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Head Of Iran's Revolutionary Guards: "A War With Israel Will Occur"
Even as the popular ADHD affliction is preoccupied with who paid what taxes, and whether this poll shows that guy on top or this one, until tomorrow when they flip providing even more meaningless chitchat opportunities, everyone appears to have once again lost sight of the big picture, which is that two US ships continue full steam ahead toward Iran, namely the CVN-74 Stennis aircraft carrier which has crossed the Pacific ocean and is now a week away from its target, and the LHA 5 Peleliu big deck amphibious warfare ship, where they will join two other aircraft carriers and the LHD 7 Iwo Jima as summarized by the graphic below. Why is US naval presence in the Gulf soaring to a concentration not seen since the last Gulf war? The head of the Iran revolutionary guard may have an idea. From Reuters: Israel will eventually go beyond threats and will attack Iran, the commander of Iran's Revolutionary Guards was quoted as saying on Saturday.
As speculation mounts that Israel could launch air strikes on Iran before U.S. elections in November, Mohammad Ali Jafari told a news conference that the Jewish state would be destroyed if it took such a step. "Their threats only prove that their enmity with Islam and the revolution is serious, and eventually this enmity will lead to physical conflict," Jafari said when asked about Israeli threats to strike Iran's nuclear facilities, the Iranian Students' News Agency (ISNA) reported.
"We are making all efforts to increase our defensive capabilities so that if there is an attack ... we could defend ourselves and other countries that need our help with high defensive capabilities."
And just to be clear:
"A war will occur, but it's not clear where or when it will be," Jafari was quoted as saying on Saturday. "Israel seeks war with us, but it's not clear when the war will occur."
"Right now they see war as the only method of confrontation," he said.
And when a war does break out, the only question is what China, Russia and India will do. Iran's stance is clear: "If they (Israel) start something, they will be destroyed and it will be the end of the story for them," Jafari said, according to ISNA.
One thing is guarranteed: in one-two weeks US naval presence in the 5th Fleet will be unprecedented, consisting of at least 3 US aircraft carriers, and 2 amphibious warfare groups, excluding any other naval support the rest of the developed world will throw in.
In other words, if for some reason the US needs a big diversion in the days just before the election, it is sure to get it.
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Yeah right. Join BlackWater, Monedas.
I don't know if you're aware of Barry Chamish? He's an orthodox Jewish reporter who continually exposed the distinct separation between the Zionists (Ashkenazi Frankists and Sabbateans with close links to the Vatican, best described as Khazarians) and the orthodox Jews.
Here he is interviewed by Jeff Rense back in 2007 and explains the political situation in Israel at that time. He clearly explains the links between Likud (Netanyahoo and Peres) and the Vatican, AIPAC and other players. I don't know if he's still alive, but his website seems to have gone quiet.
http://www.thebarrychamishwebsite.com/shows/rense091307.mp3
There are many other interviews with Chamish here: http://barrychamish.com/links.htm
It was Barry Chamish who first put me on the scent of the Khazarians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Chamish
Rense? That explains a lot.
That's a new low, even for you ... going down from "shoot the messenger" to the belly-crawling basement of "shoot the interviewer of the messenger"! LOL!
Anyway, the link wasn't for lowlife bigotted automatons like you, "Boil the Rich", it was for inquiring minds looking to understand different perspectives and to form their own opinions.
Perhaps you could learn something about research from this: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-09-22/head-irans-revolutionary-guards-war-israel-will-occur#comment-2821467
Monedas comedy cryptodcorpratistwarmongershill troll. Hopefully the disgust is more educated than you or that. I hope the growing disgust is with the violence writ in any spiritual (or policy) text that justifies antagonism of others outside the local ethnic group of [needy]believers. Maybe you could ask after the New World's indigenous populations how Xstain spirituality worked out for them. Having worked with and known a few, I think there is a large cross section of people who appear to identify themselves as Muslims who just want to work a daily job and get along. But it seems the Moneydass would like to antagonize them without distinction in the service of a subjective contemporary "religious" (umm; regularly observed and repeated) bias.
Monedas... You should evolve. Still measuring skulls?
A measely fifteen million jews in the world, running the whole place, including 1.5B Muslims.
Now that's democracy, which Plato placed 1/2 step above dictatoship.
Didn't see this thought elsewhere in the thread of what I scanned. But my suspicion is that the amped up US presence is there to deter an Israeli action against Iran. The US/UK foces would act to shoot down Israeli planes if they lanch in attack. Why? I think this begs the question: Are we ready for a III'rd whirled war, just now? And such an outcome would serve a propaganda campaign to advocate that the US finally puts Israel in its place, irrespective any continuing reality behind closed consulates and board room doors.
You are smoking raw Hopium ! Put Israel in "it's" place ? Isn't that what Zionism is all about ?
Way outside the box.
