need for another layer of elitist political bull and pumpkin show ringmasters in Washington. How blatant are they trying to make their lust for power seem? Don't need to get elected? Oh, hang on a minute, those folks that are there already paid there way in. Nevermind.
Well, Norway was their Reichstag fire. This is their Enabling Act.
I'm bugging out to Tuvalu.
The Emperor has dissolved the council permanently...time to call OB1
If you can get that bottle out of his hands
Double post - not sure if I was twitchy or the new software...
simpson-bowles. the debt commissions of the past. it seems to be theater. i doubt this idea would fly. the alternative media would crush the idea.
Time to throw the current useless bunch out of office. But who do you replace them with ?
Guys who follow the teachings of Ron Paul and once Ron Paul is elected president in 2012 he can unincorporate the corporate DC government that was established in 1870 thanks to the Organic District of Columbia Act.
After a few years, the 'Super Congress' could appoint a 'Supreme Leader' who's will could not be challenged at any level of government. In order to allow the Supreme Leader to push through unpopular but necessary legislation without having to make political compromises that could 'Damage its effectiveness', he would be given the position for life.
The transformation will then be complete.
And still the population will fail to notice what has happened, and will remain glued to their reality TV.
Sieg heil. The Republic is dead, long live the Republlica..
Follow the example of the USSR, the other recent evil empire.
Just cease to exist and vanish into the pages of history.
The experiment in central banks is an absolute, complete, utter failure.
The experiment in central government is an absolute, complete, utter failure.
Stop trying to make tyranny work. It doesn't. It just causes pain, agony, injustice, destruction and economic collapse.
The Hunt for the US Gorbatchev begins! Look for the raspberry stain on the forehead! We urgently need the man that pulls the plug on the FED and on WS. That squeezes the meat out of the Squid like a bloated, ballooned, giant penis deflated into total insipid, wheezing, whining collapse. Oh what a day that would my friends. Then you and I and all and sundry would shout... the beast is dead!
MY russian mate (and therefore many russians...;) )considers gorbatchev a traitor who was paid off by the west and nobel academy etc to bend over and let russia go down in smoke.
think about it...
what is there to think about? He chose the better of two horrible options. The trick was not to get to that point. But that started with Lenin/Stalin before Gorby was born!
So now for this second evil empire...which has been at it since...1949...
From the point of view of the parasitical class it is working just fine. They want to destroy everything and everyone.
If this is indeed true, the purpose behind the theatrics becomes increasingly clear. This would be a huge step in our fascist evolution. Wait until the complicit media glorifies these " heroes" for putting the country ahead of themselves our their party.
And it's too late, baby, now it's too late
Though we really did try to make it
Something inside has died
And I can't hide and I just can't fake it
There'll be good times again for me and you
But we just can't stay together, don't you feel it, too
Still I'm glad for what we had and how I once loved you ...
as others have already pointed out, the debt combined
with the future obligations, SS and medicare,
are already too large for the people to be able to pay.
Larger than GDP.
If the budget is really balanced now, the resulting job losses will destroy the whole economy.
If its not, the money printing will.
endgame.
Regime change.
In South America they have a name for this: Junta
In Libya they call it "killing squads and rape brigades"
In the Land of The Free, they call it "Super Congress"... WHAT'S THEIR LOGO GOING TO LOOK LIKE? Let Marvell design it!
if that isnt a reason for an overthrow of governent ,than nothing is
A typical Harry Reid proposal.
Don't be a tool.
Do not underestimate the politicians desire for power. They will destroy the country if needed.
So they want a House of Lords upon a Congress?
Trias Politica? This all is starting to become very weird.
Also the honorable members of Congress are about to become politically obsolete. Which always happens to democratic representatives, after political power has been handed to olichargs. They've served their purpose.
The political system itself is obsolete. It has passed its useful life and no longer gives answers to the problems. It functioned while enjoying the ride of growth, during which time the act of governing didn't actually required any special knowledge or thinking. If one looks at history, it has always misbehaved in the absence of a favourable environment. It has been designed to 'go along', not to solve problems as they may occur, ie can-kicking.
A Super Congress would be less accountable than the system that exists today.........
How low can they go? Can they get any less representative than they are now?
A Super Congress would be less accountable than the system that exists today.........
How low can they go? Can they get any less representative than they are now?
Maybe they could go to secret votes?