If the naval forces were to discourage the Israeli's they would be in the Med,not
the Indian ocean.
If it walks like a duck........
I have no doubt Obummer will go before the election if his internal polling looks
dicey.That asshat will do ANYTHING to remain in power.
Quick, or slow.
Bend over and kiss it goodbye either way.
You mean, behind the scenes, we'd shoot down planes from a nation with which we have an "unbreakable bond?"
I sure hope so!
Finally, pay back for the USS Liberty!
We never get to see video when its a NATO mercinary war. I hope we get to see video this time.
Are Muslims obsessing over Israel ? It's their defining characteristic ! It's really very flattering for us superior types .... when our enemies obsess over us !
You stole their homes and murdered a bunch. obviously some still grieve.
You? Who you? Not me you. The land that the Palestinians want the Israelis off of which they claim to be "home" was the home of the Jews before it was Palestine, it was called The Kingdom of Judah, or Judea. Who stole what from whom?
"In 135, Hadrian’s army defeated the Jewish armies and Jewish independence was lost. Jerusalem was turned into a pagan city called Aelia Capitolina and the Jews were forbidden to live there, and Hadrian changed the country’s name from Judea to Syria Palestina."
Even then there were three distinct groups of Diasporic Jews that had been exiled centuries earlier.
They had a right to their homeland, I don't care what ANYBODY here says about that. All they have been trying to do for two thousand years what we all would do if it were us that had been exiled and forced from our land, simply to go home. The holocaust was just the last straw when it came to being denied your homeland. If there were squatters on the land tough goddamned shit. It would be nice if the squatters could stick around and get along with the original owners but they could not and will not, so they get segregated and walled off like a punk brat that needs a time out.
If you think the Jews should just die you are in plain fact as bad as any Nazi. If you deny the holocaust you are a Nazi. Don't deny it, own it proudly. At the very least if you think there should be another "solution" to the Jewish "problem" speak up and say what it is, buy Baja perhaps? Take their land away again and force them to live next to you in Europe or America? What? Because all the Jew haters on this site, and I recognize there are a lot of you, you just hate, you never solve or suggest other options. If you hate without posting any alternatives and you have swallowed the Nazi screed against Jews hook line and sinker than guess what that makes you? And you will pay for it one day.
You are so misinformed. 99% of Israelis are Polacks, not even of Semitic decent. Israeli Zionist are thieves and murderers.
I call you, rightfully so, Khazars!!!!
http://198.62.75.1/www2/koestler/
Read up if you dare to know the truth!!!!!!
Israel will fail.
Go back and claim your REAL homeland i.e. Warsaw, Poland.
btr -regarding the holocaust .... you're homey moldy-ass keeps claiming that might makes right. Sounds like he's justifying the event. Maybe you should take it up with him/her or at least get your story straight.
Here's an idea zio-boy, give it back to the Cainanites, and expel the zio's back across the Jordan 'river' for a bit, then back into Sinai, where they can eat mana from heaven and feast on quail, and follow a pyre of fire by night, and a pillar of smoke by day. Should be great prime-time fun watching the deadbeats consternation as none of it comes to pass.
But if we see all that happen, then we'll have to take it as confirmation that you kikes do in fact have a God-given promise and valid claim on the Land of Cainan, as a tribal inheritance.
But if that doesn't come to pass, then it's 'gypo AK-47s up the arsehole time.
Fair enough?
Sieig heil Assholes. Call names, it is what you are good at, in fact the only thing you are good at.
Guess what you fucktard Nazi racist buttholes, I am Irish Catholic and 54, and I don't like boot licking shit like you dirtying up my nation, you will harm a hair on one Jews head but you will have to go through me first and I am not afraid of your retarded asses.
Did the pope teach you to talk like that?
"oh, Jesse, Jesse, Jesse ... you've not got a sense of humour."
Not a hair on the head of a zio-invader may be harmed, but toast as many moozlems as you want, ... in the name of what's right?
Right?
But hey, no need to over-react, it was just an objective empirical test proposal for the theory of the existence of a God-given real estate promise, that justifies invasion and 65 years of violent repression and mass-murder, is all.
... it was just an objective empirical test proposal ...
And if God flunks the test you give him, that means he doesn't exist?
The Old Testament is full of violent repression and mass murder, all done because God commanded it. If God is God, he can do whatever he wants, for whatever reason. You can shake your fist at him for not being fair according to your standards. But God is only interested in you conforming to his standards. If you don't like that, you don't have to participate. But you also won't get to participate in the goodies at the end either. That's the story. Your choice. But if the God of the Bible exists, he is not going to jump through hoops that you assemble, just because you demand it of him.
Visit the library and read the Oxford dictionary of the English language. It's about 20 volumes, small print, bring glasses if necessary.
The word "jew" first appeared in history in 1775 AD in a play by Sheriden: "...she hath the skin of a mummy and the beard of a 'jew'...".
Now how the hell can someone called a "jew" have existed prior to 1775 AD when the word did not exist at that time? Is this really so hard to understand and comprehend?
Read The Thirteenth Tribe by Judaic Anthropology PhD. who proved unequivocally that you are a "DNA Denier" if you deny that Jewish DNA came from central Eastern Europe, the nation called Khazaria.
... how the hell can someone called a "jew" have existed prior to 1775 AD when the word did not exist at that time?
Dear Joseph:
Which comes first - the person, place, or thing, or the word(s) used to describe them? A rose by any other name is still a rose. A Jew by any other name is still the DNA line to which the word "Jew" was attached. And that DNA-line did exist before 1775 - regardless of what it was called.
From the vantage point of today, we refer to those who were carried off to captivity in Babylon Jews - even if that word did not exist then. It is a linguistic short-cut, and people use those kinds of shortcuts all the time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonian_captivity
You people refuse to read your own research.
http://198.62.75.1/www2/koestler/
READ THE LINK POLACK! THAT'S ALL YOU ARE! A BUNCH OF POLACKS. MURDERING, THEIVING POLACKS!
The truth won't set you free but, at least you will understand when you fail.
The discussion was about the term "Jew". The term "Jew" is applied to more groups than just the Ashkenazis. For a listing, see about half-way through this link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Israel
Except you lie.
The people today called 'jews' are not the 1st C AD persons of the middle east, but rather, per the modern Judaic PhD anthropologist author of The Thirteenth Tribe, came from the central eastern nation of Khazaria.
Now the DNA proves this unequivocally, so please stop lying about it.
I long for the day (not too many years off) when the cost is about $20 to have one's DNA sampled and its geographic origin determined. Then the next time I meet some lying 'jew' who says he's the DNA offspring of Abraham (I've met two so far) it costs only $20 to prove them the lying liars they are.
I guess at that point the jews pay some professors to state that Abraham emigrated from Europe down to Palestine.
Of your spiritual ancestors Jesus said, "Your father is the devil."
Your ancestors sawed Isaiah in half next to the temple.
Curious, dear Jew: What were the two dates you visited the temple last year, exactly as the Torah (the real Torah, not your sewer rubbish Talmud) requires you to do, under penalty of death?
Oh, I see, you did not visit the temple because you have no temple.
Now everyone, go to Dueteronomy 28 and check the fate waiting for this "jew" Monedas.
Funny thing Monedas, per Oxford, indeed, the word "j-e-w" did not even exist prior to 1775 AD. So much for you being the people of the Bible.
Without the constant aid, technology, and weaponry that comes from you (the American sucker), Israel would be finished. The Arabs or Persians would wipe the floor with them.
"Ifs" are for children !
If Israel attacks Iran, Israel deserves whatever they get. Their current leader must be certifiable.
A pre-emptive strike against a sworn assailant .... is not really an "attack" .... if we had hit those Japanese carriers one day before Pearl Harbor .... you would call that an attack ! Damed if we pre-empt .... accused of inviting the attack if we do nothing ! The Muslim world is so blatantly agressive to Israel .... ANYTHING Israel does at this stage of the game is defensive by definition !
Monedas comedy thisismystatusquocareer troll strikes again! and again, ..... and again, ..... and again, ..... and again, ..... and again, .....
First Streich ? I think I'm defending .... again and again and again ? If anything is monotonous .... it's Islamic hate and self loathing ! The Islamic artists have produced some incredibly beautiful art .... where are those Muslims .... the silent ones ?
Time to crank up the oven production!!!!
I'm sure Seimens still has the plans.
Immediately after the war, Russia built the ovens per directive of the USA and its war allies, enabling the holocaust ruse, which justified the invention of the "JEWISH" religious nation of Israel.
USSR murdered (many killers were Jewish Bolsheviks like our dear friend Monedas and Fox News' Bill Crystal's jewish Russian father) about 20+ million. No new words invented in the language to honor those dead, are there? No government financed pagan sacralistic shrines, etc. No songs, no nothing.
Judaism is...
Monedas, you do great justice to your "religion!"
The Constitution outlaws the institution of government. How then, is it legal and/or appropriate to invent, finance, and enable a "Jewish" nation/state/government based on the racist, biggoted, religion of hate called "Judaism?"
...but it's not directed against the Jews therefore I don't have a problem with that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Turkey
ozzi - If you want people to vote your post up or down, don't lead with italics. It's a bug.
Here's your +1.
Are you insane? Do you go around clobbering people in the face, and when the cops arrive, you say "he was gonna hit me"? Is that what you do? You are psycho!
As a side question, tell us the record Iran has of attacking other countries.
http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2012/08/14/are-the-sanctions-worth-it-...
As a side question, tell us the record Iran has of attacking other countries.
Show those statistics. And then compare those statistics against the record Iran has of helping others attack Israel.
It's ingenious, the way attention has been diverted to this false question of who Iran has ever attacked. That is NOT the issue. The issue is does Iran help others attack Israel?
The fact is, Iran has a long history of helping others attack Israel. It is against this behavior that Israel must build a defense. If Iran develops a nuclear weapon, would they attack Israel with it? Wrong question. If Iran develops a nuclear weapon, might they pass it along to someone who would attack Israel with it? That is the question that must be defended against. And the only failsafe defense is to make certain that Iran does not build a nuclear weapon.
The above is merely a call to logic. I'm not arguing sides here. I've long believed that, if Iran wanted/needed nuclear weapons, they would just buy them. I'm guessing they have already done that.
Maybe so, maybe not so much. By your logic, if you work at a hardware store and sell someone a hammer, YOU are responsible for everything your customer does with that hammer --- whether you knew your customer intentions or not.
As a matter of fact, we often don't know what people will do with stuff we sell them, and that applies to Iranians as much as anyone else. But perhaps you're correct that some of what they provide they do so with the expectation that bad acts will be done with it.
If so, ask yourself this. How much worse is the USSA at this practice than Iran?
Yup. Thought so.
I don't endorse anyone pre-emptively harming anyone.
My logic pertains to why Israel feels the need to defend itself, and what they must defend themselves against (Iran assisting others in attacking Israel). Don't see how that relates to me selling someone a hammer. I agree with your point. I just don't see how it relates.
go blow your horn at monedas; pity his mother didn't insist more that piglet be used like the mice in the recent OMG study on monsanto corn and roundup : very edifying.
1) FDR, as Assistant Secretary of the Navy, arranged a loan of $20,000,000 in 1920's to build a modern, Japanese, Navy to contain the the Bolesheviks.
2) FDR colluded with Rockerfeller to embargo oil to Japan to provoke Japan.
3) FDR knew Japan was going to attack and when. He moved his carriers out of port for the attack.
4) Japan used the Navy financed by the USA to attck the USA.
It was the Jews who goaded the US into WWII because they weren't getting usury from Japan and they needed, by their DNA, have to collect interest payments from all segments of the human race.
If Israel attacks Iran the world will turn against Israel.
Israelis are gangsters. Death to the state of Israel. End zionism.
general patraeus, when he was head of the joint chiefs of staff testified before congress a coupla years ago on usa security issues. he said that support for israel was the biggest security risk facing the usa. he had to modify his testimony publicly under political pressure. he is now head of the cia. general dempsey, the current head of the joint chiefs of staff, publicly stated the usa military wanted no part of an israeli attack on iran. oabama has publicly stated he wants a diplomatic solution to the question of iran's unconfirmed(by anyone but israel) nuclear weapons program essentially telling israel to cool it's jets capped with a public snub of nutandyahoo. nutandyahoo with the help of cohorts such as adelson have gone all in on the romney campaign. they realize that if obama is reelected a strike on iran is out of the question. nutandyahoo has his own election on the line on 10/31. he is likely to lose. all of this says he is desperate for action against iran. whatever action he decides upon must be done before 10/31. the gambit is that obama will be forced to choose sides during the campaign and he will choose to fight for israel for purely political reasons fearing the loss of the margin of votes for victory. a false flag seems obvious but israel may just go for it expecting iranian retaliation in the persian gulf to bring the usa directly into war.....the usa mission in the gulf is to keep the oil flowing though the gulf and the straits of hormuz. given the assesments of the usa generals the strategy may be to deter iran from closing the gulf and/or preventing israel fromclosing the gulf with an attack on iran. start popping your popcorn and cooling your beer. they should be ready by the time this unfolds. i would personally love to see the usa navy taking out israeli jet fighters and bombers and throw in an official apology that the planes were mistaken for iranian air force.
World peace.
besnook: Petraeus was never the Chairman, the rest of your piece seems to be of equal quality. - Ned
centcom. are you happy see any typos, grammatical errors? you seem so helpful and insightful.
It's just that if you don't know who the Chairman is/was, and you are making claims about political rework and claims about what will happen, well, it is kinda' suspect.
Don't cha' know?
- Ned
twas nothing more than thinking ahead of what i was writing. have any points to make about what i posited.
What we have here, is a failure to communicate.
If you can't get even the basics right, then the whole rest of your screed is full of shit. Such as: what is the iranian advantage for an attack on the State of Israel, vs. continued pressure on same. What is the result of the counter move that takes out the one each gasoline refinery in iran?
nor thinking involved here.
Actually, one of my old bosses used to say (in response to such boneheaded thoughts:) "Think Harder"
But I doubt that you have the capacity.
Tried to let you down gently, but you've evidenced your stupidity to all and sundry.
- Ned
And we can say its just like the USS liberty, just a mistake
I am not another coward cowering in the mob .... I relish another Jewish victory .... can't wait to gloat about it .... stay tuned !
Monedas comedy selfsatire courageousagainstallexcepttheUSgovernment troll wants somebody else to die for his fantacies. So he can glowt at a terminal.
I believe that everyone should keep at least 90% of their income .... all government taxes combined should never exceed 10% and through efficiencies in the marketplace applied to government .... we should drive the government take down, mercilessly, towards 0% .... that is not a popularly held opinion in any country !
The original Tea Party in Boston was incited by a lot less than 10% .gov taxation rate. Their slogan was/became "no taxation without representation."
I've heard recently the phrase "no representation without taxation." That kinda' tickles my fancy.
- Ned
Hiow is the gloating coming over the last Israeli victory over Hezbollah in the Israel-Hezbollah war of 2006? Ok... I will take bets on how far Israel is able to advance ground forces north of its borders. The over/under line is 1 kilometer. I guess I will put you down for the over.
But you forget, they had a great 'military' victory via bombing virtually unarmed Gazan civilians in Jan 2009.
Re Lebanon 2006 v2.0, the Israeli's know that what ever they do in Lebanon their primary consideration and requirement will be to have an unobstructed manoeuvre and retreat pathway, so that they can get out again, even quicker than they went in. So Hezbollah will have pre-sewn anti-armour mines and IEDs in all the right places, and will have an overwhelming number of expendable cheap RPGs to waste against the Trophy system, then follow up with Kornets for the kill-shots. Any para's they send in ahead will not be getting out by choppers or armoured support though, as mobile MANPADs will eat them in that terrain. That would again reduce the IDF to using 2000lb iron bombs on Beiriut suburbs and going after cheap rocket launchers with expensive F-15i, LGBs and guided missiles.
If it all happens again, Hezbollah will hit back much more meaningfully than in 2006. For one thing, there's no way it's economic or tactically viable for Israel to shoot-down unguided rocket artillery with short range Irondome point-defense SAMs. That's a system that will be quickly overwelmed and out of ammunition. Plus I think the Israelis are going to be surprised by the sophisticated tactical electronic employments used for any serious guided-missile attack, coming from Hezbollah. Hitting an Israeli frigate in 2006 showed Hezbollah were ready to step-up to a much higher level of sophisticated guided-missile attacks, and employment tactics and setups, so I expect they now have a range of recon, targeting and attack systems available in useful numbers, that can really hurt the IDF, inside of Israel itself, and force them to a more defensive posture.
So let's say Hezbollah launches a wave of land-attack cruise missiles, flying at tree-top level, that hits central Tel-Aviv? It would imply that Arrow, THAAD or Patriot PAC3 plus IronDome will have all failed to protect against the very real possibility of what could have been the delivery of a nuclear strike on Israel's biggest cities.
Now, remember that in 2006, Nasrallah said (several times) that he already had the ability to hit Tel Aviv, at will, with the missiles he already possessed?
(a) I don't think he was bluffing
(b) this forced Israel to spend a fortune on the IDF capabilities, like Iron dome and HEL laser research, etc.
(c) which has contributed to protest from ~800,000 people who are very tired of the economic crisis and stagnation in Israel, and the unaffordability and general miserableness in Israel.
Now imagine if Hezbollah actually hit Tel Aviv, at will, today. It would devastate Israeli and IDF morale and confidence, plus do material damage as well. So I have no doubt this is what Hezbollah have prepared, and I expect their missiles will again get through the Israeli air defense network.
Once it becomes clear that Israel can't so easily or affordably stop or defend against such cruise missile strikes, as they want everyone to believe, then they are in deep trouble. Then it's clear Israel is as vulnerable as anyone else, if a mere organised resistance Militia can do that.
Modesty prevented us from gloating over past Israeli victories .... this time we will have victory celebrations in front of US Mosques !
How about that Hezbollah! They sure kicked the shit out of Israel in 2006. 50-60 Armored vehicles disabled or destroyed... now that is some damage. I remember wathing some Israeli chick tossing her hair around, and trying her damndest to look like a runway model in combat fatigues, the morning the war started. I'll never forget seeing her muddy, bloody, and crying later that day. Great sport, eh... How is that for gloating? See, buddy, Hezbollah and Iran have men fighting, not chiquitas. Before you place your bets on Israel, you best keep this in mind. I will also give you a 21 points on any line in which you bet that a woman's football team can beat the New York Giants. Deal? No.... then maybe you will have to wait a long time to gloat.
Israeli Air Force got their ass handed to them by Pakistani Air Force pilots flying Syrian fighters, only partially as then they were ordered to back down otherwise the outcome of the 6 day war would have been quite different.
"Israeli Air Force got their ass handed to them by Pakistani Air Force pilots flying Syrian fighters, only partially as then they were ordered to back down otherwise the outcome of the 6 day war would have been quite different."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War
Israeli aircraft losses - 46
Combined Arab aircraft losses - 452+
Not seeing the "Israeli Air Force getting their ass handed to them" in those numbers, unless for 46 > 452 for extremely large values of 46. To be fair, there is record of 1 of the 46 Israeli aircraft lost being shot down by a Pakistani pilot, however. Obviously, a crushing blow given the outcome.
During this conflict the PAF sent personnel to Egypt, Jordan and Syria to support the Arabs in their battle against the Israelis. PAF pilots managed to shoot down ten Israeli aircraft, including Mirages, Mystères and Vautours, without losses on their own side. The PAF pilots operated with Egyptian, Jordanese and Iraqi combat aircraft.[16]
1973 Yom Kippur WarDuring this war 16 PAF pilots volunteered to leave for the Middle East in order to support Egypt and Syria but by the time they arrived Egypt had already agreed on a cease-fire. Syria remained in a state of war against Israel so the PAF pilots became instructors there and formed the A-flight of 67 Squadron at Dumayr AB. One of the PAF pilots, Flt. Lt. Sattar Alvi flying a Mig-21 shot down an Israeli Air Force Mirage and was honoured by the Syrian government.[16]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_Air_Force
should anyone like to get beyond zionist-flavoured wiki on this particular touchy subject,
What Really Happened in the “Yom Kippur” War?http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/02/22/what-really-happened-in-the-yom-k...
Very interesting read and plausible.
In the end it all comes down to the Knesset's annexation of the Golan Heights and occupation and annexation of Western Jordan territory (the 'West Bank' of the Jordan river)
So this confirms by pen of USSR ambassador, the post I have made here of Dear Henry's subtle and Machiavelic "shuttle diplomacy" which got US firmly in place and allowed the tie-up of USD with Saud Oil as payback for total regional hegemony.
There is ample evidence of this from several historic sources; so this is not new.
Quite coincidently an ex-Algerian diplomat who was close to NAsserite regime ever since Ben Bella's group had seeked refuge there in 1954 onwards, confirmed this to me : that according to the local grapevine in Cairo, it was rumoured that Sadat was not true to Nasser's legacy; even when he planned Yom Kippur war. This from an Algerian, old FLN hand, who knew Cairo in those days!
Dear Henry...deus es machina of Pax Americana ME construct, even as the world caved in on Nixon from Watergate investigation!
The irony of history!
Indeed. Similarly, I have a close friend who, as a young child of Nasser's family, was spirited out of Egypt and given a new identity in order to avoid execution by Sadat. The Khazarians don't like leaving loose ends.
Btw, Kissinger is a Khazarian and a Knight of Malta.
Omnes viae Romam ducunt.
"1967 The Six-Day War
During this conflict the PAF sent personnel to Egypt, Jordan and Syria to support the Arabs in their battle against the Israelis. PAF pilots managed to shoot down ten Israeli aircraft, including Mirages, Mystères and Vautours, without losses on their own side. The PAF pilots operated with Egyptian, Jordanese and Iraqi combat aircraft.[16]"
An interesting story. But only 12 of the 46 Israeli aircraft lost in 1967 were attributed by the Israelis to air to air combat. Most Israeli losses in both 67 and 73 were to radar directed anti-aircraft guns.
The 'source' for the claim of 12 aircraft shot down by PAF pilots in 1967 (an unattributed article in 'Scramble' magazine) seems optimistic.
The following graphic images (you are warned) exemplify exactly what anyone should expect from Judaics like Monedas who's religious book (The Talmud) states:
"Even the best of the gentiles deserve only death."
http://sandrose.com/2006/07/ugly-face-of-israeli-war-crimes.html
http://uprootedpalestinians.blogspot.com/2009/08/support-grows-for-break...
they hate us for our freedoms lithium (er, their lithium)
Thanks for reminding me, Phat Ho .... medication break !
In Brezinski's "Grand Chessboard" he outlines the resources up for grabs in the Asian Balkans (from Kazakhstan down through Afghanistan) so to get there maybe the key is to unlock syria/iran; from uncompliant western consumers to super-sized burger grabbers.
Yom Kippur = very dangerous for an Israeli strike.
October 15, new moon, also very dangerous.
oh yea, yom kippur war....that's on the 25-26 sept. looks like....could be interesting
War in the ME means martial law in the US "to protect us" from terrorist threats, which Iran will undoubtedly be conveniently making. Just in time to 'postpone' the elections. Oh, and by the way, turn in that gold. Every single person who has made clever remarks about losing their gold in a boating accident will definitely be at the top of the list to receive official visitors. And I'm guessing as of a while ago any midnight gardening involving the digging of holes has been carefully recorded by satellites. Plus if you have a safe in your house it has been located by same said satellites - your roof is no obstacle to their viewing capability, and the process of logging locations is fully no doubt automated. I am sure that the exact GPS location of every in-house safe is already on somebody's "go list". So now would be the time to come up with a realistic alternative - a few weeks from now will almost certainly be too late.
yes , only people in the US have boat accidents.
'So now would be the time to come up with a realistic alternative' - like hiding it in your boat in the garage
as if this isn't enough, direct your attention to the left side of the screen where you will find a similar deployment of the US Fleet which is now equally divided between the Mideast and the South China Sea. Zbig's classical encirlclement of China as he blueprinted in the Grand Chessboard is now well underway. Meanwhile, stateside we have just seen the biggest expropriation in economic history as the Fed has set in motion the acquitision of every, yes every mortgage backed security in the US. yes your home is about to be owned not by FHA, Fannie, or Freddie but by the Rtohschilds and Lazare Freres. They will leverage that 40B every month into trillions, invest in derivatives while the banks suck up Treasuries with the biilions they are given. Somebody has to take the place of the house of Saud after they go down and retire to their heavily fortified Spanish villas. http://youtu.be/VIndqrxKGQY
I hope they blow each other off of the face of the Earth so we won't have to worry about this shit no more.
Institutionalized Religion, especially when interwoven in Government, is so fucking stupid.
This is like a bad HollyWeird B rated movie
It’s the last Hail Mary throw to see what shit sticks to the wall bitchez.
Public Image Ltd.- Poptones
War is so simpel:
My peasants kills your peasants,who killed most,is the winner,what has changed since Kain killed Abel,nothing absolutly nothing:
My god is bigger than your god???:
I have more gold than you have,my car is bigger than your car,my wife has bigger tits than your wife,my kidds are more dumb than your kidds,my waters are more White than your waters,or was it Black cant realy not remember,what color An Academi Prince has these days,and the microphone over to: Cia Naional Network, my Frequency is higher than your Frequencytraitor:
And it took humans???How many years to come to this piont4-5 million,thats something to tell mom about=Neoanderthal!!
As of Sept 13th, Stennis is in 7th Fleet Pacific area, apparently "visiting some ports to say hello" whilst on its way to 5th Fleet (as now seen in the image). So, there are now Two carriers bumming around in Pacific and Two carriers in the Gulf. If anything is going to happen, the question in my mind is how long will Stennis be bumming around and "engaging with partner nations before making their way into the Fifth Fleet area"? Will the LHA group make it to the Gulf before Stennis?
If this is a stealthy move to bolster the 7th fleet then why? "Deterrence" if something does goes down in the Gulf? If necessary, how long would it take for Stennis to go full steam ahead to the Gulf.
http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2012/sep/13/stennis-strike-group-enters-7t...
"While in the Seventh Fleet area — Western Pacific and Indian Ocean — the Bremerton-based aircraft carrier and its attendant ships will conduct port visits and engage with partner nations before making their way into the Fifth Fleet area — the Middle East."
Another thing is - apparently there has been a build up in Alaska...
I "doubt" anything will happen in Asia, but this is a poker game to keep people guessing and uncertain. Then again... the unexpected thing would be to open up conflicts in two fronts.
Oops they deployed the F-22s in Alaska to Guam.
477th Fighter Group: http://www.477fg.afrc.af.mil/
http://www.477fg.afrc.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123318481
http://www.alaskadispatch.com/article/alaska-f-22s-deployed-pacific-even...
let's face it - the boys at area 51 are just itchin' to use their new toys in a new theatre of war
The US should only be there to keep it from spreading.
I say let Israel and Iran duke it out. They hate each other and it is going to happen sooner or later.
There is no reason for the US to get involved, just contain it to the two countries and keep everybody else out of it.
Israel strikes, Obama steps in as 'peacemaker' mediator, second term and nobel peace prize in the bag.
For cryin' out loud...to anyone who feels compelled to predict "imminent" warfare between Iran/Israel...
Look at a map! You're on the Internet! Maps are RIGHT THERE!
What is directly IN BETWEEN Iran and Israel? Make note, you'll want to know this later.
Do you remember what global superpower recently spent almost a decade there? Do you remember what they BUILT during that decade?
DIRECT "war" between Iran/Israel is NOT COMING anytime soon. They can continue sniping at each other via proxy, and Israel can continue begging Uncle Sam to start bombing, but there is a MASSIVE OBSTACLE to either side "just deciding" to light up that region.
Actually, in the news there appear to have been pieces about Iran and North Korea secretly using Iraqi airspace to ship stuff to Syria. In terms of Syrian airspace, there have been news pieces of `rebels` shooting down enemy jets (like the one where a supposed Russian general was shot down). This may be a sign airspace in most direct path are comprimised and vulnerable.
I think most likely jump point if something originates from Israel is flying through Syria, Iraq, and then northern Iran.
https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=middle+east+map&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=...
And Russian port Tartus appears to be many hundreds of kilometres away from possible flight path. Not to mention jamming measures that will be in place by any force.
Wrong global superpower, yo. Russia's just a crime family these days.
So is the USA. Run by the Boss GS.
My money is on the Jew-S-A.
(This is the Novus Ordo Seclorum Gay Pride U.S. Joint Military Band of Rosemary's Baby Broadway Queens, and I do mean a ''wide birth'', song, called: ''The Merciless Mahdi Ain't No Yahshua'') [Song to be sung by Mel Brooks]
Well hello Mahdi
Well hello Mahdi
It's nice to see your pathetic Islamic call
All your nutball Iranian Shia ...or is it Suffi?
...I get so confused see
They see Israeli war G
It's all so pathetic and without Mercy
everyone on the planet will end up at this Ball
...so Helllll low Mahdi
Hello Mahdi
Oh Hell is low ain't it Mahdi?
What? You say Yahshua works for you and he stopped being a Jew?
Well Hello Mahdi.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/iran-official-big-war-means-mahdis-coming/
What fool? ...at this point, would cast away the Spirit and the image of Mercy (in the mirror) and think to eat the fruit thereof? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diZm4J_IyPs
looks like my longrange Dec 31st Intrade bets might pay out after all then
Thinking about a world with millions less members of the Satanic Tribe in it makes me smile!
Dup
Which one of the many did you mean? Narrow it down for us.
Israel will get their goddamn asses handed to them if they light up Iran. Iranians aren't going to cower in bunkers or surrender in droves, they'll get up on their hind legs and fight like hell. The Mossad needs to give Ol' BiBi the Itsak Rabin tratment and call off this asinine agenda.
Nope, if Israel's existence is threatened, Iran will cease to exist. Period. Get Real! Israel can not leave Iran even half-standing, if Israel is seriously wounded. Israel will go for the jugular, and Iran will be molten glass.
Right on, Mamon ! I am an observer of humanity .... I can spot false bravado .... the little Iranian Hitler is shaking in his boots !
....me thinks both the Iranian Oil Ministry and Binyamin Nuttinyahoo were both cheering .......
(advice: for a better impact on oil, wait until markets are open next time.)
Here's the most the US and Israel can hope for:
http://www.google.com/imgres?start=163&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=6iX&sa=...
We're goin' to be toasted....
I was told Lucky changed it's wrapper from green to white in 1942 because the green dye was needed for army uniforms ? Anyone got the low down on that ? Green dye can't be that rare earthy ?
Big deal.
Obama will just launch the drones.
Make Obama sound like a player on the world stage .... he's nothing but a clown to work around !
As Jack said;
"Sell your crazy someplace else, we're all stocked up here"
Question of the evening is whether Monedas will hit triple digits negative on one of his/her posts.
Anybody laying odds?
28 posts (so far) from Monedas in this single thread means that he/she/it has moved from occassional comedy to pushing an agenda ... ie. to inciting hate speech on ZH in order to disrupt saner political discussion.
Don't get sucked into it ... just junk the haters (from both sides) and move on.
since there appears to be doubt as to the "he/she" of poster Monedas, it outed itself as "manly" over at Turd's place, when "he" trolled the Christy, sorry Xty, self-appointed thread monitor back in the days when that place had a loyalty oath flavour to the posts, and made the threads unbearable to read. . .Monedas was obviously taken in by Xty's "new" avatar, a pic of herself with a pirate hat on, which she later admitted was taken when her age was half that of now.
but I suspect you both know Monedas is a "man" already, heh.
(great post re: incremental sampling of stories told, leading to increasing awareness over time i-dog - as always!)
What is Russia/China going to do: nothing. India, I have no idea
Russia, does it really want a nuclar armed Iran with Checyna next door, has Russia actually given the S300 (even though Iran already paid for it). China has never made Iran a full in the SCO - part of the reason they claim Iran cant become a full member is because of the sanctions that both Russia and China eventually backed (they did not use there vetoes).
So do you really think Russia or China is going to do anything. No otherwise they would have already taken steps. Yet none of these varaibles has changed, they have remained constant. If the powers that be start beating Iran with a baseball bats the Iran and China will sit on the side sucking there thumb and we can say thank god for small favors.
I see a war w/ two fronts shaping up... look at those assets' locations. You can see what's going to happen. A primer war w/ Iran, our support of Israel, and our lock down of the Middle East oil reserves - that's just the start... we'll be drawing China/Russia(perhaps - I don't really think the Russians will stomach a war and will back out) to a different front using Japan as our springboard. We don't fight wars anywhere near our soil... poor Middle East and Japan, they're going to be killing fields.